[04:48] <gokendra> Hi Everyone .
[05:01] <ideasman_42> Hi, how would I get a spec from from a PPA if Im not on ubuntu?
[05:02] <ideasman_42> someone made a PPA of our software and Id like to check on how they did it, but without installing
[05:20] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, what is the ppa
[05:20] <ideasman_42> nit-wit, http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/01/blender-256-beta-releasedubuntu-ppa.html
[05:21] <ideasman_42> so ppa:cheleb/blender-svn ?
[05:28] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, hard to say I'm not a code writer, but it would be the source code that is available, or thats the open source rumor.
[05:29] <ideasman_42> nit-wit, I have the source, I was interested in getting the spec file they used to create the package
[05:30] <nit-wit> nit-wit, yeah I have no idea are you unhappy with this.
[05:31] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, looks like acool program though
[05:32] <ideasman_42> yep, were planning to make a feature length movie with it! :)
[05:32] <ideasman_42> with ubuntu too you may be interested
[05:32] <ideasman_42> used ubuntu for previous 2 short movies
[05:34] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, wikipedia has a good description it seems of the possibilities, although limited I suspect. It does look like movie material. Do you have the movies available?
[05:37] <ideasman_42> nit-wit, our last short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ
[05:37] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, thanks I will check it out now, what had you using the GNU license
[05:38] <ideasman_42> its creative commons
[05:38] <ideasman_42> software is gpl
[05:42] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, I see, I like the movie link, I haven't watched much of this genre but it looks pretty good.
[05:43] <ideasman_42> BTWm making a PPA of is great, but I would like their specfile as a reference
[05:45] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, I suspect if you contact them they would share, thats the whole idea, the shared good for the whole and all that:)
[05:46] <ideasman_42> ok, thaught there might be some automatic way to grab ppa specs
[05:46] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, I don't know I wish I did.
[05:48] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, blender is in the regular release of my Maverick setup as well, it is in synaptic.
[05:49] <ideasman_42> yep, but this is the old stable version I expect
[05:49] <ideasman_42> we're doing a rewrite/refactor
[05:51] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, I say knock George Lucas and all the rest off their high places
[05:51] <ideasman_42> heh, this is europe so I think holywood is safe :)
[05:53] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, I will save the page, and look at the other links, I have to get back to writing a paper on female resistance in the slave trade.
[05:54] <nit-wit> ideasman_42, good luck on the movie and continued work.
[05:55] <ideasman_42> thx :)
[08:31] <susundberg> i've had some weird problemsn with 11.04 kubuntu -- last boot my kde stopped at the place where last icon is loaded
[08:31] <susundberg> console work fine though, but i guess thanks to nvidia binary drivers the text was shown inproperly
[08:31] <susundberg> oh it still is
[08:31] <susundberg> x works fine though
[11:30] <coz_> good day
[11:30] <susundberg> hello
[11:30] <coz_> hey
[11:42] <coz_> any issues with updates today?
[11:42] <coz_> mm why is cmake being removed ?
[11:53] <coz_> mm I understand compiz has to run from the get go with Unity enabled  but  with calssic gnome?   I think this is going to get a few users in #compiz  a bit irritated   but maybe I am wrong :)
[14:34] <htorque> argh, this is driving me nuts: does anyone else see choppy flash videos in firefox, and in firefox only (works fine in opera and chromium)? all i did was installing adobe-flashplugin (using nvidia blob on one system, i915 on the other)
[14:38] <susundberg> hum
[14:39] <susundberg> example video -- any form youtube?
[14:39] <susundberg> from
[14:41] <susundberg> i got flashplugin-installer and seems to work with firefox and nvidia (nvidia is not from package manager though)
[14:41] <gnubie> htorque:  just looked at a youtube in firefox, ran well.  firefox addon: shockwave flash 10.1 r102. Running natty 64 bit.
[14:42] <htorque> susundberg: it's basically every flash video :-(
[14:43] <susundberg> like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfQHzjNvRU ?
[14:43] <htorque> gnubie: thanks for the feedback - seems i'm cursed :P
[14:43] <susundberg> somebody did say that some xorg update did brake some intel driver thing
[14:44] <susundberg> but your flash fails on both (nvidia & intel)..
[14:44] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:45] <htorque> susundberg: yt videos tend to run better. not as smooth as with chromium and opera but also not choppy. trying to find an example.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ssh suddenly refused all connections on the pcs on our lan , had to purge both server and clients on all machines , but reboot and reinstall did the trick to fix it.
[14:59] <coz_> hey guys,,, noticed the desktop icons are 100 pixels...approx...from the left edge of the screen....any easy way to set this closer?  Classic gnome not  Unity.... but seems to be spaced for Unity!
[14:59] <coz_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/icons.png  <, screenshot of it
[15:47] <DJKorbit> good afternoon everyone
[15:49] <DJKorbit> just installed virtualbox from the repos and it crashed my pc because of the vboxdrv
[15:49] <DJKorbit> anyone with the same problem? (i'm using natty)
[15:50] <BluesKaj> natty on VB , I'd expect probs
[15:50] <DJKorbit> VB on natty in this case
[15:50] <DJKorbit> i'm using natty and installed VB on top of it
[15:51] <charlie-tca> VBox in natty needs to be VirtualBox version 4.0, which is not yet in the repositories, as far as I know
[15:52] <BluesKaj> maybe VB isn't rerady to run on natty .. my ssh server and clients crapped out on all my natty pcs -3 , and I had to purge them and reinstall
[15:52] <charlie-tca> I use it everyday, but I downloaded it from oracle/vbox website.
[15:53] <DJKorbit> thanks very much, i'll download the last version from the website
[15:53] <BluesKaj> charlie-tca, which OS are you running in VB ?  I was wondering if W7 will?
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I don't have any versions of windows
[15:54]  * BluesKaj nods
[15:54] <DJKorbit> i need vbox because i'm working on a new ubuntu based distro and i need to install natty on it
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I test the images daily
[15:54] <charlie-tca> DJKorbit: then maybe you need to download it from oracle?
[15:55] <DJKorbit> charlie-tca, i'll do that in a second, thanks ;)
[15:55] <charlie-tca> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[15:56] <charlie-tca> DJKorbit: they changed the user agreements, too
[15:57] <DJKorbit> charlie-tca, typical from oracle i would say!
[15:57] <BluesKaj> another thing , pulseaudio is a mess on natty , at least on my setup ...it was ok for a while on maverick...anyway I dumped it
[16:04] <BluesKaj> dunno why canonical insists on using PA...I know there was a push by a couple of devs to have it adopted as default a few ubuntu versions ago , but it really isn't very universal in it's adaptabilities ..big mistake IMO
[16:06] <Amaranth> BluesKaj: Everyone uses pulseaudio
[16:06] <Amaranth> BluesKaj: Find me a GNOME distro that doesn't
[16:07] <Amaranth> Heck, I'm pretty sure most KDE distros do too
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Amaranth, , no matter , I don't need it and as far as I'm concernined it's the cause of alot of audio probs and confusionfor those who aren't aware of it's effects
[16:29] <DJKorbit> i'm getting an error while removing virtualbox-ose, anyway to fix this?
[16:29] <DJKorbit> Removing virtualbox-ose ...
[16:29] <DJKorbit>  * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                            * Cannot unload module vboxdrv
[16:29] <DJKorbit>                                                                          [fail]
[16:29] <DJKorbit> invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox-ose, action "stop" failed.
[16:30] <DJKorbit> it fails because of that
[16:31] <charlie-tca> I don't remember if I ignored that or just searched and removed it manually
[16:56] <DJKorbit> i have a lot of bugs to report in natty when i have some time
[18:10] <jml> why does opening a link from say xchat-gnome open firefox even though Chrome is my default browser?
[18:11] <yofel> check what 'gnome-open URL' does, last thing I heard it was behaving weird
[18:14] <om26er> bug 670128 ?
[18:16] <PKKid_> Hey, whats the consensus on Ubuntu 11.04?  Is it stable enough to use for work yet?
[18:16] <om26er> PKKid_, its far from stable
[18:16] <PKKid_> om26er, Good enough of an answer for me, thanks. ;)
[18:17] <PKKid_> it is 4 months away on a 6 month release cycle, so i figured it was too soon.. but always worth asking. :)
[18:44] <dupondje> What are the new cool things in Natty ?
[18:50] <yofel> unity and KDE 4.6 :P
[18:56] <dupondje> lets upgrade :)
[18:57] <dupondje> 1371 packages
[18:57] <dupondje> not bad ^^
[19:07] <DaveD0101> Can anyone tell me how to install the sun/oracle jre in natty?  It doesn't appear to be in any of the repos.  Do I have to use the manual package from their site?
[19:08] <gnomefreak> DaveD0101: what package are you looking for? we have jre packages. as for related to sun/oracle not sure. open synaptic and search for what you need
[19:08] <gnomefreak> if you can narrow it down a bit. sun java we have
[19:08] <Pici> The partner repositories for the in-development release usually don't open until later. Unless they've opened since I last looked.
[19:08] <yofel> nope, they're still empty
[19:09] <gnomefreak> i cant seem to open a new tab/terminal atm, i lost my terminal menus
[19:09] <DaveD0101> gnomefreak, Sun's java.  Just the JRE, not JDK.  Searched for sun-java and only got results that appear to be DB connectors and such.
[19:09] <yofel> DaveD0101: you'll have to use mavericks partner repository if you want the sun jre
[19:09] <yofel> we don't have that for natty yet
[19:09] <DaveD0101> yofel, Gotcha.  I'll try that.  Thanks!
[19:09] <Pici> I wouldn't expect that many changes between the releases myself.
[19:09] <gnomefreak> we dont?
[19:09] <Pici> * for sun java.
[19:09] <gnomefreak> IIRC i have it
[19:10] <gnomefreak> ah i have the free ones
[19:10] <Pici> gnomefreak: Is this an upgrade?
[19:10] <Pici> Or that.
[19:10] <gnomefreak> Pici: it was back in oct.
[19:10] <gnomefreak> once toolchain landed i upgrade as normal
[19:10] <tetsuo__> hello, is it possible to install natty packadges on maverick?
[19:11] <gnomefreak> ok i cant open a second term and missing term menu :(
[19:11] <gnomefreak> tetsuo__: you dont want to do that
[19:11] <tetsuo__> i guess so, i just need the newer samba version, for the bug fix in it
[19:12] <gnomefreak> 95% of the time doing that will break your system and natty packages are not likely to fix your problems
[19:12] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a minute i have to fix this
[19:17] <DaveD0101> yofel, That worked perfectly.  Jre installed fine, as did the common browser plugins.
[19:17] <DaveD0101> Thanks for the help all!
[19:18] <gnomefreak> i still dont have the damn menus
[19:19] <gnomefreak> yofel: any idea on how to get into the term profile preferences without the term menus?
[19:20] <yofel> I have no idea where gnome stores those
[19:20] <gnomefreak> its weird everything else has them except g-t
[19:21] <DaveD0101> gterm?
[19:22] <DaveD0101> /home/username/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles
[19:22] <DaveD0101> looks like
[19:22] <gnomefreak> thanks
[19:25] <gnomefreak> <entry name="default_show_menubar" mtime="1294773430" type="bool" value="false"/>  yep
[19:25] <tetsuo__> ive found an alternative, nightly builds specifically for maverick :)
[19:25] <tetsuo__> gnomefreak:  thanks for the warning
[19:25] <gnomefreak> nope didnt help
[19:26] <DaveD0101> Alright, thanks again, see you all soon, I'm sure.
[19:26] <gnomefreak> ok ctrl+alt+t == open new term. anyone know what is for tab?
[19:27] <gnomefreak> be back in a min.
[19:50] <gnomefreak> ok terminal issue is fixed
[19:53] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to generate a default /etc/default/grub?
[19:53] <gnomefreak> renaming than running update-grub?
[19:56] <yofel> since that's in /etc you would have to purge grub-pc and reinstall it, but for grub rather get the source package and copy it from there
[19:57] <gnomefreak> thanks
[19:57] <yofel> or there's some dpkg magic I don't know about
[20:00] <gnomefreak> for some reason when i was testing options to boot into 2.6.37-12 since i cant. when i changed quiet splash to nomodeset it didnt help but when i changed it back to quiet splash now the fonts and everything else related to grub is messed up mainly font size and color
[20:04] <gnomefreak> only 3 more things i need to work on :)
[20:07] <gnomefreak> for some reason it looks like im running compiz on classic desktop
[22:24] <BUGabundo> yoooooooo
[23:25] <coz_> hey guys... are there nvidia install issues  today?
[23:29] <coz_> ah apparenlty after 6 trys  it installs  :)
[23:39] <wolffu> I take it I'm not the only one having problems with the install then?