[02:57] <ruben23> hi guys, i got ubuntu-server 10.10 install and suddenly when i boot its just freeze up on the loading Appmore and loading MTA..any idea guys.
[03:14] <DJCharlie> evening all.
[03:14] <DJCharlie> quick question. i've just set up 2 identical servers for a shoutcast station. what would be the easiest way to set them up for automatic failover (non apache)?
[03:28] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey everyone ive got an old 1u rack server running server 10.04 lts and i set it up on eth0 (megabit) and now that i have gigabit id like to use either eth1 or eth2 but for some reason when i plug in on those ports my webserver ssh server and everything else doesnt work.
[03:28] <T3CHKOMMIE> any ideas"?
[03:38] <T3CHKOMMIE> hello everyone, i have a problem with my install of 10.04 lts, i originally configured my nic for just ETH0 now i have gigabit networking id like to use eth1 or eth2 that are both gigabit, they are configured for dhcp and are getting on my network. howeever none of my ssh web apache ampache or other services are available if im conected via eth1 or eth2 any ideas?
[03:42] <Delerium_> does your eth1 and eth2 are up, with ip assigned to them/
[03:50] <DJCharlie> quick question. i've just set up 2 identical servers for a shoutcast station. what would be the easiest way to set them up for automatic failover (non apache)?
[03:51] <T3CHKOMMIE> Delerium_, yes their both up with ips.
[03:51] <T3CHKOMMIE> but if http://<new ips> everything times out
[03:57] <jeeves__> has anyone here come accross a ping issue where it resolves the DNS name, but dosn't get replies?  I know the network is good (I'm on it on IRC), but I can't get the server to see the network
[04:00] <shauno> firewall rules dropping icmp?
[04:03] <T3CHKOMMIE> hello........
[04:15] <T3CHKOMMIE> nevermind, i got it now. had to remove eth0 from the interfaces and add eth1 as the first NIC on the list. working fine now all on gigabit! woot!
[04:50] <piyushmishra> I can't seem to be able to setup virtual hosts on my local
[04:50] <piyushmishra> can anyone help me?
[04:52] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to reimport all the data that was in a database from a system that crashed into a new MySQL install?
[04:57] <patdk-lap> sure, just take your mysqldump you did and run it
[07:58] <ruben23> hi guys any wasy i can install eaccelerator on ubuntu 10.10
[07:59] <ruben23> any deb package for it on eaccelerator..?
[08:01] <twb> ruben23: no.
[08:02] <ruben23> twb: when im installing eaccelerator sudenly it wotn work at all.
[08:02] <twb> ruben23: sorry, I do not provide support for PHP, nor third-party packages.
[08:12] <gobbe> you should contact vendor and ask from there
[09:14] <Sophia23> Hi guys, How can i enable the multiverse repository on ubuntu server 10.10 via command?
[09:16] <amarcolino> I've got four static ip, however, I wish to only use three now I would like to know is there a way to give other machines internet access without having to buy new ips?
[09:18] <binBASH> Sophia23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[09:20] <binBASH> amarcolino: http://www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables
[09:20] <Sophia23> thank you
[09:20] <binBASH> See step 8
[09:21] <amarcolino> binBASH: thanks will read it now
[09:21] <twb> amarcolino: yes, IPv6
[09:22] <huats> morning
[09:22] <twb> amarcolino: in IPv6 every host gets as many addresses as the whole internet got in IPv4.
[09:24] <amarcolino> twb: nope just plain ipv4
[09:25] <twb> amarcolino: right, so don't do that
[09:25] <twb> amarcolino: use IPv6 and the problem will go away
[09:26] <amarcolino> twb: hmmm... you have to explain why considering I am paying for these static ips and wish to keep one as reserve
[09:26] <twb> amarcolino: because IP addresses are not a scare commodity in IPv6?
[09:28] <amarcolino> twb: so how would I go about doing the same thing using ipv6 considering I have never touched it
[09:31] <twb> amarcolino: 1) go buy a book on IPv6; 2) read it; 3) do stuff
[09:32] <amarcolino> binBASH: just read that am I to assume that I have to make one of the machines into a gateway otherwise I don't see how step 8 would work on a machine without a static ip
[09:32] <amarcolino> twb: ok
[09:32] <binBASH> amarcolino: yup
[09:32] <twb> amarcolino: ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion
[09:33] <binBASH> IPv6 is not a real solution ;)
[09:33] <amarcolino> binBASH: ok, thanks for the link will try it out and see how it goes
[09:33] <binBASH> most sites don't work with ipv6
[09:33] <twb> You have about two weeks before there are no IPv4 addresses left
[09:34] <binBASH> twb: I just bought 3 /24 IPv4 Nets ;)
[09:34] <amarcolino> binBASH: yeah but sooner or later we will have to use it and at this moment ipv6 tunneling doesn't amuse me
[09:36] <twb> IMO if IPv4-only users can't reach your site: tough
[09:37] <binBASH> amarcolino: that will take 2 more years
[09:38] <twb> binBASH: what will happen is that ISPs will start NATting their entire network, just like asian ISPs do already.
[09:39] <amarcolino> binBASH: probably, lets see how that goes. How long has ipv6 been worked on?
[09:39] <twb> amarcolino: decades
[09:39] <amarcolino> twb: far too long
[09:39] <twb> amarcolino: first publication in 1998.
[09:40] <amarcolino> thanks twb for the info on ipv6 and binBASH for the help need to do some work now take care
[09:40]  * twb grumbles
[09:46] <remix_tj> hi, i'm getting some strange problems with an apache rewrite rule
[09:46] <remix_tj> this is the code on the .htaccess
[09:46] <remix_tj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/552381/
[09:47] <remix_tj> now is working but after some time i start getting an infinite loop redirect
[09:48] <remix_tj> any idea? i've set the log to debug, there is no strange errors
[10:07] <twb> OK, help me out here.  I install thttpd.  I tell it to chroot, and I comment out logfile=... (which SHOULD make it use syslog for everything).
[10:07] <twb> Now, I see *no* logs from thttpd.  Stracing it shows it opening /dev/log before chrooting.... so what gives?
[10:29] <Sophia23> how can i enable FTP access on ubuntu server 10.10
[10:37] <lenios> Sophia23, install a ftp server
[10:39] <lenios> Sophia23, see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[10:40] <twb> Grr
[10:41] <twb> "aptitude install -y ubuntu-standard" is not markauto'ing ubuntu-standard's dependencies
[10:41] <screen-x> Hi, I'm getting some messages about plymouth-splash, ureadahead-other and plymouth-log terminating. This is at the end of the boot process after a fresh install of 10.04.1 on a new server.  http://i.imgur.com/1KOGF.jpg
[10:42] <twb> screen-x: those are normal
[10:44] <screen-x> twb: thanks, ok.  On previous installs only the ubuntu version and the login prompt are displayed after boot has finished.
[10:45] <twb> Shrug
[13:18] <Sophia23> example: http://www.kellys-heroes.eu/updater/ArmA2ACE-Repository/ArmA2ACE-Repo.7z       my server: http://46.102.243.254/home/ftp/epicrpg.7z       how do I make it available as html download?
[13:26] <oCean> Sophia23: first, move the file somewhere inside your webserver's documentroot
[13:30] <Sophia23> @oCean. please elaborate
[13:31] <oCean> well, your webserver is restricted to certain directories only. Usually (and default) starting in /var/www So (without modifications) it will not be able to access /home/whatever
[13:32] <oCean> See the DocumentRoot in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default, most likely pointing to /var/www, so that is your webserver's document root. Move the .7z file somewhere below that root, and it should be availble
[13:34] <Sophia23> ok, done
[13:34] <Sophia23> http://46.102.243.254/var/www/epicrpg.7z
[13:35] <oCean> Almost
[13:35] <oCean> http://46.102.243.254/epicrpg.7z this works :)
[13:35] <lenios> oCean, i gave Sophia23 https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html to install an ftp server
[13:36] <oCean> Sophia23: your webroot /var/www is translated to / in your browser, so leaving out /var/www will work.
[13:37] <lenios> looks like ftp is not needed
[13:37] <Sophia23> oh wow, thank you very mmuch
[13:37] <oCean> lenios, Sophia23 I'd prefer a correctly setup vsftpd server indeed, but this'll work too
[15:47] <dominicdinada> Question what package from apt-get do i install to be able to read/write/mount an ntfs drive in 10.04
[15:49] <gobbe> ntfs-3g - read-write NTFS driver for FUSE
[15:52] <pmatulis> is FUSE the only way to interact with NTFS?
[15:53] <gobbe> i'm not sure, at least ntfs-3g is _only_ one able to write to ntfs, afik
[15:53] <gobbe> afaik
[15:53] <gobbe> :)
[15:53] <RoyK> gobbe: the in-kernel ntfs driver supports some writes, if you're willing to click EXPERIMENTAL/UNSTABLE during compilation
[15:54] <gobbe> yes, i know that
[15:54] <gobbe> but ntfs-3g is only one that supports it without experimental :)
[15:54] <RoyK> afaik ntfs-3g is stable
[15:54] <RoyK> the in-kernel stuff isn't very good
[15:55] <dominicdinada> yes it is funny because i can mount on the laptop just not the server
[15:55] <gobbe> yep
[15:55] <gobbe> ntfs-3g is stable
[15:56] <gobbe> dominicdinada: usually in server environment, there's no ntfs-disks from other partition to mount :)
[15:56] <gobbe> that's why it is not included by default
[15:56] <dominicdinada> like another external drive i have is /dev/sdb1 but like there is no dev/sdb2/ etc hmm i will look more into it
[15:57] <dominicdinada> that you for all the input
[15:57] <dominicdinada> thank*
[15:57] <RoyK> apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:58] <dominicdinada> i prefer aptitude but :D yes i saw it listed upon searching just not very descriptive in the results
[15:58] <dominicdinada> hmmm it says that it is installed i am going to reinstall just to be sure
[15:59] <dominicdinada> ok this doesnt make sense, i guess the other external drive is ntfs as well, But why doesnt the 2nd external drive map itself to the next logical /dev/sdb#
[16:09] <compdoc> is it usb?
[16:09] <compdoc> what does 'fdisk -l' show you?
[16:14] <rubbs> Anyone else having issues with upstart not starting various services on an OpenVZ guest install? usually after a reboot.
[16:17] <mdeslaur> hallyn: so...did you get anywhere with the qemu-nbd issue? You said it was a kernel bug? Is there a bug open?
[16:17] <zul> RoAkSoAx: done
[16:25] <RoAkSoAx> zul: thanks ;).
[16:28] <hallyn> mdeslaur: i think i opened a bug against linux-image.  am having some kernel network driver issues this morning...
[16:29] <mdeslaur> hallyn: ah, no rush. If you find the bug #, please let me know.
 both the broadcom and nvidia hooks for kernel upgrade are bugging out on me
[16:31] <mdeslaur> \o/
[16:31] <hallyn> mdeslaur: 700165
[16:31] <hallyn> bug 700165
[16:32] <mdeslaur> hallyn: cool, thanks!
[16:35] <hallyn> mdeslaur: have you found any more out about it?
[16:36] <mdeslaur> hallyn: no, haven't had time...I plan on complaining to jjohansen about it
[16:37] <hallyn> cool
[17:56] <amarcolino> hi ive got my thomson TG585 router in bridge mode which allows me to use my static ips, however, by doing that I lose wireless function, is their a way to keep it in bridge mode and still allow one of the machines to use wireless?
[18:02] <gobbe> maybe you should ask that from thomson?
[18:03] <amarcolino> gobbe: doubt it I think I am just going to slap on my netgear and see if I can set it up with the thomson
[18:08] <RoyK> amarcolino: perhaps you can run openwrt on that? :)
[18:08] <gobbe> :)
[18:10] <amarcolino> RoyK: I doubt it I am quite sure I can't run that on this netgear DG834G :'(
[18:10] <RoyK> amarcolino: http://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Netgear/DG834G
[18:12] <RoyK> you probably won't need the serial console, but it might come in handy if things get messed up
[18:18] <amarcolino> RoyK: nice but isn't their an easier process this is the only spare router I've got and I ain't too sure aboutt he whole opening and fiddling witht he inside components
[18:19] <RoyK> well, get anoter :)
[18:22] <amarcolino> RoyK: that actually made me laugh, guess will swap both routers around for now and stop doing what im doing so the other comps can use wireless tonight, tomorrow will have to find a solution to this problem otherwise will need to buy a a long rj45
[18:22] <amarcolino> RoyK: thanks for the suggestion might just do it once i stop getting cold feet
[18:22] <RoyK> :)
[18:23]  * RoyK runs an old wrt54gl with openwrt - works like a charm
[18:26] <amarcolino> RoyK: by the way serial? You mentioned it and I was lost care to explain?
[18:27] <RoyK> the serial console can be used if you have some serious accident and flash the device badly
[18:27] <RoyK> mostly 'safe mode' or whatever they call it should fix things
[18:28] <RoyK> http://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/OpenWrtDocs/Troubleshooting
[18:29] <amarcolino> thanks will check it out, I am off for now take care
[18:29] <RoyK> if you need the serial console, you probably also need a TTL/RS323 converter, since most routers use TTL levels (3,3V/0V) for their serial ports, and not RS/323 levels (+12V/-12V or +15V/-15V)
[18:30] <amarcolino> I have no clue what those are will need to research and it seems like I may not be attempting this any time soon
[18:31] <RoyK> amarcolino: I don't have a serial console, and haven't bricked any router yet
[18:32] <amarcolino> ok, will see how things go
[18:33] <amarcolino> bye
[19:19]  * He4D ist away (Forever Alone!!!1)
[19:24] <tom_> my /boot partition ran full (98%). Which package do I need to remove in order to delete old kernel images to free space. Is it safe removing linux-image-2.6.32-21-server etc which I don't need?
[19:25] <gobbe> tom_: you can remove them by hand
[19:25] <tom_> gobbe: so no aptitude required, just delete the files in /boot?
[19:26] <gobbe> tom_: you can remove either old packages or just kernel-files by hand
[19:27] <tom_> ok, thx. I was just worried that the apt db tracks nonexisting packages if I do this.
[19:28] <RoyK> tom_: if it's an old install, you probably have a truckload of kernels there you never use
[19:28] <gobbe> and you might even not have them anymore in db
[19:29] <RoyK> tom_: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:29] <RoyK> gobbe: usually ubuntu doesn't remove old kernel images
[19:29] <RoyK> so they'll probably be there
[19:29] <tom_> it's a 10.04 install - should have given more than 100MB to the /boot partition.
[19:30] <RoyK> tom_: if it's not on lvm, it might be a little late for that
[19:30]  * RoyK usually gives /boot half a gig if on a separate partition
[19:30] <tom_> yep - all is lvm but the /boot partition.
[19:31] <RoyK> tom_: did you find any old kernels?
[19:31] <RoyK> if the current one works, the old ones can be removed without problems
[19:31] <tom_> yep - I'm just moving them out of that directory manually in case I need them again.
[19:31] <RoyK> I'd just apt-get remove them
[19:31] <RoyK> but that's just me :)
[19:31] <gobbe> RoyK: usually yes, but in history i'v seen cases where there are kernels without package anymore in db :)
[19:32] <RoyK> tom_: you can easily install older kernels later if needed
[19:33] <tom_> if I remove them with aptitude it also recreates the grub files so that's an advantage
[20:01] <\sh> maswan: happy new year, do you eventually have a machine with be2net interfaces
[20:03] <Slyboots> Hm..
[20:03] <Slyboots> Is there any decent way to try and find out wehre all my network trafic is currently going
[20:03] <Slyboots> my VNC connection is terribly slow but the connection should be idle
[20:09] <gobbe> netstat might give something
[20:11] <schelcj> Slyboots: iptraf is useful, dstat is handy as well, but wireshark is by far the best
[20:11] <schelcj> Slyboots: of course, don't forget tcpdump
[20:11] <Slyboots> Mmm..
[20:19] <RoyK> Slyboots: it's probably the CIA downloading your data :D
[20:19] <RoyK> or Lisbeth Salander
[20:33] <vvanker> what shoud I put in .htaccess to redirect all outbound links to one location?
[20:44] <tucemiux> I can't install cupsys, sudo apt-get install cupsys --> E: Unable to locate package cupsys
[20:45] <RoyK> which version of ubuntu?
[20:45] <tucemiux> ubuntu server 10.10
[20:45] <RoyK> try apt-get intall cups
[20:46] <tucemiux> that one did it, the ubuntu serverguide is old then, I though using the guide for 8.04 would be safe
[20:47] <RoyK> !guide
[20:47] <RoyK> that one is a little more updated
[20:47] <gobbe> yes
[20:47] <gobbe> should use always newist guide :)
[20:47] <gobbe> there's quite lot changes since 8.04
[20:47] <RoyK> you should use the one written for your distro :)
[20:48] <gobbe> yep
[20:48] <RoyK> but alas, no guide for non-lts distros
[20:48] <tucemiux> RoyK, yeah, that was the problem, I was using an old guide, the newer guide uses "cups"
[20:48] <tucemiux> time to update my bookmarks!
[20:48] <\sh> crap be2net proxmox sh*tty NICs
[20:49] <guntbert> RoyK: in fact there is: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/   (still the factoid points to LTS only)
[20:50] <RoyK> ok
[20:50] <RoyK> didn't know that :)
[20:50] <maswan> \sh: bnx2x is what I know them by, but yeah
[20:50] <tucemiux> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[20:50] <maswan> sh: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM57711E 10-Gigabit PCIe
[20:51] <RoyK> maswan: does it work?
[20:52] <RoyK> broadcom has historically been on the lazy side of giving up docs for their boards
[20:52] <maswan> RoyK: yes, but there are some annoying slowness in <maverick interface init, but I haven't re-tested latest lucid update
[20:52] <\sh> maswan: no...it's be2net FlexFabric proxmox crap
[20:53] <\sh> maswan: 10GbE NC551i FlexFabric 2 Ports
[20:53] <maswan> \sh: ah, no then, sorry, is confusingly close name
[20:53]  * RoyK sticks to Intel NICs for Linux
[20:53] <maswan> RoyK: This is onboard on hp blades
[20:54] <RoyK> intel is working closely with the kernel possy, so I don't se a reason not to use their hardware :)
[20:54] <RoyK> maswan: IC
[20:55] <guntbert> RoyK: google for ubuntu maverick iwl3945 slow :-((
[20:56] <maswan> guntbert: isn't that a wireless? were in -server here. ;)
[20:56] <guntbert> maswan: I know :-)  just venting apropos intel networking :-)
[20:57] <RoyK> I beleive the intel guys will prioritise the server products for linux :P
[20:58] <\sh> maswan: the problem is , pxe boot -> perfect, kernel boots, initramfs wants to be started live-premount -> ipconfig -t 360 -c dhcp -d eth0 -> Kernel tells me: eth0 link up -> after 360 secs , kernel panic, because no IP address and on my dhcp I see the request, but no ack coming...doing the break=premount magic, sometimes after 5 minutes I can do the ipconfig dhcp magic and the nic is up and running and then in another try, nothing after 10 minuts
[20:59] <\sh> and googling for be2net proxmox crap, gives me any crap I don't want, from new firmware to new kernel
[21:00] <screen-x> I deleted an image file for a running vm. The VM is currently running, so the file wont actually be deleted till it is closed, is there any way I can copy it? by inode or something?
[21:00] <maswan> \sh: sounds unfun
[21:01] <\sh> maswan: well, my first day back @office...and I need to deploy those blades this week for the weekend...yes, unfun
[21:01] <RoyK> screen-x: check the files listed under /proc/PID
[21:01] <RoyK> screen-x: PID being the process's pid
[21:01] <screen-x> lsof gives: qemu-syst 28694 root    8u   REG  251,2 1574764544 6815747 /var/vm/VMs/joomla/joomla-root.img (deleted)
[21:01] <RoyK> screen-x: those files should be openable - perhaps you need to hack something together in C or perl or something, but still
[21:03] <maswan> \sh: ugh
[21:03] <RoyK> \sh: try 10.10
[21:03] <\sh> RoyK: no way...we need 10.04 LTS :)
[21:04] <maswan> \sh: if it works, you can start working on a kernel/driver backport
[21:04] <RoyK> \sh: just to test - as maswan said
[21:04] <RoyK> I guess it's a kernel/driver issue
[21:04] <RoyK> if so, you either need to get support from Canonical, which is quite cheap, or you need to test on 10.10
[21:05] <screen-x> RoyK: that worked! did ls -l in /proc/pid/fd to find the right file, then cat'd it out to another file..
[21:06] <RoyK> :)
[21:06] <screen-x> didnt think it would be that easy, but thanks for the pointer :D
[21:06]  * RoyK installed his first linux machine in 1993 and is still learning :P
[21:07] <\sh> RoyK: honestly there is no time...I'm doing a manual installation and see what eventually is happening because my tests at hp democenter was successfull with lucid but I never did a dhcp test...so I'll see and report bugs ;)
[21:08] <RoyK> \sh: if you have a bladecenter from HP, try installing 10.10 on another blade
[21:08] <RoyK> just to see if the bugs are there
[21:10] <\sh> RoyK: this is what I'm going to do after I installed this blade...let's wait and see...I don't have the patience right now to generate a new FAI config for maverick ;)
[21:10] <RoyK> \sh: heh - ic
[21:11] <RoyK> \sh: just asking, do you have lucid up and running, or are you still installing it?
[21:11] <RoyK> there's a bunch of fixes wating to be installed later...
[21:12] <\sh> RoyK: it's installing (ILO3 + iso image from my windows machine via 100Mbit to the internetworks is not as fast as expected to the DC, sadly internal IT don't want 1GBit/s links to the outside
[21:15] <\sh> well, we should really think about an alternative to klibcs ipconfig in initramfs, too
[21:16]  * RoyK just installed his first couple of servers and switches on 10Gbps
[21:23] <kobrien> Greetings. Today I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I did the usual package updates and all was fine. A few hours later it seems that all outgoing traffic is being blocked. Any idea why this could happen?
[21:24] <kobrien> I have an IP and can't even telnet to google.com on port 80, which I can do fine on another machine. ( google.com or the associated IP )
[21:24] <qman__> kobrien, check the output of `sudo iptables -L`
[21:24] <RoyK> kobrien: does dmesg tell you anything?
[21:25] <RoyK> qman__: if he can't telnet out, that's hardly a firewall problem
[21:25] <tucemiux> 10.10 doesnt have the driver for my printer, 10.04 did, what gives !
[21:25] <qman__> if his firewall is dropping all traffic, it could be
[21:25] <RoyK> tucemiux: usually the client has the driver :P
[21:25] <guntbert> kobrien: ping does work?
[21:25] <qman__> but hardware failure/driver failure is equally likely
[21:26] <kobrien> here is the output of iptables: http://pastebin.com/wfdNcUNb
[21:26] <tucemiux> RoyK, im configuring the printer through the CUPS web interface :-(
[21:26] <qman__> ok, not the firewall
[21:26] <kobrien> guntbert: ping is blocked on my network for all machines
[21:26] <RoyK> tucemiux: using windows machines as clients or just linux?
[21:27] <tucemiux> RoyK, im going to use windows clients as well
[21:27] <RoyK> kobrien: you're insane - ping is an integral part of icmp, and should be left open
[21:27] <kobrien> guntbert: by which I mean ping is supposed to be blocked here
[21:27] <RoyK> tucemiux: I guess a quick google search may lead to the right driver :P
[21:27] <guntbert> kobrien: what RoyK just said...
[21:28] <qman__> yeah, blocking ping doesn't offer any real protection and is just annoying to deal with
[21:28] <qman__> foolish security by obscurity technique
[21:29] <tucemiux> RoyK, but how do I install the driver?  It used to be built in but it got removed
[21:29] <RoyK> some 10-12 years ago, you could DOS a machine with a malfunct ping, but current IP stacks don't have that issue
[21:29] <qman__> tucemiux, it's probably in a package that was installed on 10.04 but isn't installed on your 10.10
[21:29] <RoyK> tucemiux: cups drivers are just files - easy to install
[21:29] <RoyK> tucemiux: fgfi
[21:30] <tucemiux> qman__,  ok the question is, how do I install the package ?
[21:30] <kobrien> oh no. it's fixed itself. I suppose the intermittent self reboots are a bad sign...suggests hardware/firmware doesn't it
[21:31] <tucemiux> RoyK,  you keep saying it's easy to install yet dont mention a link or give me the instructions on how to do it,  im trying to install the hp officejet 5500 drivers
[21:32] <RoyK> sorry, tucemiux, I don't have it clearly in my head, but last I googled that, it was quite clear how to do it
[21:32] <jdstrand> hallyn: hi! I'm curious why you made vm-builder a native package in natty? (eg, 0.12.4+bzr461 vs 0.12.4+bzr461-0ubuntu1
[21:32] <jdstrand> )
[21:32] <tucemiux> RoyK,  actually, youre right, it's an easy fix
[21:32]  * tucemiux pops out his 10.04 ubuntu server CD
[21:34] <j0nr> evening. I am setting up a fresh install of 8,04 server and when I run 'newaliases' I get a fatal error about postalias: fatal: open /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied
[21:34] <j0nr> /etc/aliases.db did not exist, so i created it (touch /etc/aliases.db) and now get th error: postalias: fatal: cannot remove zero-length database file /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied
[21:35] <qman__> j0nr, did you use sudo?
[21:35] <j0nr> yes
[21:35] <j0nr> well, running as root
[21:35] <j0nr> @ qman__
[21:35] <qman__> j0nr, sure your filesystem isn't read-only? a simple `mount` will tell
[21:36] <j0nr> just issue 'mount' ?
[21:36] <qman__> yes
[21:36] <RoyK> qman__: nope, it won't
[21:36] <qman__> no?
[21:36] <qman__> it does over here
[21:36] <RoyK> qman__: if the filesystem was remounted ro by the kernel, mount will still reflect the original settings
[21:36] <qman__> ah
[21:37] <RoyK> j0nr: dmesg
[21:37] <SpamapS> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17125/testdrive-equivalent-for-ubuntu-server
[21:37] <RoyK> that'll tell you if the fs was remounted ro for some reason
[21:37] <SpamapS> somebody shoul go answer that
[21:37] <SpamapS> hallyn: ^^
[21:37] <MagicFab> marrusl, ping
[21:38] <j0nr> RoyK: what am I looking for with dmesg?
[21:38] <RoyK> run dmesg
[21:38] <RoyK> pastebin the last 10 lines or so
[21:38] <qman__> if it was apparmor or file attributes you'd be getting a different error
[21:39] <hallyn> jdstrand: I don't udnerstand the question
[21:39] <j0nr> RoyK: http://pastebin.com/ihvKyDh8
[21:39] <hallyn> oh
[21:39] <hallyn> I'm guessing user error
[21:39] <RoyK> j0nr: that is, first try 'touch /etc/asdf'
[21:40] <j0nr> RoyK: touch /etc/asdf worked
[21:41] <RoyK> then the fs is rw
[21:41]  * RoyK guesses apparmor is the bad guy
[21:41] <j0nr> aliases.db exists
[21:41] <RoyK> can you touch it?
[21:42] <j0nr> shall i disable apparmor? ala http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p3
[21:44] <j0nr> hmm if it was running...
[21:44] <j0nr> not running i guess means not a cause?
[21:44] <jdstrand> hallyn: vm-builder used to have this version: 0.12.4+bzr459-0ubuntu1
[21:45] <jdstrand> hallyn: then you uploaded 0.12.4+bzr460, dropping the -0ubuntu1 and making the package native
[21:45] <jdstrand> s/and/and thus/
[21:46] <j0nr> apparmor is not installed
[21:46] <jdstrand> hallyn: I was curious if you did this intentionally, and if so, why
[21:46] <RoyK> j0nr: apparmor is installed
[21:47]  * jdstrand says an aside that his perfect ubuntu server would always have apparmor enabled...
[21:47] <j0nr> i just tried apt-get remove apparmor and it said its not installed
[21:48] <jdstrand> hallyn: I just saw your last comment re user error
[21:49] <jdstrand> hallyn: dpkg treats native packages differently than non-native ones. one thing in particular is that a native packages always requires a full source upload, whereas a non-native just requires the diff.gz, dsc and changes file
[21:50] <jdstrand> hallyn: (assuming the orig.tar.gz is already in the archive)
[21:50] <screen-x> I get this error when trying to start a kvm guest with virsh. It the guest starts ok if I use qemu-system-x86_64 directly. I think it might be to do with the vnc monitor? "error: monitor socket did not show up.: Connection refused"
[21:50] <hallyn> jdstrand: i'm trying to recall exactly how i did the upload.
[21:51] <hallyn> jdstrand: yeah, i just messed up
[21:51] <hallyn> jdstrand: should i do a version bump release?
[21:51] <hallyn> jdstrand: btw, i was wondering why some packages didn't give me diff.gz files :)
[21:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: since you are doing bzr pulls and uploading, it doesn't make a huge difference for you, but if say I were going to patch something in vmbuilder and then forward it upstream, then I end up having to upload a whole new source tarball
[21:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: hehe
[21:52] <hallyn> jdstrand: so for community convenience, i should do a version bump?
[21:52] <hallyn> jdstrand: or is that just going to be more churn+pain for everyeone?
[21:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: the next time you do an upload, sure. but you need to first create an orig.tar.gz
[21:54] <hallyn> jdstrand: iiuc bzr will just do it for me.  I notice there is a .orig.tar.gz in the tarball I uploaded for -461
[21:54] <jdstrand> hallyn: to do that, grab the upstream source via bzr (assuming you aren't using a release tarball, then pull out all the VCS stuff (ie, .bzr*), then tar -zcvf a orig.tar.gz file (excluding debian/), then drop debian/ in there, adjust the version and it'll all work out
[21:55] <jdstrand> hallyn: oh, then you need to fix that I think
[21:55] <hallyn> what do you mean?
[21:55] <jdstrand> hallyn: yeah, that package is kinda weird atm
[21:55] <hallyn> (bzr-buildpackage -S is how I got it)
[21:56] <hallyn> it sounds to me like bzr-buidlpackage -S did the right thing, i just messed up with my changelog in the packaging branch
[21:56] <jdstrand> oh wait, I looked a tthe wrong thing
[21:56] <hallyn> the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergeHallyn_packaging describes how i had *planned* on doing the vmbuilder upload :)  (but unfortunately it didn't automagically dput like i'd hoped :)
[21:56] <jdstrand> hallyn: yes, I think you are right. just the version needs to be changed
[21:57] <tucemiux> sudo apt-get install cupsys, there is a big difference between leaving the "sys" out, time to downgrade to 8.04 :-(
[21:57] <hallyn> hm, actually there is an open merge request, maybe that'll give me an exc use to do a version bump
[21:57] <jdstrand> cool
[21:59] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17125/testdrive-equivalent-for-ubuntu-server
[22:12] <j0nr> sooo, any ideas how to solve this newaliases problem? kinda stops me gettng anywhere with my mail server
[22:12] <kirkland> smoser: do you have a recent natty uec image here locally?
[22:12] <smoser> no
[22:13] <kirkland> smoser: dang
[22:21] <j0nr> problem sorted, as always, a perms issue
[22:21] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: testdrive -p uec-daily -l uec-server
[22:26] <gtaylor> Anyone here good with EC2+Ubuntu?
[22:40] <smoser> Daviey, ping
[22:42] <Daviey> smoser, o/
[22:42] <Daviey> smoser, just read your email... why is that issue new to us?
[22:43] <smoser> its not
[22:43] <smoser> its new because ew changed ids
[22:43] <smoser> and this one cant see that list
[22:43] <smoser> but the other one could.
[22:43] <smoser> we need to modify the database and move those to terminated
[22:43] <smoser> (and i need to get those instances out of 'shutting-down' , where they're hung
[22:44]  * SpamapS predicts his cleanup effort will need to solve this problem
[22:44] <smoser> ok. i just got them correctly terinated somehow
[22:44] <smoser> so... we need to update database for : i-aafd02c7 i-9a946cf7 i-e309428e
[22:44] <smoser> mark them as terminated
[22:45] <smoser> (they are terminated now)
[23:02] <smoser> Daviey, we should be fixed now. i hope that cron spam has ended
[23:17] <Daviey> smoser, what did you do?
[23:33] <RoAkSoAx> zul: bug #700161
[23:37] <RoAkSoAx> zul: bug #701233 too please :)
[23:41] <Danny78> I've got Ubuntu accessing Win7 but Win7 not seeing Ubuntu (but it can ping both FQDN and IP)
[23:41] <fluvvell> Danny78, so you have a samba server set up, smb.conf with a working share called sharename,   the output of smbtree is on http://pastebin.com/xpmuAN94, and your still wanting to be able to see your ubuntu box "BUDDHA" on your windows network, but its not showing?
[23:42] <Danny78> fluvvell:  yes that's correct
[23:42] <Danny78> fluvvell:  win7 can see my network printer and use it, can also see router and has internet, but can't see buddha
[23:43] <fluvvell> Danny78, but you can ping your  ubuntu server from windows.  You need to pastebin your current smb.conf file, then ask for some help to sort out the user and permissions stuff I think
[23:43] <Danny78> fluvvell:  ok
[23:44] <screen-x> What needs to be done to a fresh install of lucid to get virtsh to work?
[23:44] <fluvvell> DAnny78, also, does the directory that you are sharing exist? Are there files in it? (make a demo directory and copy some files with chmod 777 permissions)
[23:45] <screen-x> I can start VMs with  qemu-system-x86_64, but haven't had any luck with libvirtd based apps
[23:46] <fluvvell> Danny78, you could also go to your winbox and type     net use N:  \\buddha\sharename  /yes        and see if an N: drive appears on your winbox
[23:46] <fluvvell> gotta go now
[23:46] <Danny78> fluvvell:  ok, will try these now
[23:48] <SpamapS> hallyn: bug #271791 ... bzr issue is in paramiko actually
[23:53] <Danny78> win7 is still not seeing Ubuntu, here's my smb.conf:  http://pastebin.com/uzuMK1S6
[23:56] <zeknox> how can I do a minimal install?
[23:56] <zeknox> server minimal install
[23:56] <Danny78> does anyone have any suggestions on what or where to look next to get win seeing ubuntu's shares?