[13:43] <MagicFab> HI everyone - I'd like to invite anyone with LibreOffice - specific questions to come here: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/
[13:44] <MagicFab> txwikinger, matjan_work sipherdee if you have a few minutes you could ask a relevant question - this would get more action there, as I am trying to show its potential to as many as I can.
[13:44] <MagicFab> already 30+ people have joined but I need more Ubuntu experts / LibreOffice advocates :)
[15:27] <billybigrigger> mornin all
[16:22] <willwh> howdy
[19:15] <dougstew> Is there any one on here that really understands Grub. I have some questions.
[19:39] <dougstew> I guess the answer is no
[19:48] <johanbr> dougstew, what's your question?
[19:50] <dougstew> first a simple question: Using grub2   where is the list of kernels stored?
[19:52] <johanbr> it's not really stored, but it's built by a shell script in /etc/grub.d
[19:53] <dougstew> Ok there was one stord for grub1 wasn't there?
[19:54] <johanbr> yes
[19:56] <johanbr> what are you trying to do?
[19:59] <dougstew> Now for the real question     ---- when I triple boot   win.   ubuntu9.04  and ubuntu10.04 --- and Ubuntu 10.04 being the last one to install --- After running and updating 10.04, I now login to 9.04
[19:59] <dougstew> while running 9.04 it wants to update the software including
[19:59] <dougstew> the kernels
[20:00] <dougstew> what grub info will now be updated
[20:01] <dougstew> the grup on the master boot record will still be looking at the 10.04 partition
[20:05] <dougstew> johanbr:  any ideas?
[20:06] <johanbr> oh
[20:07] <dougstew> I know that with grub1 I had it totally mixed up, I am afraid to try it again untill I am sure what it will do.
[20:07] <johanbr> I guess you could put the grub 1 for 9.04 somewhere else and have the grub2 chainload grub1
[20:09] <dougstew> Are you saying that grub2 will not have a problem with two Ubuntus on two partitions?
[20:10] <johanbr> I don't think either grub has a problem with ubuntu on two partitions
[20:11] <johanbr> it's just that you have to tell them where the relevant grub is installed
[20:11] <dougstew> Well my experience is otherwise
[20:13] <dougstew> Ok I don't know what you mean by tell them
[20:14] <johanbr> configure the two grubs to tell them where they're installed
[20:15] <johanbr> but what was the problem you encountered?
[20:15] <johanbr> 9.04 wouldn't update the kernel list properly?
[20:15] <dougstew> Ok   but you have only 1 MBR
[20:16] <johanbr> yes, but you can put one grub somewhere else
[20:16] <johanbr> and have it loaded from the "master" grub
[20:17] <dougstew> before grub2   I had 2 versions of Ubuntu installed on 2 different partitions
[20:17] <dougstew> and when I updated the older one
[20:18] <dougstew> it change the list file on the second patiton
[20:18] <dougstew> but when i went to boot again the grub showed me the list from the first partition
[20:19] <dougstew> that did not have the kernals for the second partition
[20:19] <johanbr> right
[20:20] <dougstew> so I could not choose the newer kernel for the older ubuntu
[20:21] <johanbr> you'd have to install one grub somewhere else, and fiddle with the config of the other grub to chainload the first one
[20:21] <dougstew> That I don't know how to do
[20:22] <johanbr> yes, it might be more trouble than it's worth
[20:22] <johanbr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107487 says a few things about that
[20:22] <dougstew> I will read that    and thanks for your help
[20:23] <johanbr> you're welcome
[20:23] <johanbr> have to go, I'm afraid... good luck!
[20:25] <dougstew> It says     "so you need to manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst"   but with grub2 where is the menu.lst?
[22:42] <hypatia> o hai #ubuntu-ca!