| * Quex01 np: Johnny Rebel jr. - Ship those Niggers back [02:00] | 06:11 | |
| Quex01 | BATH IN NIGGER'S BLOOD | 06:11 |
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| JontheEchidna | !ops | 06:11 |
| ubottu | Help! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpds! | 06:11 |
| Quex01 | AFRICA IS FOR APES, EUROPE IS FOR WHITE! | 06:12 |
| Quex01 | GARBAGE JUICE! SALMANELLY! | 06:13 |
| * Quex01 np: Public Enemy - Anti-Nigger Machine [03:17] | 06:13 | |
| Quex01 | hinnger i hate your face | 06:14 |
| Quex01 | NIGGERS ARE LIKE SALMANELLI !!! GARBAGE JOUCE! | 06:14 |
| * Quex01 np: JEWTHANASIA (DEN) - 13. White Pride – JEWTHANASIA (DEN) [02:48] | 06:15 | |
| * Quex01 np: German Military Marches - Eger [02:40] | 06:18 | |
| nigelb | thanks elky ;) | 06:21 |
| MTecknology | So... A package went from nginx to nginx-light, nginx-full, and nginx-extras; the three new packages replace each other; nginx became a dummy package to select nginx-full; I'm having some troubles though. Any help with getting it to work right? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609254 | 07:54 |
| MTecknology | I know it's a debian question- but they seem to all be sleeping over there | 07:54 |
| MTecknology | the best I can come up with is adding to nginx-* s/Conflicts/Replaces:/ and to nginx Replaces: nginx (<< 0.8.54-1) Breaks: nginx (<< 0.8.54-1) | 07:56 |
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| \sh | happy new year :) | 08:54 |
| \sh | siretart: can you approve me for ubuntu fai team again? I'm expired ;) | 08:54 |
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| \sh | siretart: merci :) | 11:15 |
| udienz | Hi, what happen with LP? LP send me a lot of bug emails that linked to debian bug | 11:55 |
| udienz | a lot of status changes | 11:55 |
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| shadeslayer | i have a main package that needs sponsoring ... | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | currently building here : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+builds?build_state=building | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | oh crap ... forgot something | 14:04 |
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| lfaraone | tumbleweed: T&S sent. this is the longest section, so feel free to send me part of it if you can't do it all in one sitting :) | 14:51 |
| * Laney accidently destroyed ~90% complete T&S replies | 14:51 | |
| Laney | twice | 14:51 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 14:52 |
| tumbleweed | lfaraone: thanks | 14:52 |
| Laney | Isn't NM fun! | 14:52 |
| lfaraone | Laney: barrels. at least he's got a responsove AM. | 14:52 |
| lfaraone | ;) | 14:52 |
| Laney | I've actually done T&S (yesterday), but he doesn't seem to have updated the website | 14:53 |
| * tumbleweed gets a cup of coffe and sits down to it (not like I was going to get any more work done today, anyway) | 14:53 | |
| lfaraone | tumbleweed: what's your day job, anyway? | 14:55 |
| dholbach | good morning | 14:55 |
| lfaraone | away | 14:55 |
| tumbleweed | dholbach: hi. I see you don't own the ubuntu-sponsoring branch any more. Can we just land merges in it, or do you need to bzr pull on the other side? Also, can it be upgraded to 2.0? | 14:55 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, pull on the other side, but that could be automated, I guess | 14:55 |
| tumbleweed | lfaraone: student (who really needs to work on my thesis more...) | 14:55 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, still I think we should be still using merge proposals | 14:55 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, hum... upgraded - let me see | 14:56 |
| geser | dholbach: good afternoon :) | 14:56 |
| dholbach | hi geser | 14:56 |
| dholbach | geser, in Dallas this week :) | 14:56 |
| tumbleweed | dholbach: great, as long as you are still reviewing & landing merges on it, that's really what matters. | 14:56 |
| geser | figured it out by now, wondered why IRC is so quiet today | 14:57 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, I think if somebody in ~ubuntu-dev reviews and merges it, that's totally cool with me - that's why I moved the branch | 14:57 |
| tumbleweed | ok, but until there's automatition, you'd probably be involved | 14:57 |
| ari-tczew | hello all | 14:58 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, I'll try to have a look at the open merge proposal later on, but it'll be a busy day | 14:58 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, branch should be updated now | 15:01 |
| lfaraone | tumbleweed: heh. I myself have midterms this week :P | 15:05 |
| coolbhavi | hello ari-tczew | 15:07 |
| coolbhavi | dholbach, hello | 15:08 |
| dholbach | hi coolbhavi | 15:08 |
| ari-tczew | hi | 15:08 |
| tumbleweed | dholbach: thanks, no rush | 15:20 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed, bdrung is on it | 15:21 |
| tumbleweed | indeed | 15:21 |
| bdrung | dholbach: merged. you can pull it. | 15:26 |
| dholbach | done | 15:26 |
| bdrung | thanks | 15:27 |
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| al-maisan | hello there, if I want to start a python using dh_make should I specify "single binary" or "indep binary"? | 18:02 |
| al-maisan | s/python/python package/ | 18:03 |
| tumbleweed | al-maisan: indep for pure Python, single binary for python extensions (C, C++, pyx, etc.) | 18:04 |
| al-maisan | thanks tumbleweed ! | 18:04 |
| directhex | ttx, i like the sound of your fosdem talk. which day is that on? | 18:31 |
| al-maisan | I am trying to package a python extension with a cpp file that needs to be compiled; when I build the new package in pbuilder I get the following error: | 18:48 |
| al-maisan | dev | 18:48 |
| al-maisan | sorry: | 18:49 |
| al-maisan | src/geohash.cpp:72: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory | 18:49 |
| al-maisan | I guess I need to require python-dev | 18:49 |
| geser | yes, perhaps even python-all-dev if you want to compile for all supported python versions | 18:50 |
| al-maisan | geser: thanks, will try that. | 18:51 |
| al-maisan | geser: that would be a "Build-Depends:" entry. Right? | 18:51 |
| geser | yes | 18:51 |
| al-maisan | great, thanks! | 18:52 |
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| ttx | directhex: saturday, 3:30pm I think | 19:25 |
| ttx | directhex: http://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam/2011/Fosdem/TalkSchedule | 19:26 |
| ttx | It's actually a trilogy. | 19:26 |
| directhex | oh dear, i hope it doesn't clash | 19:28 |
| directhex | i've got my talk "Mono packaging in Debian and Ubuntu - why we're always right" on saturday | 19:29 |
| directhex | you might enjoy it | 19:29 |
| ttx | haha | 19:29 |
| iulian | directhex: Good one. :-) | 19:29 |
| * iulian cannot go to fosdem unfortunately. :( | 19:30 | |
| kklimonda | now that's irritating - I can't create a pbuilder maverick chroot under natty | 20:09 |
| kklimonda | my pbuilderrc: http://pastebin.com/H43MKA2B | 20:09 |
| kklimonda | I run sudo DIST=maverick pbuilder --create | 20:09 |
| tumbleweed | kklimonda: sudo -E DIST=maverick pbuilder --create :) | 20:10 |
| kklimonda | let see if pbuilder-dist works better | 20:10 |
| kklimonda | tumbleweed: no, I use sudo without -E for a reason | 20:10 |
| kklimonda | it should work - it did in the past | 20:10 |
| kklimonda | (I've had CC=clang for some time, and it did propagate to pbuilder chroot breaking builds ;) ) | 20:11 |
| tumbleweed | kklimonda: sudo's configuration file changed in natty to include env_reset, which means sudo pbuilder will use HOME=/root | 20:11 |
| kklimonda | tumbleweed: oh.. | 20:11 |
| kklimonda | (no wonder my hooks didn't work) | 20:12 |
| * kklimonda feels tired | 20:12 | |
| tumbleweed | heh | 20:12 |
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| ari-tczew | geser: could you rerun FTBFS script? a lot of packages are deprecated | 20:42 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: Last update 2011-01-10 20:14:22 +0000 | 20:44 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: so there is another problem | 20:44 |
| geser | ari-tczew: which one? and I don't have access to the machine where the scripts run | 20:44 |
| ari-tczew | geser, micahg: nevermind, my bad | 20:46 |
| ari-tczew | geser: another question: is it possible to rebuild all packages in universe which are on FTBFS page? buildlogs are deprecated | 20:56 |
| ari-tczew | mass give back IIRC | 20:57 |
| geser | ari-tczew: what you mean with "deprecated"? just old? | 20:59 |
| geser | do you have a reason why you think they'll build now? | 20:59 |
| ari-tczew | geser: I mean that now there is new FTBFS message | 20:59 |
| geser | new FTBFS message? I seem to lack some context | 21:00 |
| ari-tczew | geser: well, e.g. builder on LP has got buildlog from 01.11.2010 and it shows that there is problem with DSO linking. now if I build this package, I see another FTBFS message | 21:01 |
| ari-tczew | I guess it's not hard to gotcha | 21:02 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: lucas just did a rebuild a couple of days ago. Not recent enough? | 21:02 |
| geser | ah | 21:02 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: we discuss about FTBFS geser's script | 21:04 |
| geser | ari-tczew: only buildd admins can do mass-give backs as far as I know | 21:05 |
| geser | you can only click on the retry buttons of every package (or use the ubuntu-build script) | 21:05 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: just look at lucas's rebuild result if you want to know what's more current | 21:06 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: you don't understand. I mean that if someone looks on FTBFS geser's script, buildlogs show deprecated output. | 21:07 |
| ari-tczew | it's not good. | 21:07 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: doing a mass give back just to get new buildlogs seems a bit crazy. If they aren't going to build, why rebuild them. The same issues are presumably present. | 21:07 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: you are misusing the word "deprecated" | 21:07 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: that's standard fare for that page though | 21:07 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: the reason is working on correct FTBFS issue | 21:07 |
| ari-tczew | now I have to build locally current existing package in archive | 21:08 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I don't know about you, but I test build locally before I start working on an FTBFS | 21:08 |
| ari-tczew | before any patching | 21:08 |
| ari-tczew | no sense | 21:08 |
| ari-tczew | it's not efficient | 21:08 |
| tumbleweed | mass giving back just for fresh build logs isn't efficient either | 21:09 |
| micahg | sure, there is, it might have been fixed, also sometimes it's easier to fix when you can see what's happening where it fails | 21:09 |
| tumbleweed | (plus, you can play around in pbuilder, if you have a shell hookscript, and try a few fixes) | 21:09 |
| geser | the FTBFS page only displays the current state of the archive, if the last build-attempt is from Nov 2010 than the page displays it, it can't do retries on it's on now and then to keep the logs "current" | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | ok you like wasting a time on pbuilder before patching, I don't want still discuss in no sense | 21:10 |
| geser | you prefer to waste the buildd time? | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | it's machine | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | I'm human | 21:10 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: yes, but those resources are shared by everyone | 21:12 |
| ari-tczew | I only see that contributors are for machines, not machines for us to make work easier | 21:12 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: plus, as I said earlier, there are newer build logs available (lucas' rebuild) | 21:12 |
| lucas | I agree with ari-tczew. contributor time is infinitely more valuable than cpu time | 21:13 |
| micahg | is there room in the /topic for the new rebuild results? | 21:13 |
| geser | ari-tczew: talk to the buildd admins if you want regulary mass-givebacks, they are in a better position to implement it (if they think that's a good idea) | 21:13 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: so this way I have to spend more minutes on looking also on lucas page udd | 21:13 |
| ari-tczew | geser: who is admin of buildd? | 21:15 |
| ari-tczew | where can I find them admins? | 21:15 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I don't think it would take you *that* long. Personally I have no issue with stale logs, and I tend to test that a package can be built locally before giving it back. | 21:15 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: look from another hand | 21:16 |
| ari-tczew | ok, you will notice that there is new FTBFS message | 21:16 |
| ari-tczew | this information will stay only on your mind | 21:16 |
| geser | ari-tczew: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-buildd-admins | 21:17 |
| ari-tczew | another day, another contributor will have a look on geser's FTBFS page | 21:17 |
| tumbleweed | I seem to remember someone suggesting not sending FTBFS messages to uploaders from failed give-backs, but rather to the requster - that'd help | 21:17 |
| ari-tczew | and he will be confused, because there is another FTBFS message! | 21:17 |
| ari-tczew | what's going? - he thinks | 21:17 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: as I said, that's standard fare for any buildd log failure | 21:17 |
| ScottK | tumbleweed: That was me. Someone should file a bug on LP about it. | 21:18 |
| micahg | they should be taken with a grain of salt since new uploads could've changed the failure | 21:18 |
| ari-tczew | micahg: I don't understand your words. | 21:19 |
| ari-tczew | what's your point, quo vadis.. | 21:19 |
| micahg | ari-tczew: you'd have to constantly rebuild to have up to date logs | 21:19 |
| ari-tczew | because they should be updated | 21:20 |
| ari-tczew | flow of information | 21:20 |
| ari-tczew | masacre, developers couldn't understand this thing | 21:20 |
| * Rhonda suspects that ari-tczew is discussing now way longer (and using the resources of the others involved in the discussion) than the test build would had taken. | 21:21 | |
| ari-tczew | Rhonda: this is not a case of one package | 21:23 |
| ari-tczew | and there is another point of discussion - who is more important - server or contributor's time? | 21:24 |
| ari-tczew | and I see that a lot of people here prefer to wasting contributors time | 21:24 |
| ari-tczew | maybe servers will take merges and FTBFS' fixes? | 21:24 |
| Rhonda | No, that's not what lot of people her prefer nor did actually state. It would be nice if you'd not put words in other people's mouths. | 21:28 |
| ari-tczew | It would be nice if you'd take off slippers from your eyes. | 21:31 |
| Rhonda | Don't have any there, sorry to disappoint you. | 21:41 |
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