[00:22] <ChrisDruif> Did you find it arkanabar?
[00:52] <johnny77> I saw this http://wiki.lxde.org/en/How_to_start_applications_on_specific_desktops but when I try it, it doesn't seem to work.
[00:54] <ChrisDruif> I would be thrilled to learn how to open programs on specific desktops :D
[00:54] <ChrisDruif> Maybe I can make more sense of it :)
[00:55] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: I was thinking it may need a restart, but haven't tried it yet because I'm working on other things.
[00:56] <ChrisDruif> Might be the case :)
[00:57] <ChrisDruif> Some settings only get applied after a logout/restart :)
[01:09] <stlsaint> you dont have to restart the entire system to get a basic restart
[01:09] <stlsaint> [code]
[01:09] <stlsaint> sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm restart
[01:09] <stlsaint> [/code]
[01:10] <stlsaint> that will restart lxdm and bring you to the login screen
[01:10] <stlsaint> without rebooting the computer
[01:16] <ChrisDruif> Alright...didn't know that :)
[01:16] <stlsaint> ChrisDruif: nice eh :D
[01:16] <ChrisDruif> Learn everyday....great day today :P
[01:16] <stlsaint> i use it all the time
[01:16] <stlsaint> yep yep
[01:18] <ChrisDruif> restarting lxdm and conceptualization :D
[01:24] <arkanabar> ChrisDruif, sorry, was afk.
[01:24] <ChrisDruif> It's owkay :)
[01:29] <arkanabar> ChrisDruif, there is no package "sound" in synaptic.  did you right-click the item and select properties?
[01:37] <ChrisDruif> phillw: ping
[01:38] <jmarsden> What is still needed to be done for Lubuntu to become "official" as a Ubuntu distribution?  Is there a wiki page or other info about this somewhere??
[01:39] <ChrisDruif> phillw: arkanabar was having some questions about the sound in Lubuntu, maybe you know something?
[01:39] <phillw> jmarsden: Canonical are currently writing up the rules for adopting a new member of the family. We are already treated as a full member by all teams I interact with.
[01:40] <phillw> ChrisDruif: bioterror would be best to help on that.
[01:40] <jmarsden> OK, great.  I saw an article saying Lubuntu was trying to gain official acceptance, and was wondering if there was any technical work still needed for that.  Might be good to put a status page on this aspecty of Lubuntu somewhere on the wiki?
[01:42] <arkanabar> bioterror, are you on?
[01:42] <jmarsden> arkanabar: His away msg says he is "not here" :)
[01:42] <phillw> jmarsden: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=251
[01:42] <arkanabar> yippee.  I need to fix my audio capture configuration, and have no clue.
[01:43] <phillw> arkanabar: that makes two of us. The tech guys are tucked up safely in bed, please be patient.
[01:44] <phillw> arkanabar: we do take the straight jackets off them for a few hours each day :P
[01:45] <arkanabar> if you know a CLI tool to do it, that'd work for me.
[01:47] <jmarsden> arkanabar: aplay? alsamixer?  What exactly do you want to do with your sound?
[01:48] <phillw> arkanabar: I've had a quick dive through the email archives, and see no issues reported? Can you be more specific as to your problem?
[01:49] <arkanabar> school requires capturing sound from mic for assignments.  I chose gnome sound recorder.
[01:49] <arkanabar> running gnome sound recorder, I get "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them with the "Sound Preferences" under the System Preferences menu."
[01:50] <arkanabar> that message is written for gnome interface, which I don't have.
[01:52] <jmarsden> arkanabar: If you prefer a command line tool, try arecord.
[01:52] <arkanabar> given my environment, I absolutely require push-to-talk.
[01:55] <jmarsden> I'm a bit confused... at 17:45:05 Pacific you said "<arkanabar> if you know a CLI tool to do it, that'd work for me." If arecord won't suit, and you can't get Gnome sound recorder to work, have you tried audacity?
[01:57] <arkanabar> CLI tool to configure audio capture.  sorry.
[01:57] <arkanabar> let me go try audacity.
[01:58] <stlsaint> hyperair: welcome back
[01:59] <hyperair> hello
[01:59] <ChrisDruif> But my loves, I'm going to bed....3AM over here :P
[02:01] <stlsaint> l8er
[02:01] <stlsaint> hyperair: sup
[02:11] <phillw> hyperair: could you have quick chat with arkanabar about his sound issue?
[02:12] <hyperair> phillw: sorry, at work
[02:12] <phillw> okies
[02:48] <arkanabar> I read man arecord, and I figured out what I need to know to use it.
[08:06] <bioterror> hi sz
[08:08] <szczur> hi bioterror
[08:08] <bioterror> szczur, http://ietherpad.com/IbFVN4F0Rt did you see this one?
[08:10] <szczur> nice one :)
[08:10] <bioterror> szczur, you can contribute too into it
[08:10] <bioterror> szczur, if you have something in your mind
[08:11] <szczur> i'm ill right now but i'll add something to it later :)
[08:14] <bioterror> oh someone is editing as anonym ;D
[08:15] <szczur> >_> :P
[08:16] <bioterror> hahaha
[08:17] <bioterror> I was logged as you :D
[08:17] <bioterror> :D:D
[08:17] <bioterror> but hey, that works
[08:17] <bioterror> damn that will be a killer!
[08:26] <bioterror> ahhh
[08:26] <bioterror> I have registered a certain page
[08:26] <bioterror> easier to remember
[08:29] <bioterror> http://lubuntu.ietherpad.com/1
[08:30] <bioterror> that should work now
[08:30] <bioterror> I can add users :)
[08:30] <bioterror> we can easily add stuff to there and move them to wiki or something
[08:30] <bioterror> phillw, what do you think
[08:42] <head_victim> bioterror: you've pretty much covered all the basics on that.
[08:42] <head_victim> Some of which will be fixed next release (hopefully :) )
[08:43] <bioterror> we get new ones
[08:43] <bioterror> ;D
[08:43] <bioterror> dont you worry about that one ;)
[08:51] <head_victim> Ooh good stuff
[09:19] <yuler> I've a 700Mhz P3 with 384mb RAM (giving some to intel 82815 video chipset).  Can lubuntu turn it into a responsive computer?
[09:20] <bioterror> yes and no
[09:20] <bioterror> I suggest to get more RAM, but it will be "usable", I bet ;)
[09:21] <yuler> That might be difficult, considering it maxes out @ 512mb and is PC100
[09:21] <bioterror> :)
[09:21] <bioterror> not that bad, I think
[09:22] <yuler> I wouldn't know where to look for hardware 10 years old
[09:23] <bioterror> I would ask from my friends if they has any in their desks or shelves
[09:23] <yuler> I've considered Xubuntu for the task, but it seems lubuntu is even lighter
[09:23] <bioterror> and I know, they have
[09:23] <bioterror> yuler, go with the Lubuntu
[09:23] <yuler> ah, that assumes I have friends!  :)
[09:23] <bioterror> Xubuntu rides with the fame from the past
[09:29] <yuler> will the instructions to convert Ubuntu to Lubuntu from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde work?
[09:30] <bioterror> yes
[09:31] <bioterror> but I suggest first to do lubuntu-desktop -installation
[09:32] <bioterror> with --no-install-recommends
[09:32] <yuler> that different than sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop?
[09:32] <bioterror> it drops some not needed dependencies installed
[09:33] <bioterror> less stuff on your harddrive
[09:35] <yuler> not sure I follow..
[09:36] <bioterror> ofcourse best thing is to install Lubuntu 10.10 from the CD ;)
[09:40] <yuler> I thought I saw a .torrent @ lubuntu.net somewhere....
[09:40] <bioterror> yes
[09:40] <bioterror> I'm seeding one
[09:40] <bioterror> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso.torrent
[09:43] <yuler> The torrent will be a good test because the satellite ISP has been doggedly slow recently
[09:44] <szczur> hmm, i think installing from mini.iso would be faster > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[09:45] <szczur> why install ubuntu and then remove and install another collection of packages
[09:46] <szczur> when you can do it from CLI and then install Lubuntu desktop :)
[09:47] <bioterror> szczur, it's not faster
[09:47] <bioterror> first it takes ages to get that mini iso to computer and then it takes also ages to install packages :D
[09:47] <szczur> depends on speed of your ISP
[09:48] <szczur> errr.. your internet connection
[09:48] <bioterror> well, the mirror is slow
[09:48] <bioterror> :D
[09:49] <szczur> i can argue with this :P
[09:49] <renatov> hello guys!
[09:49] <renatov> good night to all =D
[09:49] <szczur> installing ubuntu on 700 MHz machine with 378 MB of ram only to install lubuntu would be a PITA
[09:50] <szczur> 384*
[09:50] <bioterror> renatov, hi
[09:50] <renatov> =]
[09:50] <szczur> hi renatov
[09:50] <yuler> szczur: why a PITA?
[09:52] <szczur> installing whole ubuntu with GNOME and so on will definitely take some time
[09:52] <szczur> and then you would have to remove all of these packages and install other ones
[09:53] <bioterror> :)
[09:53] <bioterror> no problem if you have time
[09:53] <bioterror> I've had on my wifes laptop ubuntu, kubuntu, xfce, ubuntu :D
[09:55] <szczur> CLI install takes 15 min to download needed packages on 1Mbit internet IIRC (i did it 4 months ago :P)
[09:56] <yuler> Since my inet speed goes as low as 2k/s, I think my bandwidth is best used towards getting the Lubuntu CD once, but I may want to try the Ubuntu rebuild method in the future..
[09:56] <bioterror> 2kb/s?!
[09:56] <szczur> ohh, 2k/s, damn
[09:57] <szczur> it feels like modem connection
[09:57] <bioterror> w00t
[09:57] <szczur> :)
[09:57] <yuler> yea.  Something is really wrong with the satellite.  Acted up about 1-2 weeks ago
[09:57] <bioterror> okay
[09:57] <bioterror> you have to wait that earth is orbiting in right position ;)
[09:57] <renatov> hey guys, I'm having some trouble here using lxde + fluxbox... have you ever tryed?
[09:58] <bioterror> renatov, I cant understand why you want to use lxde wit fluxbox
[09:58] <yuler> Wish I knew how to verify the dish's beam towards the satellite location
[10:00] <renatov> bioterror:  because I prefer fluxbox than openbox... I more used to the first one
[10:00] <renatov> *I'm
[10:00] <bioterror> I've never liked fluxbox
[10:00] <renatov> really? why?
[10:01] <bioterror> dunno, never felt that good
[10:01] <bioterror> I tried first blackbox, I remember that
[10:01] <renatov> blackbox is too old and too limited
[10:02] <renatov> fluxbox and openbox are really similiar, they differ basically in the syntax of the config files
[10:02] <renatov> but I prefer the way fluxbox handles transparency and remember apps attributes
[10:03] <bioterror> well, fluxbox comes with the tasbar
[10:03] <bioterror> task
[10:03] <renatov> yeah, but that taskbar has no start buttom, that's why I use lxde+fluxbox... and lxde has some awesome apps
[10:04] <renatov> I'm using lxde+fluxbox and everything is fine, but when I right click the desktop, fluxbox menu appears and never goes out
[10:04] <renatov> I guess it's because fluxbox menu is configured to desappear when fluxbox desktop is clicked... but it can't be done, because lxde desktop is running
[10:05] <renatov> can you think about some way to handle this problem?
[14:00] <head_victim> bug 701026
[14:00] <head_victim> phillw: ^
[14:36] <ChrisDruif> Awesome bugbot :D
[14:54] <phillw> head_victim: bug has been confirmed :)
[15:49] <evilbug> is lubuntu a live cd?
[15:49] <Mark76> I believe so
[15:50] <Mkaysi> Yes, it is.
[15:50] <evilbug> and what are the specs to boot it? i don't see them on the site.
[15:50] <head_victim> If you have the desktop version it is, the alternate and mini versions are not liveCDs.
[15:51] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu#System%20requirements is a good start for system requirements.
[15:51] <head_victim> Obviously the lower your specs the less responsive it will be.
[15:52] <evilbug> when i clicked the "get lubuntu" link i only got one version, lubuntu-10.10
[15:52] <head_victim> evilbug: ok then that is the desktop version
[15:55] <evilbug> thank you.
[15:56] <head_victim> No problem.
[15:56] <head_victim> The system requirements link I posted also has links to a lower specced "minimal" installation instructions should you have a REALLY old pc
[15:58] <ChrisDruif> Is it possible to run Lubuntu 10.10 in VirtualBox? :-/
[15:58] <evilbug> i'm just trying to run a live desktop on a 2.8gHz p4 256mb ram to save some files off of the hd since the xp installation isn't bootable anymore.
[15:59] <head_victim> ChrisDruif: Should be, I had it going when it wasn't a stable release.
[15:59] <evilbug> and i haven't had any luck with ubuntu or xubuntu
[15:59] <head_victim> evilbug: ah should be ok, that ram is a little low for a livecd
[16:00] <evilbug> since the requirements are 128 for lubuntu i think it'll be better than the min 256mb ubuntu requires.
[16:00] <ChrisDruif> evilbug: Maybe you could try Puppy Linux if that fails...
[16:01] <head_victim> Yeah, I'd give it a go though.
[16:01] <evilbug> i'll see.
[16:01] <evilbug> this computer worked with xp sp2 so i don't see why it would be this slow loading xubuntu or lubuntu even.
[16:02] <head_victim> xp was built 10 or so years ago don't forget ;)
[16:02] <evilbug> but the service packs?
[16:03] <evilbug> plus 2.8 p4 doesn't seem too bad.
[16:04] <head_victim> I'm using a 3.2 p4 right now :D
[16:04] <head_victim> But it's 2am here so I'm heading to bed. Good luck and I'm sure others can help if you run into problems
[16:04] <evilbug> thanks for your help!
[16:04] <evilbug> sleep well.
[16:05] <ChrisDruif> Sleep well head_victim :)
[16:06] <ChrisDruif> 2.66GHz Has run Ubuntu...not very quick, bet neither was XP
[16:06] <evilbug> well ubuntu with a light desktop should be fine.
[16:06] <evilbug> i remember running ubuntu with openbox at only 124mb.
[16:06] <evilbug> on a 2.17 amd xp.
[16:07] <ChrisDruif> Indeed, but it's still from a CD...
[16:07] <ChrisDruif> But I'm a gonna go...have to get going to dinner with some friends :)
[16:08] <evilbug> have a good one.
[16:08] <ChrisDruif> Thnx, will do :)
[16:34] <evilbug> would i be able to copy files from an hdd with a gparted live cd?
[17:05] <evilbug> the desktop finally loaded!
[20:38] <craigbass1976> How do I lock the screen? Shut off sounds (but not all sound, just the little drum noise/system sounds)  I can't seem to find either
[20:38] <Mark76> Hey Kurdistan
[20:39] <Kurdistan> hey mark
[20:42] <Mark76> Sorry I missed you earlier
[20:51] <Kurdistan> brb phone
[20:53] <Mark76> K
[20:53] <Mark76> It's Cale!
[23:21] <r00t4rd3d> how to set clock to 12 hour ?
[23:24] <r00t4rd3d> i cant believe i even have to ask :/
[23:28] <head_victim> r00t4rd3d: if you right click the clock you can open the settings
[23:29] <head_victim> r00t4rd3d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1445622 has some extra information