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hallyn | has anyone already complained about latest natty kernel upgrade with respect to broadcom wireless and nvidia? | 16:36 |
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smb | hallyn, Sort of Henrik was running into it (at least broadcom) when he was around Andy | 16:42 |
smb | hallyn, So nvidia has the same wrapper problem? | 16:43 |
hallyn | smb: don't know if it's the same. on first login it told me i couldn't run unity, but then i coudl run it by hand, and on another attempt to instal lkernel, I got: | 16:44 |
hallyn | run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.37-12-generic /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-12-generic | 16:44 |
hallyn | /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common: line 8: [: too many arguments | 16:45 |
hallyn | sound like nvidia-detector is bogus i guess | 16:45 |
smb | yeah that at least for a starter sounds like something not correctly catched in the script | 16:45 |
hallyn | oh, haha - i have intel graphics. weird | 16:46 |
elm_ | how to do a make install for all kernel modules? | 16:46 |
smb | hallyn, So at least that would not be your problem with unity then. ) | 16:47 |
smb | :) | 16:47 |
hallyn | smb: at any rate, i'm having to tether right now... should i file a bug, or is Henrik on top of it? | 16:47 |
smb | For the broadcom problem afaik he had a patch ready and just needed to bring it on | 16:47 |
hallyn | well lemme reboot one more time :) | 16:47 |
hallyn | oh, cool | 16:47 |
hallyn | thanks | 16:48 |
elm_ | make install does not install my radeon kernel modulewhat can I do? | 16:52 |
towolf | hello. here's something i don’t understand concerning wireless regulatory domains. my regdomain is as such: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552544 but i’m still getting this least common denominator world domain: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552526 | 18:55 |
towolf | is this an ubuntu specific thing? on my openwrt i get the officially approved channel configuration. | 18:56 |
teamnoir | I'm getting: "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" when I try to git a copy of the kernel. Is the git server messed up? Or am I doing something wrong? | 18:57 |
ohsix | towolf: what wifi hw? | 18:58 |
towolf | iwlagn 5000 series | 18:58 |
towolf | on natty | 18:58 |
ohsix | ah hm, dunno; does it have an eeprom that sets the region? cuz those can get in the way | 18:59 |
towolf | could it be that the crypto verification of the regdb doesn’t work at all? this is just a hunch though. | 18:59 |
towolf | ohsix, shouldn’t be. and if at all it should be overridden. | 19:00 |
ohsix | if you can see it in iw get it's already been applied i think, you can check in dmesg for crda's/the kernels message that it loaded the regulatory info | 19:00 |
towolf | yes, it did apply it, but that isnßt reflected in the channel list. | 19:00 |
ohsix | read the regulatory compliance stuff on the kernel.org wireless section; generally the regdb complements the eeprom and the compliance | 19:01 |
towolf | ohsix, on my openwrt the eeprom says US, but then openwrt overrides that and sets DE. | 19:01 |
ohsix | they have hacked up stuff :] and i dunno if they even use crda | 19:02 |
towolf | yes, they do. and there i can even use /sbin/crda, on natty it fails with -22, which i’ve read is due to failed signature verification. | 19:03 |
ohsix | hrmph, that sucks | 19:05 |
ohsix | i wish they'd use openssl instead of gcrypt in the ubuntu package, so you can just drop in your own signing certificate instead of having to rebuild it | 19:07 |
towolf | ohsix, how would i do that? and by the way, the regulatory.bin has identical SHA1 on kernel.org, on natty, and in openwrt. somethign else is going awry | 19:08 |
towolf | essentially "iw reg set" has no effect, but it doesn’t fail, and that puzzles me. | 19:13 |
ohsix | try iw reg set US and look in dmesg; it should show it changing the regdomain | 19:13 |
towolf | yes. it shows it. but then "iw phy0 list": no change at all. still world regdomain. | 19:19 |
ohsix | that might be an eeprom thing, crda doesn't change what the card does; it just applies channel policies on top of it | 19:19 |
towolf | can i query eeprom to see what’s in there? | 19:19 |
ohsix | i don't have an iwlwifi device in front of me, but there's usually a tool to poke at the eeprom parameters | 19:19 |
towolf | ooh. you might be right and this is iwlwifi specific. just cross-checked with b43 driver. | 19:19 |
towolf | and that works. | 19:19 |
\sh | guys, is there an easy way (which could be done e.g. via break=premount into initramfs) to debug a kernel network module, and why so ever it take ages to initialize? | 20:25 |
lamont | apw: any estimate on when bug 693401 will hit hardy-updates? | 21:04 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 693401 in linux (Ubuntu Hardy) (and 1 other project) "hardy kernel lacks support for ICH10 controller in Intel Server System SR1600UR (affects: 1) (heat: 238)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693401 | 21:04 |
bjf | lamont, am looking into it | 21:07 |
lamont | ta | 21:07 |
bjf | lamont, it looks like it has been applied to the tree and we are at the beginning of an SRU cycle, it "should" hit -updates in 2 weeks | 21:14 |
lamont | awesome | 21:17 |
lamont | that's the blocker for 2 reasonably phat ppa builders | 21:17 |
virtuald | for someone in my loco channel (she /quit), with the latest maverick kernel she said, the kernel didn't recognize her phone when plugged in with a usb cable, and there was no mention of usb dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/552589/). when she tried with the previous kernel it worked. | 21:41 |
virtuald | anyone know how that could be? | 21:51 |
Q-FUNK | wrt bug #396286 exactly what is the point of not attempting to backport ext3/ext4 fixes to Lucid? | 22:06 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 396286 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Geode LX] [ION603] kernels >= 2.6.31 fail to boot [initramfs] (affects: 2) (heat: 15)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396286 | 22:06 |
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kees | smb: should linux-ec2 in -proposed be promoted to -updates yet? | 22:34 |
smb | kees, I think I did test that ok. So I would promote it | 22:36 |
kees | smb: okay, thanks | 22:37 |
virtuald | did you guys see my question? what should i ask for the next time she comes online, more than ubuntu-bug linux? i don't think she's the bisecting type… unless the problem persists | 22:47 |
JFo | virtuald, what bug are you referring to? | 22:57 |
virtuald | jfo: no bug# | 22:58 |
JFo | then I am not sure to what you are referring | 22:58 |
virtuald | 22:41 < virtuald> for someone in my loco channel (she /quit), with the latest maverick kernel she said, the kernel didn't recognize her phone when plugged in with a usb cable, and there was no mention of usb dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/552589/). when she tried with the previous kernel it worked. | 22:58 |
virtuald | 22:51 < virtuald> anyone know how that could be? | 22:58 |
JFo | virtuald, not without a bug and the relevant logging (as supplied by 'ubuntu-bug linux)) | 22:59 |
JFo | sorry, that first end-parens should have been a ' | 22:59 |
virtuald | ok | 22:59 |
JFo | virtuald, that way we can see what information there is from her attempt to connect the phone | 23:00 |
JFo | it is possible there is some error | 23:00 |
* virtuald googles if there's some command line option to turn on usb debugging | 23:00 | |
JFo | also, if her phone charges from the usb cable, I would be interested to see if it does that when plugged in | 23:00 |
JFo | virtuald, it would be helpful as well if she did a lsusb from the command line and attached that data | 23:01 |
virtuald | 8] | 23:01 |
JFo | that lsusb should be done when the phone is attached | 23:02 |
JFo | preferably | 23:02 |
* hallyn hopes that the upload to fix broadcom chips will be hitting natty archive soon... | 23:04 | |
JFo | hallyn, me too :-/ | 23:06 |
JFo | hallyn, I am told you should hassle tseliot to make sure it is happening :) | 23:09 |
* hallyn wonders where to find tseliot :) | 23:10 | |
hallyn | JFo: do you have a workaround? | 23:14 |
ogra | JFo, why do you unassign people from bugs if you mark them fix released ? that steals their LP karma ... | 23:17 |
JFo | then LP karma is broken, becasue I remove them after I set it Fix Released | 23:23 |
JFo | hallyn, I don't | 23:23 |
ogra | JFo, but why do you remove them at all ? | 23:23 |
JFo | because once a bug is 'closed' there shouldn't be an assignee as far as I have been told | 23:24 |
ogra | well, its one thing that can turn people down ... its credit thats gone then | 23:25 |
JFo | if you are a developer that really cares about karma...... | 23:26 |
ogra | if its fix released why would it matter if there is an asignee | 23:26 |
ogra | many newcomers in the community do care about karma | 23:26 |
JFo | but they are not likely to be the ones fixing any of the kernels bugs | 23:26 |
ogra | why ? | 23:27 |
JFo | seriously? | 23:27 |
JFo | were I to be a developer working on kernel bugs, I can't honestly say that karma would be the reason I would work bugs for Ubuntu. | 23:28 |
ogra | why wouldnt a teenie who wants to be a developer not file and fix a kernel bug he finds a patch for in some other distro for example | 23:28 |
ogra | karma is a thing to encourage people to contribute | 23:28 |
ogra | you and i might not care about it much ... community people do | 23:29 |
JFo | I guess I just don't see a Ubuntu Kernel Dev, Ted T'so or some Upstream level developer being all excited because his karma went up a few points. | 23:39 |
JFo | I supppose I am hindered by the high level of ability needed | 23:39 |
JFo | in order to solve the vast majority of these | 23:40 |
JFo | I could be wrong, and to be honest, I have almost no energy around the issue | 23:40 |
JFo | I'm just perplexed that it is, in fact, an issue | 23:40 |
JFo | I don't mean to imply that karma is useless, far from it | 23:41 |
ogra | i'm not talking about a ted t'so :) | 23:41 |
JFo | in other packages I am sure there is a bit of energy around it | 23:42 |
JFo | I just never have seen some teenager fixing kernel bugs. | 23:42 |
ogra | i'm talking about the teenage guy who does one of his first contributions and is excited | 23:42 |
JFo | I seriously doubt they are contributing in the kernel here rather than on the main kernel | 23:42 |
JFo | but like I said, maybe I am wrong | 23:43 |
ogra | well, apparently the kernel team has its own bug policies (emmet just told me) so do as you like, i just noticed it and found it weird | 23:43 |
ogra | the bug control team has no policy to unassign closed bug | 23:43 |
ogra | s | 23:43 |
JFo | yeah, I work waaaaay outside of that | 23:44 |
JFo | well, time for a beer | 23:44 |
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