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pittiStevenK: halp! still online?00:00
StevenKpitti: What's up?00:01
StevenKpitti: I'm in Presidente if you want to chat face-to-face.00:01
pittiStevenK: I published karmic-proposed's linux-ec2 to -updates and -security a while ago, and that worked on cocoplum00:01
pitti linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.23 | karmic-proposed | source00:01
pitti linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.23 | karmic-updates | source00:01
pittiStevenK: but it seems that never actually made it to archive.u.c.00:01
pittirmadison:00:01
pitti linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.22 | karmic-updates | source00:01
pitti linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.23 | karmic-proposed | source00:01
StevenKrmadion lags behind the archive by roughly 6 hours00:02
keespitti: what's up?00:02
keespitti: we just did the linux-ec2 publication00:02
StevenKUse madison on cocoplum if you want real up-to-minute data00:02
pittiright, but I did that last Wed or so00:02
keesI thought you'd said you did that, but it didn't look like it happened, so we just did it now.00:03
StevenKMaybe rmadison is broken :-(00:03
keeswhere $now == 1:10 ago00:03
pittikees: oh? ok, that'd explain it00:03
pittikees: weird, I was sure I copied it00:03
pittikees: so, thanks00:03
keespitti: sure thing. :) /me re-thanks jdstrand00:06
jdstrand\o/00:10
Keybukjdstrand: I haven't once this evening accidentally selected and deleted everything I'd just typed00:12
Keybuk\o/00:12
Keybukthanks for the use_tapping hint :p00:12
cjwatsontkamppeter: there isn't really a sensible package for reporting seed bugs.  ubuntu-meta is about the best I can do for you, but you could just tell me (or any core-dev) and we can fix it00:13
tkamppetercjwatson: Thanks. Please remove openprinting-ppds-extra from all seeds where it is still in. Its content moved to openprinting-ppds.00:22
tkamppeterdoko, thanks for approving jbig2dec to main.00:25
cjwatsontkamppeter: looks like Chuck Short / James Page did it just a few minutes ago.  However, please fix that transitional package so that it can actually be installed.  openprinting-ppds should have Conflicts: openprinting-ppds-extra (<< first-version-where-it-became-a-transitional-package) - the unversions Conflicts is a clear bug00:44
cjwatsontkamppeter: you can see it showing up in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html because of this00:44
cjwatsons/unversions/unversioned/00:44
* JackyAlcine be bracck01:01
Keybukugh, the big circle with an X in on a pidgin tab *DOES NOT* close the tab01:02
* Keybuk has an mpt moment01:02
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Kanohi, will somebody update libva to latest git?03:44
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ebroderman, it's really bizarre that so many people aren't in european/australian time zones this week07:40
JackyAlcinelol07:54
JackyAlcinehow do you cast a void* to a char* and avoid a segfault when cout'ing?07:55
ebroderJackyAlcine: this isn't a channel for general programming discussion. if you're building an app for ubuntu, you can try #ubuntu-app-devel, but you're probably better off looking for a C++ channel08:13
tsimpsonJackyAlcine: don't use char* ;)08:14
tsimpsonor void* for that matter08:14
ebroderyeah, the void* is more of the issue :)08:14
tsimpsonthere is a reason those C++ guys came up with std::string08:14
tsimpsonif you are using void pointers, you're probably doing something wrong08:15
JackyAlcineIt's not me, it's cURL!08:15
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tkamppetercjwatson, foomatic-db package updated.09:37
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tkamppeterAny linker expert around?10:47
geserwhat's your problem? (not that I'm an linker expert)10:51
JackyAlcineNeither am I.10:54
JackyAlcineBut I'm willing to help.10:54
JackyAlcinetkamppeter: Your issue?10:59
tkamppetertkamppeter, it is already done, I have found the solution. Thanks.11:00
JackyAlcineOh cool.11:00
JackyAlcineIf you want, you should post it on Ubuntu Forums, just so everyone else can know.11:00
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\shstgraber: ping12:08
anilgHi All.. how do I download all the files (dsc, changes, deb, tar.gz, .diff.gz) for a particular package. The task is to grab certain packages from the repo, and build a local repository12:15
anilgapt-get source --download-only only gets the source, and not the debs.12:15
ari-tczewanilg: there is no any script which does as you like. you have to download manually .deb files. sorry.12:23
anilghmm.. it seems like a regular operation..12:24
anilgWe did write a script (ndget) for use in the Nexenta project12:24
anilgit currently works for local repos12:25
anilgperhaps I need to enhance it to grab things over the network12:25
JackyAlcineperhaps ;)12:26
elifis there a repository to get all related sources for the ubuntu installer ?12:39
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elifwhat boot flag do I need to have a ssh server during the install ?12:52
cjwatsontkamppeter: thanks13:11
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hyperairhmm something seems wrong with launchpad's patch detection support.13:29
hyperairi upload a patch generated by debdiff and launchpad asks me if i've uploaded a patch because it apparently doesn't look like one13:29
Laney#launchpad13:31
freinhardjust disvocered that telepathy-sofiasip is not useable with empathy without gstreamer-ffmpeg and (in my case) gstreamer-alsa (deinstalled pulse, broke linphone)13:34
freinhardagains what do i need to file a bug? empathy? telepathy-sofiasip?13:34
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dholbachgood morning14:41
JackyAlcineMorning, dholbach :D14:41
ari-tczewplease sponsor this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/rhythmbox/rhythmbox-bugfixes-maverick/+merge/4355814:42
dholbachhey JackyAlcine14:42
dholbach\sh, happy birthday!14:46
\shdholbach: thank you :)14:54
highvoltagehey happy birthday \sh14:54
\shhighvoltage: thank you :)14:56
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jdstrand_@pilot in15:38
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hallyntseliot: hey, is there any ETA on a fix for the natty broadcom fail?  (I was told yesterday you're the one to ask :)15:42
rmrfslashI just updated kubuntu and it appears that the desktop is in a bad place. Everything is upside down, text backwards, window frames fragmented, etc. This is after the most recent update. I wanted to update to KDE 4.5.5. Seems that even installing ubuntu-desktop package doesn't fix this. Probably an intel driver issue or Xorg configuration issue. Something along those lines.15:42
tseliothallyn: I fixed it yesterday, well, unless it's a new issue15:42
hallyntseliot: hm, i upgraded this morning, no wireless yet...  lemme re-try15:44
tseliothallyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/70017615:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 700176 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "bcmwl bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu1 fails to build" [High,Fix released]15:44
rmrfslashI get through the login screen just fine, then everything is flipped upside down, backwards, etc. Buttons that should be on the bottom of window panels are on the top and you need to imagine where they should be and click blindly in that location.15:44
tseliothallyn: make sure you have version 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu215:44
hallyntseliot: <shrug> rebooted, and I have wireless!  thanks!15:55
tseliothallyn: np ;)15:56
om26erjdstrand_, around?16:08
om26erhttps://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/nautilus/nautilus-fix-683972/+merge/4584916:08
om26eractually https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/nautilus/nautilus-fix-68397216:09
SpamapSjhunt: 10:30 still good to discuss upstart events?16:11
jdstrand_om26er: hi! I am around16:11
jdstrand_om26er: let me look at it16:12
micahgjdstrand_: bug 695370, thanks16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 695370 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell binaries seem to have returned" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69537016:12
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micahgdoko: is a bug about someone complaining about libreoffice replacing openoffice useful at all (yes I know about the ubuntu-devel e-mail and will point the user to that)16:20
dokomicahg: just tag it with lo3316:21
micahgdoko: will do, thanks16:21
om26erjdstrand, building it locally?16:26
jdstrandom26er: possibly, got sidetracked for a moment but am pulling the branch now16:28
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jdstrandSpamapS: hi! if you'd like, I can review your merge request for bug #343870 this morning if you update the changelog as requesting in the last comment of the merge request16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 343870 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu Karmic) "php-cli segmentation fault with mysql extension" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34387016:33
jdstrands/requesting/requested/16:33
SpamapSjdstrand: Right I've been putting that off for far too long.16:33
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tokeefeI'll file a bug report, but my troubles appear to have resulted from the latest Intel driver update. Must have been rolled out within the last week. Here's a screenshot of the effect http://oi56.tinypic.com/4q261u.jpg   I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) according to lspci/lshw16:49
cjwatsonKeybuk: mind if I steal the "Fix Plymouth to cope with framebuffer mode change" work item from you?16:59
Keybukoh, I thought you already had16:59
Keybukafter all, you very definitely touched plymouth last17:00
cjwatsonheh, only trivially :)17:00
cjwatson(as far as stuff that's actually landed in the archive goes, anyway)17:01
cjwatsonreassigned the WI17:01
siretartdoko: I hope you don't mind that I subscribed you to bug #70149217:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 701492 in doxygen (Ubuntu) "doxygen's latex output requires sectsty.sty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70149217:07
dokosiretart: should be fixed with recent doxygen17:09
siretartdoko: you mean with upstream release 1.7.4?17:09
dokosiretart: no, dependencies changed17:10
siretartdoko: oh, I'm not talking about your added latex-xcolor.sty dependency. the sectsty.sty is a similar, but additional issue17:10
ogracjwatson, whats the likelyness of btrfs as default in natty ? (i'm thinking about the preinstalled arm images and the possible advantages of using the SSD mode on SD cards)17:17
elifcjwatson: when partman finish its job, how exactly the next stage (five:installing the target system) occurs, cause if I want to skip partman, maybe I just would use a hack to fake it had ran. Thks in advance17:19
jdstrandom26er: uploaded. thanks for your work on this!17:20
cjwatsonogra: I'm not expecting to ship it by default on x86 architectures; as far as I'm concerned, what you do for the preinstalled arm images is independent of that17:20
cjwatsonelif: you could write a dummy /var/lib/dpkg/info/partman-base.postinst that does whatever partitioning you want and mounts /target and whichever extra mounts you have under that17:21
om26erjdstrand, thanks for the upload, if you have the time, i have an approved merge request too :D17:21
jdstrandom26er: yeah, the rhythmbox one. I am already looking at it17:21
om26eronly a core-dev needed to upload17:21
om26eroh nice17:22
ari-tczewpitti: ping17:28
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ari-tczewRiddell: approval from ubuntu-sru? I thought that it's gone17:31
Riddellari-tczew: what?17:31
ari-tczewRiddell: bug 65348017:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 653480 in python-django-piston (Ubuntu Maverick) "broken dependencies" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65348017:31
Riddell0.2.2-1ubuntu0.1 is in maverick-proposed unapproved queue17:32
Riddellit needs the three items I said on the bug to get accepted17:32
ari-tczewRiddell: hmm, policy has been changed some months ago17:33
quadrisprohi all!17:33
ari-tczewnow needs only sponsor17:33
ari-tczewhi quadrispro17:33
ari-tczewpitti accepts without any ACK from ubuntu-sru17:34
ari-tczew(I know, he is a member)17:34
micahgari-tczew: you need the test case though17:34
ari-tczewmicahg: o rly? It is in the bug, just without header" TEST CASE"17:34
micahgari-tczew: right, it needs to be in the description and clearly visible17:34
ari-tczewmicahg: I'm very curious whether you're that very pedantic in every case.17:35
micahgI always add the test case to teh description with a header, it's step 2 of the SRU procedure17:36
LaneyI don't think policy has changed, stuff is just reviewed in the queue now17:37
cjwatsonari-tczew: you've been replying to merge requests commenting that sentences should end with a dot, so I thought you would respect pedantry :-)17:37
Laneyas opposed to pre-approval we had in universe before17:37
ari-tczewcjwatson: it's true17:38
ari-tczewto all: very restrictive policy is killing willigness to contributing17:41
micahgjdstrand: bug 695728 for sponsorship, thanks17:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 695728 in gnome-python-extras (Debian) "python-gtkmozembed should depend on xulrunner" [Unknown,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69572817:42
ari-tczewRiddell: debdiff - you have branch17:42
ari-tczewin the bug17:42
ari-tczewplease don't say that I have to create a debdiff - I'll laugh17:42
Riddellok, says so in the bug17:43
ari-tczewRiddell: couldn't you find it before commenting? do I have to comment everything?17:44
Riddellari-tczew: I didn't see it, so maybe others won't either17:44
micahgari-tczew: as sponsor, you should make sure that the SRU procedures are followed before uploading (assuming you uploaded it)17:48
ari-tczewmicahg: wow, you're very perceptive! that's right, I uploaded it because it's very trivial bugfix and there is no much philosophy to reproduce17:49
micahgari-tczew: then the test case should be easy to write :)17:50
micahgjdstrand: unping for sponsorship of bug 69572817:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 695728 in gnome-python-extras (Debian) "python-gtkmozembed should depend on xulrunner" [Unknown,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69572817:51
* micahg forgot that there's a -desktop branch for it now17:51
micahgchrisccoulson: can you sponsor the above ^^17:52
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SpamapSjdstrand: I updated the karmic mysql update17:53
ari-tczewRiddell: for future: there are only 2 ways to give a patch - bzr and debdiff and I think so that is easy to find. end of topic.17:53
SpamapSusing recommendations from the Department of Redundancy Dept.17:53
shadeslayerjono: pokety poke17:53
shadeslayerjono: http://developer.ubuntu.com/create/ << Point 1 has a formatting error : "for new application ... " -> "For new application"17:54
ari-tczewmicahg: here we go. test case is exist. now you can stimulate your senses.17:55
micahgari-tczew: not for me, for you :)17:56
ogracjwatson, is the blocking based on immaturity of btrfs or on any external factors (i.e. grub2) that wouldnt affect arm ?17:57
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, sure. will do that in a bit17:57
micahgchrisccoulson: thanks17:59
SpamapSzr18:01
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pittiari-tczew: hi18:04
pittiari-tczew: no, the pre-upload approval on the bug is gone (as a mandatory thing)18:04
pittiari-tczew: but ~ubuntu-sru still of course reviews the diffs and bugs18:05
pittibut after the upload18:05
pitti(usually)18:05
ari-tczewpitti: so what I did wrong on bug 653480 ?18:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 653480 in python-django-piston (Ubuntu Maverick) "broken dependencies" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65348018:06
pittiari-tczew: nothing, except for the missing test case maybe (if it's not obvious)18:06
ari-tczewpitti: so what18:06
pittiari-tczew: Riddell just isn't in ~u-sru and thus doesn't ack SRUs by himself18:07
pittiari-tczew: so that'll need to wait until I get to review the queue18:07
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pittiRiddell helps out by accepting approved SRUs (thanks!)18:07
ari-tczewpitti: ok18:07
pittiRiddell: FYI, debdiffs are now also fairly optinal, as LP generates them from the upload queue18:08
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Riddellpitti: where's that?18:10
Riddellbdmurray: did you really mean to reopen bug 68401 ?18:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 68401 in lighttpd (Ubuntu Dapper) "Cannot remove the lighttpd pkg from Edgy Eft" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6840118:11
bdmurrayRiddell: looking18:12
pittiRiddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= and open the expander18:13
pittiRiddell: "diff from ... to ..."18:13
pittiRiddell: that's what the queuediff tool downloads and displays18:14
Riddellpitti: nifty18:16
bdmurrayRiddell: fixed, thanks18:20
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cjwatsonogra: grub2 supports btrfs now.  I'm more worried about things like btrfs' disk utilisation, which I hear is still not great (but I freely admit to not having checked for a while)18:27
ograhmm, that would bite us on SD cards for sure18:27
ograthanks !18:27
ari-tczewpitti: could you look how to handle that SRU? https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/karmic/mysql-dfsg-5.1/mysql-sru-343870/+merge/4266718:41
crissihello. i have a problem with dm-multipath. it fails with "error adding target to table" errors in initrd when rootfs is readonly but made readwrite with aufs.18:44
crissimultipath -d shows my path fine but they cant added to the devicemapper target list because dm has failed18:44
tetsuo__hello18:59
tetsuo__i've run into a bug with samba, that appears to be fixed upstream18:59
tetsuo__its this bug http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-987-118:59
tetsuo__oops18:59
tetsuo__sorr18:59
tetsuo__this one https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=65172218:59
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 651722 in samba3x "All samba versions before 3.5.6 fail to "smbclient" to Win7 with Live Essentials" [High,Verified]18:59
tetsuo__i want to know what needs to be done in order to get either samba updated, or just that patch backported for ubuntu 10.1019:00
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ebroder!sru | tetsuo__19:01
ubottutetsuo__: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates19:01
ebrodertetsuo__: you need to file a bug and run it through the procedure on that page19:02
tetsuo__will do thank you19:02
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ari-tczewpitti: is there any way to join ubuntu-sru?19:11
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* JackyAlcine is all caught up. ;D19:24
ebroderJackyAlcine: there's not really any need to post status messages to all of the channels you're joined to19:24
JackyAlcineSorry, ebroder.19:27
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cragdorHi Guys, anyone aware of a GTS250 id 10de:0615, having issues with Ubuntu 10.10 (eg nvidia probe failed)21:08
slangasekSpamapS: ping21:10
slangasekSpamapS: unping21:12
dokowgrant: ping21:20
SpamapSslangasek: thanks :)21:22
diwic+21:24
diwic-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------21:24
diwic-21:25
ograhmm, does anyone know why update-initramfs -c doesnt take care for bootloader setup while -u does ?21:27
ograthat seems like a bad bug to me21:27
ogra(the run_bootloader function is never run if the -c arg is used)21:28
* diwic makes a note not to push any keys when carrying the laptop around ;-)21:29
ogradiwic, oh, i thought that was a deliberate attempt of ascii art21:31
ograoh, disregard my cmplaint above, seems cjwatson already proposed a solution in bug 62337521:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 623375 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Skipping the bootloader installation when creating rootfs or installation media" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62337521:37
ogra(i guess i'll just have to implement it :) )21:37
jelmerNCommander: hi21:44
NCommander jelmer hi21:44
jelmerNCommander: I hear you're interested in discussing bzr-builddeb - I'd be happy to come by the ARM room to discuss it.21:45
jelmerNCommander: When would be a good time - now?21:45
NCommanderjelmer: that would be good21:46
cyrilHello all,21:48
cyril I am running eclipse under ubuntu and started a php project using symfony with doctrine. I would like an advice on which visual modelling tool to use in order to generate yaml files for doctrine...21:48
cyrilin other words, I want to visually design my database model and then translate it into doctrine yaml files.. What is the most appropriate tool, maybe an eclipse plugin?21:48
micahg!support | cyril21:48
ubottucyril: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only.21:48
pittiStevenK: do you know why this says "no packages copied?21:51
pitticopy-package.py -s hardy -p canonical-kernel-team --ppa-name=ppa -b  --to-suite=hardy-proposed linux21:51
pittiStevenK: the package there is newer than the one in hardy-updates, and it's not yet in -proposed21:52
pittiStevenK: I did similar things for lucid, karmic, maverick, etc, and it worked21:52
pittisconklin: ^ (FYI)21:52
StevenKI suspect because the hardy kernel data is broken21:52
StevenKpitti: One of hardy's kernels was uploaded was a different orig, and due to a bug was accepted. So now hardy's kernel has two origs :-(21:53
pittiStevenK: is there anything I (or sconklin) can do about this?21:54
StevenKpitti: Leave it with me, I'd like to consult my external memory (wgrant)21:55
pittiStevenK: thanks21:55
wgrantStevenK: We normally fix that by temporarily cowboying out the hash check.22:07
wgrantStevenK: However, we should now have a new solution.22:07
StevenKwgrant: We should?22:09
wgrantStevenK: I think we may be able to expire the old orig.tar.gz.22:09
wgrantAnd things will work.22:09
StevenKAwesome. Let's.22:09
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pittiStevenK: server down, so I lost backscroll23:48
StevenKpitti: Is fine, the command line was in backscroll23:49
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