[00:14] <sinthetek> heya, i've been having issues with kdm ever since testing a beta ppa
[00:14] <Thunderirc> anyone abl;e to help
[00:15] <James147_> !details | sinthetek
[00:15] <sinthetek> i managed to remove most/all of the packages ppa-purge but ever since kdm doesnt' want to let me login
[00:15] <James147_> !ask | Thunderirc
[00:15] <sinthetek> ubottu: i'm in the process.
[00:15] <sinthetek> my b, ubottu :P
[00:16]  * sinthetek redirects the statement to James147_ 
[00:16] <Thunderirc> im running ubuntu server , and i setup the ircd i can connect just fine to the network , but outside users cant  any help will be appreciated
[00:16]  * James147_ redirects sinthetekto ubottu's second statment :)
[00:17] <yofel> Thunderirc: is the IRC port open and forwarded to that server?
[00:18] <Thunderirc> thats just the thing i added it to linksys and its still not working , i just dont get why ubuntu and my network has to use the routers ip
[00:19] <James147_> sinthetek: make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed ^^ that should pullin anything you need... otherwise test a new profile, see if you can log in with thekm
[00:20] <Thunderirc> when i do ifconfig only the 192.168.xx ips show up
[00:22] <ubuntu> hey does someone got a fujitsu siemens amilo 7400 running 10.10 ?
[00:24] <Thunderirc> yofel did i lose u
[00:24] <yofel> Thunderirc: well, you're on your local network obviously
[00:24] <yofel> Thunderirc: how are you trying to get others to connect to your ircd
[00:24] <yofel> ?
[00:25] <sinthetek> after adding a ppa and then removing it (and downgrading (hopefully) all of the related packages, i cannot seem to get past the splash screen upon login. at this point it seems to crash and revert back to kdm. the errors that appear to be most relevant have to do with inability to connect to ibus (which i've tried re-installing) and something related to inotify (which i've also tried reinstalling). i have also tried dpkg-reconfiguring and re-i
[00:26] <Woodzy> how do i re-install the kde / kubuntu network manager from apt-cache ?
[00:26] <Thunderirc> by mirc ... when i went to the laptop on the same network .. i put the ip in and 6667 and its sayings that port is closed. but i have it port forwarded in linksys router settings
[00:26] <yofel> wait, if you're on the same network the router settings don't matter - the ircd is properly running?
[00:26] <yofel> and listening on 6667?
[00:27] <Thunderirc> yes
[00:27] <Thunderirc> running right now as we speak... services and bnc
[00:27] <yofel> try running nmap on the laptop to see what ports on the server are open
[00:27] <yofel> nmap <serverip>
[00:28] <Thunderirc> ok
[00:28] <sinthetek> i've also tried disabling compositing in kwinrc, btw
[00:28] <yofel> Woodzy: the package name is plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[00:29] <yofel> and knm-runtime
[00:32] <Thunderirc> yofel its saying host is down .. may be up but blocking
[00:33] <yofel> then configure the firewall, I fear that I don't know anything about iptables though
[00:34] <Thunderirc> the only firewall that i have up is the linksys
[00:34] <Thunderirc> (%) Welcome to the ThunderIRc IRC Network Thunderirc!email@192.168.1xx.xxx
[00:35] <Thunderirc> see the ip , i never seen an ircd use the routers ip address
[00:38] <yofel> well, in probably uses the IP that the server has currently, don't know too much about ircds though
[00:38] <yofel> s/in/it/
[00:38]  * yofel is off to bed, good night
[00:42]  * sinthetek tries reinstalling every package on his system
[00:43] <sinthetek> will apt-get's --purge work in conjunction with --reinstall?
[00:44] <precubcr> hy all
[00:44] <precubcr> need a litle help pls
[00:44] <sinthetek> not seeing any errors but not certain it is actually doing it
[00:44] <precubcr> how can i install pyrit on my kubuntu maverick¿?
[00:44] <precubcr> it works ..
[00:44] <precubcr> but u need to do first the 1 later the 2nd
[00:45] <precubcr> and than
[00:45] <precubcr> --upgrade
[00:48] <Woodzy> my wireless network device can no longer obtain ip address automatically. is there a way to flush dns?
[00:48] <Woodzy> or is there something else i need to look at?
[01:08] <Woodzy> my wireless is no longer able to obtain ip address automatically, how can i fix this?
[01:21] <Woodzy> is there a way to reset my network settings to default, looks like my network-manager-applet changed in the system tray (looks different).
[01:44] <Woodzy> can i not connect to an un-encrypted network ?
[02:05]  * Woodzy slaps FloodBotK2 around a bit with a large trout
[02:11] <tim> I use kubuntu with open-ssh to edit my webserver files.  Since upgrading to maverick, I can not paste into the directory.  I still can using a lucid client, but not using maverick.  I just connect using dolphin.  I installed nautilus, and I can paste in sftp using that.  Is there a fix for dolphin to be able to paste in to and sftp directory?
[02:15] <tim> Since upgrading to Maverick, I can't paste into a remote sftp directory using dolphin or konqueror.  Is there any fix for this?
[02:22] <poyntz> can anyone explain why kpackagekit crashes on startup ~ http://pastebin.com/C4LZwmRc ?
[02:29] <poyntz> i upgraded to the latest kde but it corrupted kpackagekit.. is there any way to fix this?
[02:30] <poyntz> just fixed it by installing the latest
[02:30] <poyntz> thnx
[02:30] <Thunderirc> im lost here i changed my ip in ubuntu . and now i cant connect to SSH .. what should i do
[02:38] <Woodzy> is there a way to reinstall the plasma network management widget for kde from the kubuntu disk? mines missing.
[02:43] <joebob777as7> Having issues with two 10.04 systems: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: only root can mount
[02:43] <joebob777as7> can't mount usb ntfs drives by plugging them in
[02:43] <joebob777as7> added them to fstab and that works but if they aren't plugged in the system won't boot and that won't do.
[02:43] <joebob777as7> plz help been googling for hours lots of people have the issue no one has solved by not modifying fstab
[02:52] <shane4ubuntu> joebob777as7: you should always be able to mount as root, that is not a fix, just a work around,
[02:53] <shane4ubuntu> Woodzy: should be able to, however you will have to uncomment out the disk thing in sources.list
[03:20] <Woodzy> shane4ubuntu not sure what i need to install to get the network-manager plasma widget / applet back ?
[03:21] <Woodzy> shane4ubuntu, is there a way to set network settings back to default?
[03:34] <nolstradomis> hey im looking for some help compiling java. could anyone give me a hand
[03:37] <mr-rich> Is there a way to tell Kubuntu to (temporarily) disconnnect a usb device such as a printer?
[03:41] <Woodzy> @nolstradomis: there's a java #channel or two on freenode. :)
[03:43] <Woodzy> does kubuntu have a repair installation like windows ?
[03:59] <sinthetek> any idea on the best way to go about re-installation when you are using the default /home encryption option?
[03:59] <sinthetek> could you just re-add the users with their passes set to the same thing and have everything in tact?
[04:00] <sinthetek> or would that re-initialize their encrypted directories overwriting everything that is there?
[04:01] <sinthetek> s/directories/encrypted-homes
[04:02] <poyntz> is omaque supposed to work?
[04:09] <gizmobay> When I plug in a usb flash drive, the files come up in nautalis. How can I change this to dolphin?
[04:23] <sinthetek> anyone know of a way to login to an encrypted /home from a liveusb?
[04:25] <leenux> which kubuntu uses kde 4.5?
[04:41] <poyntz> sinthetek: cd ~ ?
[04:42] <sinthetek> poyntz: since when can you use cd to login to anything?
[04:46] <c2tarun> anyone using kubuntu 10.04 - 64bit?
[04:47] <leenux> c2tarun: i was going to try it
[04:48] <c2tarun> leenux: Actually I was facing a problem, kubuntu don't have gcc preinstalled in it. And I need gcc compiler to install my lan driver. Without LAN driver I can access internet. If you try Can you please download the deb file for gcc from repository and give it to me?
[04:54] <c2tarun> why there is no gcc provided in kubuntu?
[04:54] <leenux> c2tarun:  you sure?  that sounds weird
[04:55] <c2tarun> what distro are you using now?
[04:55] <leenux> c2tarun: i am not running kubuntu at the moment
[04:55] <leenux> gcc should be in the repository... have you installed synaptic?  I always install that even though the de is not gnome
[04:55] <c2tarun> leenux: ok does ur distro directly detect ur LAN Card in your current distro?
[04:56] <leenux> lan ethernet you mean, right?  not wifi card
[04:56] <c2tarun> leenux: yup
[04:56] <leenux> yes, it detects my lan but it's an open source one... atheros
[04:56] <leenux> what's your lan card?  do you know the chipset?
[04:56] <leenux> i used to have a realtek one before with a previous mobo and it was detected too before
[04:56] <c2tarun> mine is also atheros but I need to install AR81 family driver from outside
[04:57] <leenux> but i switcheed motherboards and now it's atheros and automatically detected and this is in debian!
[04:57] <leenux> debian is more strict now
[04:57] <leenux> really?!?
[04:57] <c2tarun> I m using ubuntu and it don't detect. After installing the driver it gets detected and after then I can use internet.
[04:58] <leenux> that's odd.
[04:58] <leenux> which atheros is it again?  they all should be detected though by now
[04:59] <leenux> is it a notebook?
[05:00] <leenux> oh, AR81... maybe you should google the family and select the options in google for most recent hits or findings
[05:02] <c2tarun> actually i have the driver :( problem is to install that driver I need gcc compiler
[05:02] <apparle> c2tarun: what driver
[05:03] <c2tarun> AR81 family driver for lan ethernet
[05:04] <leenux> notebook or desktop?
[05:04] <leenux> it's possible if it's a new atheros chip, it's not yet in the kernel yet
[05:04] <leenux> shouldn't have to compile
[05:04] <c2tarun> dell inspiron N4010 (laptop)
[05:05] <c2tarun> ya its a new laptop
[05:05] <leenux> ahhh
[05:05] <c2tarun> any suggestions :( I liked kde so want to use kubuntu
[05:05] <leenux> hmmm..google that chipset... and add 'atheros' + 'linux''
[05:05] <leenux> see what you come up with
[05:06] <leenux> you can try kubuntu but you should just use live cds or dvds until one detects
[05:06] <elkng> I've booted from liveCD and all desktop enviropment entire big menu, how can I get regular desktop?
[05:06] <leenux> if it's same situation then it's because it's a new lan chipset
[05:06] <leenux> my guess
[05:06] <c2tarun> sorry but what do you mean by chipset? my laptop model?
[05:06] <leenux> no the chipset of the lan card
[05:07] <leenux> it's atheros ar81xxxxx where xxxx are numbers
[05:07] <leenux> i think command lspci should show it
[05:07] <c2tarun> ok wait
[05:09] <leenux> mine shows AR8121/AR8113/AR8114
[05:09] <c2tarun> leenux: driver is available. but its not in debian format. And I have to install it by compiling
[05:09] <c2tarun> mine is AR8152
[05:11] <apparle> how to use a phone as a modem over bluetooth
[05:11] <apparle> does kubuntu maverick support it
[05:13] <leenux> c2tarun: i dont know... i think atheros needs to support that chip
[05:13] <apparle> c2tarun: it is a common problem for your chip
[05:13] <apparle> I am searching... wait for some time
[05:14] <leenux> apparle: sorry, no idea
[05:14] <c2tarun> sure apparle thanx :)
[05:14] <leenux> probably because these notebooks get very recent lan chips not to mention recent wifi chipsets unless it's intel
[05:14] <apparle> c2tarun: see if this helps.... net is slow so I can't see that page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1505697.html
[05:15] <apparle> c2tarun: if nothing else you can compile the driver, but lets search for a simpler solution first
[05:16] <lord-drist> #twil
[05:18] <poyntz> where's the official vlc channel?
[05:18] <c2tarun> apparle:sure
[05:18] <poyntz> !vlc
[05:18] <poyntz> !info vlc
[05:19] <poyntz> grr
[05:19] <poyntz> wat would be great
[05:19] <c2tarun> poyntz: hey where can we get these xchat/IRC commands
[05:19] <poyntz> c2tarun: ?
[05:19] <c2tarun> poyntz: like !vlc or !info vlc what are these?
[05:20] <poyntz> wat would be great is if audio in dragon automatically output to HDMI when a HDMI cable was attached..
[05:20] <poyntz> c2tarun: commands for ubottu
[05:20] <poyntz> !help > c2tarun
[05:20] <apparle> c2tarun: it seems you will have to compile
[05:20] <c2tarun> apparle: how can we do that?
[05:20] <apparle> does the computer in question connected to net
[05:21] <apparle> by wifi etc
[05:21] <c2tarun> no, I tried everything but internet is not accesible in any way
[05:21] <leenux> go to this webpage c2tarun.......
[05:22] <leenux> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16953/need-wired-driver-for-an-atheros-ar8152
[05:22] <leenux> it looks like a wip
[05:22] <poyntz> !xchat | c2tarun
[05:22] <leenux> a yucky hack but probably have to do some tweak to get it to work for now :-/
[05:22] <poyntz> !info xchat | c2tarun
[05:22] <poyntz> c2tarun: so yeh.. its just a client.. these commands aren't specific to it
[05:22] <poyntz> c2tarun: im running irssi
[05:23] <c2tarun> poyntz: I can see ubottu commands :(
[05:25] <apparle> c2tarun: is there anyway you can connect it to internet.... maybe a wireless modem
[05:25] <poyntz> c2tarun: type !help commands
[05:26] <c2tarun> actually for wifi I have a broadcom wifi card. but first I have to connect to internet via LAN and then install its driver and then only I can connect to internet.
[05:27] <poyntz> c2tarun: actually that doesn't work... i dunno haha
[05:27] <c2tarun> i'll be right back in 5 mins
[05:28] <c2tarun> sorry
[05:40] <c2tarun> apparle: u there?
[06:12] <ryrych> good morning!
[06:14] <ryrych> Could I ask someone nifty to make a .deb package of Keyboard Layout Editor for me? I tried to compile it but it failed. :( I can provide you link with instructions :)
[07:34] <Storm_> Hi
[07:34] <Storm_> anyone here?
[07:34] <Storm_> I just installed Kubuntu
[07:35] <Storm_> Hi Chrise
[07:35] <Storm_> and Armi
[07:35] <Tm_T> Storm_: welcome
[07:35] <Storm_> Thanks
[07:35] <Storm_> can you help me with 1 simple question please on Kubuntu
[07:35] <ChrisE> hey
[07:35] <ChrisE> what's up?  what you trying to achieve?
[07:36] <Storm_> you know like on  windows and mac os x and ubuntu
[07:36] <Storm_> you can drag your mouse on the desktop and makea  box to select several icons
[07:36] <Storm_> well I cant do that on Kubuntu
[07:36] <Storm_> its a simple feature every OS seems to have
[07:36] <maco> that works fine for me in my folder view widget...
[07:36] <Storm_> there must be a way for kubuntu
[07:37] <ChrisE> you should be able to, i can on my desktop folder
[07:37] <ChrisE> this is a pretty fresh 10.10 installation
[07:37] <ChrisE> you mean in the desktop folder or on the desktop itself?
[07:37] <Storm_> the desktop itself
[07:37] <Tm_T> Storm_: sounds like you begin the select action outside the folderview widget
[07:37] <Storm_> i just instealled 10.10 also
[07:38] <maco> how are you having any icons on the desktop?
[07:38] <Storm_> i have no iceons on desktop yet
[07:38] <ChrisE> me neither
[07:38] <maco> see where it says Desktop Folder in a lighter blue box?
[07:38] <maco> your files and any launchers you want to add would go in there
[07:38] <maco> drawing a box works fine in it
[07:39] <Storm_> i clicked out of it
[07:39] <Storm_> so i just have a blank desotp
[07:39] <maco> oh. well then you either need to add it back to be able to have those there or you have to go to the desktop properties and change it so the entire desktop is a folder view
[07:40] <maco> (in which case i dont think youd be able to have widgets on the desktop, though im not quite sure)
[07:40] <Storm_> hmm
[07:40] <ChrisE> this is new to me too
[07:40] <Storm_> I did a right click on desotp
[07:40] <Storm_> and hit add panel
[07:40] <Storm_> now how do i remove it sorry lol
[07:40] <ChrisE> don't do pointy clicky file management usually
[07:41] <Storm_> i fixed the panel problem
[07:41] <maco> poke around a bit, you'll get the hang of the widgets :)
[07:42] <Storm_> yea its strange though how by default i can not use a box and select icons on the desktop. every linux distro and operating system lets you do this :-(
[07:42] <Storm_> i dont like widgets never used them on any OS
[07:43] <maco> you can use a box...
[07:43] <maco> its just that by default you dont have the icons scattered ALL OVER the desktop. instead they are nicely held in a little scrollable box
[07:43] <Storm_> k
[07:43] <Storm_> I just installed google earth now dont knwo where it installed
[07:44] <Storm_> and the search does not find it either but it says it installed
[07:44] <Storm_> sorry im a newb kinda
[07:45] <ChrisE> type alt-f2 then googleearth into the box and if it installed properly, it'll run
[07:46] <Storm_> k thanks its not running
[07:46] <Storm_> then the Kubuntu packagae manager lied to me when it said its installed
[07:46] <maco> or it crashed when it tried to run
[07:47] <maco> the last few releases google has had have done that :-/
[07:47] <ChrisE> do you have a directory called .googleearth?
[07:47] <ChrisE> is there a crash report in it?
[07:47] <Storm_> i type in google earth in the search and the search should search the whole hard drive like windows right?
[07:47] <Storm_> search shows nothing also
[07:47] <ChrisE> no space
[07:47] <Storm_> yea i did not use space
[07:47] <maco> Storm_: it may not have indexed it yet...
[07:47] <Storm_> k maybe i have to restart then
[07:48] <maco> its not a restart thing
[07:48] <maco> files are indexed systemwide daily
[07:48] <ChrisE> that's a very windows way of doing things
[07:48] <maco> and then for the desktop search...i dont know if you have it turned on or not
[07:48] <ChrisE> doing it via the alt-f2 box will find it if it's on the path
[07:48] <Storm_> so what should be my next step in fixing this problem
[07:48] <Storm_> yea i did the alt f2 and type in googleearth nothing happens
[07:48] <Storm_> but the package manager says google earth is installed and there is a button to hit remove
[07:49] <ChrisE> ok, log out and log in again
[07:49] <ChrisE> there should be no need to reboot though
[07:49] <maco> shouldnt need to log out either
[07:49] <Storm_> if it instealld right will it be under my programs menu
[07:49] <ChrisE> well you could start a terminal session and run it from there, to pick up anychanges in your path
[07:50] <maco> i installed it from google's webpage not hte package manager (because package manager just pulls google's latest, which was broken and simply crashed at the time), but i ended up with a google-earth directory in my home dir
[07:50] <maco> do you have that?
[07:50] <maco> it does show in my menu
[07:50] <Storm_> it says
[07:51] <Storm_> google earth  package
[07:51] <Storm_> all it says
[07:51] <Storm_> 0.5.7
[07:52] <maco> does it say what the package's actual name is? i think its just googleearth ... you could try typing "dpkg -L googleearth" on the command line to get a list of files it installed
[07:56] <Storm_> I fixed it. I just went to googles website and installed in manually
[07:56] <Storm_> instead of the Kpackage manager
[07:57] <Storm_> omg its installed and i open up the program now it doesnt work
[07:57] <Storm_> sigh
[07:57] <Storm_> it loads and then it just goes away
[08:00] <Storm_> thanks for the help guys I appreciate it. I  have google earth installed now and it opens up and loads then just closes. I used linux a few years back and I was hoping things have changed but its all stayed the same. Im going back to windows. If a smiple program like google earth does not even work there is no sense for me even trying to use linux as I need this program. Thanks again for the help. Maybe I will try linux in another 5 years
[08:01] <ubuntuku> lol
[08:14] <OchoZero9> what do i do if my mouse is frozen?
[08:15] <OchoZero9> is there any keycombination that I may hit to see if the system comes back to life?
[08:18] <OchoZero9> shiii i something smells burn and it wont turn on
[08:19] <OchoZero9> it turnned back on
[08:20] <Adys> I'm having this issue with kmix: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112567.0 - Killing it and restarting it works like a charm, for a few hours, then it starts lagging again.
[08:20] <Adys> Saw kde bug 237239 but i dont think it consumes as much memory as the bug claim for me so that might be different
[08:21] <Adys> any idea what's wrong?
[09:09] <george> efi
[09:18] <jtheuer> how do I generate an additional locale? "dpkg-reconfigure locales" just says 'up to date'
[09:19] <Tm_T> jtheuer: if you install related lang-pack, locale will be generated automatically
[09:25] <jtheuer> Tm_T: I want the select dialog because I need a specific additional locale
[09:25] <Tm_T> !locales
[09:25] <Tm_T> jtheuer: ^
[09:28] <jtheuer> thanks a lot
[09:28] <jtheuer> I still don't know how to get back to this debconf dialog where I could select locales but 'locale-gen' worked
[09:49] <the-bug> hi all!!!
[09:49] <the-bug> any bodies there?
[10:18] <ecinx3> how can i get on my kubuntu desktop from my laptop when I'm not home?
[10:20] <hotmanta> Do you want a remote graphical session?
[10:21] <ecinx3> yes
[10:22] <hotmanta> You can try out nomachine an Italian product or maybe VNC.
[10:23] <hotmanta> What OS does you laptop have?
[10:23] <ecinx3> win7/kubuntu
[10:25] <hotmanta> Ok, when running kubuntu on your laptop you can ssh -X to you desktop and run any GUI application remotely as well. Very handy.
[10:26] <the-bug> hi all?
[10:26] <the-bug> anyone no how to fix internal sd cardreader?
[10:27] <hotmanta> ecinx3, not sure if my comments are helpful? you may be new?
[10:27] <ecinx3> i donwloaded desktop sharing
[10:27] <the-bug> very new!!! lol
[10:28] <the-bug> sory thought u ment me!!!
[10:28] <ecinx3> it says VNC
[10:28] <hotmanta> no prob the-bug
[10:28] <ecinx3> so ill just get tight vnc for windows , hopefully it works
[10:29] <hotmanta> Where did you get desktop sharing?
[10:29] <ecinx3> kpackagekit
[10:30] <hotmanta> ok, I am just looking now at kpackagekit for description.
[10:30] <ecinx3> http://www.kde.org/applications/system/krfb/
[10:31] <hotmanta> couldn't find the package you mentioned?
[10:31] <ecinx3> by name is krfb
[10:31] <ecinx3> description desktop sharing
[10:32] <hotmanta> OK, KDE wrapper for VNC, looks good.
[10:32] <the-bug> i can see that ecinx3 and hotmanta are very busy, anyone else out there for a bit of info?
[10:32] <the-bug> pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze?
[10:32] <ecinx3> the-bug: I'm new too
[10:33] <the-bug> lol! i no how u feel!!!
[10:33] <ecinx3> i didn't see the ssh -X  until now.  can you elaborate?
[10:34] <ecinx3> in my data structures class they told me i need to ssh to the school computer and compile there.
[10:34] <hotmanta> OK, ssh -X allows remote computer to render the xwindows application.
[10:35] <ecinx3> that's only if i go from kubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:35] <the-bug> come back later bye all!!!
[10:35] <hotmanta> yes, linux remote computer  to linux computer.
[10:36] <ecinx3> that's fine too because in windows i also have a kubuntu vbox
[10:37] <hotmanta> the -X part allow the remote computer to tunnel the screen info over ssh protocol..
[10:37] <ecinx3> nice
[10:37] <ecinx3> i don't need any software?
[10:38] <ecinx3> just get on the terminal and type ssh -X  ip.ip.ip.ip ?
[10:39] <hotmanta> no special software, very handy to run a single app remotely like dolphin file manger for example.
[10:39] <ecinx3> specifically i want to use kile
[10:39] <hotmanta> to use is ssh -X  ip.ip.ip.ip then type the app name like kate for text editor.
[10:40] <hotmanta> what is kile?
[10:40] <ecinx3> the kubuntu in my laptop 11.04 kile  doesn't do the abbrevs
[10:41] <ecinx3> in my desktop it works fine. and the 11.05 is not in the package manager, and I think i didn't compile it correctly so it crashes within a minute of use
[10:41] <ecinx3> kile is a LaTeX editor based on kate
[10:41] <hotmanta> ok try it , and see how you go, might work for you.
[10:42] <ryrych> Could I ask someone nifty to make a .deb package of Keyboard Layout Editor for me? I tried to compile it but it failed. :( I can provide you link with instructions :)
[10:42] <ecinx3> i know almsot any editor handles LaTeX fine, but I need to do some math formulas and i can type it faster using the macros and stuff
[10:43] <hotmanta> ok sounds like you need a niffty editor for you studies.
[10:45] <ecinx3> im trying to configure emacs for that, but it will take a while, the way kile works it reads off a file called  cwl and it applies the stuff from there.. in emacs you need to use skeleton or  a program called Yassnippet, and you have to do each macro one at a time.  while as the cwl is one big file
[10:46] <hotmanta> didn't know about these cwl files, sounds niffty.
[10:48] <ecinx3> yeah, i couldnt find info on that cwl stuff really,  but it works
[10:49] <ecinx3> http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~fastex/ftp/docs/users_guide/ if you ever need to type latex math you may want to consider this
[10:50] <ecinx3> only if you doing at least 5 pages, otherwise you can just click on the math symbols  and not worry about learning a synhtax
[10:51] <hotmanta> did a google on cwl kate editor and looked in the kile handbook to see what you mean.
[10:52] <ecinx3> seems like the kile peole reimplimented fastex to cwl file
[10:53] <ecinx3> i mean for any other progamming language snippest work jsut fine , if else , getters ,setters,
[10:53] <ecinx3> but theres a code for every math symbole and then it gets complicated when you do an integral from -infinity to positive inifinity ....
[10:55] <hotmanta> right, I don't need to use latex, but my friend used to use it. Derived for TEX wriiten by the guru donald kunuth
[10:56] <hotmanta> sorry, Donald Knuth, my mistake in speeling his name.
[10:56] <ecinx3> don't know who wrote it, but yeah i knew it came from TeX
[10:56] <hotmanta> sorry, I have fat fingers.
[10:56] <ecinx3> I replaced microsoft word and open office for LaTeX
[10:56] <ecinx3> looks much nicer..
[10:57] <hotmanta> Yeah Donald is a real software guru, he would pay people who could find bugs in the TEX program
[10:58] <ecinx3> nice
[10:58] <hotmanta> It is the most bug free program in thw world.
[10:58] <ecinx3> but i dont think plain ol' TeX is used anymore
[10:59] <ecinx3> mostly LaTeX , then XeTeX and some other stuff which all came from TeX
[10:59] <hotmanta> may be not just mentioned it as my friend was really into it and donald's book about programming.
[11:00] <ecinx3> compared to a 'real' programming language, it's easy to learn
[11:00] <hotmanta> ok, so you use it quite a bit?
[11:01] <ecinx3> and then just use a reference for any keywords
[11:01] <ecinx3> I started 2 months ago
[11:01] <ecinx3> people know it for math and science
[11:01] <ecinx3> but the main thing is to make PDFs
[11:02] <ecinx3> so if you write a document instead of .doc or .txt it will be pdf and look nice
[11:03] <ecinx3> it does this for you  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typesetting
[11:03] <hotmanta> I will take a look, I have started using BasKet for my documenation.
[11:04] <ecinx3> WOW
[11:04] <ecinx3> I just download that program 15 minuts ago
[11:04] <hotmanta> really that is freaky.
[11:19] <ecinx3> yw..
[11:22] <hotmanta> search google for "how to display xwindows app ssh -X" and there are some videos to watch, they may help.
[11:23] <ecinx3> k thx
[11:25] <hotmanta> no prob, good talking to you.
[11:40] <ecinx3> do you know how to download a directory from the internet?
[11:45] <hotmanta> a directory, please provide more info
[11:45] <ecinx3> http://www.rsriv.ece.ufl.edu/F10/
[11:46] <hotmanta> you want all these files? wget or curl may help you here?
[11:47] <ecinx3> how do you do that?
[11:48] <hotmanta> wget -r http://www.rsriv.ece.ufl.edu/F10/
[11:48] <ecinx3> oh do i type where i want to save it to?
[11:49] <ecinx3> nevermind it worked thansk
[11:50] <hotmanta> Try cd ~/Downloads;wget -r http://www.rsriv.ece.ufl.edu/F10/
[11:51] <ecinx3> thanks
[11:51] <ecinx3> I'm repeating this class, I forgot to download these files the first time around
[11:52] <hotmanta> cool
[11:53] <ecinx3> hopefully i get at least a B+ this time
[11:56] <hotmanta> good luck!
[11:56] <ecinx3> thaks
[11:57]  * y0m6uy is away: Indisponible actuellement
[12:05]  * y0m6uy is back.
[12:05] <ecinx3> what's the command to updtate my system?
[12:06] <ecinx3> apt-get upgrade dist ...
[12:17] <hotmanta> I use apt-get update;aptitude -y dist-upgrade "hint, you may need to apt-get install aptitude first"
[12:19] <hotmanta> Will need to be root or place use sudo "sudo apt-get update;sudo aptitude -y dist-upgrade"
[12:20] <hotmanta> hope this helps, I need to go now,  bye ecinx3.
[12:20] <ecinx3> thanks
[12:34] <ArGGu^^> just noticed that in system monitor the network history does not display anything. I'm using kubuntu 10.04.
[12:35] <ArGGu^^> *10.10
[12:35] <ArGGu^^> I'm using kubuntu 10.10
[12:35] <ArGGu^^> Is here other 10.10 user who could check if it working?
[12:36] <gaetano> ciao
[12:36] <ArGGu^^> hi
[12:36] <gaetano> i have a problem
[12:36] <gaetano> i want a program like skyper
[12:37] <gaetano> maybe for linux
[12:37] <ArGGu^^> skyper? skype?
[12:37] <gaetano> yesc
[12:37] <gaetano> skype
[12:37] <ArGGu^^> I think that skype is in ubuntu repos
[12:37] <gaetano> yes but
[12:37] <gaetano> theran't
[12:38] <gaetano> videoconfe.
[12:39] <skramer_> gaetano: I have Skype running on Kubuntu 10.10 & videoconference is working without problems
[12:39] <gaetano> :(
[12:39] <gaetano> skype 2.0???
[12:40] <ArGGu^^> 2.1 beta has videoconference
[12:40] <skramer_> yes, 2.1.0.81
[12:40] <gaetano> i'm a idiot:(
[12:40] <gaetano> but
[12:40] <ArGGu^^> gaetano what version of (k/x)ubuntu you are using?
[12:40] <gaetano> i don't kwon
[12:40] <ArGGu^^> 10.10?
[12:41] <gaetano> i use  10.010
[12:43] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ btw Does the network history in system monitor work in your kubuntu installation?
[12:44] <ArGGu^^> In my installation it wont display anything :S
[12:44] <skramer_> ArGGu^^: seems like it does
[12:45] <skramer_> ArGGu^^: there's a yellow graph and and a pink one, both showing peeks
[12:45] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ ok, need to clear config maybe it will help.
[12:45] <skramer_> ArGGu^^: but, I'm not sure if the shown values are correct... :-|
[12:46] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ yeah, but I don't have any graph in it.
[12:47] <skramer_> ArGGu^^: hmm... unfortunately, I have no clue...
[12:48] <skramer_> my system was updated from 9.10, though...
[12:49] <skramer_> anybody knows if an U1 client is available for KDE?
[12:50] <vbgunz> I just recently added a wireless card to my box. kde is killing me with this extremely annoying popup of "secrets for router - kde daemon"... then my password is already pre-filled I just need to either hit ok or cancel... this is annoying. how do I get rid of it?
[12:50] <vbgunz> it pops up every now and again
[12:50] <skramer_> I mean there has been one, but unfortunately it is no longer available
[12:54] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ what is U1?
[12:55] <skramer_> ArGGu^^: sorry... it's Ubuntu One
[12:55] <ArGGu^^> ok
[13:01] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ it seems that the ubuntuone-kde project is dead :S
[13:02] <skramer_> what a pity...
[13:05] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ source code of 0.1-alpha1 is still available
[13:07] <skramer_> ArGGu^^: so maybe I'll compile myself if I got little more time to spare ;-)
[13:10] <ArGGu^^> skramer_ ok, https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client-kde
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:31] <susundberg> hi
[13:32] <c2tarun> kubuntu don't have gcc compiler preinstalled. I need gcc compiler for installing my LAN driver. Can anyone help me in installing gcc on kubuntu 10.04
[13:32] <susundberg> open konsole and type apt-get install gcc
[13:32] <susundberg> what was that build essentials
[13:33] <susundberg> that should actually be better, since you will probably also need make & friends
[13:33] <susundberg> Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[13:34] <c2tarun> susundberg: the problem with apt-get is there is no internet on that system. :(
[13:35] <c2tarun> in order to make internet work I have to install LAN driver which needs gcc compiler
[13:35] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, it's actually build-essential that you need
[13:35] <susundberg> then you need to download package and transfer them with some other mean
[13:35] <c2tarun> I tried transferring that package from ubuntu's /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:35] <c2tarun> but it didn't work
[13:35] <susundberg> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <- there you might find packages
[13:36] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, whay kind of connection , wifi or ethernet?
[13:36] <c2tarun> are you guys using kubuntu 10.04 LTS 64 bit
[13:37] <c2tarun> I don't have any connection on kubuntu. first I have to install LAN for ethernet and then i'll install wifi
[13:38] <BluesKaj>  c2tarun , ok what is your NIC , do a lspci  to see what the ethernet card is
[13:38] <susundberg> i have 11.04 x64 and 10.04 x32
[13:38] <c2tarun> BluesKaj: AR8152 v1.1 Fast Ethernet
[13:39] <BluesKaj> c2tarun,realtek ?
[13:39] <c2tarun> susundberg: hey can you extract build essential files from /var/cache/apt/archives. and mail me
[13:39] <c2tarun> no Atheros
[13:39] <susundberg> no i will not do that
[13:39] <susundberg> that would be silly
[13:39] <c2tarun> BluesKaj: Atheros
[13:39] <BluesKaj> athero is wifi
[13:39] <c2tarun> susundberg: ok
[13:40] <c2tarun> BluesKaj: Atheros is for ethernet
[13:40] <susundberg> are they both in pci(*) not on usb?
[13:41] <c2tarun> yup, no one is on usb
[13:41] <BluesKaj> c2tarun,, it's a laptop right ?
[13:41] <susundberg> c2tarun: and you are sure the driver is not working ?
[13:41] <c2tarun> yup its a laptop
[13:41] <susundberg> that the problem is not in your settings?
[13:41] <susundberg> what does ifconfig show?
[13:42] <c2tarun> susundberg: yup the driver is not working as i checked it with ifconfig eth0
[13:42] <c2tarun> no device detected
[13:42] <BluesKaj> i'm sure the ethernet driver works , you just need to enable it in knetworkmanager
[13:43] <c2tarun> BluesKaj: ok, i'll give it a try....
[13:43] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, run ifup eth0
[13:44] <c2tarun> actually i don't have kubuntu installed right now. :( I have to uninstall it and reinstall ubuntu :(
[13:45] <BluesKaj> ?? how can you uninstall if it it isn't installed
[13:47] <susundberg> for the record: i have never in my life (sofar) had computer where the wire-ethernet would not work 'out of the box'
[13:47] <susundberg> if settings are proper
[13:47] <BluesKaj> susundberg, same here , I dunno what he means by a lan driver , either
[13:48] <susundberg> here is what i found by googling his card: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617044
[13:48] <susundberg> ya
[13:50] <BluesKaj> I think the knetworkmanager wasn't configured , it only takes a sec and it's usually automatic on most setups
[13:50]  * frewo64 is away: Zurzeit abwesend
[13:53] <Fleck> help, radeon hd 4870, using open radeon driver, but 3d performance is low, glxgears in full screen (1280x1024) gives me 300fps ;D that how GeFore MX 400 was performing ;P
[13:54] <Fleck> GoForce*
[13:55] <BluesKaj> dunno about the GeFore MX 400, but my nvidia 8400gs does 3d and dri and all the desktop effects without a prob
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Fleck, read above
[13:55] <Fleck> desktop effects are on
[13:56] <Fleck> but performance is bad
[13:56] <Fleck> with fglrx i get distorted mouse cursor etc :D
[13:56] <Fleck> (guess because of dual screen setup)
[13:57] <Fleck> and with fglrx i cant turn on desktop effects
[14:01] <BluesKaj> radeon eh , Fleck ...glxgears runs 70fps here on full scrn, 600 default
[14:01] <Fleck> well with vertical sync yes
[14:02] <Fleck> but try vblank_mode=0 glxgears
[14:02] <BluesKaj> resolution here is 1920x1080
[14:05] <Fleck> BluesKaj whats your video card?
[14:05] <Fleck> ohh
[14:05] <Fleck> 8400gs
[15:31] <Raupio> Hi everyone
[15:31] <domux_> hi !
[15:32] <Guest54072> ciao
[15:32] <Guest54072> c'è qualche italiana
[15:33] <gizmobay> When I plug in a usb flash drive, the files come up in nautalis. How can I change this to dolphin?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, sudo gdm service stop, sudo kdm service start
[15:38] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, let me rephrase that: sudo service gdm stop, sudo service kdm start
[15:38] <mr-rich> Where does kununtu mount usb printers?
[15:47] <mr-rich> looks like netsplit city ...
[15:50] <gizmobay> BluesKaj: I initially installed Ubuntu with Gnome and then added KDE. I ended up using gconf-editor and unchecked media_automount
[15:51] <Raupio> Hi! I'd like to know how to play downloaded video files with sound
[15:51] <Raupio> all the files qork except these ones
[15:52] <Raupio> im using VLC
[15:52] <gizmobay> Raupio: what kind of file is it?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, I suppose you installed kubuntu-desktop
[15:52] <Raupio> an avi
[15:52] <Raupio> its weird
[15:52] <gizmobay> BluesKaj: yes
[15:52] <Raupio> i can play everithing but this  ¿?
[15:52] <gizmobay> Raupio: right mouse click on it and open with vlc or something
[15:53] <Raupio> Im akready with vlc, i tried kaffeine also
[15:53] <BluesKaj> gizmobay, then if you aren't using gnome , then remove ubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <Raupio> I'll reboot
[15:53] <gizmobay> may not have the proper codec
[15:53] <Raupio> any name of codec pack?
[15:53] <gizmobay> BluesKaj: you're probably right I should remove it
[15:54] <gizmobay> try it in mplayer
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Raupio, check the vlc video options/plugins , make sure all relavent codecs are listed there
[15:55] <Raupio> ok im on the way, where can I find a list with all the relevant codecs
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Raupio, and install kubuntu-restricted-extras as well , if you haven't already
[15:56] <Raupio> I Installed kubuntu yesterday, maybe I need more reading hours xD
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Raupio, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras , in the konsole
[15:58] <Raupio> done, but still mute
[16:00] <along> vvvvvvcv
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Raupio, ok, now open the konsole and type alsamixer, then unmute any ctrls with M key by navigating the ctrls with arrow keys to increase and decrease the volume
[16:00] <BluesKaj> as well
[16:04] <Raupio> I did it, nothing changes, it works with mplayer but i wanna figurate whats worng
[16:06] <Raupio> is there any point if I've been trying unsuccessfully the pulse audio app?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Raupio, ok what kind of media are you trying to play ?
[16:07] <Raupio> V 2x02.avi xD
[16:07] <Raupio> with vlc and kaffeine I have no sound, with mplayer i do
[16:08] <BluesKaj> avi should play on any player
[16:08] <Raupio> yeah, i think i have some configuration wrong.... somewhere xD
[16:09] <Raupio> thanks anyway for your help
[16:09] <Raupio> bye
[16:25] <Goliath> hey
[16:25] <Goliath> i get an error report each time i close amarok.
[16:33] <mr-rich> Does anyone know how to unmount a usb printer?
[16:36] <Williamson69[TFD> If anyone knows a lot about Linux and could answer my questions. Please query me. I am a very new user and want to use Linux. Please help me. If you are a Guru on Linux. I would love to talk to you. Please query
[16:38] <tim__> I can't paste into an sftp directory using dolphin after upgrading to Maverick.  I've done remote editing this way for years.  Is there a fix?
[16:39] <yofel> Chiumiento: I would recommend you to ask in #ubuntu-beginners, they know a lot and are always happy to help beginners
[16:39] <yofel> (since there doesn't seem to be anyone around currently that has time)
[16:51] <mr-rich> Chiumiento: what exactly is your problem?
[17:14] <rtdos> shane4ubuntu, are you around?
[17:46] <veluxes> hi, im using mozilla firefox 3.6.13   and i cant watch youtube videos in full screen it just shows me every sec a new picture of the clip..can i do something abou it?
[17:46]  * frewo64 is back.
[17:47] <domux___> have you flash plugin installed ?
[17:49] <veluxes> i dont know i just installed kubuntu for the first time..how can i check?
[17:53] <Anf3t4m1n> hi! when i start kubuntu, on all the desktop appears a shadow of a window.... i think it's a graphical bug... how i can resolve?
[17:53] <veluxes> ok i got it just need to know which ubuntu version.. i got kubuntu 10.10 is it .deb for ubuntu 8.04+ or APT for ubuntu 9.04+
[17:53] <domux___> veluxes: ok open your kpackagekit and type flash then look for adobe flash plugin for mozilla
[17:54] <BluesKaj> veluxes, open the konsole , type , or copy and paste , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:56] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: hi try to install restrited driver for your graphic card if you didn't do it
[17:57] <Anf3t4m1n> domux__: already installed :|
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Anf3t4m1n, which graphics card?
[17:59] <Anf3t4m1n> nvidia 8800 gtx
[18:01] <BluesKaj> Anf3t4m1n, ok reboot , hold down the shift key to get boot grub menu if needed , choose the recovery kernel , then when the dialog box popd up choose fix broken packages , afterwards , startx
[18:01] <Anf3t4m1n> oky
[18:01] <Anf3t4m1n> i try!
[18:03] <Bucky> hello everybody. can you suggest me a KDE (Qt based) voip client with whom using google talk videos? looking for a skype substitute...
[18:06] <domux___> Bucky: hav no idea
[18:06] <domux___> Bucky: skype is quite good !
[18:08] <Bucky> heve issue with it, and the development is still at 2.1 ...
[18:08] <marxjohnson> Bucky: Kopete supports Google Talk, not sure if video works too, but it works on other protocols so worth a shot
[18:08] <petmem> Using KDE 4.5.5 in Kubuntu Maverick.  I can't paste into sftp directory using dolphin or konqueror.  If I install nautilus, I can paste using that.  Any ideas?
[18:09] <Anf3t4m1n> blueskaj.. doesn't work :(
[18:09] <BluesKaj> Anf3t4m1n, explain , "doesn't work "
[18:10] <Anf3t4m1n> the shadow is on my desktop!
[18:10] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: can you take a screen ?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Anf3t4m1n, shadow ?
[18:11] <Anf3t4m1n> yes
[18:11] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: use ksnapshot
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Anf3t4m1n, do you have the recommended nvidia driver installed ?
[18:12] <Anf3t4m1n> yes, i have the recomended driver :(
[18:12] <BluesKaj> which is ?
[18:12] <veluxes> ok i tried both and both ways worked thx but its still not workin..
[18:13] <domux___> veluxes: youtube prob ?
[18:13] <veluxes> ok i tried both ways and installed also some other stuff..but the fullscreen is still not workin
[18:15] <Anf3t4m1n> nvidia driver version: 260.19.06
[18:16] <Anf3t4m1n> azz imageshack doesn't work
[18:17] <Anf3t4m1n> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2954/schermata2i.png
[18:19] <shane4ubuntu> rtdos:
[18:19] <shane4ubuntu> rtdos: yes
[18:19] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: ok thankx
[18:20] <Anf3t4m1n> :-\
[18:20] <shane4ubuntu> BluesKaj: thanks for the help yesterday, we discovered that ifconfig eth0 up is broken and I had to use ifup eth0
[18:20] <Bucky> marxjohnson: kopete seems not to support either voice http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/protocols.html#protocols-gtalk other sugggestions?
[18:20] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: so do you use compiz-fusion ?
[18:20] <marxjohnson> Oh my mistake, just it has a libjingle option in the Jabber settings
[18:21] <Anf3t4m1n> domux___: i think no...
[18:22] <veluxes> domux__: ok i tried both ways and installed also some other stuff..but the fullscreen is still not workin
[18:24] <rtdos> oh, hey, shane4ubuntu, i figured out what my problem was: after installing gnome-desktop some how it confused my system and wouldn't let me login using a wireless connection. i created another account to edit my privs' and made sure i had administrator settings and that my account was able to access wireless devices.
[18:24] <Anf3t4m1n> crush
[18:24] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: ok go to your system setting > Dessktop effect > find Shadows and uncheck it
[18:24] <rtdos> well, actually, i didn't figure it out but did seem to find a work around.
[18:25] <shane4ubuntu> rtdos: good, glad to hear it, although I didn't really help much on that, that was the network manager stuff that I really don't understand myself.
[18:25] <Anf3t4m1n> ok, unchecked...
[18:26] <rtdos> somehow when i installed gnome it either reset my privs that kubuntu gave me by default or confused the system all together.
[18:26] <domux___> veluxes: ok open firefox via the Konsole go to youtube then copy and paste the output
[18:27] <domux___> Anf3t4m1n: ok reboot your X server
[18:28] <veluxes> *** NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (<unknown variable>) in NPN_GetValue()
[18:28] <veluxes> *** NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (<unknown variable>) in NPN_GetValue()
[18:28] <veluxes> *** NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (<unknown variable>) in NPN_GetValue()
[18:28] <FloodBotK2> veluxes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <veluxes> ok sorry
[18:30] <BluesKaj> shane4ubuntu, yeah the ifup command helps :)
[18:31] <shane4ubuntu> BluesKaj: that is what I used to use, and at some point they introduced ifconfig and said ifup was going out of style, so I had forgotten about the ifup command, none the less, got it all working.
[18:32] <domux___> veluxes: hmmm npviewer is the firefox's flash plugin
[18:32]  * BluesKaj scratches his head about shadows , always helps to expalin one problem in more detail
[18:39] <veluxes> ok got to go thnx for the help.....
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Anf3t4m1n, I had the impression you had some kind of dark shadow across your screen , not tunder you mouse cursor or icons
[18:43] <jacksonje> how do you make openoffice fonts look better in kubuntu?
[18:53] <domux___> BluesKaj: the best way might be remove all nvidia driver download the lasted driver then run the sh i think
[19:05] <BluesKaj> domux___, I have a 8000 series card as welland have no probs with the driver so far , think it could be his monitor
[19:07] <domux___> BluesKaj: yea same for me but according to the screen, this shadow don't seem to provide to his monitor maybe im wrong...
[19:08] <BluesKaj> domux___, I'm still wondering what he means by "shadow" ...english isn't his first language so his description of the problem might not be accurate
[19:10] <domux___> BluesKaj: probably
[19:13] <jacksonje> how do I enable lcd subpixel rendering for gnome/gtk apps under kubuntu/kde?
[19:15] <mr-rich> does anyone know of a way to unmount a usb printer w/o unplugging it?
[19:16] <BluesKaj> jacksonje, system settings /application appearance /gtk appearnce /gtk fonts ..change the dpi and fonts etc
[19:21] <domux___> mr-rich: simply unplug it
[19:36] <domux___> anyone know how to assign multimedia key to amarok ?
[19:44] <domux___> ok found i
[19:44] <domux___> it
[19:56] <mr-rich> domux___: unmount it w/o unplugging ... :)
[20:15] <veluxes> hi im back with a lot new trouble not only my fullscreen at youtube isnt workin..after updating and rebooting i cannot hear anything except if i turn the volume of my soundsystem up to max..and even then its very quiet
[20:16] <veluxes> amarok kmix and alsamixer are set to max volume
[20:22] <wachu> hey, I need help
[20:22] <wachu> somebody speek polish?
[20:22] <wachu> anybody?
[20:23] <45PABOLN4> veluxes: type alsamixer in terminal and check if PCM is set to max
[20:23] <crush3r> How do you get the onscreen keyboard to work in Ubuntu 10 Netbook edition. I'm running it on a tablet PC.
[20:24] <veluxes> 45PABOLN4: yes it is.. i set everything to max
[20:24] <wachu> I have problem, I can't run haven and hearth. Game not starting ;/
[20:24] <wachu> can somebody help me?
[20:25] <domux> veluxes: do you hav pavucontrol ?
[20:26] <wachu> omg
[20:26] <veluxes> domux: no whats that? how do i get it
[20:26] <domux> veluxes: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[20:27] <domux> veluxes: its a pulseaudio control center
[20:30] <phoenix_firebrd> i am using kde 4.6 rc2, in that file searching is done using only the index( correct me if am wrong). i need a file searching program which does live searches
[20:30] <veluxes> it displays that the music is running on 100% but still allmost no sound :(
[20:30] <veluxes> domux: it displays that the music is running on 100% but still allmost no sound :(
[20:31] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: almost?
[20:31] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: low volume ?
[20:31] <veluxes> same as befor i have to set my soundsystem to max volume to hear a quiet wisper..
[20:32] <veluxes> and a lot of noise
[20:32] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: have you increased the pcm level?
[20:32] <veluxes> to 100
[20:32] <veluxes> in alsamixer
[20:32] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: laptop or desktop?
[20:32] <veluxes> desktop
[20:32] <veluxes> aureon universe 7.1
[20:33] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: soundcared internal or external?
[20:33] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: what sound card
[20:33] <veluxes> internal
[20:33] <domux> veluxes: aplay -l
[20:34] <veluxes> **** Liste der Hardware-Geräte (PLAYBACK) ****
[20:34] <veluxes> Karte 0: T71Universe [Terratec Aureon 7.1-Universe], Gerät 0: ICE1724 [ICE1724]
[20:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Geräte: 0/1
[20:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[20:34] <veluxes> Karte 0: T71Universe [Terratec Aureon 7.1-Universe], Gerät 1: ICE1724 IEC958 [ICE1724 IEC958]
[20:34] <FloodBotK2> veluxes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Geräte: 1/1
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: what is your kde version?
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: sorry
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: what is your kde version?
[20:35] <veluxes> kubuntu 10.10 ...?
[20:36] <domux> veluxes: its not the kde version :)
[20:36] <veluxes> oh..how do i get it?
[20:37] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: have you tried "pavucontrol"?
[20:38] <veluxes> yes did not work...
[20:38] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: what might be the problem
[20:39] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: you mean you still not able to get a audiable level of volume?
[20:39] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: is it right to discuss about hardware here or should we move to offtopic channel?
[20:39] <veluxes> yes. maybe it has something to do with the auto-updates i ran before the reboot..there were 192
[20:40] <domux> phoenix_firebrd: i dont know
[20:40] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: ok
[20:40] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: are you sure that its not your speaker or amplifier fault
[20:42] <domux> veluxes: kde4-config --version
[20:42] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: in vlc you can increase the volume upto 400%, see that if that works. if there is no change, try to reinstall pulseaudio
[20:43] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: are you there?
[20:44] <veluxes> qt : 4.7.0
[20:44] <DarthFrog> Ribbrt!
[20:44] <veluxes> kde: 4.5.1
[20:45] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: have you tried 4.6 rc2?
[20:45] <DarthFrog> I'm running right now.
[20:45] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: good, i have one doubt, have time?
[20:46] <DarthFrog> For what?
[20:47] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: in phonon->speaker setup -> speaker placement and testing shows some buttons for speaker positions, are they meant to produce sound when press or its just to show the placement
[20:48] <domux> veluxes: until ubuntu use pulseaudio i dont know where the sound config file are !!
[20:48] <yofel> erm, we use pulseaudio?
[20:48] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: /etc/pulse/
[20:49] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: good question, the buttons don't have any effect here either
[20:49] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: Hmm, strange.  I only have a bizarre little icon of a yellow something or other on that page.
[20:50] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: is that app complete?
[20:50] <yofel> phononlogger: are they supposed to do anything?
[20:50] <domux> phoenix_firebrd: ther is nothing important here
[20:51] <phoenix_firebrd> domux: the default.pa contains the pulseaudio settings
[20:52] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: if they intended to show the placement , they wouls have used label, they must have used buttons to produce sound on press like the test sound one
[20:52] <veluxes> i can go up to 200%...but its still very noise and just a bit louder...
[20:52] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: in vlc?
[20:52] <veluxes> in vlc
[20:52] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: did you use the volume increase key
[20:54] <veluxes> yes..
[20:55] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: is the volume normalized?
[20:55] <veluxes> reinstall pulseaudio...how do i do it sudo delete pulsaudio
[20:57] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: will uninstalling pulse break the system?
[20:59] <veluxes> dont think so..checking..
[20:59] <domux> phoenix_firebrd: no
[20:59] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: ok
[20:59] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd: No idea but I doubt it.
[20:59] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: last time i tried , i had no problem
[20:59] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: thank you
[21:00] <DarthFrog> phoenix_firebrd:  Umm, if you've already done it and found out what happens, then why ask me???  :-)
[21:00] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: the command to uninstall "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio"
[21:00] <domux> lool
[21:01] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: i am not sure about that, thats why i asked you. i cant remember if i had dependency issue
[21:01] <veluxes> ok  i will reinstall pulse and reboot...
[21:01] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: use purge
[21:02] <phononlogger> yofel: obviously :P
[21:02] <phononlogger> yofel: talk to coling in #phonon if they do not do anything :P
[21:02] <domux> veluxes: you said you've done an upgrade and then when you've rebooted you got no sound is tha right ?
[21:03] <veluxes> yes
[21:03] <phoenix_firebrd> phononlogger: who is coling
[21:03] <phononlogger> master of pulseaudio in KDE
[21:04] <veluxes> ok and install is sudo apt-get install pulseaudio..?
[21:04] <domux> yep
[21:05] <phoenix_firebrd> phononlogger: i think i read his blog, when i read his blog some time back, he said the new phonon config app is not complete. i thought he might have completed?
[21:05] <veluxes> cool im getting into it ;)
[21:05] <phononlogger> phoenix_firebrd: that post was from forever and ever ago ;)
[21:05] <phononlogger> at any rate it needs to be complete in 4.6, with 4.6 being a stable release, so...
[21:05] <phoenix_firebrd> phononlogger: no that was for kde 4.6
[21:06] <phononlogger> phoenix_firebrd: 4.6 is in development for ever and ever
[21:06] <phononlogger> well, 7 months or so
[21:06] <phoenix_firebrd> phononlogger: jan 26?
[21:06] <phononlogger> phoenix_firebrd: pardon?
[21:06] <phoenix_firebrd> phononlogger: will it be complete then?
[21:07] <yofel> 4.6 release date, well, when more people should start debugging it :P
[21:07] <phononlogger> oh
[21:07]  * phononlogger never knows release dates :P
[21:07] <phononlogger> tagging is what matters
[21:07] <phononlogger> and if someone told colin that it was not working I am sure he would fix it ;)
[21:07] <phoenix_firebrd> phononlogger: i support that
[21:08] <phoenix_firebrd> stablity is important than release dates
[21:09] <yofel> huh? really? then I've obviously been using ubuntu for too long..
[21:10] <phoenix_firebrd> debian??
[21:10] <yofel> ah right, that would count as stable
[21:10] <veluxes> ok now i dont hear anything at all (vlc youtube amarok)
[21:11] <yofel> veluxes: logout and correct phonon settings (output device)
[21:11] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: do volume settings again
[21:11] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: is the pulse deamon started?
[21:13] <veluxes> i dont know im sorry im totally new with this...where can i find it?
[21:14] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: are you using kde 4.6 ?
[21:14] <veluxes> i reset all volume to max still nothing
[21:14] <veluxes> no 4.5.1
[21:14] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: did you restart the system after the install?
[21:14] <veluxes> yes
[21:14] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: I am, 4.6 natty
[21:15] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  do the drag and drop to taskbar( eg. draginf a media file to mimized vlc) work?
[21:16] <yofel> no idea, let me try
[21:16] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: is vlc configured to use pulseaudio?
[21:16] <veluxes> yes
[21:16] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: open phonon settings and check if its shows pulseaudio server
[21:17] <veluxes> pulse is displaying that i should hear a lot
[21:17] <yofel> nope, if I drop it on the systray, nothing happens, if I drop it on the taskbar I get a new launchad in the panel
[21:17] <yofel> *launcher
[21:17] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: bad, its a bug
[21:18] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: 10 days to go , still bugs
[21:20] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262561
[21:21] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: see it says resolved, but ..
[21:21] <yofel> no, it says resolved: duplicate
[21:21] <yofel> it's tracked in kde bug 261443
[21:22]  * yofel adds some votes
[21:22] <phoenix_firebrd> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261443
[21:23] <veluxes> i can opem phonon and it shows me the audio-output devices...but i cannot find settings or a server...
[21:23] <yofel> seems like aaron committed a fix for that today though
[21:23] <veluxes> backend is xine..
[21:23] <phoenix_firebrd> ya
[21:24] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: volume low or no sound
[21:24] <yofel> veluxes: you're on maverick right? it should show a 'internal analog stereo' as output device
[21:24] <veluxes> no sound since last reboot
[21:25] <veluxes> it shows multi channel audio controller  analog surround 7.1
[21:26] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: pavucontrol and configure the device and volume
[21:27] <yofel> veluxes: it should look like this if pulseaudio is running http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/pulse.png (that's my view at least)
[21:30] <veluxes> i just got analog stereo duplex, analog stereo output and analog stereo +digital stereo
[21:30] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: select analog stereo duplex
[21:31] <veluxes> and it looks different cause here it says in phonon  envy24pt/ht analog stereo
[21:32] <veluxes> no doesnt work...
[21:33] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: what does aplay -l say?
[21:34] <veluxes> Karte 0: T71Universe [Terratec Aureon 7.1-Universe], Gerät 0: ICE1724 [ICE1724]
[21:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Geräte: 0/1
[21:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[21:34] <veluxes> Karte 0: T71Universe [Terratec Aureon 7.1-Universe], Gerät 1: ICE1724 IEC958 [ICE1724 IEC958]
[21:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Geräte: 1/1
[21:34] <FloodBotK2> veluxes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <veluxes>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[21:35] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes:  use the paste.ubuntu.com link, there paste the output. give the result link
[21:36] <veluxes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553353/
[21:36] <veluxes> thx..didn want to send an email
[21:40] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes:  remote desktop?
[21:40] <veluxes> yes if you like
[21:41] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: install the teamviewer software
[21:41] <veluxes> but my system runs in german...
[21:41] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: so?
[21:41] <veluxes> i just thought this could be a prob..
[21:42] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: unstall teamviewer and tell me
[21:42] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: install teamviewer and tell me
[21:43] <veluxes> ok... with sudo apt-get install teamviewer it says package not found
[21:43] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[21:45] <veluxes> which one dep 64bit?
[21:45] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: try 32 first
[21:46] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: or which ever is correct for your processor
[21:48] <veluxes> ok got it
[21:49] <veluxes> need an ip..do u need mine to?
[21:50] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: send it to my email.
[21:50] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: phoenix_firebrd@yahoo.com
[21:51] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: email the id and password, shown in that app
[21:52] <veluxes> ok send it
[21:52] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: got it
[21:58] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: open the task manager
[22:00] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: what happened?
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: what happened?
[22:02] <veluxes_> sorry it crashed couldnt tip anything but it was very load as i rebooted... i will try again
[22:03] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: ok
[22:05] <veluxes> and no sound
[22:05] <veluxes> and no sound
[22:05] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: can we try again?
[22:05] <veluxes> teamview again? maybe it doesnt crash thistime
[22:05] <veluxes> oke
[22:07] <veluxes> sent..
[22:08] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: got it
[22:16] <Bauldrick> anyone want to troubleshoot a hp 3050 printer with me? It installs, kubuntu sends print job to it, kubuntu says its printed, but printer does nothing?
[22:17] <Bauldrick> i've tried through kubuntu settings, and using hplip, both have the same result - either via usb or wifi
[22:29] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: can you use the system without pulseaudio?
[22:29] <yofel> Bauldrick: I've seen that on my network printer here, HP too, it usually does print half an hour later or so, but I haven't really figured out why it does that
[22:30] <yofel> doesn't happen every time too
[22:30] <veluxes> did not try
[22:30] <veluxes> we can if u like
[22:30] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: the sound will work
[22:30] <veluxes> ok so ill uninstall pulseaudio
[22:30] <Bauldrick> yofel: is that when using the usb connection also?
[22:31] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: the same command "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio"
[22:31] <veluxes> thx
[22:31] <yofel> haven't tried that, I usually get to print it what I need so I just left it
[22:31] <veluxes> ok ill reboot
[22:31] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: ok
[22:33] <Bauldrick> yofel: well, this sucks :( - the only action I seem to get from printer is when using 'clean cartridges' in hp device manager. thats the only time the printer responds (makes a noise) to anything, I'm 64bit would that be something?
[22:34] <veluxes> hm doesnt work..
[22:35] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: then pulseaudio is not the problem
[22:35] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes:  now 3 to go
[22:35] <veluxes> :)
[22:35] <veluxes> ok
[22:35] <veluxes> teamview
[22:36] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: 1. alsa  2. you soundcard 3. you amplifier or speaker system
[22:36] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: i dont know much in alsa, try that alsa channel
[22:38] <veluxes> Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
[22:39] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: alsa-utils restart
[22:41] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: are you there?"
[22:41] <veluxes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553381/
[22:41] <veluxes> yes still pasting...
[22:41] <veluxes> it failed
[22:42] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: can you try this again "speaker-test -Dplug:surround71 -c8 -l1 -twav"
[22:44] <veluxes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/553382/
[22:44] <veluxes> same as before
[22:45] <veluxes> ttp://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=&ie=UTF-8&text=%0D%0AWiedergabe-Gerät+ist+plug%3Asurround71%0D%0AStream-Parameter+sind+48000+Hz%2C+S16_LE%2C+8+Kanäle%0D%0AWAV-Datei(en)%0D%0ARate+ist+48000+Hz+(angefordert%3A+48000+Hz)%0D%0APuffergröße+von+4+bis+8192%0D%0APeriodengröße+von+2+bis+4096%0D%0AVerwende+maximale+Puffergröße+8192%0D%0APerioden+%3D+4%0D%0AFehler+beim+Setzen+der+Hardware-
[22:45] <veluxes> Parameter%3A+Das+Gerät+oder+die+Ressource+ist+belegt%0D%0AFehler+beim+Setzen+der+Hardware-Parameter%3A+Das+Gerät+oder+die+Ressource+ist+belegt%0D%0A&sl=de&tl=en#
[22:49] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: did you mess up with the alsa settings?
[22:49] <veluxes> no
[22:49] <veluxes> i just upgraded and rebooted
[22:52] <veluxes> hm maybe i reset the system and try rebooting without upgrading if its working its because of the update
[22:52] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: i am not able to solve your problem. try the alsa channel
[22:53] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: ya try rebooting
[22:53] <veluxes> ok but thx anyway when i find a fix i tell you
[22:53] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: are you going to reboot
[22:53] <veluxes> thx
[22:53] <veluxes> yes
[22:53] <veluxes> right away
[22:59] <veluxes> ok for now its working i tried reboot and shut-down/turn on both gave sound with amarok but no opener but i can live with that thanks a lot
[23:00] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: welcome
[23:00] <veluxes> cu around got kind of late...
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> veluxes: ya, bye, have a nice day
[23:01] <stalcup> what's the default password on a kubuntu live cd?
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup: why do you need?
[23:01] <stalcup> gparted needs a password
[23:01] <veluxes> bye u too
[23:03] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup:try starting gparted from konsole
[23:04] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup: sudo gparted
[23:04] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup: if password is asked, simply press enter
[23:04] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup: i think you wont be asked for a password
[23:05] <stalcup> phoenix_firebrd: well, no way to launch it in konsole
[23:05] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup: why?
[23:06] <stalcup> because it wont launch
[23:06] <phoenix_firebrd> stalcup: have you tried?
[23:19] <Scunizi> Where do I put a <filename>.desktop file in the system to create a menu launcher?
[23:22] <James147> Scunizi: I believe at .config/menus/applications-merged  but am not sure (run "kbuildsycoca4 --menutest" to rebuild the menus)
[23:22] <Roey> hello
[23:22] <Roey> is this the channel for getting help on KDE 4.6 RC2 ?
[23:23] <James147> Scunizi: note also you can create *.desktop files placed in the right location via right clcik kmenu > edit menu (or by running kmenuedit)
[23:23] <Scunizi> James147: hummm ok.. I'll take a look.  I did a search for other's and a lot are on .kde/share/apps/
[23:23] <James147> Roey: you can ask here, or at #kde
[23:23] <Scunizi> James147: but editing the menu directly to add a launcher might just be easier.
[23:23] <Roey> ok
[23:24] <Roey> James147:  it's just that every single time I ask, I get bounced to somewhere else.
[23:24] <Roey> so here:
[23:25] <Roey> James147:  I find that none of my Keyboard Settings are respected ([x] make capslock an additinal control, [x] two shift keys together to change language layout, keyboard repeat rate and timeout, etc.) even though they appear to be configured correctly in the Keyboard Settings dialog.
[23:26] <James147> Roey: did they use to work before?
[23:26] <Roey> yes!
[23:27] <Roey> James147:  yes! up until 4.6b1 !!
[23:27] <Roey> James147:  it's driving me insane...
[23:27] <James147> Roey: Then I would first suggest you try a new user, see if they work for them
[23:27] <Roey> James147:  I tried with a new user, and saw that this problem affects it too
[23:27] <Roey> James147:  I do not have this problem on my intel box at work
[23:27] <Roey> running the same distro
[23:28] <James147> Roey: hmm, then its likly a bug... have you checked to see if its been reported?
[23:28] <Roey> I don't know what to check ofr even.
[23:28] <Scunizi> James147: editing the menu directly worked like a champ.. thanks
[23:29] <James147> Roey: https://bugs.kde.org/  would be a good start
[23:29] <Roey> :P
[23:29] <Roey> thanks
[23:29] <Roey> I meant what is the name of the module
[23:29] <James147> !bugs
[23:29] <James147> ^^ or there
[23:30] <James147> Roey: sorry I cant be of more help, I have never used those settings :)
[23:30] <Roey> it's ok.
[23:30] <Roey> it's one of those fucking bugs that seems to affect >only< me
[23:30] <Roey> for some reason.
[23:30] <Roey> the one before this was an nvidia issue that iddn't get resolved till the beginning of the month, and it had been that way for a year now.