[07:09] <AbhiJit> hey guys
[07:09] <AbhiJit> i should submit firefox but here at launchpad only or go to mozilla bugzilla?
[07:09] <AbhiJit> or both?
[07:09] <AbhiJit> bug*/
[07:09] <AbhiJit> rhyms - mozilla bugzilla!!! :)
[12:44] <wolfpack> WHen I try to run synaptic package manger ...it displays for few seconds then goes off.I tried to collect bug report for it using "ubuntu-bug synapitc" command but the same thing is happening with it also  ...Any help on it???
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[14:19] <PaoloRotolo> Salve
[14:21] <gobbe> salve
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[16:20] <charlie-tca> I won't actually make today's meeting. I have a leaking washer machine to try and repair
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[16:51] <gobbe> leaking washer machines are horrible, i used to have one, it leaked while before i realized it and then it was too late, i needed to do little work after that to get everything fixed :-)
[16:52] <hggdh> hey micahg, got your coffee ;-)
[16:56] <yofel> o/
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[17:06] <hggdh> yofel: you like coffee?
[17:06] <micahg> meeting anyone?
[17:06] <yofel> hggdh: from time to time sure ;)
[17:06] <kamusin> who said coffee?
[17:06]  * bdmurray is ready
[17:07] <yofel> hggdh: according to the wiki you're the chair, or did we decide on someone else?
[17:08] <hggdh> oh
[17:08] <hggdh> OK
[17:08] <hggdh> #startmeeting
[17:08] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 11 17:08:29 2011 UTC.  The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
[17:08] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[17:09] <hggdh> as usual, first on previous pending items
[17:09] <hggdh> [TOPIC] pending actions
[17:09] <meetingology> TOPIC: pending actions
[17:09] <hggdh> any one such?
[17:09] <micahg> hggdh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting
[17:10] <bdmurray> Bug Day to be created for regression-potential tags was one
[17:10] <bdmurray> This has not happened yet.  pedro_ is there an open day next week?
[17:11] <pedro_> bdmurray, yes, there's nothing planned for next week
[17:12] <hggdh> OK, we can go and schedule it for next week -- looking at regression-potential bugs *NOT* from kernel
[17:12] <hggdh> pedro ^
[17:12] <bdmurray> yes, I'll add it to the schedule
[17:12] <yofel> hggdh: the kernel team wants to keep the tag?
[17:13] <hggdh> yofel: kernel is a different beast (hey JFo ;-), and they may need some special handling
[17:13] <hggdh> yofel: the tag *is* gone, all we need is cleanup
[17:13] <JFo> hi there :-)
[17:14] <yofel> k, hey JFo
[17:14] <JFo> hey yofel :)
[17:14] <JFo> I'm still hashing through all of those tagged bugs
[17:14] <JFo> so there are still some that need my attention
[17:14] <hggdh> JFo: OK. We will not touch them
[17:15] <JFo> thanks
[17:15] <JFo> I have a plan in place... the holdup is just me implementing
[17:15] <JFo> :)
[17:15] <hggdh> next pending: bdmurray to remove regression-potential as an official bug tag for Ubuntu
[17:15] <bdmurray> DONE
[17:15] <hggdh> next is hggdh to prepare a bug day excepting kernel
[17:15] <hggdh> heh. DONE (thanks pedro_ )
[17:16] <hggdh> next is hggdh to clean up the Regression wiki pages
[17:16] <hggdh> I *think* this is done, partially by me, partially by jibel
[17:16] <hggdh> I will confirm, though
[17:16] <hggdh> next is nigelb to edit bugsquad headers to be similar or link to each other appropriately
[17:16] <hggdh> nigelb: ^ any progress?
[17:17] <hggdh> (in paralel) next one is devildante to split HowToTriage page up into a simple page and an advanced page
[17:17] <hggdh> devildante is MIA, so we postpone this one
[17:17] <hggdh> next is devildante to start e-mail thread in mailing list about translations of bug reports
[17:18] <bdmurray> it'd still be useful to get the HowToTriage page squared away
[17:18] <bdmurray> maybe someone should email devildante?
[17:18] <hggdh> bdmurray: yes, I will do it
[17:18] <hggdh> the translation action has been done, and we dod reach a decision on UDS for now
[17:19] <bdmurray> hggdh: okay, great thanks!
[17:19] <hggdh> (we will steer non-English reporters to answers.lp.net
[17:19] <hggdh> )
[17:20] <hggdh> next is GNOME3 bug handling <- micahg, I think you were taking care of that, correct?
[17:20] <micahg> hmm, idr what the decision was
[17:20] <bdmurray> I thought there was a special tag for them
[17:20] <hggdh> gnome3, correct?
[17:20] <micahg> bdmurray: did you say you'd add the tag?
[17:21] <bdmurray> micahg: probably ;-)
[17:22] <hggdh> OK. nigelb seems to be MIA also
[17:22] <hggdh> so.
[17:22] <hggdh> [TOPIC] mentorship status reports
[17:22] <meetingology> TOPIC: mentorship status reports
[17:22] <yofel> regarding special tags, charlie-tca pointed out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/651124/comments/15 a while ago - I'll send a mail to the list later
[17:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 651124 in Ubuntu Natty (and 3 other projects) "[needs-packaging] LibreOffice Productivity Suite (affects: 35) (heat: 204)" [Wishlist,In progress]
[17:23] <bdmurray> It doesn't look like I added it though
[17:23] <gobbe> how does the mentorship work, or is it out of scope of meeting?
[17:23] <hggdh> yes -- lo33, IIRC
[17:24] <hggdh> gobbe: we will give you pointers after the meeting
[17:24] <gobbe> hggdh: thanks
[17:25] <hggdh> from my side: we added some 14 mentees to the mentorship alpha 1, and there has been a bit of movement in the ML
[17:25] <hggdh> my two " dedicated
[17:25] <hggdh> " mentees: ojap pops in usually twice per week, EOD, and kangarooo is MIA
[17:26] <hggdh> so I propose to drop kangarooo completely
[17:26] <hggdh> any others here with mentees?
[17:26] <hggdh> so.
[17:27] <hggdh> [TOPIC] Open Discussions
[17:27] <meetingology> TOPIC: Open Discussions
[17:27] <hggdh> please raise your hand to be recognised
[17:27] <hggdh> \o
[17:27] <hggdh> hggdh: floor is yours
[17:27] <gobbe> \o
[17:27] <hggdh> (sorry, love it)
[17:27] <gobbe> :)
[17:28] <bdmurray> oh, I've one thing
[17:28] <hggdh> I woulkd like to ask the folks here a bit of caution when providing options to (new) triagers:
[17:29] <hggdh> if one is already giving a course of action, please do not add more options -- a new triager will just get confused
[17:29] <hggdh> gobbe: floor is yours
[17:30] <hggdh> gobbe?
[17:30] <gobbe> sorry, i forgot what i actually had in my mind, nothing big
[17:30] <hggdh> heh
[17:30] <hggdh> bdmurray: floor is yours
[17:30] <bdmurray> hggdh: in irc or ...?
[17:30] <gobbe> if someone else has something give them time and i try to remember
[17:30] <hggdh> gobbe: no prob
[17:30] <hggdh> bdmurray: only on irc, methinks
[17:31] <bdmurray> hggdh: okay, that makes sense we don't want to overwhelm a new person with the hundreds / thousands of possibilities
[17:33] <bdmurray> so I'm working on some bugsquad hall-of-fame data and was curious what actions people thought might be interesting...
[17:33] <hggdh> hum
[17:33] <bdmurray> stuff like bug watches added, bugs triaged, descriptions modified
[17:34] <hggdh> helping new triagers, upstreaming certainly, (correct) bugs triaged
[17:34]  * yofel notes we already have a pretty unknown hall of fame http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/five-a-day/
[17:34] <hggdh> yofel: good one :-)
[17:34] <bdmurray> hggdh: it'd need to be actions that show up on in bugs email
[17:35] <bdmurray> yofel: ah, I'll create a data source for that too
[17:35] <hggdh> bdmurray: ack
[17:36] <bdmurray> so if anybody has any ideas re: actions let me know
[17:36] <yofel> erm, vish is doing better than I ever imagined, esp. since he takes place 1 AND 2 on the daily stats o.O
[17:36] <hggdh> it would be nice, though, to measure (magically, I think) productive actions in the channel
[17:36] <hggdh> vish is a machine ;-)
[17:36] <hggdh> OK
[17:37] <hggdh> any others claiming space on the mic?
[17:37] <yofel> hard to measure though, or do you want to measure line count per day?
[17:37] <hggdh> yofel: no, not line count
[17:37] <hggdh> we *could* start line-count, but with a check on contents
[17:38] <bdmurray> hggdh: oh like "yofel just triaged 123456" ?
[17:38] <hggdh> hum. Why not?
[17:39] <hggdh> as we think of options, please do not forget to pass them over to bdmurray
[17:39] <bdmurray> maybe just for high and critical bugs as everyone should know about those
[17:39] <hggdh> good idea
[17:39] <bdmurray> bug xyz was just set to high by abc
[17:39] <micahg> +1
[17:39] <micahg> but, should that be in here or in -bugs-announce?
[17:40] <bdmurray> and then see if we find it useful or not
[17:40] <bdmurray> here I think
[17:40] <hggdh> here, I think
[17:40] <bdmurray> jimx
[17:40] <bdmurray> er jinx!
[17:40] <hggdh> heh
[17:40] <hggdh> So... moving on
[17:40] <evilvish> hey..
[17:40] <hggdh> evilvish: go ahead
[17:40] <evilvish> so i was just looking at the ML subscriptions to the mentoring team
[17:41] <evilvish> and around 5 have not subscribed
[17:41] <hggdh> um
[17:41] <evilvish> can we drop them?
[17:41] <hggdh> I think we should
[17:41] <evilvish> yea, we have 14 waiting
[17:41] <hggdh> bdmurray, pedro_ ?
[17:42] <bdmurray> +1
[17:42] <bdmurray> If there are others to take their spot sure
[17:43] <hggdh> pedro_: agrees also (just verbally asked him), so... evilvish, we drop them
[17:43] <evilvish> cool! thx..
[17:43] <hggdh> evilvish: will you do it, or I?
[17:44] <evilvish> hggdh: i can do it.. but if you want to, its fine by me :)
[17:44] <hggdh> [TOPIC] Next Meeting and chair
[17:44] <meetingology> TOPIC: Next Meeting and chair
[17:44] <hggdh> evilvish: no, go aheda ;-)
[17:44] <evilvish> k..
[17:45] <hggdh> next weeting will be on Feb 8th @ 1700 UTC
[17:45] <hggdh> we need a volunteer for the chair
[17:45] <hggdh> bdmurray?
[17:45] <hggdh> evilvish?
[17:46] <bdmurray> hggdh: okay
[17:46] <evilvish> phew.. ;p
[17:46] <hggdh> K, before bdmurray thinks again...
[17:46] <hggdh> [ACTION] next weeting on Feb 08 @ 17:00 UTC, chaired by bdmurray
[17:46] <meetingology> ACTION: next weeting on Feb 08 @ 17:00 UTC, chaired by bdmurray
[17:46] <hggdh> and, with that,
[17:46] <hggdh> #endmeeting
[17:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 11 17:46:56 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)
[17:46] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-bugs/2011/ubuntu-bugs.2011-01-11-17.08.moin.txt
[17:47] <hggdh> thanks you all
[17:47] <hggdh> gobbe: please ask your question here (I will need a 5 min break, but the others can answer)
[17:47] <hggdh> (and the others will probably have better answers than mine ;-)
[17:47] <gobbe> yes, my question was about the mentoring and the other question was nothing important
[17:48] <gobbe> i found solution with google :)
[17:48] <evilvish> yofel: one sad thing about those 5-a-day stats is, me crossing that again is gonna be very tough :s
[17:48] <yofel> :D
[17:54] <crypt__> a newb question: what is MIA?
[17:55] <yofel> missing in action
[17:55] <crypt__> ok... thx
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[18:34] <oooh_> it's over :'(
[18:35] <yofel> huh?
[18:35] <yofel> oooh_: oh, the meeting? You can still look at the logs
[18:36] <oooh_> thank!
[18:55] <DrKenobi> I'm late for the meeting?
[18:55] <yofel> was 2h ago, see the logs
[18:56] <DrKenobi> thanks yofel
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[20:17] <njin> Hello to all
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[20:25] <njin> Can someone set this as triaged and importance low at bug 701160 for me. Thanks
[20:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 701160 in xterm (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/xterm is not functional in natty (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701160
[21:48] <dreewill> how can i access the attachments generated by ubuntu-bug before they get uploaded?
[21:49] <micahg> dreewill: you could manually unpack the .crash file I think
[21:50] <dreewill> do you know where i can find the .crash file?
[21:52] <micahg> dreewill: /var/crash
[21:52] <dreewill> micahg: thx