[02:55] o// === gekker_ is now known as gekker [05:31] * JackyAlcine is pushing a mailing list update to SpeechControl regarding openMary. [05:35] * JackyAlcine has sent a message to SpeechControl's developers. Please check your email. === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:39] Hello, I just tried alpha1, so with unity, apps that use notification area won't show up ? [08:54] AnAnt: indeed, they won't show up in the notification area [09:10] kklimonda: thanks [09:21] morning === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [09:36] morning === vish is now known as evilvish === cking is now known as cking-afk === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === zyga_ is now known as zyga-breakfast === pedro__ is now known as pedro_ === cking-afk is now known as cking [15:41] hi, any feedback on bug #683833? [15:41] Launchpad bug 683833 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Unity should be in recommends, not depends for ubuntu-desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683833 [15:41] highvoltage: I always thought the default interface was always in depends [15:42] (for ubuntu-desktop) [15:43] fagan: indeed, but that was when it just provided one interface [15:44] highvoltage: well its just a metapackage so it doesnt really matter too much if its installed or not [15:45] other than upgrading from release to release that changes some apps around [15:45] fagan: it does, because edubuntu-desktop depends on it [15:46] fagan: and the alternative would be to maintain all of the pretty much in the edubuntu-desktop package, which would be kind of sucky in terms of maintenance [15:47] highvoltage: or you could do the edubuntu package as a minimal set of apps that edubuntu depends on and reccomend ubuntu-desktop [15:47] or kubuntu-desktop...etc [15:47] fagan: that's how it works at the moment, except that ubuntu-desktop will install unity [15:48] fagan: which we just want to make optional in the installer [15:48] highvoltage: well its an option at login anyway for classic or unity [15:49] fagan: yes, but that's not the same, and not good enough [15:50] highvoltage: I dont think you get what i mean you could have the option for using which desktop environment in the installer and set that as the default for the login [15:52] fagan: I realise we can do that, it would just be ideal to match what we have in Maverick [15:52] fagan: and it's kind of pointless installing something that's bound to have updates that won't be used [15:53] highvoltage: hmmmm well after they pick which one they want to use you could hold back the other one in the installer but id say that would take a little more hacking [16:16] * JackyAlcine is up and about; and missed school. O.O [16:23] mterry: Hi, can you review/sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~geser/ubuntu/natty/gssdp/gir1.2-transition/+merge/45601 and https://code.launchpad.net/~geser/ubuntu/natty/gupnp/gir1.2-transition/+merge/45602 when you've time? [16:26] geser, looking [16:29] geser, for gssdp, it would be better to file a sync request for 0.8.2-1 from Debian experimental I think. That way we don't have a delta [16:32] geser, same for gupnp actually? [16:32] brb [16:32] missed to check in experimental [16:42] heh, all sprinters connect at the same time :-) [16:49] mterry: thanks for catching it, sync requests filed as bug #701095 and bug #701097 (awaiting sponsoring) [16:49] Launchpad bug 701095 in gssdp (Ubuntu) "Sync gssdp 0.8.2-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701095 [16:49] Launchpad bug 701097 in gupnp (Ubuntu) "Sync gupnp 0.14.1-1 (main) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701097 [16:53] geser, ok, will check those in a sec === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [17:00] geser, approved, thanks! [17:06] can someone please review and upload this https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715 ? [18:04] kenvandine, pitti, mterry: can you please review and upload https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715 and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715 ? [18:04] rodrigo_, same url? [18:04] oh, wait [18:04] the other one is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop3/2_91_5_release/+merge/45727 [18:05] rodrigo_, I can't do gsettings-desktop-schemas either [18:05] oh, ok don't worry then [18:22] kenvandine, is the gwibber database documented at all? === KenEdwards is now known as KenEdwards-lunch [18:30] rickspencer3: is all of canonical on the sprint? [18:31] * fagan is trying to get an update on something and everyone seems to have a conference/canonicalsprint cloak [18:33] oh and rickspencer3 awesome post on your blog [18:34] eep, someone made clicking the close button close banshee [18:35] or I changed a setting and forgot about it [18:35] fagan, most of us are here, and thanks! [18:35] oh, the sound menu plugin got disabled [18:36] rickspencer3: oh ok that must be why [18:36] ill try again next week [18:37] hehe, you guys all get to be on my time now :) [18:39] I wonder if this sprint has anything to do with CES === DrPepperKid is now known as MacSlow|lunch === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [21:06] mvo, do you have a magic tool to install all the ubuntu-desktop packages? [21:06] mvo: (that is to say, all missing recommends) === KenEdwards-lunch is now known as KenEdwards [21:08] apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop|grep Recommends|cut -d: -f2|sed -e 's#,##g'|xargs sudo apt-get install [21:08] though it aborted for me [21:09] robert_ancell: apt-get install --fix-policy [21:09] mvo, does that just install any recommends that are missing? [21:10] robert_ancell: yes [21:10] mvo, ta [21:15] mvo: wow, that's useful. I always just remove ubuntu-desktop and install it again :) [21:18] Amaranth: yw, I should blog about it to make it more widely known [21:20] sudo aptitude install "?reverse-recommends(ubuntu-desktop) ?not(?installed) [21:20] " === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [22:51] robert_ancell, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.urlbar.default.behavior [22:51] i'm guessing there are new values for the tab matching === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [23:03] robert_ancell, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/places/public/mozIPlacesAutoComplete.idl [23:03] that's where the values for that preference is defined [23:04] robert_ancell, hello [23:04] robert_ancell, hello [23:04] robert_ancell, hello [23:05] seb128, hello [23:05] robert_ancell, bug #683142 [23:05] Launchpad bug 683142 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "the launchers claiming for attention on an autohiden launcher should stay visible (affects: 1) (heat: 96)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683142 [23:05] bug #683141 [23:05] Launchpad bug 683141 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "the claim for attention animation should be longer (affects: 2) (heat: 94)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683141 [23:20] seb128: Gary and Jason were telling me about a question you were asking, they thought it was something to do with dbus. Were you in fact enquiring about the version of at-spi that might be used? [23:22] TheMuso, yes, I was telling him that we need to decide on what version of at-spi we will using [23:22] TheMuso, quite some cruft just stay on the CD because of at-spi now [23:23] like libgnome2 or libbonoboui [23:23] seb128: Right, I think at this point there will be no change, unless at-spi2 improves a lot. I am going to test it some more this week after the latest tarball updates, and I will have a better idea then. [23:23] :-( [23:23] Yeah I agree. [23:23] TheMuso, what are the issue with the new at-spi? [23:23] performace. [23:24] performance even. [23:24] TheMuso: because of dbus? [23:24] TheMuso, is anybody working on fixing those issues? is there any way to help the effort? [23:25] Amaranth: Yes. A few work-arounds have been added recently, like opening direct sockets for some communication, but I am not sure how far along that is. I also believe some code refactoring has been done, particularly in relation to the python bindings now wrapping C code to do a lot of the heavy lifting. [23:26] ah, I don't think the python dbus binding really has performance in mind [23:26] Tey are being addressed as far as I know. I can certainly enquire as to where help can be given to move things along. [23:26] It's more of a "look at how cool python is" binding :) [23:26] Amaranth: Have you looked atht eocde... [23:26] TheMuso, that would be nice, thanks [23:26] np will do. [23:26] TheMuso: nope [23:27] ah ok. [23:27] TheMuso, btw did you mean to update moustweak to the newest serie? [23:28] Yes. Is there a problem? [23:28] There are only translations. [23:28] TheMuso, we want to drop gtk3 from the CD [23:28] but the new version bring it in [23:28] Oh right, I can look at pulling that out again. [23:39] o/c [23:39] seb128: Hrm ok this is going to be difficult... Mousetweaks only uses GTK3 now. I will have to role it back to the latest version that uses GTK 2. [23:40] TheMuso, right... [23:40] don't use an epoch though, just tweak the version [23:40] Yep thats what I was thinking. [23:41] sorry about the trouble [23:41] No problem.