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hallynhas anyone already complained about latest natty kernel upgrade with respect to broadcom wireless and nvidia?16:36
smbhallyn, Sort of Henrik was running into it (at least broadcom) when he was around Andy16:42
smbhallyn, So nvidia has the same wrapper problem?16:43
hallynsmb: don't know if it's the same.  on first login it told me i couldn't run unity, but then i coudl run it by hand, and on another attempt to instal lkernel, I got:16:44
hallynrun-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.37-12-generic /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-12-generic16:44
hallyn/etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common: line 8: [: too many arguments16:45
hallynsound like nvidia-detector is bogus i guess16:45
smbyeah that at least for a starter sounds like something not correctly catched in the script16:45
hallynoh, haha - i have intel graphics.  weird16:46
elm_how to do a make install for all kernel modules?16:46
smbhallyn, So at least that would not be your problem with unity then. )16:47
smb:)16:47
hallynsmb: at any rate, i'm having to tether right now...  should i file a bug, or is Henrik on top of it?16:47
smbFor the broadcom problem afaik he had a patch ready and just needed to bring it on16:47
hallynwell lemme reboot one more time :)16:47
hallynoh, cool16:47
hallynthanks16:48
elm_make install does not install my radeon kernel modulewhat can I do?16:52
towolfhello. here's something i don’t understand concerning wireless regulatory domains. my regdomain is as such: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552544 but i’m still getting this least common denominator world domain: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55252618:55
towolfis this an ubuntu specific thing? on my openwrt i get the officially approved channel configuration.18:56
teamnoirI'm getting: "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" when I try to git a copy of the kernel.  Is the git server messed up?  Or am I doing something wrong?18:57
ohsixtowolf: what wifi hw?18:58
towolfiwlagn 5000 series18:58
towolfon natty18:58
ohsixah hm, dunno; does it have an eeprom that sets the region? cuz those can get in the way18:59
towolfcould it be that the crypto verification of the regdb doesn’t work at all? this is just a hunch though.18:59
towolfohsix, shouldn’t be. and if at all it should be overridden.19:00
ohsixif you can see it in iw get it's already been applied i think, you can check in dmesg for crda's/the kernels message that it loaded the regulatory info19:00
towolfyes, it did apply it, but that isnßt reflected in the channel list.19:00
ohsixread the regulatory compliance stuff on the kernel.org wireless section; generally the regdb complements the eeprom and the compliance19:01
towolfohsix, on my openwrt the eeprom says US, but then openwrt overrides that and sets DE.19:01
ohsixthey have hacked up stuff :] and i dunno if they even use crda19:02
towolfyes, they do. and there i can even use /sbin/crda, on natty it fails with -22, which i’ve read is due to failed signature verification.19:03
ohsixhrmph, that sucks19:05
ohsixi wish they'd use openssl instead of gcrypt in the ubuntu package, so you can just drop in your own signing certificate instead of having to rebuild it19:07
towolfohsix, how would i do that? and by the way, the regulatory.bin has identical SHA1 on kernel.org, on natty, and in openwrt. somethign else is going awry19:08
towolfessentially "iw reg set" has no effect, but it doesn’t fail, and that puzzles me.19:13
ohsixtry iw reg set US and look in dmesg; it should show it changing the regdomain19:13
towolfyes. it shows it. but then "iw phy0 list": no change at all. still world regdomain.19:19
ohsixthat might be an eeprom thing, crda doesn't change what the card does; it just applies channel policies on top of it19:19
towolfcan i query eeprom to see what’s in there?19:19
ohsixi don't have an iwlwifi device in front of me, but there's usually a tool to poke at the eeprom parameters19:19
towolfooh. you might be right and this is iwlwifi specific. just cross-checked with b43 driver.19:19
towolfand that works.19:19
\shguys, is there an easy way (which could be done e.g. via break=premount into initramfs) to debug a kernel network module, and why so ever it take ages to initialize?20:25
lamontapw: any estimate on when bug 693401 will hit hardy-updates?21:04
ubot2Launchpad bug 693401 in linux (Ubuntu Hardy) (and 1 other project) "hardy kernel lacks support for ICH10 controller in Intel Server System SR1600UR (affects: 1) (heat: 238)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69340121:04
bjflamont, am looking into it21:07
lamontta21:07
bjflamont, it looks like it has been applied to the tree and we are at the beginning of an SRU cycle, it "should" hit -updates in 2 weeks21:14
lamontawesome21:17
lamontthat's the blocker for 2 reasonably phat ppa builders21:17
virtualdfor someone in my loco channel (she /quit), with the latest maverick kernel she said, the kernel didn't recognize her phone when plugged in with a usb cable, and there was no mention of usb dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/552589/). when she tried with the previous kernel it worked.21:41
virtualdanyone know how that could be?21:51
Q-FUNKwrt bug #396286 exactly what is the point of not attempting to backport ext3/ext4 fixes to Lucid?22:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 396286 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Geode LX] [ION603] kernels >= 2.6.31 fail to boot [initramfs] (affects: 2) (heat: 15)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39628622:06
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keessmb: should linux-ec2 in -proposed be promoted to -updates yet?22:34
smbkees, I think I did test that ok. So I would promote it22:36
keessmb: okay, thanks22:37
virtualddid you guys see my question? what should i ask for the next time she comes online, more than ubuntu-bug linux? i don't think she's the bisecting type… unless the problem persists22:47
JFovirtuald, what bug are you referring to?22:57
virtualdjfo: no bug#22:58
JFothen I am not sure to what you are referring22:58
virtuald22:41 < virtuald> for someone in my loco channel (she /quit), with the latest maverick kernel she said, the kernel didn't recognize her phone when plugged in with a  usb cable, and there was no mention of usb dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/552589/). when she tried with the previous kernel it worked.22:58
virtuald22:51 < virtuald> anyone know how that could be?22:58
JFovirtuald, not without a bug and the relevant logging (as supplied by 'ubuntu-bug linux))22:59
JFosorry, that first end-parens should have been a '22:59
virtualdok22:59
JFovirtuald, that way we can see what information there is from her attempt to connect the phone23:00
JFoit is possible there is some error23:00
* virtuald googles if there's some command line option to turn on usb debugging23:00
JFoalso, if her phone charges from the usb cable, I would be interested to see if it does that when plugged in23:00
JFovirtuald, it would be helpful as well if she did a lsusb from the command line and attached that data23:01
virtuald8]23:01
JFothat lsusb should be done when the phone is attached23:02
JFopreferably23:02
* hallyn hopes that the upload to fix broadcom chips will be hitting natty archive soon...23:04
JFohallyn, me too :-/23:06
JFohallyn, I am told you should hassle tseliot to make sure it is happening :)23:09
* hallyn wonders where to find tseliot :)23:10
hallynJFo: do you have a workaround?23:14
ograJFo, why do you unassign people from bugs if you mark them fix released ? that steals their LP karma ...23:17
JFothen LP karma is broken, becasue I remove them after I set it Fix Released23:23
JFohallyn, I don't23:23
ograJFo, but why do you remove them at all ?23:23
JFobecause once a bug is 'closed' there shouldn't be an assignee as far as I have been told23:24
ograwell, its one thing that can turn people down ... its credit thats gone then 23:25
JFoif you are a developer that really cares about karma......23:26
ograif its fix released why would it matter if there is an asignee23:26
ogramany newcomers in the community do care about karma23:26
JFobut they are not likely to be the ones fixing any of the kernels bugs23:26
ograwhy ? 23:27
JFoseriously?23:27
JFowere I to be a developer working on kernel bugs, I can't honestly say that karma would be the reason I would work bugs for Ubuntu.23:28
ograwhy wouldnt a teenie who wants to be a developer not file and fix a kernel bug he finds a patch for in some other distro for example23:28
ograkarma is a thing to encourage people to contribute23:28
ograyou and i might not care about it much ... community people do23:29
JFoI guess I just don't see a Ubuntu Kernel Dev, Ted T'so or some Upstream level developer being all excited because his karma went up a few points.23:39
JFoI supppose I am hindered by the high level of ability needed23:39
JFoin order to solve the vast majority of these23:40
JFoI could be wrong, and to be honest, I have almost no energy around the issue23:40
JFoI'm just perplexed that it is, in fact, an issue23:40
JFoI don't mean to imply that karma is useless, far from it23:41
ograi'm not talking about a ted t'so :)23:41
JFoin other packages I am sure there is a bit of energy around it23:42
JFoI just never have seen some teenager fixing kernel bugs.23:42
ograi'm talking about the teenage guy who does one of his first contributions and is excited23:42
JFoI seriously doubt they are contributing in the kernel here rather than on the main kernel 23:42
JFobut like I said, maybe I am wrong23:43
ograwell, apparently the kernel team has its own bug policies (emmet just told me) so do as you like, i just noticed it and found it weird23:43
ograthe bug control team has no policy to unassign closed bug23:43
ogras23:43
JFoyeah, I work waaaaay outside of that23:44
JFowell, time for a beer23:44

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