[00:03] <ogra> GrueMaster, bug 532733
[00:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 532733 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "apt/dpkg in qemu-system-arm hangs if a big task is installed (affects: 10) (dups: 1) (heat: 81)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532733
[00:04] <ogra> err
[00:04] <ogra> wrong one
[00:05] <ogra> GrueMaster, bug 674146
[00:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 674146 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 6 other projects) "dpkg segfaults during debootstrap on natty armel (affects: 1) (heat: 76)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674146
[02:55] <Homefix> Hello
[02:58] <Homefix> I have a question anyone with a sec
[03:22] <Homefix> I have, im sure to most of you fine folks, is a simple question concerning rootfromscratch would i be wasing my time just to post it ?
[03:25] <rcn-ee> one must ask to find out...
[03:25] <Homefix> cool
[03:26] <Homefix> Iim wasting my time setting up ubuntu on my evo and epic phones
[03:27] <Homefix> I* have succ setup the premade image and my own image using the edubuntu website,
[03:27] <rcn-ee> there's really no ubuntu 'kernel' for that situation, the most you'd get is a ubuntu userspace you could chroot into..
[03:27] <Homefix> hold on now i type slow
[03:29] <Homefix> I am happy with what i have done with this i am running programs on my phone with maveric lucid and jaunty
[03:29] <Homefix> however
[03:29] <Homefix> my question is
[03:29] <Homefix> when i use the premade image everything is a oty
[03:30] <Homefix> when i chroot with my built image,
[03:30] <Homefix> i get hold on i have to cut and paste this
[03:31] <Homefix> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
[03:31] <Homefix> and termanil does not work
[03:31] <Homefix> on my phone
[03:32] <Homefix> not in qemu
[03:32] <Homefix> is that make sense
[03:32] <Homefix> ?
[03:32] <rcn-ee> so... a premade image works.. your built image doesn't work.... question? who made the 'premade' image..
[03:33] <Homefix> its the one here.....
[03:33] <Homefix> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch
[03:34] <Homefix> the ubuntu terninal does not have a prompt in ubuntu on my phone
[03:34] <Homefix> in the premade one it works
[03:34] <Homefix> i have been doing this for days and days
[03:35] <Homefix> i wrote this hold on and ill link it
[03:35] <Homefix> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401
[03:37] <Homefix> i dont under stand the premade was supposivly made using "the steps above"
[03:37] <Homefix> in the article that is
[03:39] <rcn-ee> ah, so it's more then just the premade image..   is this the one that works? http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2
[03:40] <Homefix> 1 sec
[03:41] <Homefix> yes
[03:41] <Homefix> that was not made with the steps above in the article?
[03:41] <rcn-ee> well, that's not an ubuntu.com download, more then likely the user who uploaded it did something else special, you should ping him..
[03:42] <Homefix> ping him?
[03:43] <rcn-ee> well, if you work your way down his web link: http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/ looks like a homepage with contact info..
[03:43] <Homefix> thanks
[03:43] <Homefix> so for sure you think he modified it some how
[03:44] <rcn-ee> nope.. i have no idea if he modified anything.. but to ask him how he built it would be the next logical step..
[03:45] <Homefix> cool thans for the help (one of the links pointed here)
[03:54] <rcn-ee> Homefix, another thing, that premade was karmic, with lucid+ you need CONFIG_DEVTMPFS which maybe causing the /dev/pts issue too..
[04:01] <Homefix> I tried every poss conception :(
[04:02] <Homefix> I even made jaunty could not get it to chroot
[04:02] <Homefix> i wrote to rsalveti maybe ill have luck
[04:03] <Homefix> Query is the way to message someone? im new to irc
[04:04] <Homefix> the premade is great however there is only 2G 3 much better
[04:06] <Homefix> Of coarse that was meant as -image 2G not 2g coverage ;)
[04:09] <Homefix> rcn-ee: by the way is this, CONFIG_DEVTMPFT somthing i can just throw in there
[04:09] <rcn-ee> no it's a userspace/kernel requirement of lucid... so IF you where able to make a working karmic image, but only LUCID/MAVERICK failed, that would be one thing to look into..
[04:10] <Homefix> no mav does the same thing
[04:11] <Homefix> ill just have to hope auther gets back
[04:12] <rcn-ee> well he's probally still asleep, about 80-90% of the developers on this list are in europe...
[04:12] <Homefix> awww lern smtng new each day
[04:16] <Homefix> i new what ping was by the way, i thought irc had some strange contact method or somthing haha
[04:22] <Homefix> now that i think about it i used the prebuilt image and do-release-upgrade to maveric and terminals worked fine just need bigger image 3G
[08:02] <sveinse> Anyone doing remote gdb debugging for armel/omap target?
[15:53] <Homefix1> Hi i was hoping you could help me with this problem:
[15:53] <Homefix1> I am using (on a dedicated ubuntu computer with Maverick edition)"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch" example to create a qemu image using "sudo rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G".
[15:53] <Homefix1> I have also used the "sudo project-rootstock/rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G"
[15:53] <Homefix1> and: "sudo ./rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G" way.
[15:53] <Homefix1> They all work great. I am able to load the image with qemu, got ssh setup and working alls great in life.
[15:53] <Homefix1> The problem lies HERE:(.......
[15:53] <Homefix1> I am using these images (mostly for fun), to setup ubuntu onto my Evo and Epic smartphones using this method: "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401" to chroot the image.
[15:53] <Homefix1> ITS AWSOME IT WORKS AND LOTS OF FUN!
[15:53] <Homefix1> well sorry for screaming but it really excites me this open source Ubuntu Stuff. (i am a win user, but I found a new toy)
[15:53] <Homefix1> Using the prebuilt image everything works excellent (except for the small image size 2G) that is why i need to use my 3G built image.
[15:53] <Homefix1> My problem: My built image works flawlessly as well, with one exception, (that i have noticed) is, inside ubuntu (on my phone chrooted with android) the terminals do not have a prompt# only black, square curser, and will not except input. I have to use the terminal program inside android to apt-get and such.
[15:53] <Homefix1> I have noticed with my build images, using apt-get during install, i see "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)"
[15:53] <Homefix1> error. My reserch says terminals wont work if system cannot write to /dev/pts.
[15:53] <Homefix1> The prebuilt image does not have this issue.
[16:23] <Martyn> Morning
[16:23] <Martyn> Has anyone here written network device drivers?
[16:23] <Martyn> I'
[16:23] <Martyn> I'm torn between using alloc_skb and netdev_alloc_skb
[16:30] <Martyn> (or now that I've found it, netdev_alloc_skb_ip_align() )
[17:03] <Homefix1> hello anyone listening i culd use some help with an ARM question?
[17:03] <topfs2> just ask
[17:04] <Homefix1> Ok
[17:04] <hrw> Homefix1: do not ask to ask but ask - gold rule of irc
[17:05] <Homefix1> Hi i was hoping you could help me with this problem:
[17:05] <Homefix1> I am using (on a dedicated ubuntu computer with Maverick edition)"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch" example to create a qemu image using "sudo rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G".
[17:05] <Homefix1> I have also used the "sudo project-rootstock/rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G"
[17:05] <Homefix1> and: "sudo ./rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G" way.
[17:05] <Homefix1> They all work great. I am able to load the image with qemu, got ssh setup and working alls great in life.
[17:05] <Homefix1> The problem lies HERE:(.......
[17:05] <Homefix1> I am using these images (mostly for fun), to setup ubuntu onto my Evo and Epic smartphones using this method: "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401" to chroot the image.
[17:05] <Homefix1> ITS AWSOME IT WORKS AND LOTS OF FUN!
[17:05] <Homefix1> well sorry for screaming but it really excites me this open source Ubuntu Stuff. (i am a win user, but I found a new toy)
[17:05] <Homefix1> Using the prebuilt image everything works excellent (except for the small image size 2G) that is why i need to use my 3G built image.
[17:05] <Homefix1> My problem: My built image works flawlessly as well, with one exception, (that i have noticed) is, inside ubuntu (on my phone chrooted with android) the terminals do not have a prompt# only black, square curser, and will not except input. I have to use the terminal program inside android to apt-get and such.
[17:05] <Homefix1> I have noticed with my build images, using apt-get during install, i see "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)"
[17:05] <Homefix1> error. My reserch says terminals wont work if system cannot write to /dev/pts.
[17:05] <Homefix1> The prebuilt image does not have this issue.
[17:08] <hrw> so mount it?
[17:18] <Homefix1> hrw: who are you talking to
[17:22] <Homefix1> when i try to mount /dev/pts I get "devpts already mounted or /dev/pts busy mount: according to mtab, devpts is already mounted on dev/pts
[17:26] <hrw> mounted it also inside of chroot?
[17:29] <Homefix1> the chroot scrips remain unchanged prebuilt "image" works however My "image" does not it lies within image no?
[17:31] <hrw> I do mount of /dev/pts /proc inside of chroot always
[17:33] <Homefix1> could you take a look at #modprobe ext2
[17:33] <Homefix1> Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401
[17:34] <Homefix1> I leave the script unchanged between images one is able to write to dev/pts other image does not same karmic build
[17:37] <Homefix> hur sorry lost my conn.
[17:37] <Homefix> Im back
[17:38] <Homefix> hrw: im back
[17:42] <Homefix> I have to reboot be back in 3min
[18:23] <Homefix1> hrw: sory are you with me?
[18:39] <Homefix1> I have this question anyone have some time to look? Scroll to my last post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10516800#post10516800
[20:16] <ogra> GrueMaster_, nilfs2-tools
[20:17] <ogra> GrueMaster_, http://www.nilfs.org/
[20:23] <Homefix1>  ogra: what is the differance between this "gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2" and "this "rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --dist karmic --notarball --imagesize 3G" I am having issues with my terminal and getting this error Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) do ya have a minute to look at this "http://forum.xda-developers.
[20:23] <Homefix1> com/showthread.php?t=881401" (scroll to the bottom)
[20:23] <Homefix1> Thanks
[20:32] <ogra> Homefix1, i have no idea, i guess you would have to ask gabrield (whoever that is)
[20:49] <Homefix1> ogra: no no this "http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2, is the prebuilt image offered here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch you dont know who made it? I only ask because you are the contact under article.
[20:49] <ogra> i dont know either, its not made by any ubuntu person
[20:49] <ogra> find out who that gabrield guy is and talk to him
[20:54] <Homefix> ogra: Im sorry i lost my connection could you repeat your answer if you did?
[20:54] <ogra> i dont know either what that image is, its not made by any ubuntu person
[20:54] <ogra> find out who that gabrield guy is and talk to him
[21:04] <Homefix> ogra: if you dont mind how do you fit in or what do you have do do your role with the article "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch"
[21:04] <ogra> i wrote rootstock initially and i initially created that wikipage (two years ago)
[21:05] <Homefix> i guess what im trying to ask is where did the image come from'
[21:05] <ogra> i didnt touch either of it since a year, rsalveti maintains the code now
[21:05] <ogra> but none of us has anything to do with the changes of the wikipage
[21:06] <ogra> according to the url you pasted above the image came from some brazilian guy named gabrield
[21:06] <ogra> (but thats something you can guess yourself by looking at it)
[21:09] <Homefix> ogra: were you able to read my long question i emailed to you i really would like to fix the "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" thing it really has nothing to do with gabriel anyway
[21:10] <ogra> no, thats likely your kernel missing bits
[21:10] <ogra> either devtmpfs or udev usually create this device
[21:11] <ogra> if your kernel lacks devtmpfs udev should care, make sure it is running ...
[21:11] <Homefix> kernel in image or in my android device i use the image with
[21:19] <Homefix> ogra: it doesnt make sense if my device is lacking bits it would not work for either image .Both karmic and if the image was modified in what direction should i look to find how to modify myself
[21:20] <ogra> compare /dev
[21:21] <Homefix> by the way i ment kernel on development machine not in the image
[21:21] <ogra> there surely is no kernel in the image
[21:21] <Homefix> corse not
[21:25] <Homefix> ogra: forgive me for being a newb can u tell me do you mean to compare /dev folders between images?
[21:26] <ogra> look at the contents
[21:26] <ogra> (of the /dev folders)
[21:28] <mwhudson> hello
[21:28] <mwhudson> can someone tell me anything interesting about the yaffs2 file system?
[21:29] <mwhudson> in particular what i have to do to be able to mount yaffs2 images on my laptop...
[21:30] <Homefix> ogra: i am using my chrooted with my built image using android terminal logged in typed cd /dev then ls got a lot of stuff
[21:30] <ogra> inside the chroot ?
[21:30] <Homefix> yes
[21:31] <Homefix> i have a ubuntu prompt
[21:31] <ogra> well, compare with the image
[21:31] <ogra> and see what the difference is
[21:31] <Homefix> root@localhost:/dev# is it actually
[21:32] <Homefix> and of corse you mean to run qemu gabriels image and look for differances?
[21:32] <Homefix> I hope
[21:33] <ogra> lool, could we have a chat about bug 623375 while we have face to face abilities ? it just hits us here
[21:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 623375 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Skipping the bootloader installation when creating rootfs or installation media (affects: 1) (heat: 27)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623375
[21:34] <ogra> Homefix, really, just compare the directory content of both /dev directories, if there is anything lacking in one, use MKDEV to create the device files
[21:35] <ogra> err
[21:35] <ogra> MAKEDEV
[21:35] <Homefix> You the person thnks
[21:40] <lool> ogra: Ok
[21:41] <lool> ogra: I'm in Lonestar III
[21:41] <ogra> ok, heading upstairs in 5
[23:05] <GrueMaster> ogra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/BugWorkflow
[23:18] <rsalveti> lol
[23:21] <Homefix> When i do MAKEDEV update i get "eval: 1: major_device-mapper=254: not found" the curser looks like its awaiting input or is it doing somthing its been a few minuts
[23:32] <ogra> did you read the manpage ?
[23:33] <Homefix> no Im a noob thnx
[23:37] <Homefix> Hi oqra there seems to be quite a bit missing in the dev folder between the two images however i have no clue how to put these device files back such as tty38 i know its a terminal device file or whatever but how do i get it from one image to the other