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AnAnt | Hello, I just tried alpha1, so with unity, apps that use notification area won't show up ? | 08:39 |
kklimonda | AnAnt: indeed, they won't show up in the notification area | 08:54 |
AnAnt | kklimonda: thanks | 09:10 |
huats | morning | 09:21 |
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rodrigo_ | morning | 09:36 |
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highvoltage | hi, any feedback on bug #683833? | 15:41 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 683833 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Unity should be in recommends, not depends for ubuntu-desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683833 | 15:41 |
fagan | highvoltage: I always thought the default interface was always in depends | 15:41 |
fagan | (for ubuntu-desktop) | 15:42 |
highvoltage | fagan: indeed, but that was when it just provided one interface | 15:43 |
fagan | highvoltage: well its just a metapackage so it doesnt really matter too much if its installed or not | 15:44 |
fagan | other than upgrading from release to release that changes some apps around | 15:45 |
highvoltage | fagan: it does, because edubuntu-desktop depends on it | 15:45 |
highvoltage | fagan: and the alternative would be to maintain all of the pretty much in the edubuntu-desktop package, which would be kind of sucky in terms of maintenance | 15:46 |
fagan | highvoltage: or you could do the edubuntu package as a minimal set of apps that edubuntu depends on and reccomend ubuntu-desktop | 15:47 |
fagan | or kubuntu-desktop...etc | 15:47 |
highvoltage | fagan: that's how it works at the moment, except that ubuntu-desktop will install unity | 15:47 |
highvoltage | fagan: which we just want to make optional in the installer | 15:48 |
fagan | highvoltage: well its an option at login anyway for classic or unity | 15:48 |
highvoltage | fagan: yes, but that's not the same, and not good enough | 15:49 |
fagan | highvoltage: I dont think you get what i mean you could have the option for using which desktop environment in the installer and set that as the default for the login | 15:50 |
highvoltage | fagan: I realise we can do that, it would just be ideal to match what we have in Maverick | 15:52 |
highvoltage | fagan: and it's kind of pointless installing something that's bound to have updates that won't be used | 15:52 |
fagan | highvoltage: hmmmm well after they pick which one they want to use you could hold back the other one in the installer but id say that would take a little more hacking | 15:53 |
* JackyAlcine is up and about; and missed school. O.O | 16:16 | |
geser | mterry: Hi, can you review/sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~geser/ubuntu/natty/gssdp/gir1.2-transition/+merge/45601 and https://code.launchpad.net/~geser/ubuntu/natty/gupnp/gir1.2-transition/+merge/45602 when you've time? | 16:23 |
mterry | geser, looking | 16:26 |
mterry | geser, for gssdp, it would be better to file a sync request for 0.8.2-1 from Debian experimental I think. That way we don't have a delta | 16:29 |
mterry | geser, same for gupnp actually? | 16:32 |
mterry | brb | 16:32 |
geser | missed to check in experimental | 16:32 |
rodrigo_ | heh, all sprinters connect at the same time :-) | 16:42 |
geser | mterry: thanks for catching it, sync requests filed as bug #701095 and bug #701097 (awaiting sponsoring) | 16:49 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 701095 in gssdp (Ubuntu) "Sync gssdp 0.8.2-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701095 | 16:49 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 701097 in gupnp (Ubuntu) "Sync gupnp 0.14.1-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701097 | 16:49 |
mterry | geser, ok, will check those in a sec | 16:53 |
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mterry | geser, approved, thanks! | 17:00 |
rodrigo_ | can someone please review and upload this https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715 ? | 17:06 |
rodrigo_ | kenvandine, pitti, mterry: can you please review and upload https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715 and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715 ? | 18:04 |
mterry | rodrigo_, same url? | 18:04 |
rodrigo_ | oh, wait | 18:04 |
rodrigo_ | the other one is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop3/2_91_5_release/+merge/45727 | 18:04 |
mterry | rodrigo_, I can't do gsettings-desktop-schemas either | 18:05 |
rodrigo_ | oh, ok don't worry then | 18:05 |
rickspencer3 | kenvandine, is the gwibber database documented at all? | 18:22 |
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fagan | rickspencer3: is all of canonical on the sprint? | 18:30 |
* fagan is trying to get an update on something and everyone seems to have a conference/canonicalsprint cloak | 18:31 | |
fagan | oh and rickspencer3 awesome post on your blog | 18:33 |
Amaranth | eep, someone made clicking the close button close banshee | 18:34 |
Amaranth | or I changed a setting and forgot about it | 18:35 |
rickspencer3 | fagan, most of us are here, and thanks! | 18:35 |
Amaranth | oh, the sound menu plugin got disabled | 18:35 |
fagan | rickspencer3: oh ok that must be why | 18:36 |
fagan | ill try again next week | 18:36 |
Amaranth | hehe, you guys all get to be on my time now :) | 18:37 |
fagan | I wonder if this sprint has anything to do with CES | 18:39 |
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robert_ancell | mvo, do you have a magic tool to install all the ubuntu-desktop packages? | 21:06 |
pitti | mvo: (that is to say, all missing recommends) | 21:06 |
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dobey | apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop|grep Recommends|cut -d: -f2|sed -e 's#,##g'|xargs sudo apt-get install | 21:08 |
dobey | though it aborted for me | 21:08 |
mvo | robert_ancell: apt-get install --fix-policy | 21:09 |
robert_ancell | mvo, does that just install any recommends that are missing? | 21:09 |
mvo | robert_ancell: yes | 21:10 |
robert_ancell | mvo, ta | 21:10 |
Amaranth | mvo: wow, that's useful. I always just remove ubuntu-desktop and install it again :) | 21:15 |
mvo | Amaranth: yw, I should blog about it to make it more widely known | 21:18 |
Laney | sudo aptitude install "?reverse-recommends(ubuntu-desktop) ?not(?installed) | 21:20 |
Laney | " | 21:20 |
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chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.urlbar.default.behavior | 22:51 |
chrisccoulson | i'm guessing there are new values for the tab matching | 22:51 |
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chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/places/public/mozIPlacesAutoComplete.idl | 23:03 |
chrisccoulson | that's where the values for that preference is defined | 23:03 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, hello | 23:04 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, hello | 23:04 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, hello | 23:04 |
robert_ancell | seb128, hello | 23:05 |
seb128 | robert_ancell, bug #683142 | 23:05 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 683142 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "the launchers claiming for attention on an autohiden launcher should stay visible (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683142 | 23:05 |
seb128 | bug #683141 | 23:05 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 683141 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "the claim for attention animation should be longer (affects: 2) (heat: 94)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683141 | 23:05 |
TheMuso | seb128: Gary and Jason were telling me about a question you were asking, they thought it was something to do with dbus. Were you in fact enquiring about the version of at-spi that might be used? | 23:20 |
seb128 | TheMuso, yes, I was telling him that we need to decide on what version of at-spi we will using | 23:22 |
seb128 | TheMuso, quite some cruft just stay on the CD because of at-spi now | 23:22 |
seb128 | like libgnome2 or libbonoboui | 23:23 |
TheMuso | seb128: Right, I think at this point there will be no change, unless at-spi2 improves a lot. I am going to test it some more this week after the latest tarball updates, and I will have a better idea then. | 23:23 |
seb128 | :-( | 23:23 |
TheMuso | Yeah I agree. | 23:23 |
seb128 | TheMuso, what are the issue with the new at-spi? | 23:23 |
TheMuso | performace. | 23:23 |
TheMuso | performance even. | 23:24 |
Amaranth | TheMuso: because of dbus? | 23:24 |
seb128 | TheMuso, is anybody working on fixing those issues? is there any way to help the effort? | 23:24 |
TheMuso | Amaranth: Yes. A few work-arounds have been added recently, like opening direct sockets for some communication, but I am not sure how far along that is. I also believe some code refactoring has been done, particularly in relation to the python bindings now wrapping C code to do a lot of the heavy lifting. | 23:25 |
Amaranth | ah, I don't think the python dbus binding really has performance in mind | 23:26 |
TheMuso | Tey are being addressed as far as I know. I can certainly enquire as to where help can be given to move things along. | 23:26 |
Amaranth | It's more of a "look at how cool python is" binding :) | 23:26 |
TheMuso | Amaranth: Have you looked atht eocde... | 23:26 |
seb128 | TheMuso, that would be nice, thanks | 23:26 |
TheMuso | np will do. | 23:26 |
Amaranth | TheMuso: nope | 23:26 |
TheMuso | ah ok. | 23:27 |
seb128 | TheMuso, btw did you mean to update moustweak to the newest serie? | 23:27 |
TheMuso | Yes. Is there a problem? | 23:28 |
TheMuso | There are only translations. | 23:28 |
seb128 | TheMuso, we want to drop gtk3 from the CD | 23:28 |
seb128 | but the new version bring it in | 23:28 |
TheMuso | Oh right, I can look at pulling that out again. | 23:28 |
TheMuso | o/c | 23:39 |
TheMuso | seb128: Hrm ok this is going to be difficult... Mousetweaks only uses GTK3 now. I will have to role it back to the latest version that uses GTK 2. | 23:39 |
seb128 | TheMuso, right... | 23:40 |
seb128 | don't use an epoch though, just tweak the version | 23:40 |
TheMuso | Yep thats what I was thinking. | 23:40 |
seb128 | sorry about the trouble | 23:41 |
TheMuso | No problem. | 23:41 |
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