[02:57] <rww> IdleOne: indeed
[02:59] <IdleOne> errr, libreoffice just crashed on me :/
[03:00] <rww> beta software is beta ;P
[03:00] <IdleOne> indeed
[03:01] <IdleOne> but it waited till I was almost done editing to go and forget what I had done
[03:43] <ryaxnb> tonyyarusso, you were talking with rww about +q ing me
[03:43] <ryaxnb> and then topyli denied knowing anything and un qed me
[03:43] <ryaxnb> that seems a bit... unethical and against the irc code.
[03:44] <IdleOne> ryaxnb: like tsimpson told you yesterday? if there is an issue with the behavior of one or more of the ops email the IRCC with links to relevant logs and they will look into it.
[03:45] <ryaxnb> tsimpson, said it would be fine to talk to them last i talked to him :)
[03:45] <ryaxnb> hes not here now
[03:45] <ryaxnb> i specifically remember tsimpson saying  i could do it, i asked him
[03:45] <IdleOne> true you can speak to them about it.
[03:46] <ryaxnb> so then do you have a problem with me pinging him here?
[03:46] <ryaxnb> apparently hes either not here or hiding
[03:46] <ryaxnb> so im gonna part in a minute or two
[03:46] <ryaxnb> but since hes not marked away, i figured i should try...
[03:46] <IdleOne> perhaps send a PM to rww and/ort tonyyarusso
[03:46] <ryaxnb> ok
[03:46] <IdleOne> no I have no issue with you pinging them here
[03:47] <ryaxnb> ok
[03:47] <ryaxnb> cya
[04:06] <rww> I already replied to him pinging me in -ot the other day. Dunno what he wants, or if he just didn't get my reply.\
[04:08] <IdleOne> yup I saw it. I'm thinking you might want to talk to him in here, just so it is on the record.
[04:09] <ryaxnb> hello rww
[04:10] <rww> hi
[04:10] <rww> Here's the message you missed the other day:
[04:10] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic freenode2011-01-08.log:02:14:04 < rww> ryaxnb: The reasons why I quieted you are outlined in the irclogs.ubuntu.com page you linked. I do not plan to apologize for what I consider to be valid reasoning.
[04:10] <ryaxnb> so why did you do that, and do you have any sort of justification at all? it violates the irc rules, and the reasons given in Mr. Log make nonsense
[04:10] <rww> If you have questions about that page you linked, feel free to ask them. If you take issue with my handling of the situation, please contact the IRCC.
[04:10] <ryaxnb> i havent violated nay Ubuntu policy that i know of
[04:11] <ryaxnb> id like to know what policy i violated
[04:11] <rww> ryaxnb: I explained why I did that on the log file you've already linked. I assume you read that page/
[04:11] <ryaxnb> i did
[04:11] <ryaxnb> you said something about not participating
[04:11] <rww> then I'm not sure why you're asking me which policy I think you violated, since I said that there.
[04:11] <ryaxnb> i did not know that was part of the rules, and besides i try to
[04:11] <rww> "tonyyarusso: considering his tendency to ramble about stuff not even #ubuntu-offtopic can find interesting, the fact that he's been asked not to do so repeatedly, and the fact that he seemingly doesn't care that he's annoying other people, I think he passed the threshold of violating "don't be annoying" months ago."
[04:11] <rww> for example
[04:12] <ryaxnb> of course i care im annoying other people
[04:12] <ryaxnb> thats why i stop rambling when asked, generally.
[04:12] <ryaxnb> :)
[04:12] <rww> Considering that you've been asked to change your behavior and have not, I find this hard to believe.
[04:12] <ryaxnb> i have changed my behavior
[04:12] <ryaxnb> when was the last time i talked about flashlights?
[04:12] <ryaxnb> long time ago
[04:13] <rww> 2011-01-01, which was the day before I quieted you.
[04:13] <ryaxnb> i stopped as i was not finding a response, same with wii (for the most part) and many other topics
[04:13] <ryaxnb> i never seriously talked about them or rambled endlessly, though
[04:13] <ryaxnb> im not one to do that anymore, im tired of getting pigged on for being the rambler and have been working to change that image
[04:14] <ryaxnb> ive been trying to respond more to other posts.... and critique and discuss points of view
[04:14] <ryaxnb> :)
[04:14] <rww> Had I seen an improvement, I wouldn'
[04:14] <rww> t have quieted you.
[04:14] <ryaxnb> well perhaps you had already decided on me and weren't really looking!
[04:14] <ryaxnb> thats IMHO of course
[04:14] <rww> And incidentally, "I stop when asked" isn't really relevant, since you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Every other regular in that channel knows how to have a conversation.
[04:15] <ryaxnb> and i tend to to
[04:15] <ryaxnb> i often start out in the channel by querying other people about what they are chatting about and going on that
[04:15] <rww> ryaxnb: Yes, it's entirely possible that I and the two other ops that replied when I asked about you, and the other ops that didn't object to me quieting you, are wrong.
[04:15] <rww> However, I do not think this is the case. You're welcome to disagree, and you've been informed of the appeals process if you want to take ity.
[04:16] <ryaxnb> no, but i want to let you know that i am working to improve, and i would appreciate if you have any further complaints about my behavior, you talk to me
[04:16] <ryaxnb> then you take action after. :)
[04:16] <ryaxnb> thanks for chatting, even if i didnt get the answer i wanted, i got the message across, ya know?
[04:17] <rww> The problem with this is that the significant number of other times people have talked to you about your behavior, you haven't changed it. But hey, maybe the n+1 time will be different. topyli removed the quiet I set, and I trust his judgement more than my own (since he's been opping forever), so we'll see.
[04:18] <ryaxnb> :/
[04:18] <ryaxnb> seeya
[04:18] <rww> bye
[04:19] <rww> @mark #ubuntu-ops ryaxnb discussion between ryaxnb and rww about his +q, marked in case this goes to IRCC in the future
[04:19] <Amaranth> we should always do that
[04:20] <IdleOne> do @mark's?
[04:20] <Amaranth> yeah
[04:20] <IdleOne> they are useful
[04:20] <IdleOne> but I wish we could get more @comments on bans
[04:20] <rww> nhandler: on a rather relevant note, I read that document you linked during the IRCC meeting recently, and will be adjusting my behavior accordingly
[04:21] <rww> IdleOne: I comment all of mine. Makes things a lot easier on my horrible memory.
[04:22] <IdleOne> rww: same here. I try to make the reasoning clear so that the next op doesn't need to go looking up logs
[04:27] <rww> Hrm. So tech support in -offtopic is now in a similar situation to !o4o? Not banned, but stop it if someone asks you to?
[04:29] <IdleOne> seems so.
[04:29] <rww> Could just combine them. "war, race, religion, technical support" (j/k) ;)
[04:29] <IdleOne> I would say it depends on the mood of the channel at the time.
[04:30] <IdleOne> if most of the active users are discussing the support issue then let it be.
[04:30] <rww> so does !o4o though, imho. We get into politics and religion in there and have no trouble if there's a sensible mood. The newfangled !o4o rule is good that way.
[04:30] <IdleOne> yup
[04:30]  * rww is realizing over time that change is not always a bad thing, should consider protesting less >.>
[04:31] <IdleOne> change is good, when it is good
[04:31] <IdleOne> I think we can improve the channel and still maintain order without being to fanatical about it.
[04:32]  * IdleOne is trying this new "grow as a person thing"
[04:33] <rww> One thing about -ot that I'm seeing more on this side of the fence is that you need to take things on a case-by-case basis, a lot more so than other channels.
[04:33] <IdleOne> there are a lot more variables in -ot then most channels
[04:35] <IdleOne> we tend to tease each other, so knowing when something is playful or hurtful requires a more hands on approach I guess. Not sure I am making any sense but I know what I mean.
[04:37] <rww> The line's a lot more blurry in there, which causes headaches.
[04:52] <elky> maybe s/but trolling, baiting, hostility or repetition are not/but trolling, baiting, hostility, repetition or being annoying are not/
[04:53] <elky> may however be too long for the rfc though
[04:54] <rww> Wouldn't help much, though. All the regulars in -ot (myself included) have blinders on that stop them from noticing when they're annoying >.>
[04:54] <mneptok> just assume you always are. helps in marriage.
[04:55] <rww> you should tell that to snuxoll.
[04:55] <elky> rww, sure, but we're ass covering. if you're told repeatedly you're annoying by more than just a few people, then you're annoying. "stop when asked to stop" doesn't help when the topic changes for each instance of annoyingness
[04:56] <rww> "Don't be annoying" is already in the Guidelines, though, and nobody pays attention to it anyway.
[04:56] <elky> most can recite o4o though
[04:56] <rww> or, to be more precise, it's not liberally interpreted
[04:56] <elky> hence why we /have/ o4o. it's the tl;dr-safe version.
[04:57] <rww> true
[04:58] <h00k> rww: I'm glad you didn't mention me for the whole blinder/marriage thing
[04:58] <rww> h00k: I forgot about you, you're not around enough ;P
[04:59] <elky> h00k, you got engaged only yesterday?
[04:59] <h00k> rww: you hate me :(
[04:59] <h00k> elky: no :-)
[04:59] <h00k> elky: back in July
[04:59] <elky> h00k, that's why snuxoll matters. he's way more noob than you. you've had 6mths of advice already
[05:00] <h00k> that doesn't make me pro-leet yet ;)
[05:00] <rww> you've been engaged for as long as snuxoll's been dating!
[05:00] <elky> nah, but it makes snuxoll much more fun to 'splain to.
[05:00] <elky> lol
[05:00] <h00k> I understand
[05:00] <h00k> :D
[05:00] <h00k> Did he set a date?
[05:00] <elky> i did wonder why we hadn't seen him since mid last year
[05:01] <rww> I thought maybe the dragons had won.
[05:01] <elky> rww, see -ot, he's started again already
[05:02] <h00k> Are you guys talking about someone doing homework through -ot?
[05:02] <rww> If you mean gidimanunaki, that isn't homework, it's gbrainey.
[05:02] <elky> h00k, no, mr xb braindumping.
[05:02] <elky> erm. xnb*
[05:02] <h00k> oh no.
[05:02] <h00k> yeah.
[05:03] <h00k> 'xb' and 'braindump' was enough for that association
[05:03] <elky> "i like thing. what do you like about thing"
[05:04] <h00k> "xyz is detailed specifics about thing. 123 are oppinions on the history and future of thing"
[05:04] <elky> well, to be more comprehensive "i like thing. what do you like about thing. i like this about thing"
[05:04] <elky> though, with a few returns thrown in
[05:04] <rww> I'm doing badly at my new years resolution of staying out of the top 25 on the #ubuntu-offtopic stats. This is helping.
[05:05] <elky> hah
[05:05] <elky> dude, you're not supposed to say resolutions out loud!
[05:05] <IdleOne> I think we need to give him a break. he asked a question about a current/ongoing event. I mean if we are going to jump on his every word we may as well ban him now.
[05:05] <h00k> Oh, I'm probably *way* down
[05:05] <elky> IdleOne, hence why we haven't actually jumped on him
[05:06] <elky> IdleOne, just noting the lack of change and bracing for the impending cascade of "shut him uuuuupppp!"
[05:06] <rww> h00k: 25th, actually. tonyyarusso and I reset for the new year.
[05:06] <h00k> bah!
[05:06] <IdleOne> elky: you are assuming the worst.
[05:06] <rww> h00k: ( !stats-#ubuntu-offtopic has the links, if you care ;)
[05:07] <elky> IdleOne, no, not even close.
[05:07] <h00k> Nice.
[05:08] <rww> which reminds me, I need to look into fixing pisg a little. some of the stats use total lines, not total spoken lines (so includes joins, parts, etc.), which means netsplits make things all wonky.
[05:09] <h00k> also, hackergotchis!
[05:09] <elky> from launchpad?
[05:09] <h00k> sure
[05:09] <rww> will probably go raid Planet for them at some point
[05:09] <h00k> oh, mine isn't my floating head on LP. it is on planet!
[05:09] <elky> rww, launchpad would be more comprehensive
[05:09] <rww> elky: true, but I'm lazy
[05:10] <elky> and has irc nicks listed
[05:14] <rww> plus a lot of the -ot regulars don't have LP accounts, or don't have photos set on them
[05:15] <rww> going down the list, the ones I know do are mostly all members
[05:16] <elky> where were you goign to get the hackergotchis from then? if they're not members, then they're not on planet...
[05:17] <rww> iirc, lhavelund did Planet + self-submissions when he added them
[05:17] <lhavelund> Iwhat
[05:17] <elky> also, some might actually add themselves to lp if they have a reason, like getting a picture show up on the page
[05:17] <rww> lhavelund: pictures on pisg
[05:17] <lhavelund> oh, yes.
[05:17] <rww> and then server broke and they disappeared, so I can't just steal the old ones ;P
[05:18] <elky> you could even be evil and have a sekrit facebook mapper...
[05:18] <elky> that'd scare people, lol
[05:19] <rww> I wish freenode had some sort of authentication API for nickserv. Would be nice to make a page where you log in via that and then can put in nicks, photo, homepage, etc.
[05:20] <elky> that's what they're aiming for with GMS
[05:20] <elky> maybe not quite that deep, but i doubt they'll turn down you helping them achieve that :P
[05:21] <rww> I wish I had the time and experience for it :P
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> You'll have to write it in Perl too :(
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> Silly Freenode.
[05:21] <rww> I like perl! Never used it for webapps, though.
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> GMS is in perl.
[05:23]  * h00k waves to anyone reading the logs
[05:23] <rww> I know, jussi already tried to recruit everyone who speak perl to help with it ;P
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Or rather, theoretically will be, once it's written in 2037, just in time for the Great Crash.
[05:23] <elky> lol
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> Maybe if they picked a language people actually knew they'd get volunteers, eh?
[05:24] <rww> maybe they should do a rewrite in Ruby on Rails!
[05:24] <elky> it was once upon a time going to be php with xml-rpc
[05:24] <elky> so it can theoretically be done with anything that can plug on to xml-rpc.
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> Implement xml-rpc in fortran!
[05:25] <rww> get chu_ and ldunn to do it in Haskell!
[05:43] <Myrtti> you people...
[06:12] <nigelb> Hi
[06:12] <nigelb> Just dropped by the say there's a troll in #ubuntu-motu...
[06:14] <rww> Yeah, ubottu dropped a note here about the ops factoid call. I don't know if anyone with access is around.
[06:14] <nigelb> ah :/
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Can freenode ops help in #ubuntu-motu?
[06:15] <nigelb> elky has access
[06:15] <rww> yes, but she's idle
[06:15] <nigelb> oh :(
[06:15] <rww> !staff | If you're not busy, can you remove Quex01 from -motu?
[06:16]  * nigelb parts
[06:19] <Tm_T> hmm, I has no rights there either
[06:19] <rww> elky: thanks :)
[06:20] <Tm_T> oh, good
[09:24] <Jordan_U> Was OMGWTFBBQ in #ubuntu trying (and failing) to do something malicious?
[09:24] <Myrtti> yeah
[09:25] <Jordan_U> Should I kickban them?
[09:25] <Tm_T> he was trying to send himself to us, simple /j would have worked better
[09:26] <Jordan_U> Myrtti: Thanks.
[09:26] <Myrtti> np
[09:26] <Myrtti> just paying back a favour
[09:54] <nigelb> Hi, the troll from #ubuntu-motu is now in #ubuntu-community-team
[09:55] <nigelb> I'm guessing we'll need staff or jussi for that one.
[09:55] <Hobbsee> nigelb: jono/jcastro may be around by now.
[09:55] <Hobbsee> actually, no they won't
[09:55] <nigelb> Hobbsee: Isn't there a sprint?
[09:56] <elky> it
[09:56] <Hobbsee> nigelb: yeah, but it's also the middle of the night in the US.  got timezones confused
[09:56] <elky> it's 2am US eastern, isn't the sprint in texas?
[09:56] <elky> errr.. us western
[09:56] <nigelb> Yeah, Dallas
[09:57] <Hobbsee> yeah
[09:57] <nigelb> unless someone wakes up at 5
[09:57] <nigelb> not sure who's on the council, but jussi could solve all problems :p
[09:57] <elky> jussi, should appear soon if he hasn't already.
[09:58] <nigelb> Well, since you folks know, I guess I should part.
[09:58] <nigelb> ktxbai
[09:58] <elky> the other council probably need to look up details, and i think only jussi and tsimpson are in awake zones. aim for staff
[09:59] <popey> we need more ops in -community-team
[09:59] <nigelb> I agree.
[10:00] <nigelb> Should I ask in #freenode?
[10:00] <topyli> nigelb: let me see
[10:01] <nigelb> \o/
[10:04] <kloeri> I'm mostly around if staff is needed - just hilight me
[10:06] <elky> kloeri, can you sort it out, or do you need one of the GCs to ask you?
[10:07] <topyli> wow i'm slow without scripts :)
[10:08] <elky> topyli, so you managed?
[10:08] <topyli> yeah
[10:08] <topyli> kloeri: sorted
[10:09] <elky> kloeri, also judging from chatter in -irc, he was attacking elsewhere yesterday
[10:09] <Myrtti> if they're a persistent pest, perhaps k-line would be in order...
[10:09] <topyli> yes -motu apparently
[10:09] <popey> hmm, surprised how many people dont lurk in -community-team
[10:10] <Myrtti> I think there was some activity by them/it/he/she at #freenode/#ubuntu yesterday
[10:10] <Myrtti> can't remember which
[10:10] <Myrtti> headaches make my brain swiss cheese
[10:10] <elky> Mmm, cheese.
[10:11] <kloeri> I can sort things out if staff is on access list - if staff isn't on access I'd need a GC request (in most cases at least)
[10:20] <elky> kloeri, cool. we have staff on our channels pretty much as standard. LoCos are probably the least standardised group of channels
[10:21] <kloeri> nod
[10:23] <kloeri> if you have problems in some channel that staff isn't on acl for I'm willing to bend rules a bit and act _if_ it's sufficiently bad but that will be on a case by case judgement of course
[10:24] <kloeri> just because I have some powers doesn't mean I should use them :)
[10:25] <kloeri> if I was meant to use my powers as much as possible I'd be rehubbing the network and restarting servers all the time :P
[10:26] <elky> Yeah, the daily urge to clear -ot is a common feeling to us too
[10:28] <kloeri> heh
[10:28] <Myrtti> I just have the constant urge to invent faceslap over IP
[10:28] <Myrtti> just so I could slap the people I have trouble enduring with.
[10:31] <elky> Not naming any cow-orkers, of course :P
[10:31] <kloeri> I just want to slap my boss right now.. but that might be a career limiting move
[10:31] <Myrtti> you don't really even want to know what I've endured with the past six months
[10:32] <Myrtti> the pain of stupidity has been more than usual, and that's said a lot
[10:32] <elky> brb, shops run.
[10:33] <kloeri> I also want to slap Debian
[10:48] <Tm_T> someone want to slap me too?
[10:49]  * Tm_T doesn't want to feel outsider
[10:56]  * knome touches Tm_T gently
[10:57] <jpds>  
[10:58] <knome> i love the unpleasant silence
[10:58] <knome> i'd like that in facebook as well if i was signed in
[13:21] <elky> Chocolate for popey? http://www.robertdyas.co.uk/product.php?product_id=149817&source=froogle
[13:28] <Myrtti> ew, marmite
[13:53] <jussi> Afternoon all... finally found time to open the irc client - been a busy day
[13:54] <jussi> kloeri: you do realise this channel is publically logged :P
[13:59] <oCean> just wondering..  is it (still?) policy to actively discourage (use of) public /away messages or nick-changes?
[14:00] <oCean> it seems that some people get upset by being told so, and others ignoring the !afk request altogether, which makes it even more awkward for the users that did change.
[14:02] <Amaranth> oCean: Yes, it's still the policy to discourage such things
[14:02] <Amaranth> oCean: Ideally you wouldn't say anything when you go away but if you're involved in a discussion it can be appropriate to tell those people you are going away
[14:02] <Amaranth> Otherwise don't do it :)
[14:02] <oCean> and "report" users that don't change their habits? Or just leave them be
[14:03] <oCean> there are still a quite a couple of "regulars" in #u that nick-change to whatever|away when leaving
[14:03] <Amaranth> oCean: If you don't listen tell us
[14:05] <oCean> thing is, I don't want to be the only one nagging others about it, if it's not really an issue.
[14:07] <oCean> Don't take this as an away announcement, but I'll be leaving now :)
[14:08] <popey> elky: http://twitpic.com/39p2yg :)
[14:09] <popey> and it's pretty disgusting
[14:14] <Amaranth> *shudder*
[14:20] <jussi> lol
[14:20] <jussi> !away
[14:20] <jussi> Amaranth: that mightve been useful ;)
[14:38] <kloeri> jussi: I do :)
[15:58] <Myrtti> [17:57] < Shishire_> Whoever needs to already knows about the  ubuntuforums thing?
[15:59] <Myrtti> "informative"
[15:59] <Myrtti> TEN POINTS!
[16:05] <IdleOne> was that a question or an answer?
[16:07] <Myrtti> it was the only thing they said
[16:09] <h00k> IdleOne: both.
[16:09] <Myrtti> E_MAKENOSENSE
[16:46] <gnomefreak> !staff see #freenode please
[16:46] <gnomefreak> what the hell happened to !staff factoid?
[16:47] <Myrtti> nothing
[16:47] <Myrtti> you are just using it wrong
[16:47] <gnomefreak> oh i cant add any info to it
[16:47] <gnomefreak> !staff
[16:47] <Myrtti> and there are staff members active there, so...
[16:47] <gnomefreak> yep thats it. thanks Myrtti
[16:47] <Myrtti> pinging them all is pointless
[16:47] <gnomefreak> there wasnt
[16:48] <Myrtti> not even RichiH?
[16:49] <gnomefreak> sorry i see someone killed one of them.
[16:49] <gnomefreak> yes he is active. i didnt know he was staff
[16:49] <gnomefreak> sorry for the ping everyone
[16:49] <Myrtti> you can, btw, add more info with the | sign separating the factoid
[16:52] <gnomefreak> ah thanks
[16:57] <Dave2> .win 41
[16:57] <IdleOne> Error: Permission Denied.
[16:57] <Myrtti> .fail 42
[17:02] <gnomefreak> sorry again for the pings. feel free to yell at me more in ~2 hours ;)
[17:03] <Dave2> far more fail than 42.
[17:03] <jpds> Dave2: at 42 surely?
[17:13] <Myrtti> my brain hurts
[18:04] <jayne> ubottu has a highlight for us?
[18:04] <jayne> (It's too many nicks in one line to trigger a highlight for me, btw)
[18:35] <gnomefreak> what trigger?
[18:50] <IdleOne> the !staff trigger
[18:54] <gnomefreak> ah
[18:54] <gnomefreak> yes that was my fault, well at least using it was my fault
[18:56] <gnomefreak> i would suggest we remove some names from the hilight but i dont think that is the best idea, example: if we remove the name jayne from !staff and you are only one in that list that is online than it doesnt help us when its needed
[18:56] <gnomefreak> remove names if that person asked not just randomly
[19:19] <Tm_T> uh oh
[19:28] <Tm_T> and that said, good night all
[22:29] <Myrtti> hi robinbowes
[22:29] <Myrtti> what brings you here?
[22:29] <robinbowes> Hmm, not sure - I got thrown in here when I started Xchat
[22:29] <Myrtti> right
[22:30] <Myrtti> let me have a look
[22:30] <Myrtti> !give
[22:30]  * robinbowes gives Myrtti some wire
[22:30] <robinbowes> Oooo, I'm banned from #ubuntu for some reaosn
[22:30] <Myrtti> turn that off
[22:32] <robinbowes> Hrm, I'm not sure how it was turned on
[22:33] <Amaranth> What is that even for?
[22:33] <Myrtti> Amaranth: comedy value
[22:33] <robinbowes> It's random quotes - something to do with Uberscript
[22:33] <robinbowes> Must be turned on by default
[22:38] <robinbowes> OK, that should be off now
[22:38] <Myrtti> !give
[22:38] <Myrtti> looks good
[22:38] <robinbowes> I turned off "fun stuff"
[22:38] <Myrtti> what client are you actually using?
[22:38] <Myrtti> is that xchat?
[22:39] <robinbowes> Yes - 2.8.8
[22:39] <robinbowes> With Uberscript extension
[22:40]  * robinbowes is still banned from #ubuntu
[22:40] <Myrtti> yeah, sorry, had to actually search for the ban to undo it
[22:40] <Myrtti> should be fine now
[22:41] <robinbowes> yeah, thanks
[22:41] <robinbowes> I don't visit very often, but when I do it's usually quite urgent :)
[22:41] <robinbowes> (I use mostly RH-flavours of Linux, but have the odd client with Ubuntu LTS)
[22:41] <robinbowes> Anyway - getting rather O/T now - I shall bow out
[22:42] <Myrtti> thanks
[22:42] <robinbowes> Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
[22:42] <Myrtti> rww had actually apparently asked you to turn it off
[22:42] <Myrtti> but better late than never
[22:42] <robinbowes> I didn't see the msg
[22:42] <robinbowes> Sorted now though
[22:42] <robinbowes> ttfn
[22:42] <Myrtti> tata