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ebroderSomebody's been reading the blogs :-P04:55
stalcupwhat's a blog?05:12
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ari-tczewbdrung: interesting case. update-maintainer from daily u-d-t couldn't work: update-maintainer: Error: No Maintainer field found in ./debian/control.14:16
ari-tczewbdrung: get source of seahorse-plugins from Debian unstable and check it14:16
bdrungari-tczew: if you want to help, file a bug report and distillate a testcase (ubuntutools/test/test_update_maintainer.py)14:18
ari-tczewbdrung: how can I run it?14:19
bdrungari-tczew: bug confirmed14:19
ari-tczew(sorry for my lack of knowledge)14:19
bdrungari-tczew: build the package and see what is done.14:20
ari-tczewbdrung: which package?14:21
bdrungari-tczew: ubuntu-dev-tools14:22
bdrungthe test are run on build14:22
bdrungs/test/tests/14:22
* bdrung is currently very busy.14:22
ari-tczewstill confused14:23
ari-tczewbdrung: do you need reported bug?14:23
bdrungari-tczew: either file a bug or propose a bzr branch merge that add a testcase which tests this issue14:25
ari-tczewbdrung: I'll report a bug14:25
dholbachgood morning14:41
ari-tczewhello dholbach14:42
ari-tczewmaco: should we forward your patch to Debian? bug 34572714:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345727 in seahorse-plugins "Seahorse-agent writes an empty ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf on first run, breaking email signing in KDE" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34572714:59
nigelbLaney_: people seem to walk into that channel and then leave :p15:00
nigelbLaney_: (you know the one where you entered and said ':O' and left :p)15:00
Bachstelze#ubuntu ?15:00
ari-tczewmaybe he was excited of number of developers in one place15:01
Bachstelzethat's what I feel like saying every time I go there15:01
Laneynigelb: :P just wanted to see if it still existed15:05
nigelbLaney: hehe15:16
nigelbLaney: me and jonathan are trying to make it cool to hang out there ;)15:17
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evaluatedapal, ping?15:34
dapalevaluate: pong, will look at the package later tonight :)15:34
evaluatedapal, just wanted to let you know that I just had a look at the installation again, and it throws me a bunch of errors right now...15:35
dapalah :)15:35
evaluatenot sure why though, the first time it worked really fine...15:35
dapaltake your time to fix/look at it then, there's no hurry :p15:35
dapal(and I'm a bit busy too)15:35
evaluateok, I will let you know if/when I find the issue15:36
Laneylook! a hanska!15:36
dapaleeeek!15:36
evaluatedapal, hmm, it seems that the script also uses some custom smarty stuff, so I guess I can't use the shared smarty library after all...15:51
dapaluhm :/15:52
evaluateso I'd either have to use the smarty lib they supply or create some patches so that it works with the shared one (if this is even possible -- I will have to look at it), but I think the first one would be much better IMO15:53
dapalI agree15:54
dapalif you can, make a diff between the customised smarty and the system one, just to understand what's different15:54
dapalmaybe the system one could be patched15:54
evaluatedapal, thing is that they don't use the current smarty version that is in debian. they use 2.6.25 and debian has 2.6.2615:55
dapalah15:55
dapalif the difference is only in the version, maybe you could try to patch CMS15:55
dapalfor simplicity, you could just leave the code there though15:55
evaluatedapal, well, from what I can tell, they expect different function names from smarty. let me paste you something real quick15:56
evaluatedapal, http://paste.debian.net/104313/16:00
Bachstelzeis there a standard procedure to request a sync? bug 694387 is fixed in a newer Debian version16:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 694387 in wvdial (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in Natty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69438716:00
Laney!sync16:01
geserBachstelze: requestsync from ubuntu-dev-tools16:01
ubottuHelpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess16:01
evaluatedapal, also, it seems that the file that contains the different code gets loaded directly from the smarty core file, so I can't actually tell the shared smarty librari from debian to load my custom file, because it loads the default one automatically.16:03
dapalevaluate: ok ok, keep the embedded one16:03
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evaluatedapal, btw, setting the permissions in the rules file doesn't seem to work...16:36
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evaluatedapal, finished and uploaded the new package. Whenever you've got time :-)18:18
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hrwhi guys18:41
ari-tczewhi hrw18:50
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kklimondaugs, update-maintainer takes 7 seconds to replace two lines..20:25
kklimondaheh.. it runs rmadison underneath..20:26
kklimondabdrung: does it really make sense to make update-maintainer handle all cases under the sun? runnig rmadison twice makes it really slow, and the reason for that is apparently preventing developers from shooting themselves into feet20:32
ari-tczewkklimonda: which u-d-t do you use? from archive or daily?20:50
kklimondaari-tczew: from archive20:53
bdrungkklimonda: 7 seconds? it runs rmadison?21:09
udienzHello, dep5 have rev 155 can i used it now for new packages for Ubuntu?21:09
kklimondabdrung: the version for natty does21:10
ari-tczewudienz: sure21:13
bdrungkklimonda: natty still have the pre-rewritten u-m. please use https://launchpad.net/~udt-developers/+archive/daily until the next release of udt21:13
bdrungreal0m0.048s21:14
kklimondabdrung: will do21:14
micahgtxwikinger: ping21:19
txwikingermicahg: pong21:19
micahgtxwikinger: could you please look at bug 684510 re ichthux-meta21:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 684510 in sword-language-packs (Ubuntu) "Remove sword-language-packs(BS) and ichthux-live(B) from Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68451021:20
txwikingermicahg: ok.. I do21:20
micahgtxwikinger: thanks21:21
txwikingermicahg: Yes.. I think the package should be dropped.. it is not needed21:21
txwikingerYou want me to write a comment into the bug report?21:21
micahgtxwikinger: the meta package or the binary?21:22
udienzari-tczew, when we must send a patch wih 'submittodebian'? if a patch apllied in debian packages or whan a patch has works well?21:22
ari-tczewudienz: if it's non ubuntu specific, then forward.21:23
ari-tczewudienz: btw. submittodebian is no only way21:23
ari-tczewudienz: I'll comment your application tomorrow21:24
ari-tczewudienz: or later if deadline is not tomorrow21:24
txwikingermicahg: which meta package?21:24
micahgtxwikinger: ichthux21:25
txwikingerno. ichthux should stay21:25
udienzari-tczew, i don't know it's a patch is ubuntu spesific or not. i mean a patch works if used debian experimental21:25
txwikingerI will modify it to take out the sword language packages21:25
udienzari-tczew, aha thanks... feel free to comments when you free21:25
ari-tczewudienz: "used debian experimental" - can't gotcha21:26
ari-tczewwhat does it mean?21:26
micahgtxwikinger: great, thanks, let me know if you need a sponsor21:26
txwikingerok.. thanks micahg21:26
udienzari-tczew, i mean in debian ustable a packages works well by "dpkg-buildpackage" but not in debian-experimental21:26
udienzi use gcc-4.5 and binutils-gold21:27
ari-tczewudienz: how do you testing packages to get build?21:27
udienzari-tczew, yes, always. minimum 3 times, building via dpkg-buildpackage, pbuildr and ppa21:28
udienz*pbuilder21:28
udienzjust make sure this package have bug21:28
lfaraonetumbleweed: sent off your report to the front desk, they'll check it and send it along to DAM, who will say "yes", and tell DSA to create you an account.21:28
ari-tczewudienz: if you're working of fix ftbfs with binutils-gold/gcc4.5 you don't need to sending every package to PPA. pbuilder natty is enough.21:29
ari-tczewudienz: and one time is enough.21:29
ari-tczewanother case if you do: build package -> update pbuilder -> build package once again - that's fine then21:30
bdrungtumbleweed: do you want to become uploader of u-d-t once you are DD?21:35
udienzfixed bug 70147622:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 701476 in stardict (Ubuntu) "[FTBFS] Source stardict 3.0.1-7 in natty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70147622:10
tumbleweedlfaraone: that was amazingly quick, thanks22:22
tumbleweedbdrung: sure, I imagine I'll be involved in it for a while to come22:23
bdrungtumbleweed: your merge proposals are still on my todo list.22:24
tumbleweedbdrung: good good, I still have some stuff to do for the builders. been busy with NM and other things22:25
bdrungtumbleweed: we should do at least one u-d-t release this month22:26
tumbleweedyeah, sounds good, otherwise there's way too much untested code22:26
lfaraonetumbleweed: hehe, 3 days is unheard of, you're right. but don't worry, they'll have you in the DAM queue for a week at least.22:27
bdrungtumbleweed: my NM process took nearly a year. ;)22:28
lfaraonebdrung: I was in it for 6 months.22:28
bdrungtumbleweed: btw, we should try to create a testcase for every bug that is reported.22:28
lfaraoneto tumbleweed 's credit, he did apply in October.22:29
tumbleweedbdrung: yeah, that's always a good idea (sorry timed out there, dodgy DSL line)22:32
DktrKranzbdrung: I think you can even upload u-d-t to unstable this time22:32
bdrungDktrKranz: then why did we upload it to experimental?22:33
DktrKranzin case we need to fix things before squeeze, but I don't think it'll be the case anymore22:33
DktrKranzanyway, it's fine to have it in experimental for another upload too22:34
ari-tczewDktrKranz: so, people forgot that Debian isn't yet released?22:47
lfaraoneari-tczew: no… people *can* upload to unstable if they want.22:50
ari-tczewaha22:50
LaneyI imagine Debian will release quite soon, so no need22:57
DktrKranzari-tczew: basically, we didn't upload to unstable to be given the chance to upload fixes straight to unstable instead of targeting t-p-u, now that we're close to release, and there weren't lots of bugs reported, uploading to unstable could be an option22:58

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