[00:00] <pitti> StevenK: halp! still online?
[00:01] <StevenK> pitti: What's up?
[00:01] <StevenK> pitti: I'm in Presidente if you want to chat face-to-face.
[00:01] <pitti> StevenK: I published karmic-proposed's linux-ec2 to -updates and -security a while ago, and that worked on cocoplum
[00:01] <pitti>  linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.23 | karmic-proposed | source
[00:01] <pitti>  linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.23 | karmic-updates | source
[00:01] <pitti> StevenK: but it seems that never actually made it to archive.u.c.
[00:01] <pitti> rmadison:
[00:01] <pitti>  linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.22 | karmic-updates | source
[00:01] <pitti>  linux-ec2 | 2.6.31-307.23 | karmic-proposed | source
[00:02] <StevenK> rmadion lags behind the archive by roughly 6 hours
[00:02] <kees> pitti: what's up?
[00:02] <kees> pitti: we just did the linux-ec2 publication
[00:02] <StevenK> Use madison on cocoplum if you want real up-to-minute data
[00:02] <pitti> right, but I did that last Wed or so
[00:03] <kees> I thought you'd said you did that, but it didn't look like it happened, so we just did it now.
[00:03] <StevenK> Maybe rmadison is broken :-(
[00:03] <kees> where $now == 1:10 ago
[00:03] <pitti> kees: oh? ok, that'd explain it
[00:03] <pitti> kees: weird, I was sure I copied it
[00:03] <pitti> kees: so, thanks
[00:06] <kees> pitti: sure thing. :) /me re-thanks jdstrand
[00:10] <jdstrand> \o/
[00:12] <Keybuk> jdstrand: I haven't once this evening accidentally selected and deleted everything I'd just typed
[00:12] <Keybuk> \o/
[00:12] <Keybuk> thanks for the use_tapping hint :p
[00:13] <cjwatson> tkamppeter: there isn't really a sensible package for reporting seed bugs.  ubuntu-meta is about the best I can do for you, but you could just tell me (or any core-dev) and we can fix it
[00:22] <tkamppeter> cjwatson: Thanks. Please remove openprinting-ppds-extra from all seeds where it is still in. Its content moved to openprinting-ppds.
[00:25] <tkamppeter> doko, thanks for approving jbig2dec to main.
[00:44] <cjwatson> tkamppeter: looks like Chuck Short / James Page did it just a few minutes ago.  However, please fix that transitional package so that it can actually be installed.  openprinting-ppds should have Conflicts: openprinting-ppds-extra (<< first-version-where-it-became-a-transitional-package) - the unversions Conflicts is a clear bug
[00:44] <cjwatson> tkamppeter: you can see it showing up in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html because of this
[00:44] <cjwatson> s/unversions/unversioned/
[01:01]  * JackyAlcine be bracck
[01:02] <Keybuk> ugh, the big circle with an X in on a pidgin tab *DOES NOT* close the tab
[01:02]  * Keybuk has an mpt moment
[03:44] <Kano> hi, will somebody update libva to latest git?
[07:40] <ebroder> man, it's really bizarre that so many people aren't in european/australian time zones this week
[07:54] <JackyAlcine> lol
[07:55] <JackyAlcine> how do you cast a void* to a char* and avoid a segfault when cout'ing?
[08:13] <ebroder> JackyAlcine: this isn't a channel for general programming discussion. if you're building an app for ubuntu, you can try #ubuntu-app-devel, but you're probably better off looking for a C++ channel
[08:14] <tsimpson> JackyAlcine: don't use char* ;)
[08:14] <tsimpson> or void* for that matter
[08:14] <ebroder> yeah, the void* is more of the issue :)
[08:14] <tsimpson> there is a reason those C++ guys came up with std::string
[08:15] <tsimpson> if you are using void pointers, you're probably doing something wrong
[08:15] <JackyAlcine> It's not me, it's cURL!
[09:37] <tkamppeter> cjwatson, foomatic-db package updated.
[10:47] <tkamppeter> Any linker expert around?
[10:51] <geser> what's your problem? (not that I'm an linker expert)
[10:54] <JackyAlcine> Neither am I.
[10:54] <JackyAlcine> But I'm willing to help.
[10:59] <JackyAlcine> tkamppeter: Your issue?
[11:00] <tkamppeter> tkamppeter, it is already done, I have found the solution. Thanks.
[11:00] <JackyAlcine> Oh cool.
[11:00] <JackyAlcine> If you want, you should post it on Ubuntu Forums, just so everyone else can know.
[12:08] <\sh> stgraber: ping
[12:15] <anilg> Hi All.. how do I download all the files (dsc, changes, deb, tar.gz, .diff.gz) for a particular package. The task is to grab certain packages from the repo, and build a local repository
[12:15] <anilg> apt-get source --download-only only gets the source, and not the debs.
[12:23] <ari-tczew> anilg: there is no any script which does as you like. you have to download manually .deb files. sorry.
[12:24] <anilg> hmm.. it seems like a regular operation..
[12:24] <anilg> We did write a script (ndget) for use in the Nexenta project
[12:25] <anilg> it currently works for local repos
[12:25] <anilg> perhaps I need to enhance it to grab things over the network
[12:26] <JackyAlcine> perhaps ;)
[12:39] <elif> is there a repository to get all related sources for the ubuntu installer ?
[12:52] <elif> what boot flag do I need to have a ssh server during the install ?
[13:11] <cjwatson> tkamppeter: thanks
[13:29] <hyperair> hmm something seems wrong with launchpad's patch detection support.
[13:29] <hyperair> i upload a patch generated by debdiff and launchpad asks me if i've uploaded a patch because it apparently doesn't look like one
[13:31] <Laney> #launchpad
[13:34] <freinhard> just disvocered that telepathy-sofiasip is not useable with empathy without gstreamer-ffmpeg and (in my case) gstreamer-alsa (deinstalled pulse, broke linphone)
[13:34] <freinhard> agains what do i need to file a bug? empathy? telepathy-sofiasip?
[14:41] <dholbach> good morning
[14:41] <JackyAlcine> Morning, dholbach :D
[14:42] <ari-tczew> please sponsor this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/rhythmbox/rhythmbox-bugfixes-maverick/+merge/43558
[14:42] <dholbach> hey JackyAlcine
[14:46] <dholbach> \sh, happy birthday!
[14:54] <\sh> dholbach: thank you :)
[14:54] <highvoltage> hey happy birthday \sh
[14:56] <\sh> highvoltage: thank you :)
[15:38] <jdstrand_> @pilot in
[15:42] <hallyn> tseliot: hey, is there any ETA on a fix for the natty broadcom fail?  (I was told yesterday you're the one to ask :)
[15:42] <rmrfslash> I just updated kubuntu and it appears that the desktop is in a bad place. Everything is upside down, text backwards, window frames fragmented, etc. This is after the most recent update. I wanted to update to KDE 4.5.5. Seems that even installing ubuntu-desktop package doesn't fix this. Probably an intel driver issue or Xorg configuration issue. Something along those lines.
[15:42] <tseliot> hallyn: I fixed it yesterday, well, unless it's a new issue
[15:44] <hallyn> tseliot: hm, i upgraded this morning, no wireless yet...  lemme re-try
[15:44] <tseliot> hallyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/700176
[15:44] <rmrfslash> I get through the login screen just fine, then everything is flipped upside down, backwards, etc. Buttons that should be on the bottom of window panels are on the top and you need to imagine where they should be and click blindly in that location.
[15:44] <tseliot> hallyn: make sure you have version 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu2
[15:55] <hallyn> tseliot: <shrug> rebooted, and I have wireless!  thanks!
[15:56] <tseliot> hallyn: np ;)
[16:08] <om26er> jdstrand_, around?
[16:08] <om26er> https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/nautilus/nautilus-fix-683972/+merge/45849
[16:09] <om26er> actually https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/maverick/nautilus/nautilus-fix-683972
[16:11] <SpamapS> jhunt: 10:30 still good to discuss upstart events?
[16:11] <jdstrand_> om26er: hi! I am around
[16:12] <jdstrand_> om26er: let me look at it
[16:12] <micahg> jdstrand_: bug 695370, thanks
[16:20] <micahg> doko: is a bug about someone complaining about libreoffice replacing openoffice useful at all (yes I know about the ubuntu-devel e-mail and will point the user to that)
[16:21] <doko> micahg: just tag it with lo33
[16:21] <micahg> doko: will do, thanks
[16:26] <om26er> jdstrand, building it locally?
[16:28] <jdstrand> om26er: possibly, got sidetracked for a moment but am pulling the branch now
[16:33] <jdstrand> SpamapS: hi! if you'd like, I can review your merge request for bug #343870 this morning if you update the changelog as requesting in the last comment of the merge request
[16:33] <jdstrand> s/requesting/requested/
[16:33] <SpamapS> jdstrand: Right I've been putting that off for far too long.
[16:49] <tokeefe> I'll file a bug report, but my troubles appear to have resulted from the latest Intel driver update. Must have been rolled out within the last week. Here's a screenshot of the effect http://oi56.tinypic.com/4q261u.jpg   I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) according to lspci/lshw
[16:59] <cjwatson> Keybuk: mind if I steal the "Fix Plymouth to cope with framebuffer mode change" work item from you?
[16:59] <Keybuk> oh, I thought you already had
[17:00] <Keybuk> after all, you very definitely touched plymouth last
[17:00] <cjwatson> heh, only trivially :)
[17:01] <cjwatson> (as far as stuff that's actually landed in the archive goes, anyway)
[17:01] <cjwatson> reassigned the WI
[17:07] <siretart> doko: I hope you don't mind that I subscribed you to bug #701492
[17:09] <doko> siretart: should be fixed with recent doxygen
[17:09] <siretart> doko: you mean with upstream release 1.7.4?
[17:10] <doko> siretart: no, dependencies changed
[17:10] <siretart> doko: oh, I'm not talking about your added latex-xcolor.sty dependency. the sectsty.sty is a similar, but additional issue
[17:17] <ogra> cjwatson, whats the likelyness of btrfs as default in natty ? (i'm thinking about the preinstalled arm images and the possible advantages of using the SSD mode on SD cards)
[17:19] <elif> cjwatson: when partman finish its job, how exactly the next stage (five:installing the target system) occurs, cause if I want to skip partman, maybe I just would use a hack to fake it had ran. Thks in advance
[17:20] <jdstrand> om26er: uploaded. thanks for your work on this!
[17:20] <cjwatson> ogra: I'm not expecting to ship it by default on x86 architectures; as far as I'm concerned, what you do for the preinstalled arm images is independent of that
[17:21] <cjwatson> elif: you could write a dummy /var/lib/dpkg/info/partman-base.postinst that does whatever partitioning you want and mounts /target and whichever extra mounts you have under that
[17:21] <om26er> jdstrand, thanks for the upload, if you have the time, i have an approved merge request too :D
[17:21] <jdstrand> om26er: yeah, the rhythmbox one. I am already looking at it
[17:21] <om26er> only a core-dev needed to upload
[17:22] <om26er> oh nice
[17:28] <ari-tczew> pitti: ping
[17:31] <ari-tczew> Riddell: approval from ubuntu-sru? I thought that it's gone
[17:31] <Riddell> ari-tczew: what?
[17:31] <ari-tczew> Riddell: bug 653480
[17:32] <Riddell> 0.2.2-1ubuntu0.1 is in maverick-proposed unapproved queue
[17:32] <Riddell> it needs the three items I said on the bug to get accepted
[17:33] <ari-tczew> Riddell: hmm, policy has been changed some months ago
[17:33] <quadrispro> hi all!
[17:33] <ari-tczew> now needs only sponsor
[17:33] <ari-tczew> hi quadrispro
[17:34] <ari-tczew> pitti accepts without any ACK from ubuntu-sru
[17:34] <ari-tczew> (I know, he is a member)
[17:34] <micahg> ari-tczew: you need the test case though
[17:34] <ari-tczew> micahg: o rly? It is in the bug, just without header" TEST CASE"
[17:34] <micahg> ari-tczew: right, it needs to be in the description and clearly visible
[17:35] <ari-tczew> micahg: I'm very curious whether you're that very pedantic in every case.
[17:36] <micahg> I always add the test case to teh description with a header, it's step 2 of the SRU procedure
[17:37] <Laney> I don't think policy has changed, stuff is just reviewed in the queue now
[17:37] <cjwatson> ari-tczew: you've been replying to merge requests commenting that sentences should end with a dot, so I thought you would respect pedantry :-)
[17:37] <Laney> as opposed to pre-approval we had in universe before
[17:38] <ari-tczew> cjwatson: it's true
[17:41] <ari-tczew> to all: very restrictive policy is killing willigness to contributing
[17:42] <micahg> jdstrand: bug 695728 for sponsorship, thanks
[17:42] <ari-tczew> Riddell: debdiff - you have branch
[17:42] <ari-tczew> in the bug
[17:42] <ari-tczew> please don't say that I have to create a debdiff - I'll laugh
[17:43] <Riddell> ok, says so in the bug
[17:44] <ari-tczew> Riddell: couldn't you find it before commenting? do I have to comment everything?
[17:44] <Riddell> ari-tczew: I didn't see it, so maybe others won't either
[17:48] <micahg> ari-tczew: as sponsor, you should make sure that the SRU procedures are followed before uploading (assuming you uploaded it)
[17:49] <ari-tczew> micahg: wow, you're very perceptive! that's right, I uploaded it because it's very trivial bugfix and there is no much philosophy to reproduce
[17:50] <micahg> ari-tczew: then the test case should be easy to write :)
[17:51] <micahg> jdstrand: unping for sponsorship of bug 695728
[17:51]  * micahg forgot that there's a -desktop branch for it now
[17:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: can you sponsor the above ^^
[17:53] <SpamapS> jdstrand: I updated the karmic mysql update
[17:53] <ari-tczew> Riddell: for future: there are only 2 ways to give a patch - bzr and debdiff and I think so that is easy to find. end of topic.
[17:53] <SpamapS> using recommendations from the Department of Redundancy Dept.
[17:53] <shadeslayer> jono: pokety poke
[17:54] <shadeslayer> jono: http://developer.ubuntu.com/create/ << Point 1 has a formatting error : "for new application ... " -> "For new application"
[17:55] <ari-tczew> micahg: here we go. test case is exist. now you can stimulate your senses.
[17:56] <micahg> ari-tczew: not for me, for you :)
[17:57] <ogra> cjwatson, is the blocking based on immaturity of btrfs or on any external factors (i.e. grub2) that wouldnt affect arm ?
[17:57] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, sure. will do that in a bit
[17:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[18:01] <SpamapS> zr
[18:01] <SpamapS> ls
[18:04] <pitti> ari-tczew: hi
[18:04] <pitti> ari-tczew: no, the pre-upload approval on the bug is gone (as a mandatory thing)
[18:05] <pitti> ari-tczew: but ~ubuntu-sru still of course reviews the diffs and bugs
[18:05] <pitti> but after the upload
[18:05] <pitti> (usually)
[18:06] <ari-tczew> pitti: so what I did wrong on bug 653480 ?
[18:06] <pitti> ari-tczew: nothing, except for the missing test case maybe (if it's not obvious)
[18:06] <ari-tczew> pitti: so what
[18:07] <pitti> ari-tczew: Riddell just isn't in ~u-sru and thus doesn't ack SRUs by himself
[18:07] <pitti> ari-tczew: so that'll need to wait until I get to review the queue
[18:07] <pitti> Riddell helps out by accepting approved SRUs (thanks!)
[18:07] <ari-tczew> pitti: ok
[18:08] <pitti> Riddell: FYI, debdiffs are now also fairly optinal, as LP generates them from the upload queue
[18:10] <Riddell> pitti: where's that?
[18:11] <Riddell> bdmurray: did you really mean to reopen bug 68401 ?
[18:12] <bdmurray> Riddell: looking
[18:13] <pitti> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= and open the expander
[18:13] <pitti> Riddell: "diff from ... to ..."
[18:14] <pitti> Riddell: that's what the queuediff tool downloads and displays
[18:16] <Riddell> pitti: nifty
[18:20] <bdmurray> Riddell: fixed, thanks
[18:27] <cjwatson> ogra: grub2 supports btrfs now.  I'm more worried about things like btrfs' disk utilisation, which I hear is still not great (but I freely admit to not having checked for a while)
[18:27] <ogra> hmm, that would bite us on SD cards for sure
[18:27] <ogra> thanks !
[18:41] <ari-tczew> pitti: could you look how to handle that SRU? https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/karmic/mysql-dfsg-5.1/mysql-sru-343870/+merge/42667
[18:44] <crissi> hello. i have a problem with dm-multipath. it fails with "error adding target to table" errors in initrd when rootfs is readonly but made readwrite with aufs.
[18:44] <crissi> multipath -d shows my path fine but they cant added to the devicemapper target list because dm has failed
[18:59] <tetsuo__> hello
[18:59] <tetsuo__> i've run into a bug with samba, that appears to be fixed upstream
[18:59] <tetsuo__> its this bug http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-987-1
[18:59] <tetsuo__> oops
[18:59] <tetsuo__> sorr
[18:59] <tetsuo__> this one https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=651722
[19:00] <tetsuo__> i want to know what needs to be done in order to get either samba updated, or just that patch backported for ubuntu 10.10
[19:01] <jdstrand> @pilot out
[19:01] <ebroder> !sru | tetsuo__
[19:02] <ebroder> tetsuo__: you need to file a bug and run it through the procedure on that page
[19:02] <tetsuo__> will do thank you
[19:02] <jdstrand_> @pilot out
[19:11] <ari-tczew> pitti: is there any way to join ubuntu-sru?
[19:19]  * JackyAlcine is now reading trackback.
[19:24]  * JackyAlcine is all caught up. ;D
[19:24] <ebroder> JackyAlcine: there's not really any need to post status messages to all of the channels you're joined to
[19:27] <JackyAlcine> Sorry, ebroder.
[21:08] <cragdor> Hi Guys, anyone aware of a GTS250 id 10de:0615, having issues with Ubuntu 10.10 (eg nvidia probe failed)
[21:10] <slangasek> SpamapS: ping
[21:12] <slangasek> SpamapS: unping
[21:20] <doko> wgrant: ping
[21:22] <SpamapS> slangasek: thanks :)
[21:24] <diwic> +
[21:24] <diwic> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[21:25] <diwic> -
[21:27] <ogra> hmm, does anyone know why update-initramfs -c doesnt take care for bootloader setup while -u does ?
[21:27] <ogra> that seems like a bad bug to me
[21:28] <ogra> (the run_bootloader function is never run if the -c arg is used)
[21:29]  * diwic makes a note not to push any keys when carrying the laptop around ;-)
[21:31] <ogra> diwic, oh, i thought that was a deliberate attempt of ascii art
[21:37] <ogra> oh, disregard my cmplaint above, seems cjwatson already proposed a solution in bug 623375
[21:37] <ogra> (i guess i'll just have to implement it :) )
[21:44] <jelmer> NCommander: hi
[21:44] <NCommander>  jelmer hi
[21:45] <jelmer> NCommander: I hear you're interested in discussing bzr-builddeb - I'd be happy to come by the ARM room to discuss it.
[21:45] <jelmer> NCommander: When would be a good time - now?
[21:46] <NCommander> jelmer: that would be good
[21:48] <cyril> Hello all,
[21:48] <cyril>  I am running eclipse under ubuntu and started a php project using symfony with doctrine. I would like an advice on which visual modelling tool to use in order to generate yaml files for doctrine...
[21:48] <cyril> in other words, I want to visually design my database model and then translate it into doctrine yaml files.. What is the most appropriate tool, maybe an eclipse plugin?
[21:48] <micahg> !support | cyril
[21:51] <pitti> StevenK: do you know why this says "no packages copied?
[21:51] <pitti> copy-package.py -s hardy -p canonical-kernel-team --ppa-name=ppa -b  --to-suite=hardy-proposed linux
[21:52] <pitti> StevenK: the package there is newer than the one in hardy-updates, and it's not yet in -proposed
[21:52] <pitti> StevenK: I did similar things for lucid, karmic, maverick, etc, and it worked
[21:52] <pitti> sconklin: ^ (FYI)
[21:52] <StevenK> I suspect because the hardy kernel data is broken
[21:53] <StevenK> pitti: One of hardy's kernels was uploaded was a different orig, and due to a bug was accepted. So now hardy's kernel has two origs :-(
[21:54] <pitti> StevenK: is there anything I (or sconklin) can do about this?
[21:55] <StevenK> pitti: Leave it with me, I'd like to consult my external memory (wgrant)
[21:55] <pitti> StevenK: thanks
[22:07] <wgrant> StevenK: We normally fix that by temporarily cowboying out the hash check.
[22:07] <wgrant> StevenK: However, we should now have a new solution.
[22:09] <StevenK> wgrant: We should?
[22:09] <wgrant> StevenK: I think we may be able to expire the old orig.tar.gz.
[22:09] <wgrant> And things will work.
[22:09] <StevenK> Awesome. Let's.
[23:48] <pitti> StevenK: server down, so I lost backscroll
[23:49] <StevenK> pitti: Is fine, the command line was in backscroll