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AbhiJithey guys07:09
AbhiJiti should submit firefox but here at launchpad only or go to mozilla bugzilla?07:09
AbhiJitor both?07:09
AbhiJitbug*/07:09
AbhiJitrhyms - mozilla bugzilla!!! :)07:09
wolfpackWHen I try to run synaptic package manger ...it displays for few seconds then goes off.I tried to collect bug report for it using "ubuntu-bug synapitc" command but the same thing is happening with it also  ...Any help on it???12:44
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charlie-tcaI won't actually make today's meeting. I have a leaking washer machine to try and repair16:20
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gobbeleaking washer machines are horrible, i used to have one, it leaked while before i realized it and then it was too late, i needed to do little work after that to get everything fixed :-)16:51
hggdhhey micahg, got your coffee ;-)16:52
yofelo/16:56
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hggdhyofel: you like coffee?17:06
micahgmeeting anyone?17:06
yofelhggdh: from time to time sure ;)17:06
kamusinwho said coffee?17:06
* bdmurray is ready17:06
yofelhggdh: according to the wiki you're the chair, or did we decide on someone else?17:07
hggdhoh17:08
hggdhOK17:08
hggdh#startmeeting17:08
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan 11 17:08:29 2011 UTC.  The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.17:08
meetingologyUseful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.17:08
hggdhas usual, first on previous pending items17:09
hggdh[TOPIC] pending actions17:09
meetingologyTOPIC: pending actions17:09
hggdhany one such?17:09
micahghggdh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting17:09
bdmurrayBug Day to be created for regression-potential tags was one17:10
bdmurrayThis has not happened yet.  pedro_ is there an open day next week?17:10
pedro_bdmurray, yes, there's nothing planned for next week17:11
hggdhOK, we can go and schedule it for next week -- looking at regression-potential bugs *NOT* from kernel17:12
hggdhpedro ^17:12
bdmurrayyes, I'll add it to the schedule17:12
yofelhggdh: the kernel team wants to keep the tag?17:12
hggdhyofel: kernel is a different beast (hey JFo ;-), and they may need some special handling17:13
hggdhyofel: the tag *is* gone, all we need is cleanup17:13
JFohi there :-)17:13
yofelk, hey JFo17:14
JFohey yofel :)17:14
JFoI'm still hashing through all of those tagged bugs17:14
JFoso there are still some that need my attention17:14
hggdhJFo: OK. We will not touch them17:14
JFothanks17:15
JFoI have a plan in place... the holdup is just me implementing17:15
JFo:)17:15
hggdhnext pending: bdmurray to remove regression-potential as an official bug tag for Ubuntu17:15
bdmurrayDONE17:15
hggdhnext is hggdh to prepare a bug day excepting kernel17:15
hggdhheh. DONE (thanks pedro_ )17:15
hggdhnext is hggdh to clean up the Regression wiki pages17:16
hggdhI *think* this is done, partially by me, partially by jibel17:16
hggdhI will confirm, though17:16
hggdhnext is nigelb to edit bugsquad headers to be similar or link to each other appropriately17:16
hggdhnigelb: ^ any progress?17:16
hggdh(in paralel) next one is devildante to split HowToTriage page up into a simple page and an advanced page17:17
hggdhdevildante is MIA, so we postpone this one17:17
hggdhnext is devildante to start e-mail thread in mailing list about translations of bug reports17:17
bdmurrayit'd still be useful to get the HowToTriage page squared away17:18
bdmurraymaybe someone should email devildante?17:18
hggdhbdmurray: yes, I will do it17:18
hggdhthe translation action has been done, and we dod reach a decision on UDS for now17:18
bdmurrayhggdh: okay, great thanks!17:19
hggdh(we will steer non-English reporters to answers.lp.net17:19
hggdh)17:19
hggdhnext is GNOME3 bug handling <- micahg, I think you were taking care of that, correct?17:20
micahghmm, idr what the decision was17:20
bdmurrayI thought there was a special tag for them17:20
hggdhgnome3, correct?17:20
micahgbdmurray: did you say you'd add the tag?17:20
bdmurraymicahg: probably ;-)17:21
hggdhOK. nigelb seems to be MIA also17:22
hggdhso.17:22
hggdh[TOPIC] mentorship status reports17:22
meetingologyTOPIC: mentorship status reports17:22
yofelregarding special tags, charlie-tca pointed out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/651124/comments/15 a while ago - I'll send a mail to the list later17:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 651124 in Ubuntu Natty (and 3 other projects) "[needs-packaging] LibreOffice Productivity Suite (affects: 35) (heat: 204)" [Wishlist,In progress]17:22
bdmurrayIt doesn't look like I added it though17:23
gobbehow does the mentorship work, or is it out of scope of meeting?17:23
hggdhyes -- lo33, IIRC17:23
hggdhgobbe: we will give you pointers after the meeting17:24
gobbehggdh: thanks17:24
hggdhfrom my side: we added some 14 mentees to the mentorship alpha 1, and there has been a bit of movement in the ML17:25
hggdhmy two " dedicated17:25
hggdh" mentees: ojap pops in usually twice per week, EOD, and kangarooo is MIA17:25
hggdhso I propose to drop kangarooo completely17:26
hggdhany others here with mentees?17:26
hggdhso.17:26
hggdh[TOPIC] Open Discussions17:27
meetingologyTOPIC: Open Discussions17:27
hggdhplease raise your hand to be recognised17:27
hggdh\o17:27
hggdhhggdh: floor is yours17:27
gobbe\o17:27
hggdh(sorry, love it)17:27
gobbe:)17:27
bdmurrayoh, I've one thing17:28
hggdhI woulkd like to ask the folks here a bit of caution when providing options to (new) triagers:17:28
hggdhif one is already giving a course of action, please do not add more options -- a new triager will just get confused17:29
hggdhgobbe: floor is yours17:29
hggdhgobbe?17:30
gobbesorry, i forgot what i actually had in my mind, nothing big17:30
hggdhheh17:30
hggdhbdmurray: floor is yours17:30
bdmurrayhggdh: in irc or ...?17:30
gobbeif someone else has something give them time and i try to remember17:30
hggdhgobbe: no prob17:30
hggdhbdmurray: only on irc, methinks17:30
bdmurrayhggdh: okay, that makes sense we don't want to overwhelm a new person with the hundreds / thousands of possibilities17:31
bdmurrayso I'm working on some bugsquad hall-of-fame data and was curious what actions people thought might be interesting...17:33
hggdhhum17:33
bdmurraystuff like bug watches added, bugs triaged, descriptions modified17:33
hggdhhelping new triagers, upstreaming certainly, (correct) bugs triaged17:34
* yofel notes we already have a pretty unknown hall of fame http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/five-a-day/17:34
hggdhyofel: good one :-)17:34
bdmurrayhggdh: it'd need to be actions that show up on in bugs email17:34
bdmurrayyofel: ah, I'll create a data source for that too17:35
hggdhbdmurray: ack17:35
bdmurrayso if anybody has any ideas re: actions let me know17:36
yofelerm, vish is doing better than I ever imagined, esp. since he takes place 1 AND 2 on the daily stats o.O17:36
hggdhit would be nice, though, to measure (magically, I think) productive actions in the channel17:36
hggdhvish is a machine ;-)17:36
hggdhOK17:36
hggdhany others claiming space on the mic?17:37
yofelhard to measure though, or do you want to measure line count per day?17:37
hggdhyofel: no, not line count17:37
hggdhwe *could* start line-count, but with a check on contents17:37
bdmurrayhggdh: oh like "yofel just triaged 123456" ?17:38
hggdhhum. Why not?17:38
hggdhas we think of options, please do not forget to pass them over to bdmurray17:39
bdmurraymaybe just for high and critical bugs as everyone should know about those17:39
hggdhgood idea17:39
bdmurraybug xyz was just set to high by abc17:39
micahg+117:39
micahgbut, should that be in here or in -bugs-announce?17:39
bdmurrayand then see if we find it useful or not17:40
bdmurrayhere I think17:40
hggdhhere, I think17:40
bdmurrayjimx17:40
bdmurrayer jinx!17:40
hggdhheh17:40
hggdhSo... moving on17:40
evilvishhey..17:40
hggdhevilvish: go ahead17:40
evilvishso i was just looking at the ML subscriptions to the mentoring team17:40
evilvishand around 5 have not subscribed17:41
hggdhum17:41
evilvishcan we drop them?17:41
hggdhI think we should17:41
evilvishyea, we have 14 waiting17:41
hggdhbdmurray, pedro_ ?17:41
bdmurray+117:42
bdmurrayIf there are others to take their spot sure17:42
hggdhpedro_: agrees also (just verbally asked him), so... evilvish, we drop them17:43
evilvishcool! thx..17:43
hggdhevilvish: will you do it, or I?17:43
evilvishhggdh: i can do it.. but if you want to, its fine by me :)17:44
hggdh[TOPIC] Next Meeting and chair17:44
meetingologyTOPIC: Next Meeting and chair17:44
hggdhevilvish: no, go aheda ;-)17:44
evilvishk..17:44
hggdhnext weeting will be on Feb 8th @ 1700 UTC17:45
hggdhwe need a volunteer for the chair17:45
hggdhbdmurray?17:45
hggdhevilvish?17:45
bdmurrayhggdh: okay17:46
evilvishphew.. ;p17:46
hggdhK, before bdmurray thinks again...17:46
hggdh[ACTION] next weeting on Feb 08 @ 17:00 UTC, chaired by bdmurray17:46
meetingologyACTION: next weeting on Feb 08 @ 17:00 UTC, chaired by bdmurray17:46
hggdhand, with that,17:46
hggdh#endmeeting17:46
meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan 11 17:46:56 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)17:46
meetingologyMinutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-bugs/2011/ubuntu-bugs.2011-01-11-17.08.moin.txt17:46
hggdhthanks you all17:47
hggdhgobbe: please ask your question here (I will need a 5 min break, but the others can answer)17:47
hggdh(and the others will probably have better answers than mine ;-)17:47
gobbeyes, my question was about the mentoring and the other question was nothing important17:47
gobbei found solution with google :)17:48
evilvishyofel: one sad thing about those 5-a-day stats is, me crossing that again is gonna be very tough :s17:48
yofel:D17:48
crypt__a newb question: what is MIA?17:54
yofelmissing in action17:55
crypt__ok... thx17:55
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oooh_it's over :'(18:34
yofelhuh?18:35
yofeloooh_: oh, the meeting? You can still look at the logs18:35
oooh_thank!18:36
DrKenobiI'm late for the meeting?18:55
yofelwas 2h ago, see the logs18:55
DrKenobithanks yofel18:56
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njinHello to all20:17
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njinCan someone set this as triaged and importance low at bug 701160 for me. Thanks20:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 701160 in xterm (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/xterm is not functional in natty (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70116020:25
dreewillhow can i access the attachments generated by ubuntu-bug before they get uploaded?21:48
micahgdreewill: you could manually unpack the .crash file I think21:49
dreewilldo you know where i can find the .crash file?21:50
micahgdreewill: /var/crash21:52
dreewillmicahg: thx21:52

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