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JontheEchidnaI have a crash reported as happening at line 49 of this file: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Transaction.cpp?revision=1208223&view=markup00:51
JontheEchidna:s00:51
JontheEchidnahow can a '{' crash?00:52
JontheEchidnaand even the only line in the function is returning a pointer, and should never crash00:52
JontheEchidnaI don't see why QApt::Backend::errorOccurred would make a QMetaOBject::activate() call to a Muon function :s00:57
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ScottKrbelem: If you make changes related to kuser, please remember that we use userconfig instead and let's figure out what needs to be done to it instead.01:41
ScottKJontheEchidna: Did you get a chance to look into kde4libs symbol changes with 4.5.95?01:43
JontheEchidnaScottK: yup, no ABI breakage01:43
rbelemScottK, do you think that using login.defs is the best way to do that?01:43
ScottKJontheEchidna: So I can just remove all the missing bits?01:44
JontheEchidnaScottK: yes01:44
ScottKrbelem: No idea.  Just wanted to make sure you knew.  I've never looked at the code in any detail, but it is in Python.01:44
ScottKJontheEchidna: Thanks.01:44
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rbelemScottK, i will take a look to see how it works01:48
ScottKrbelem: Thanks.  I know Riddell has done some work on it, so he ought to be able to give advice if you need it.01:48
Riddellit would be really nice to get userconfig upstream01:52
rbelemScottK, no i thank you :)01:53
rbelemRiddell, where do you think is the best place to put it? how userconfig works?01:54
rbelemRiddell, login.defs seems to be a nice place to get some system defaults01:57
Riddellput what?02:07
Riddelli've not coded on userconf either02:07
rbelemRiddell, put the system defaults info, such as min and max uid02:09
rbelemRiddell, i thougth in kuser but ossi said somewhere else would be better02:10
Riddellddd02:27
Riddellrbelem: I don't know I'm afraid, ask yuiry02:28
stalcupDONT FORGETE OT PUT IN YOUR TIME http://www.doodle.com/s6smg85bsvicnsn405:42
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1213289 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (3 files) (log message trimmed)05:43
CIA-39Ensure that we get to do our error handling in ApplicationBackend before05:43
CIA-39MuonMainWindow has a chance to reload things behind our back in the case that05:43
CIA-39[libqapt] jmthomas * 1213291 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Now that the auth check comes after workerStarted has been emitted, we must emit workerFinished() if authorization fails05:44
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1213383 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (7 files in 5 dirs) Automatically reload searches after a rebuild of the search index is triggered06:49
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1213385 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp Fix a bug where having an app installed from a PPA would make it not appear in the "Get Software" tree of sources with apps available.07:05
JontheEchidnayofel: ^ I think that's your bug. (Or at least it's why the Chromium PPA wasn't showing up for me)07:06
JontheEchidnaoff to bed for me07:06
seawolfhi,for bug kpackagekit doesn't start after update to kde 4.6 rc ,what's new? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/69419407:59
ubottuUbuntu bug 694194 in Kubuntu PPA "kpackagekit doesn't start after update to kde 4.6 rc" [Undecided,Triaged]07:59
* phononlogger yawns through the channel08:22
phononloggermicrosoft surface anyone?08:34
ulysseswhat? o.O08:35
phononloggerask the google08:51
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nigelbwhat fail.08:57
nigelbphononlogger.08:57
nigelb:-P08:57
nigelbHe swallowed up apachelogger.  Sigh.08:57
\shhappy new year :)08:58
phononloggerhappy new year to you too \sh :)09:00
droidslayer\o10:29
shadeslayerseawolf: ill look at it today11:03
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shadeslayerRiddell: im taking over kpk bug and setting a milestone for alpha 211:15
shadeslayerhuh11:17
shadeslayeri cant set a milestone for this bug apparently11:17
shadeslayeryofel_: pokey11:18
danttishadeslayer: you just need to package a new version12:01
danttishadeslayer: or I can make a patch..12:02
danttisince 4.6 is backport a new version seems no to be a problem12:02
shadeslayerdantti: the issue is due to KDE 4.6 right>12:21
shadeslayerim packaging the new release12:21
shadeslayermeh .. needs new packagekit12:32
danttishadeslayer: no it doesn't, as kubuntu does not use the new stuff12:33
danttishadeslayer: does the build fails?12:33
shadeslayerdantti: yeah .. needs newer packagekit 12:35
shadeslayer0.6.1112:35
Mamarokplasma-desktop uses permanently +50% CPU (on a dual core), is this to be expected? I'd rather go for a bug in KDE 4.612:36
Mamarok(with new plasma config btw, I had to erase everything to make the second screen working)12:37
shadeslayerMamarok: ive seen that bug on launchpad i think .... against a older plasma release tho12:37
danttishadeslayer: you can just patch the check, top level cmake file12:39
danttiit's important for openSuse and Fedora12:39
shadeslayeroh12:39
shadeslayerso it can work with older packagekit?12:39
shadeslayerwell ... im packaging new packagekit as well :P12:40
shadeslayerso *shrug*12:40
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shadeslayerdantti: 2 of your patches were applied upstream in packagekit right?13:02
shadeslayerthe apt proxy one and apt crash 13:03
shadeslayerNeed to get 100 MB/168 MB of archives. After unpacking 575 MB will be used. << :S13:03
shadeslayerwell ... i can take a bath till the time it compiles etc13:03
shadeslayerbah13:04
shadeslayerdebian has a 0.6.11 package13:04
danttishadeslayer: yes13:06
shadeslayeryeah .. i didnt see it13:06
shadeslayerok13:06
danttiok13:06
danttishadeslayer: iirc if has 0.6.11 package, they want to start syncing in natty iirc13:07
shadeslayerum .. i dont get you13:08
danttishadeslayer: about Debian13:10
shadeslayeryes .. im merging the package from debian13:11
Quintasanurgh13:14
QuintasanDAMN IT13:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: SIP madness?13:15
shadeslayeranyhow ... im leaving to take a bath... cya13:15
QuintasanNo, I lost precious time13:15
QuintasanI could have done SIP when ScottK pong'd me back but I had to prepare for test from physics, and yet, our teacher told us today she is postponing the test at least two weeks13:17
shadeslayerlol ^^13:17
shadeslayerteachers--13:18
shadeslayerreally gone now13:18
timhi, i'm trying to compile a kate plugin, but it seems that i am missing a library: kateinterfaces13:32
timthere is a libkateinterfaces.so.4, but it seems, a symbolic link with the name libkateinterfaces.so is missing13:33
shadeslayercould someone sponsor a upload of new packagekit from here : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental13:52
shadeslayerive just uploaded it13:52
shadeslayerwell ... still uploading13:53
shadeslayerheh13:59
shadeslayeryofel_: apport-collect bugno opens up konqueror here13:59
shadeslayerdont upload that packagekit! :P14:07
yofel_shadeslayer: then you have x-www-browser set to konqueror, blame python-launchpadlib - apport-bug properly uses kfmclient14:10
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yofeltim: I don't think we ship that file, can't remember why though right now14:10
yofelshadeslayer: and you should be able to set milestones for ubuntu bugs...14:10
shadeslayertim: iirc theres a bug in launchpad about that14:10
shadeslayeryofel: yeah .. but the bug was reported against the PPA14:11
shadeslayerso no milestone for that14:11
shadeslayeryofel: kpk crashes on natty too?14:11
yofelit does14:11
shadeslayerok ... ill add a package for that then14:11
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timshadeslayer: just searched launchpad for bugs regarding libkateinterface. no success :/14:16
shadeslayerdang ... i forgot to add [LP: #bug]14:16
shadeslayerwill have to ask sponsor14:16
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shadeslayertim: ok lemme look :)14:21
Riddellgood morning Kubuntu14:24
shadeslayerRiddell: \o14:25
shadeslayerRiddell: got some time to sponsor a upload?14:25
steveireWhich launchpad component do I use to file a nouveau bug?14:26
yofelxserver-xorg-video-nouveau14:26
yofeland use apport14:26
shadeslayerapport++14:27
shadeslayeronly thing is ... its in pyth0rn14:27
shadeslayerphononlogger: oi14:27
Riddellshadeslayer: can do14:28
shadeslayerRiddell: packagekit merge from debian14:29
shadeslayerone sec ..14:29
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/7acpP5Qh << debdiff14:29
shadeslayerbahahaha14:30
shadeslayerthat bug number needs removal14:31
shadeslayerwhy did i even put it there14:31
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/MSXpzjNQ14:31
steveireWhat are the important files to put in a xorg related bug? There's some xorg.0.log or something, but I don't know where.14:34
Riddellpatch unexpectedly ends in middle of line14:34
Riddellpatch: **** malformed patch at line 103:  14:34
Riddellshadeslayer: pastebin mangles the patch as usual14:34
Riddellshadeslayer: use ubuntu-bug (==apport)14:35
Riddellit should attach useful files for the given package14:35
Riddellubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau14:35
shadeslayerwhat what14:35
shadeslayerubuntu-bug? :P14:35
shadeslayeryou mean steveire right?14:35
Riddellum yes14:36
Riddellsteveire: use ubuntu-bug (==apport)14:36
shadeslayerRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/patch14:39
shadeslayereh14:39
shadeslayerwhy does it have that bug number still14:39
shadeslayerwait14:39
shadeslayerfix0red14:40
steveirehttp://dpaste.com/303374/ How do I see those files?14:41
Riddellsteveire: since you don't use gdm, the question is moot14:41
shadeslayersteveire: var/log/gdm14:41
shadeslayerthat too .. :P14:42
yofelthat only makes sense to add if you use gdm14:42
shadeslayerand i thought apport was smart about such stuff14:42
shadeslayerclearly not14:43
yofelit's the hook that's stupid14:43
yofelIIRC there was a bug about that14:43
shadeslayerRiddell: did i mention commenting on lp with rekonq should be fixed in next kdewebkit release?14:44
Riddelldpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address14:44
Riddellshadeslayer: tsk ^^14:44
Riddellshadeslayer: commenting on lp would be most awesome14:44
shadeslayerbah ... forgot that ...14:44
RiddellI can add the maintainer field14:44
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah adawit mailed me that the issue is fixed14:44
Riddellthat would leave flash only showing 1/4 space as the main issue in rekonq which is a qtwebkit bug14:45
shadeslayerRiddell: can you add a new bookmark in keditbookmarks? i cant seem to add a url in the location field14:47
steveireIf I want to try proprietry nvidia drivers shold I get them from a repo or download myself? Are they available through a script in ubuntu repos?14:48
shadeslayersteveire: run jockey-kde in krunner14:48
Riddellshadeslayer: that's very broken14:48
steveireThanks14:48
shadeslayerRiddell: aye 14:48
shadeslayerkde bug 26271314:48
ubottuKDE bug 262713 in general "Cannot Add new bookmark's location" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26271314:49
shadeslayerRiddell: also ... rekonq alpha in 3 weeks14:49
shadeslayerand im working on fixing full screen14:49
Riddellshadeslayer: is there a release schedule for rekonq currently?14:50
shadeslayernope 14:53
shadeslayerRiddell: http://piratepad.net/rekonqmeeting14:53
shadeslayerand our agenda : http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/rekonq/Meeting/Agenda14:54
shadeslayeronly half the stuff got done14:54
shadeslayerthen people had to leave etc :P14:55
Riddellstalcup: this doodle thing says America/Chicago and the first three options are Sunday 16:00 18:00 and 21:30 is that really on US timezone?14:56
Riddellbecause if so apachelogger has picked some very anti-social times for himself14:56
Riddellwhich may be what he does14:56
shadeslayerRiddell: can something be called from python ( using pykde or pyqt ) to set the focus to a particular window? ( for eg rekonq )14:57
Riddellshadeslayer: possibly not, focus stealing is frowned upon14:57
shadeslayerohk ...14:58
Riddellinvestigate http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classNET.html14:58
shadeslayerok ... now i really need to submit those talks14:58
shadeslayerahh15:00
steveireAfter changing to the prop driver my fonts look crappy. Is that normal?15:01
shadeslayersteveire: yeah ... enable hiting15:01
shadeslayer*hinting15:01
shadeslayersteveire: http://pastebin.com/RRRLABvF15:02
* yofel is happy with slight hinting15:02
shadeslayerRiddell: talking about weird timings ..  on Mon the meeting time for me was 5.30 AM :P15:03
shadeslayeryofel: i like my text to be razor sharp :P15:03
shadeslayerseeing how my theme is dark ... it looks ok15:03
yofelhmpf, set it to no antialiasing at all and you should be fine looking at the pixels15:04
shadeslayeryofel: lol :P15:07
shadeslayerRiddell: we can haz new webkit snapshot?15:08
shadeslayerah ... but for v8 we'll need this as well http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/qtscript-v815:09
shadeslayerhmm .. no ... 15:10
shadeslayerit has a dep on v8 ... on github15:10
afiestasrbelem: can you update the reviewboard patch?15:16
afiestasI was going to test it but it doesn't aply15:16
afiestas*apply15:16
afiestasalso, are you sure about removing smb_kcm ?15:17
rbelemafiestas, are you using latest kdenetwork trunk?15:18
rbelemafiestas, we will refactor everything, so i thougth that it would be a nice idea to remove :)15:19
shadeslayerwhee15:20
shadeslayernew KDE PIM15:20
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rbelemafiestas, i commited a patch fixing the code style before send the reviewboard one15:21
ZoraelDo we run /etc/X11/Xsession at all? I'm adding debug statements to mine and they don't seem to process.15:27
shadeslayeri have no such file :P15:28
ZoraelMaverick15:28
Zorael$ dpkg -S /etc/X11/Xsession15:28
Zoraelx11-common: /etc/X11/Xsession15:28
shadeslayerah15:30
shadeslayersmall s15:30
afiestasrbelem: the patch for a reviewboard mus tbe as atomic as possible15:30
afiestasjust change whatever you need to change, no more no less :p15:31
afiestas(but removing smb_kcm doesn't seem required)15:31
afiestasbtw, I've been thinking about afp, have you digg about it?15:31
ScottKQuintasan: How's sip going then?15:31
afiestasthere is a server more or less supported on linux, and a client (afpfs-ng) with a library, but dunno what is the status15:31
rbelemafiestas, that's true, i will upsate the patch15:32
* rbelem looking at afp15:32
shadeslayercould someone take up PIM? im fixing kpk right now ... 15:32
shadeslayerkronos: so taking up PIM?15:41
kronosshadeslayer: will try ... if my net connection doesnt let me down ...15:42
shadeslayerkronos: its about 60MB's15:42
kronosshadeslayer: hmmm.. link to tarball ?15:43
Riddellshadeslayer: yes a new qtwebkit snapshot would be good15:43
Riddellshadeslayer: what are you submitting talks about?15:43
shadeslayerRiddell: well plasma mobile and neon15:43
shadeslayerkronos: they are on ftp.kde.org15:43
rbelemafiestas, afp seems to be nice :)15:43
shadeslayerkronos: under unstable/kdpim/4.5.94.115:43
Riddellshadeslayer: what should I submit talks about?15:44
shadeslayerRiddell: still need to get mobile working on my phone15:44
shadeslayerRiddell: you'r coming? :D15:44
Riddellshadeslayer: to conf.kde.in? I hope so15:44
shadeslayeryayyy15:44
shadeslayerhmm15:45
Riddellbut getting a visa is hassle, I've no idea how long that takes15:45
Riddellnot sure if I should book a filight before I get one15:45
shadeslayerRiddell: uh .. not more than 2 weeks i think15:45
shadeslayeri think its better if you have the return tickets first ... not sure tho15:45
rbelemafiestas, i will check if it is possible share a folder without root power15:45
shadeslayerRiddell: i can ask around ... my dad works at the Airport :P15:46
Riddellwell the website says don't book travel first15:46
shadeslayeroh ... hmm .. dont book it then ...15:47
Riddellpresumably because if they turn you down then you might have wasted money15:47
Riddellbut I hope they won't turn me down, I'm quite a respectable person15:47
shadeslayeriirc you can get refunds etc 15:47
Riddelland if I leave it late then the price might go up15:47
shadeslayerdunno ... might go up ...15:48
rbelemafiestas, did you manage to apply the patch?15:50
afiestasrbelem: going to do it15:53
QuintasanScottK: Not at all, I'm learning to maths test, it WILL be tomorrow unfortunately15:53
QuintasanScottK: about what time tomorrow will you have some time?15:54
ScottKQuintasan: Tomorrow maybe a bit in my morning, but not much.15:54
ScottKWed is better.15:54
afiestasrbelem: still same big patch?15:55
QuintasanScottK: Let me check if there is something I will start learning the day before as usual :/15:55
QuintasanScottK: not really, just English test, about what time are you free?15:56
ScottKQuintasan: I should be available after 1330 UTC.15:57
rbelemafiestas, wifi router was dropping me :(15:57
QuintasanScottK: Sounds good, I think I might disappear suddenly somewhen between the maths and religion15:58
afiestasoks, let me try the big one15:58
ScottKQuintasan: I'll be around up to roughly 2100 UTC or a bit later, so no rush (this is on Wed)15:58
QuintasanCool.15:59
QuintasanI think we'll get this done this Wed15:59
QuintasanWell, I'm off, maths won't do themselves15:59
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55250216:00
afiestasrbelem: File filesharing/advanced/propsdlgplugin/propertiespage.h is not empty after patch, as expected16:00
Quintasanshadeslayer: >Traceback (most recent call last):16:00
Quintasanshadeslayer: to apachelogger with this16:01
Quintasan!16:01
shadeslayerit could be because i downgraded python-dev build dep 16:01
shadeslayerbuilt fine on natty16:01
rbelemafiestas, yup16:02
rbelemops...16:02
rbelemafiestas, maybe that happen when i converted the patch from git to svn16:03
shadeslayer!info python-defaults maverick16:03
ubottuPackage python-defaults does not exist in maverick16:03
shadeslayer:|16:03
shadeslayerQuintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults << maverick16:03
afiestasrbelem: we need a patch to test it :/16:03
afiestasupdate it when you can, no hurry16:04
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/python-defaults16:04
shadeslayerit had 2.6.6-3+squeeze4 as a version in python-dev16:04
rbelemafiestas, oki, but you manage to compile?16:06
afiestasnope, I can't apply it16:06
rbelem:(16:06
rbelemafiestas, i m at a meeting right now, in some minutes i will update and ping you back16:07
rbelemthx afiestas :)16:07
rbelemRiddell, who is yuri?16:10
RiddellYuriy Kozlov16:11
Riddelldid the kde 4 port of userconfig16:11
Riddellyuriy-kozlov@kubuntu.org16:11
Riddellyuriy_work: 16:11
rbelemRiddell, cool :)16:11
rbelemRiddell, thx16:11
* yuriy_work waves at rbelem16:12
rbelemyuriy_work, :)16:13
rbelemyuriy_work, i ll ping you in a while about the userconfig :)16:13
shadeslayerQuintasan: its fixed in the updated version16:28
shadeslayerwhich means ill have to patch kpk to use old packagekit16:29
_Groo_brb16:32
shadeslayerRiddell: can you give kronos ssh access to ktown? he's packaging kde pim16:34
Riddellkronos: yo, where's your ssh key?16:40
Riddellshadeslayer: you can too of course16:40
shadeslayeroh ok ...16:41
shadeslayerRiddell: where do i put the keys? 16:41
shadeslayerthere are like ..4-5 files in there :P16:41
kronosRiddell: launchpad.net/~bhargav16:41
Riddellshadeslayer: .ssh/authorized_keyss16:43
Riddellshadeslayer: .ssh/authorized_keys16:43
shadeslayeroh ok16:43
Riddellgo ahead16:44
shadeslayeryeah one sec16:44
_Groo_hey shadeslayer Riddell 16:44
Riddellhi _Groo_ 16:44
shadeslayerhey :)16:44
_Groo_im doing the kdepim 4.5.94 packages16:44
_Groo_which need akonadi 1.4.9416:44
_Groo_which im building16:45
shadeslayer_Groo_: one sec16:45
_Groo_Riddell: can i send both debians to you? i cant upload via dput cause im at work :P16:45
shadeslayer_Groo_: we have akonadi 1.4.9516:45
shadeslayeryou need to use that16:46
shadeslayerand theres akonadi 1.4.95 in experimental ppa16:46
shadeslayerfor maverick of course16:46
Riddellhang on, are _Groo_ and kronos working on the same thing?16:47
shadeslayerRiddell: kronos hasnt started yet16:47
shadeslayeralso16:47
shadeslayer_Groo_: did you do the .1 release?16:47
shadeslayeror the older release16:47
_Groo_shadeslayer: im with experimental active and akonadi 1.4.95 wasnt updated.. i think its 1.4.90 thats there for maverick16:47
_Groo_shadeslayer: i didnt checked it though16:48
yofelexperimental has 95, I checked16:48
shadeslayeryeah .. i put it there :P16:48
yofelonly for natty though o.O16:48
yofelshadeslayer: ^16:48
shadeslayeroh16:48
_Groo_yofel: ahhh thats why16:48
shadeslayerinteresting ...16:48
yofelshadeslayer: you did that :P16:48
_Groo_yofel: i had to do it locally ...16:48
shadeslayeryofel: i thought i uploaded for maverick :P16:49
shadeslayerill bbiab16:49
_Groo_anyway, im in the process of completing 1.4.95 kdepim16:49
_Groo_im doing it locally but i can send the debian file to anyone who could send this to ninja/experimental16:49
_Groo_unfortunatelly i cant right now :P16:50
yofel_Groo_: are you doing pim 4.5.94.1 ?16:50
_Groo_i can also send akonadi if yofel doesnt have the maverick baackport handy16:50
_Groo_yofel: no, 4.5.94... wheres the .1?16:50
yofel_Groo_: was uploaded a few hours ago16:50
_Groo_yofel: i didnt see it in the mirrors, let me check16:50
_Groo_yofel: :P16:50
_Groo_i cant use ftp, so i need to use a http mirror for ftp.kde.org ¬¬16:51
_Groo_yofel: let me see if the mirror already has it16:51
_Groo_yofel: also one question16:51
shadeslayerits on Ktown16:51
shadeslayernot on ftp16:51
shadeslayerwhich needs sftp16:51
_Groo_yofel: akonadi missing files shows a /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite3.so16:51
shadeslayer_Groo_: see debian/not-installed16:52
_Groo_yofel: do we need this? ah, ok..16:52
shadeslayeriirc no16:52
_Groo_ok, all checked then, akonadi now also has 3 new cmake files that i added to libakonadi-dev16:52
shadeslayerdude16:53
_Groo_-./usr/lib/cmake/Akonadi/AkonadiTargetsWithPrefix.cmake -./usr/lib/cmake/Akonadi/AkonadiTargetsWithPrefix-debian.cmake 16:53
shadeslayer_Groo_: i alread did akonadi16:53
shadeslayeryeah16:53
_Groo_two actually16:53
_Groo_shadeslayer: im confirming :)16:53
shadeslayer_Groo_: its uploaded :P16:53
_Groo_shadeslayer: since im building it locally :P16:53
shadeslayerright16:53
shadeslayerit needs those two files16:53
shadeslayerfedora had them as well16:54
_Groo_shadeslayer: k, i know, i just wanted to check i did the right thing (tm)16:54
yofel_Groo_: it might be a good idea posting that you're doing something here _before_ doing it ;)16:54
_Groo_Riddell: btw did you uploaded my koffice 2.3.0 final?16:55
shadeslayeryofel: iirc he did ... but then i didnt hear from him and i started on it16:55
_Groo_yofel: well i didnt see kdepim and akonadi, so i went ahead16:55
yofelah16:55
_Groo_yofel: its more for personal amusement also :P16:55
yofel:P16:55
_Groo_yofel: if it helps others great :D16:55
shadeslayerand then found complete borkage in the 4.5.94 release16:56
* yofel goes into hiding again16:56
shadeslayerand then saw on mailing list .... that a new version is being released16:56
shadeslayer_Groo_: you better package the new release16:56
_Groo_yeah it was somthing like that16:56
_Groo_i forgot my wife birthday on friday >.< and agroo her, so this weekend was a nono for internet usage :P16:57
_Groo_i really didnt forget, i was just slow to remember :D16:57
_Groo_shadeslayer: can you pass me the url for 4.5.94.1?16:58
_Groo_shadeslayer: it didnt hit the mirrors yet16:58
_Groo_shadeslayer: or go ahead and compile it  Â¬Â¬ and ill wait for the packages16:59
shadeslayer_Groo_: theres no url... its just on ktown for packagers16:59
_Groo_shadeslayer: i dont know what ktown is16:59
_Groo_shadeslayer: im just a poor minion, no real powers :P16:59
shadeslayer_Groo_: its a sekret place where all the tarballs are uploaded before a release is announced 17:00
shadeslayerbasically so that packagers get them before they are released into the open17:00
yofel_Groo_: are you on work or at home?17:00
_Groo_yofel: at work17:00
yofel:S17:00
_Groo_yofel: i cant use anything besides http protocol in this place :P17:01
yofelwell, I can get you pim then17:01
_Groo_yofel: no ssh, no sftp, no nothing17:01
phononloggershadeslayer: did you blog yet?17:01
phononloggeryofel: do you have a blog yet?17:01
shadeslayerphononlogger: ETOOMANYBUGS in kubuntu17:01
yofelpone17:01
yofel...17:01
yofelnope17:01
shadeslayerfix0ring kpk17:01
phononlogger_Groo_: are you an official minion yet?17:02
phononloggershadeslayer: go blog!17:02
yofelphononlogger: on todo list for nex holidays17:02
phononloggeryofel: go get a blog!17:02
phononlogger_Groo_: go become a minion!17:02
yofel*next17:02
shadeslayerphononlogger: who will fix kpk then?17:02
_Groo_phononlogger: how do i become an oficial minion?17:02
phononloggeryofel: oh dear, that is like in a billion years17:02
shadeslayerphononlogger: stop ordering people around17:02
_Groo_phononlogger: i fell the same oO17:02
phononloggerI need a blog army now!17:02
phononloggershadeslayer: who broke it?17:02
shadeslayer_Groo_: as soon as me and Quintasan become devs, you become minion17:02
* _Groo_ thinks phononlogger is apachelogger :P17:02
shadeslayerphononlogger: KDE 4.617:02
shadeslayer_Groo_: he is17:03
shadeslayerphononlogger: skype again?17:03
yofel_Groo_: PM17:03
phononloggershadeslayer: no17:03
phononlogger@campus17:03
shadeslayerkronos: wanna backport kpackagekit fixes? so that i can write a blog to please phononlogger17:04
phononloggerdiscussing bits and bits and more bits17:04
phononloggerit is madness right there17:04
shadeslayerah17:04
shadeslayerphononlogger: phonon madness i hop17:04
shadeslayer*hope17:04
phononloggerkronos: after backporting go get a blog!17:04
phononloggershadeslayer: no17:04
shadeslayerphononlogger: awww17:04
phononloggerwe are cracking all sorts of encryptions right now17:04
_Groo_shadeslayer: and how soon are you becoming devs?17:04
shadeslayer_Groo_: as soon as we apply17:05
phononloggerwe are currently prooving the universities security messures useless :P17:05
shadeslayeror i hope so :P17:05
shadeslayerlol17:05
shadeslayerphononlogger: i fear rekonq code is like this : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cache:lmgtfy.com17:05
phononloggerI am not clicking this17:05
phononloggernot ever17:05
phononloggerno no no17:05
_Groo_lol17:05
kronosshadeslayer: yup..17:05
phononloggerah, lolz, we now have access to the physic's dudes cluster17:06
_Groo_shadeslayer: and how soon are you aplying?17:06
phononlogger:D :D :D :D17:06
shadeslayerphononlogger: lol17:06
_Groo_shadeslayer: it this like the old tribes traditions? you need to kill an older dev in order to take his place?17:06
shadeslayer_Groo_: hmm .. no application yet :P17:06
shadeslayeroh if it were only that simple17:06
shadeslayeri could have become a dev at UDS17:06
* phononlogger sets some nice motd17:06
phononloggerI clearly missed my calling in becoming a black hat17:07
_Groo_shadeslayer: traditions should be respected more often17:07
shadeslayerphononlogger: ^^17:07
shadeslayerwe need new criteria for becoming kubuntu-dev17:07
Riddell_Groo_: will do koffice today17:07
_Groo_Riddell: k :)17:07
shadeslayeri need to stop and send these insanely important emails17:07
shadeslayerphononlogger: y u no fix my pinentry17:08
_Groo_kutuntu-dev criteria: being alive or barely, being constantly drunk or barely, obligation to shoot apachelogger on site everytime you see it in in wild17:08
phononloggershadeslayer: i am hacking, leave me alone :P17:10
shadeslayerheh17:11
_Groo_phononlogger: is it safe to update phonon and phonon-extremities?17:11
phononloggerno17:11
phononloggergst is broken17:11
_Groo_phononlogger: and vlc? does it know we are in 2011 now and have video?17:13
phononloggeryes17:13
phononloggernot in dragon though17:13
_Groo_phononlogger: but but...17:13
_Groo_phononlogger: does it work in dolphin preview?17:13
_Groo_phononlogger: so... gst X vlc X phonon OK or X?17:14
JontheEchidnayofel: btw, have you had the chance to svn up to see if your missing PPAs in MSC are fixed?17:14
yofeldidn't check yet, sec17:15
_Groo_whats the diference between a unofficial minion and a oficial one? apachelogger/phononlogger cant abuse me anymore?17:17
yofelgood question17:18
yofelJontheEchidna: looks right now, thanks!17:20
JontheEchidnayofel: cool, thanks for testing17:20
shadeslayer_Groo_: unofficial minons cannot be abused by phononlogger :P17:23
_Groo_shadeslayer: im unoficial and he abuses me!17:24
_Groo_shadeslayer: all the time!17:24
DaskreechI thought being abused by phononlogger made them official minons17:24
_Groo_shadeslayer: i have proof!17:24
shadeslayerheh :P17:24
shadeslayerDaskreech: yeah 17:24
_Groo_shadeslayer: im scarred for life cause of him!17:25
shadeslayerlol17:25
shadeslayerhe aint that bad :P17:25
shadeslayerwhy the heck dont these packages get published :|17:25
* _Groo_ prefers to stay in silence ¬¬17:25
shadeslayeri do hate launchpad17:26
shadeslayerlaunchpad--17:26
shadeslayerlaunchpad--17:26
shadeslayerlaunchpad--17:26
shadeslayerlaunchpad--17:26
_Groo_i which LP gods add web uplad 17:26
_Groo_web upload to packages in the ppa17:26
_Groo_so i could use it instead of dput17:26
Daskreech~karma17:33
kubotuDaskreech has neutral karma17:33
_Groo_to whom do i send the debian file for kdepim 4.5.94.1?17:33
_Groo_~karma17:34
kubotu_Groo_ has neutral karma17:34
_Groo_apachelogger ~karma17:34
JontheEchidna~karma17:34
kubotukarma for JontheEchidna: 1217:34
Daskreechwrong way around17:34
Daskreechha17:34
Daskreech~karma ubottu17:34
kubotuubottu has neutral karma17:34
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:35
_Groo_~karma apachelogger17:35
kubotukarma for apachelogger: 1117:35
_Groo_ah WRONG!17:35
_Groo_karma for apachelogger:  absolute evil!17:35
Riddell_Groo_: I assume you compiled this koffice package on maverick?17:41
Riddellit's got some files in the .intall files which I had to remove for natty e.g. usr/lib/kde4/kritachalkpaintop.so17:41
Riddelle.g. kritachalkpaintop.desktop is in debian/krita.install but commented out in krita/plugins/paintops/chalk/CMakeLists.txt17:43
ximionhi there :)17:47
JontheEchidnaximion: hi17:47
Riddellhi ximion 17:47
ximionJontheEchidna: Thanks for uploading the debconf-kde pkg!17:47
shadeslayerRiddell: JontheEchidna new kpk : http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kpk/17:47
JontheEchidnaximion: you're welcome17:47
ximionyou might want to sync PackageKit from Debian Sid17:48
ximionis has some pretty cool new stuff for KDE and a few bugfixes in APTcc17:48
ximionI merged all Ubuntu changes into the Debian pkg, so there should be no remaining Ubuntu-specific changes.17:49
JontheEchidnaximion: you can request that with the requestsync tool. you'll just have to get somebody to ack it. (I can do that)17:52
ximionJontheEchidna: Yep, but there might be reasons why you don't want the new version right now etc., so I asked :P17:54
JontheEchidnaI can't see any. We're not in any sort of freezes yet, so it's all good17:54
_Groo_Riddell: yes i did them for maverick17:55
JontheEchidna(and I can do the request if you're more comfortable that way)17:56
_Groo_Riddell: and kritachalk was active in the cmake, i didnt changed it, its almost stock17:56
_Groo_Riddell: and its working here too :)17:56
shadeslayerRiddell: did you upload kpk?17:57
shadeslayerbecause it needs a bug number added to changelog17:57
ximion!info python-dev17:57
ubottupython-dev (source: python-defaults): header files and a static library for Python (default). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.6-2ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 0 kB, installed size 24 kB17:58
_Groo_Riddell: but anyway is it wrong with kritachalk enabled?17:59
ximionJontheEchidna: The new package uses dh python2 instead of the pycentral dh module.17:59
JontheEchidna!info python-dev natty17:59
ubottupython-dev (source: python-defaults): header files and a static library for Python (default). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.1-0ubuntu4 (natty), package size 0 kB, installed size 32 kB17:59
ximionJontheEchidna: Ah, all good ^^17:59
ximionsome lower versions had a bug, which would make the pk build fail.17:59
Riddellximion: we have one remaining patch in packagekit compared to debian, ubuntu_01_null_selection_crash.diff18:00
ximionRiddel: Hmm, let me see...18:00
Riddellximion: I just uploaded it to natty, shadeslayer did the merge18:01
shadeslayerximion: yeah its fixed18:02
ximionRiddell: Thanks! LP rejected my sync-request:18:02
ximionSorry, something went wrong when Launchpad tried processing your mail.18:02
ximionWe've recorded what happened, and we'll fix it as soon as possible.18:02
ximionApologies for the inconvenience.18:02
shadeslayerone sec18:02
ximionshadeslayer: Jep, but in PK 0.6.12, I guess18:02
Riddellshadeslayer: your kpackagekit package there contains kpackagekit-0.6.3.3/debian/.pc/ which isn't right18:03
shadeslayerwill fix .. on the phone18:04
ximionpatch of Sunday December 19 2010, so not in PK 0.6.11 - I'll add it to the Debian repos, as it might take some weeks until PK 0.6.12 is released.18:04
Riddellshadeslayer: I'll just delete it18:04
Riddellshadeslayer: do you have QUILT_PATCHES set in your .bashrc?18:04
Riddellximion: great18:05
Riddell+#kubuntu_05_hide_rollback_button.difffile:///home/shadeslayer/Packaging/kpk/kpackagekit-0.6.2/debian18:05
Riddellshadeslayer: that looks wrong18:05
shadeslayer:S18:06
Riddellshadeslayer: I presume you compiled and tested kpackagekit?18:07
shadeslayeryep...18:07
Riddellshadeslayer: great, uploaded, thanks18:08
mgraesslin_shadeslayer: what's the rekonq mailinglist address?18:09
shadeslayermgraesslin_: rekonq@kde.org18:09
mgraesslin_shadeslayer: thanks, just sent a long mail18:10
shadeslayerkewl :)18:11
mgraesslin_moderation queue18:11
shadeslayerhehehe18:17
shadeslayermgraesslin_: can you cc me a copy?18:36
shadeslayerseems kronos quit18:36
mgraesslin_shadeslayer: your mail address?18:36
shadeslayermgraesslin_: rohangarg AT ubuntu DOT com18:36
Riddell_Groo_: did you work out if you or kronos is packaging akonadi/kdepim ?18:37
mgraesslin_sent18:37
shadeslayergit it :)18:37
shadeslayerRiddell: _Groo_ afaik i asked kronos to switch to backporting kpk18:38
shadeslayerif only he would listen to me and not PM me :P18:38
shadeslayeralso18:40
Riddellhttp://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.5.518:40
shadeslayeri shall a) Blog after this and b) submit Cfp's18:40
shadeslayerno more packaging work for today18:40
_Groo_im backporting kdepim as we speak, almost ready now18:40
* _Groo_ hates docbooks and waiting for dockbooks to complete compiling :P18:41
Riddell_Groo_: backporting?  what about natty?18:41
shadeslayeraye ^^18:41
_Groo_Riddell: all at good time dear sir XD18:42
_Groo_Riddell: i have maverick so i usually do it first to see if the stupid thing ACTUALLY compiles.. then i do natty and send them to ppa for testing18:43
Riddellok18:43
_Groo_Riddell: in this case... i went maverick also cause i want kdepim :D18:43
Riddell_Groo_: you're doing akonadi 1.4.95 too?18:43
_Groo_Riddell: i actually did, but shadeslayer did it first, someone forgot to copy maverick backport to experimental18:44
_Groo_Riddell: so i didnt know and did it myself, but only locally18:44
Riddellexperimental depends on maverick backports so that's fine18:44
_Groo_Riddell: yeah but acording to shadeslayer he did maverick too, but only natty was available in experimental18:45
Riddellwhy is natty akonadi in experimental?18:45
yofelI think shadeslayer got the wrong release by mistake when uploading18:45
shadeslayermgraesslin_: Btw. our Alt+Tab code is so strongly abstracted from KWin that you could easily integrate it as a ctrl+tab to walk through browser tabs ;-)  <<< OMG OMG OMG18:45
Riddelloh experimental depends on beta not backports18:46
_Groo_Riddell: dont know! dont hit the messenger! im just "twitting" what i read here Xo18:46
shadeslayeryep ^^18:46
_Groo_brb18:46
shadeslayerwait wait wait18:46
neversfeldewhy is there no diff.gz for choqok in natty? http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/choqok18:46
shadeslayerwhat do you want to do? :P18:46
mgraesslin_shadeslayer: my next big project will be make effects independend from compositing (for testing), so that the effects framework could also be used in rekonq18:46
mgraesslin_e.g. coverswitch for browser tabs18:47
Riddellneversfelde: looks like it was wrongly uploaded as a native package18:47
shadeslayermgraesslin++18:47
shadeslayermgraesslin++18:47
shadeslayerwhat do you want to do? :P18:47
shadeslayererm18:47
shadeslayermgraesslin++18:47
Riddellshadeslayer: looks like akonadi 1.4.95 still needs packaged for both natty and maverick, do you agree?18:47
shadeslayerRiddell: 1.4.95 is already packaged for natty iirc18:48
Riddellshadeslayer: where?18:48
shadeslayerexperimental ppa18:48
Riddelloh right18:48
neversfeldeRiddell: I have a package of the rc1 for maverick and lucid, but I am not sure how to update the natty package?18:48
shadeslayerneeds a backport to maverick -> yes18:48
shadeslayerKDE PIM 4.5.94.1 needs packaging for natty and maverick -> yes18:49
Riddellshadeslayer: akonadi can just go in the main archive, no need for PPA for natty18:49
Riddellneversfelde: well download the current package and grab the debian/ directory out of it?18:49
Riddellshadeslayer: I'll upload it now18:49
shadeslayerRiddell: ok ...18:50
neversfeldeRiddell: ok, I already did this, I will do some more testing and attach it to a bug in lp18:50
shadeslayerill backport kpk till then18:50
Riddellshadeslayer: you don't trust kronos to do that?18:50
shadeslayerRiddell: he isnt around, and the bug annoys alot of people18:51
Riddellshadeslayer: aren't you busy blogging and submitting? :)18:52
shadeslayerim going to do that after backporting :P18:52
shadeslayerdantti: i can build kpk with packagekit 0.6.8?18:53
shadeslayerthe latest 0.6.3.3 release18:54
danttishadeslayer: yes18:54
shadeslayerok18:54
danttishadeslayer: it's just that fedora needed to searchGroups with QStrings, but that method is not used when HAVE_APPINSTALL which is set on kubuntu18:55
shadeslayerohk18:55
shadeslayerRiddell: where did you find file:///home/shadeslayer/Packaging/kpk/kpackagekit-0.6.3.3/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_downgrade_packagekit_dep.diff ???18:59
Riddellshadeslayer: in debian/patches/series19:00
shadeslayerdamn it19:00
RiddellI tidied it up before upload19:00
shadeslayerthanks ...19:00
Riddellshadeslayer: akonadi uploaded, thanks19:01
shadeslayer:)19:02
* shadeslayer got sloppy over the last 2 uploads19:02
_Groo_you guys know why im getting lots of this lately? : Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/lintian/checks/deb-format line 6319:08
_Groo_Riddell: btw both akonadi (which is needed) and kdepim are complete for maverick, im doing kdepim-runtime now19:09
_Groo_Riddell: akonadi 1.4.95 and kdepim 1.4.95.119:09
_Groo_Riddell: actually scratch that, im still moving some files around in install for kdepim19:10
_Groo_4.5.94.119:10
neversfeldeshadeslayer: what was the reason for not using debsrc 3.0 format for choqok?19:13
shadeslayerneversfelde: snuggling up to debian19:13
neversfeldeshadeslayer: ok19:13
_Groo_shadeslayer: i have daily build for choqok if you need19:13
_Groo_shadeslayer: i did a recipe some time ago and it builds choqok daily19:13
shadeslayeryofel: ^^19:13
shadeslayer_Groo_: we can haz for neon19:13
_Groo_shadeslayer: yofel was aware of it, i dont know if he added it to neon19:13
_Groo_shadeslayer: i also do ktorrent and amarok daily builds19:13
_Groo_shadeslayer: k3b is in the todo19:13
shadeslayer_Groo_: yeah but with the standard packages i guess19:13
shadeslayerdude ... come join us in #project-neon19:14
shadeslayerwe rant about phononlogger there19:14
_Groo_lol19:14
shadeslayerand for fun we do daily builds19:14
_Groo_shadeslayer: amarok is built with all packages including coverbling19:14
shadeslayerbut ranting is the main thing19:14
=== mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin
_Groo_if my memory serves me right, yofel was going to promote my admission but you werent around and it stayed that way19:19
_Groo_why arent we using th dbus services in kdepim? from the non-installed file: ./usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.mailtransport.service.xml  for ex19:25
_Groo_just curious19:25
Riddell_Groo_: those are developer files, they're not needed for running apps19:33
Riddellthey're essentially APIs like .h files and they shouldn't be installed unless known to be stable19:33
_Groo_Riddell: ah ok :)19:33
_Groo_Riddell: can you take a look at the missing files, im gonna pastebin it... mostly are html ones, just a sec19:33
Riddell_Groo_: I'm going to lunch, back in 20 mins19:34
_Groo_Riddell: k19:34
shadeslayer_Groo_: go ahead and pastebin i can haz look19:35
_Groo_shadeslayer: k, sec19:36
_Groo_shadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/DD82QpaW19:36
yofelRiddell: btw. any reason why kdesdk-dev is empty? Someone did ask about the missing libkateinterfaces.so which is in not-installed19:37
_Groo_shadeslayer: html files its ok to add, my question is the mobile bins19:37
shadeslayer_Groo_: leave the mobile bins19:37
shadeslayerthese packages are not built for armel, hence no point in including the,19:38
shadeslayer*them19:38
_Groo_shadeslayer: and desktop and evetyhing related to mobile?19:38
shadeslayer_Groo_: eh?19:38
_Groo_shadeslayer: like -./usr/share/applications/kde4/tasks-mobile.desktop19:38
shadeslayereverything related to mobile should be left out19:38
_Groo_shadeslayer: and below -./usr/share/kde4/apps/tasks-mobile/BulkActionComponent.qml19:38
shadeslayerneeds to be split into a mobile package later on19:38
_Groo_shadeslayer: k19:39
_Groo_ok, so its basically done, the html part can be left out also, right?19:39
shadeslayer_Groo_: needs to be split out into mobile package, which is for later19:39
_Groo_the docbook stuff i mean19:39
shadeslayerdocs19:39
shadeslayerhmm19:39
shadeslayeryofel: ^^ any comments19:39
shadeslayerpossibly split into new docs package?19:39
_Groo_shadeslayer: isnt a nono to add new packages so we dont differ from debian eggheads?19:40
shadeslayerheh19:40
shadeslayer_Groo_: debian hasnt packaged these yet, so who knows what they will do with doc files19:41
yofelwe already differ enough, and it's not like they even have 4.519:41
shadeslayeryep19:41
shadeslayeryofel: 4.6 rather19:41
yofelI don't see 4.5 either19:41
shadeslayerah 19:42
_Groo_can i wait for rc1 at least? docs tend to move around a lot, and im lazy to do an install file for things that change a lot before a release :P19:42
yofeland I would say a new doc package too, but I don't know if that should be seperated by language (that would be a lot...)19:42
_Groo_yofel: for all the 63 plus klingon?????19:43
_Groo_yofel: give it to apachelogger XD19:43
yofelok, forget that, we would need to clone apachelogger to manage that19:43
shadeslayerheh ^^19:43
shadeslayerid suggest having something like : kdepim-docs-{$LANG}19:44
_Groo_shadeslayer: is it that big we need to be that picky? if its small just put them all in one package19:45
shadeslayer_Groo_: people like small packages :P19:46
_Groo_shadeslayer: AH!!!19:46
shadeslayereasily installable etc :P19:46
_Groo_shadeslayer: thats a myth to make you feel good!19:46
shadeslayerquick downloads 19:46
shadeslayer_Groo_: dude .. its a PITA to install a 40 MB package over a 256Kbps connection19:46
_Groo_shadeslayer: ok ok ¬¬19:47
_Groo_shadeslayer: i know :D19:47
shadeslayerive experienced it first hand :P19:47
shadeslayerkronos: ive fixed kpk :P19:47
_Groo_shadeslayer: but im all for making dial ups and slow dsl line users suffer19:47
shadeslayeryou can fix FTBFS19:47
yofelinstall project-neon-all-dbg, *that*'s heavy :P19:47
shadeslayerheh :P19:47
shadeslayeryofel: you install project-neon-all ...19:48
shadeslayerinfact19:48
shadeslayergood thing i installed it at UDS19:48
_Groo_k doing kdepim-runtime19:48
_Groo_should be done in a few minutes... and all done for maverick :)19:48
* kronos has to read 50 pages on computer networking before sleeping ..19:48
yofelI have both installed, that's why I'm constantly out of disk space19:48
shadeslayeryofel: my lightning talk was in like 10 mins .. and wrote : sudo apt-get install project-neon-all .... done in 7 mins19:49
shadeslayernow that was speed19:49
shadeslayerkronos: heh :P19:49
shadeslayerkronos: exam?19:49
_Groo_shadeslayer: how many MBs per sec?19:49
shadeslayer_Groo_: dont remember 19:49
shadeslayer2MBps or something ....19:49
_Groo_shadeslayer: thats only 200kBytes/sec19:49
kronosshadeslayer: yeah ... sort of ..19:50
shadeslayer_Groo_: no .. i used capital B19:50
shadeslayers/B/M19:50
_Groo_shadeslayer: ah still slow19:50
shadeslayernot 2mbps19:50
shadeslayer2MBps19:50
_Groo_shadeslayer: i have 2GIGABYTES here19:50
shadeslayer_Groo_: data center19:50
neversfeldebug #701178  and also in bzr19:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 701178 in choqok (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] new upstream release candidate 0.9.98" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70117819:50
shadeslayeryofel: how modular is neon>?19:50
_Groo_shadeslayer: unfortunatelly my notebook is plugged to a stupid 100MB ethernet :P so i cant use it all19:51
shadeslayer_Groo_: hah19:51
_Groo_shadeslayer: telecom company :D fiver optics19:51
_Groo_fiber19:51
shadeslayer*nerdgasm*19:51
yofelwell, there are packages for every kde module, and we'll probably get more modular after git move19:51
yofelkdepim was already split into pim and -runtime19:51
_Groo_shadeslayer: but i go all the way to 10MB/sec with aft-fast :)19:51
_Groo_yofel: yeah ill see kdepim-docs when it reaches rc1 at least19:52
shadeslayersomeone fix pinenetry :(19:55
shadeslayernow to blog19:56
shadeslayerno wait .. Cfp first19:56
_Groo_shadeslayer: what do you blog so much about?19:58
shadeslayer_Groo_: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com << go find out19:58
Riddellhola19:59
shadeslayerRiddell: that was a quick lunch20:00
shadeslayerhmm20:00
shadeslayerBio .... 20:00
shadeslayerRiddell: submit a talk first! even before the visa :P20:01
Riddellshadeslayer: the trick with lunches are to wait until there's no queue, then they take half the time20:01
Riddellshadeslayer: I've already submitted 4!20:01
shadeslayer:O20:01
_Groo_shadeslayer: no no no im not opening that link nonononono20:01
shadeslayerRiddell: what topics? :P20:01
Riddellshadeslayer: Kubuntu, My KDE journey, packaging .debs and PyKDE tutorial20:02
Riddell_Groo_: did you find homes for all those files?20:03
shadeslayerpyth0rn20:03
shadeslayerso first up ... Neon talk20:04
_Groo_Riddell: hum what files?20:04
shadeslayerRiddell: no theyre going to be out in the street for a while :P20:04
shadeslayer_Groo_: PIM20:04
Riddell_Groo_: http://pastebin.com/DD82QpaW20:06
_Groo_Riddell: the doc ones?20:07
_Groo_Riddell: im leaving them to bit rot :) 20:07
_Groo_Riddell: i was saying here im gonna wait for rc1 to create a -doc for them20:07
_Groo_Riddell: they usually change a lot before rcs...20:07
Riddellyeah that's fine, they used to be part of kde-l10n but now kdepim is separated from kde SC I guess they put them in with kdepim20:08
_Groo_Riddell: acording to shadeslayer or yofel, dont remember, the mobile ones are suposed to be left out for now too20:08
Riddell_Groo_: mobile ones should be packaged20:08
_Groo_Riddell: but but, they werent so far!20:09
shadeslayerRiddell: well .. they wont build for armel20:09
shadeslayerso no point in packaging them right now20:09
shadeslayerbetter wait till a RC release and then package them20:09
Riddellapt-cache show korganizer-mobile  says they are20:10
Riddellshadeslayer: why won't they build?20:10
shadeslayerRiddell: since they are going into a PPA?20:10
Riddellit's still useful to run them on i38620:10
shadeslayerhmm ... 20:12
Riddell_Groo_: so add a new tasks-mobile package20:13
Riddell_Groo_: did you find a home for those messageviewer files?20:14
_Groo_Riddell: so i need to add tasks-mobile and docs package?20:16
Riddell_Groo_: tasks-mobile yes, docs is fiddly because really it needs a separate one per language then kde-l10n-xx modified to depend on it20:16
* _Groo_ head hurts20:16
Riddell_Groo_: so maybe just file a bug to remind us about the docs issue20:16
_Groo_Riddell: can i scream now?20:16
Riddellsure, it's IRC, I won't hear :)20:17
QuintasanRiddell: He's going to call you while you're sleeping and scream right when you pick up the phone ^_^20:19
_Groo_Quintasan: now thats an idea i like20:20
QuintasanOops.20:20
* Quintasan hides20:20
Riddell|20:20
RiddellQuintasan: good thing I don't have a phone :)20:21
QuintasanReally?20:21
QuintasanNot even a cell/mobile phone?20:21
Riddellyeah, my landline got cut off ages ago randomly one day20:21
shadeslayerRiddell: what did you write in Bio? .... Superior Head Kubuntu Dev?20:21
Riddelland I'm in the US now anyway where my GSM phone doesn't work20:21
shadeslayerRiddell: what!! 20:21
shadeslayerwait .... i thought you were in UK? :P20:21
Riddellthis week I'm in the US20:21
QuintasanRiddell: damn US & A'dians and their CDMA20:22
shadeslayerQuintasan++20:22
shadeslayeri wish they made a Droid X in a GSM model20:22
Riddellit's actually quite a good situation, I don't need a landline and now I get free internet20:22
Quintasanshadeslayer: >Droid X20:22
Quintasanenjoy ur locked bootloader20:22
shadeslayerits still a good phone20:23
Quintasanphononlogger: hey, get us a kubotu in #project-neon20:23
kubotuhowdy Quintasan20:23
Quintasankubotu: go to #project-neon20:23
shadeslayerwhat what what20:23
Quintasanain't workin' :/20:23
shadeslayerkubotu: join #project-neon20:23
kubotushadeslayer, you don't have 'basics::move::join' permissions here20:23
shadeslayermeh20:23
_Groo_Riddell: do you have skype? sip? i can scream there20:23
Quintasanphononlogger: We've got some bzr--'s to add20:23
shadeslayerjussi: i need kubotu20:23
shadeslayerin #project-neon20:23
jussimhm??20:23
shadeslayerwhere we will have cybersex with him20:24
jussitalk to  harald...20:24
QuintasanWhat?20:24
jussishadeslayer: not appropriate for here20:24
shadeslayerharald is running the bot?20:24
jussiharald runs kubotu, yes20:24
Quintasanshadeslayer: Where is the poking stick I gave you?20:24
shadeslayerjussi: but isnt it hosted by you?20:24
jussiyes20:25
Quintasanshadeslayer: Use it once in a while or it'll get rusty20:25
shadeslayeroh .. you dont have admin rights20:25
shadeslayerok20:25
shadeslayerjussi: k back to work :P20:25
jussishadeslayer: but it runs from his shell, I dont touch others stuff20:25
* shadeslayer pokes phononlogger20:25
shadeslayerQuintasan: isnt harald banned on #project-neon ? :P20:25
shadeslayeror was it a kick20:25
* jussi wishes Harald would stop changing his nick...20:25
Riddellrbelem: ping20:25
QuintasanI didn't ban him20:26
Quintasan:O20:26
shadeslayerQuintasan: kick then? 20:26
QuintasanIt was because he stared a infinite loop between two bots on our channel, don't remember?20:26
QuintasanI kicked him along with the bots :P20:27
shadeslayerhmm20:27
shadeslayeri can bring in a rbot for a while20:27
shadeslayernot forever tho20:27
Quintasankubotu has cookies tho20:27
shadeslayerleave it running on my laptop overnigh20:27
QuintasanI want cookies.20:27
shadeslayerQuintasan: i can add that plugin20:27
shadeslayerquite trivial20:27
shadeslayerRiddell: canonical sprint in US? 20:28
jussi!cookie20:30
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:30
jussi!cookie | shadeslayer20:30
ubottushadeslayer: please see above20:30
jussi:D20:30
shadeslayerkewl :D20:30
shadeslayerbut kubotu is far kewler20:30
jussiI should insist I get admin rights for kubotu since we host it :D20:31
Quintasanphononlogger: ^^20:31
jussiphononlogger: can has admin?20:31
Quintasanjussi++20:31
Quintasan~karma jussi20:31
kubotukarma for jussi: 120:31
jussiright, Im off for a bit20:32
Riddellhi stalcup, I announced 4.5.5, thanks for the packaging20:34
QuintasanRiddell, stalcup: When is the meeting?20:34
Riddelldunno, I can't work out the timezones on that doodle20:35
QuintasanI'm UTC+1 :P20:35
shadeslayerlol20:35
ulyssesCEST20:35
shadeslayerUTC+5:3020:35
shadeslayeri win20:35
Quintasanshadeslayer: not really20:36
Riddellbut I don't know what the doodle is20:36
QuintasanIf they pick 20:00 UTC then you get some crappy hour :P20:36
shadeslayerheh :P20:37
shadeslayeryeah ... one of the times is 5:30 AM20:37
_Groo_im tired, im gonna try to to finish kdepim mess tomorrow20:42
_Groo_first run is done http://pastebin.com/NNaWp8jj20:44
_Groo_im gonna make tracker mobile tomorrow, and try to move the remaining stuff in kdepim around, kdepim-runtime is aok20:44
_Groo_although what the .mo files are supsoed to do?20:44
Riddellthey're translations20:46
Riddellwhich also used to be in kde-l10n but now aren't20:46
Riddellwe should add conflict20:46
Riddellwe should add conflicts20:46
Riddelllots of them :(20:46
_Groo_Riddell: why do you hate me :P20:51
_Groo_Riddell: for now im gonna do tracker-mobile20:51
_Groo_Riddell: anything else? :P20:52
Riddellnope20:52
_Groo_Riddell: ok i installed im my machine.. still here o/20:53
_Groo_seeya guys tomrrow20:55
sheytanphononlogger hey20:56
shadeslayerRiddell: yofel would 45 mins be enough for explaining neon?20:56
shadeslayerDifficulty : Intermediate20:56
sheytanphononlogger a question: in ku 11.04 we will not have that nice popup that will install all stuff like codecs, flash, etc at once? Everything will be installed separatly depending on the app you open like amarok/dragon player?20:57
Riddellshadeslayer: yes20:58
yofelshould be enough, I'll probably work out some actual usage instructions soon then20:59
yofeland we need to update the wiki page on techbase20:59
shadeslayeryus20:59
Riddellyofel: this is neon?21:01
yofeler, yes, that was about neon21:01
Riddellwill we get an announcement soon then?21:02
shadeslayerRiddell: nope ... we are waiting on KDE to move to git :(21:02
yofelhopefully, but neon will be in a half-working state until someone fixes bzr21:02
shadeslayeryeah ... bzr is a huge roadblock21:03
shadeslayerfor eg. no daily qtwebkit builds21:03
yofeloh, that fails too? ^^21:03
shadeslayeryep21:03
Riddellwhat's wrong with bzr?21:03
shadeslayeryofel: i tried doing one at UDS .. thats when the problem was discovered iirc21:03
shadeslayerRiddell: consumes too much memory21:04
shadeslayerso much so that the build farm gets unstable 21:04
yofelRiddell: more memory than the buildds have, so bzr gets killed as self-protection -> build fails21:04
yofelRiddell: see bug 68158221:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 681582 in Launchpad itself "fails to build with "bzr: out of memory"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68158221:05
shadeslayersomeone ought to set that has Critical21:05
yofelwhich goes actually back as far as bug 10911421:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 109114 in Bazaar "[master] bzr holds whole files in memory; raises MemoryError on large files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10911421:05
sheytanRiddell yo!21:05
Riddellhi sheytan 21:05
sheytanRiddell how's the page? :)21:05
sheytancd image21:05
Riddellhope to take a look at it this afternoon21:06
sheytanRiddell cool! can't wait to see it alive :)21:06
sheytanRiddell ping me when it comes alive :D21:06
Riddellwas also trying to talk to syadmins about getting kubuntu.org to not need them to update it21:06
Riddellbut no reponse yet21:06
shadeslayersysadmins are slow21:08
shadeslayerRiddell: the wiki needs a new version of moin moin ... there are like 3-4 tickets on rt.canonical ... nothing :P21:08
yofelI would rather they fix the fact that I get an 'Internal Server Error' every time I save a wiki page :(21:09
shadeslayerthat too :(21:09
shadeslayerprobably fixed in newer Moin Moin21:09
Riddellshadeslayer: why does it need a newer moin?21:10
shadeslayerRiddell: the current one doesnt let people with TZ as Asia/Kolkata edit wiki pages21:11
shadeslayerwhich includes me21:11
shadeslayerso i had to change the TZ to something else on my LP page21:11
Riddelloh aye, nasty21:12
shadeslayerso all the times on wiki's are foobared :P21:12
shadeslayerfor me atleast21:12
Riddelland a billion other people21:13
shadeslayer^_^21:13
shadeslayeri doubt a billion other people use the ubuntu wiki :P21:13
shadeslayeryou never know tho21:13
shadeslayerRiddell: how big should a abstract be? :P21:13
shadeslayeri have like ....11 lines with the default size of the widget21:14
Riddellshadeslayer: mine were only two or three sentences21:17
Riddelljust however long it needs to outline what the talk is about21:17
sheytanRiddell i hope they will agree, if not, we will never finish the page ;(21:18
Riddellsheytan: who will agree?21:18
sheytanRiddell sysadmins21:19
Riddellsheytan: to which?21:20
sheytanRiddell the kubuntu page21:20
sheytanwe need like better access to the srv, right?21:20
Riddelloh to kubuntu.org, yes21:20
stalcupRiddell: no problem!  and you can change the date at the top21:36
Riddellwhat dat?21:39
Riddelldate21:39
shadeslayerRiddell: the timezone .... you can set the time zone at the top of the calendar21:41
shadeslayerphononlogger: Neon talk submitted21:41
Riddellshadeslayer: ?21:41
shadeslayerRiddell: http://i.imgur.com/LB7wi.png21:42
Riddellshadeslayer: oh right, I just wasn't sure what is was on by default21:43
Riddellit seems that apachelogger offered to be at meetings at 04:00 his time21:43
Riddellbut maybe that's normal for him21:43
shadeslayerheh21:43
shadeslayeri bet phonon keeps him up all night ^_^21:43
sheytanshadeslayer i hope you guys will implement at least some of my nice features :D21:55
shadeslayerhehehe21:55
shadeslayerwell ... as long as someone can make them in HTML521:55
sheytanshadeslayer isn't js enough for that?21:56
shadeslayersheytan: well .. JS/HTML5/CSS21:56
shadeslayerjust no flash :P21:57
shadeslayeri think HTML5+CSS can probably give us more interaction 21:57
sheytanshadeslayer flash is evil21:57
shadeslayerand HTML5 is the in thing ...21:57
sheytanwell, it's not me to choose te technology here :D21:57
sheytananyway, hope someone will make it :)21:57
shadeslayeryeah :D21:58
shadeslayersheytan: our new logo : http://weavesilk.com/?6d :P22:14
sheytanshadeslayer such a big one? :P22:23
shadeslayerhehe :D22:23
shadeslayerRiddell: uh about bug 69334522:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 693345 in kdebindings (Ubuntu) "libkde4-ruby1.8 does not depend on anything" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69334522:32
shadeslayeri have : http://paste.ubuntu.com/55261822:32
shadeslayeri dont see the problem....22:32
yofelI have 22:33
yofelVersion: 4:4.5.90-0ubuntu122:33
yofelDepends: libqt4-ruby1.822:33
shadeslayerinteresting22:34
shadeslayeri have KDE 4.5.9522:34
shadeslayerand yet those bindings say 4.5.5 0.o22:35
shadeslayerha22:35
Riddellshadeslayer: well you're not using natty packages at a guess22:36
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah ... thats the issue i suppose22:36
yofelwell, I'm off to bed, good night22:38
shadeslayeryofel: night22:39
shadeslayerim in bed ... j ust not sleepy22:40
shadeslayerand its 4AM !22:40
shadeslayerNeed to get 503MB of archives. << *cringe*22:58
shadeslayerwell22:58
shadeslayernot that bad22:58
shadeslayerAfter this operation, 1,231MB of additional disk space will be used. << thats what's bad22:58
shadeslayeranyhow .. night all22:58
* shadeslayer starts cloning qtwebkit23:09
Riddellshadeslayer: that might take all night...23:11
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah .... leaving it running23:11
shadeslayerit was either this or install neon :P23:11
shadeslayerRiddell: ill try to build with v8 support ....23:11
shadeslayerand see how much faster stuff is 23:12
shadeslayeri can link rekonq against the newer webkit and test 23:12
shadeslayeralso ... i can sanpshot and upload for neon ^_^23:13
shadeslayernight all23:14

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