[00:08] Yippie, build fixed! [00:08] Project db-devel build (263): FIXED in 4 hr 47 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/db-devel/263/ [00:31] Hi. I need someone to review a fix for bug #367877 if anyone is available. [00:31] <_mup_> Bug #367877: Tabbing between links does not highlight them

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/367877 > [00:33] anyone doing Launchpad development in natty? [00:33] jml: Yes. [00:33] jml: yep [00:33] jml: It mostly works. [00:33] There are a couple of easy ways to make it work a little more, too. [00:33] But it [00:33] 's not perfect. [00:33] cool. ec2 land just errored on me. [00:34] Sure that's not the launchpadlib issue? [00:34] it is a launchpadlib issue. not sure about "the" [00:34] A NameError? [00:34] yeah [00:34] NameError: global name 'AuthorizeRequestTokenWithBrowser' is not defined [00:34] The. [00:34] same here [00:34] bugger. [00:34] Well, 'The' as in the original. [00:34] Pull devel. [00:34] Is fixed. [00:34] That doesn't mean it will work, though. [00:34] sweet. [00:34] well, baby steps. [00:35] Because the new launchpadlib has some... other issues. [00:35] You'll need to remake once you pull. [00:35] :( [00:35] But if your system is untainted by KDE you should be OK. [00:36] I have a lot of Qt stuff installed. [00:36] I guess the worse that can happen is that it fails. [00:36] beautiful [00:36] it oopsed [00:36] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'is_reviewed'
[00:38] huwshimi: what's the MP url? [00:38] jml: Traceback? [00:38] That sounds almost like a celebrity issue. [00:38] wgrant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553026/ [00:38] Oh. [00:38] That is_reviewed. [00:39] jml: Sorry, what's a MP? [00:39] Which test? There are some odd natty failures like that. [00:39] huwshimi: a merge proposal [00:39] huwshimi: after you've created a branch, you should create a merge proposal, which is a place to discuss the patch and the changes. there's a link on the branch page. [00:40] wgrant: uhh, there's no test involved. [00:40] wgrant: that was when I authorized my laptop [00:40] jml: Well, that is awesome. [00:40] wgrant: yeah, I'm going to file a bug. [00:40] jml: You might want to talk to relevant people first. [00:41] launchpadlib in LP hasn't really worked for a week or so now. [00:41] It may be known. [00:41] jml: Yeah, I haven't created one yet... I didn't have a reviewer, but I can create it without filling that in if it helps. [00:41] wgrant: hmm. [00:41] I haven't seen that particular error before. [00:41] huwshimi: yeah. do that. there's a default reviewer which is the whole LP team [00:41] or the canonical part of it anyway [00:41] jml: OK thanks. [00:41] wgrant: it's easy enough to mark bugs as invalid [00:41] wgrant: it also appeared to actually authorize [00:42] jml: Target branch should just be lp:launchpad right? [00:42] huwshimi: yep [00:43] hmm [00:44] jml: Do any of your Product Strategies happen to include making Soyuz less broken, or deleting it or something? [00:44] wgrant: yes. derivative distributions. [00:44] They just stack more brokenness on the perilously stacked brokenness. [00:45] wgrant: that's an implementation approach [00:45] wgrant: an alternative approach is to use it as an opportunity to clean stuff before you add new things [00:45] which is entirely cromulent [00:45] jml: But there is no time :( [00:45] sod that [00:45] it's not true [00:46] there's no deadline [00:46] Perhaps this will change on Monday :) [00:46] and doing some cleanup will make the dev go faster [00:46] Long-term, sure. [00:46] even in the shorter term [00:46] But it's clear that nobody in Soyuz has ever though about long-term before :) [00:46] jml: Here is the MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~huwshimi/launchpad/highlight-links-367877/+merge/45947 [00:46] The rest of LP, I don't know. [00:46] if you're working on a feature for three or so months with even two or three people, that's long enough to make cleanup worthwhile [00:47] and it's not like Soyuz is going away [00:47] :( [00:47] I'm not saying that it should be made perfect before we add anything, but there's always time to do things right. [00:48] sinzui: you've done a lot of stuff w/ our CSS before, interested in reviewing huwshimi's change? https://code.launchpad.net/~huwshimi/launchpad/highlight-links-367877/+merge/45947 [00:49] huwshimi: oh, I forgot about #launchpad-reviews [00:49] huwshimi: that's another place to ask for reviews [00:49] jml: ok should I head over there and ask now then? [00:49] huwshimi: although I personally prefer here, because I'm not sure what a dev channel is for other than discussing code changes :) [00:49] huwshimi: sure. [00:50] jml: How goes the rally? [00:50] wgrant: pretty well. [00:51] wgrant: it's not as talk-y as UDS, so less of me doing the listening part of my job, but it's still good to be here. [00:52] jml: I don't suppose you can see bigjools [00:52] jml: When asking for a review is the MP the most important bit of information to provide? [00:52] thumper: not from here. I think he's in the UK. [00:52] huwshimi: yeah. [00:53] huwshimi: as long as the MP has a decent description [00:53] thumper: bigjools is asleep. [00:53] wgrant: ah [00:53] ok [00:53] thumper: What's up? [00:53] wgrant: I was going to get him to look at my changes for the builds' urls [00:53] wgrant: I implemented his suggestion [00:54] so it seems only fair that he reviews it :) [00:54] * thumper goes to add him on the MP [00:54] thumper: while you're here, can I interest you in reviewing huwshimi's branch? [00:55] the css one above? [00:55] thumper: Ah, right. [00:55] * jml really needs to go get food [00:55] thumper: yeah. [00:55] thumper: He disappeared about an hour ago. [00:55] I'm not a ui reviewer [00:55] thumper: OK thanks [00:55] thumper: does that still matter? [00:55] for UI stuff? [00:55] perhaps not [00:55] * jml doesn't know [00:56] wgrant: cleanup++ [00:56] thumper: if there's no UI reviewer in asiapac, and we're going to block UI branches on UI reviewers, then I guess I have a new problem to solve :) [00:56] I would like to unblock that [00:56] crisistunity! [00:57] * thumper recommends one or two aussies do it [00:58] There are lots of us now! [00:59] * jml reviews [01:00] lifeless: The problem is that there is so much cleanup that needs doing, and a lot of it isn't a drive-by sort of thing. :( [01:00] huwshimi: did you make some whitespace changes? [01:02] huwshimi: anyway, it's good to land as far as I'm concerned. [01:03] huwshimi: I've got to head, but if you need help figuring out how to land it, I'm sure either your fellow Aussie colleagues or our fine friends across the Tasman will be able to help. [01:03] jml: No I just noticed those in the diff too. The strange thing is the CSS is not indented in those files. [01:03] jml: Thanks, have a good night [01:04] will do. [01:04] * jml out [01:52] Hi. Is anyone around who can explain how I land a branch for Launchpad? I have an approved MP. [01:55] huwshimi: Because the test suite takes so long, we normally run it on Amazon EC2. See https://dev.launchpad.net/EC2Test for setup and usage details. [01:55] huwshimi: ec2test automatically lands the branch when it's done. [01:55] Although you might not have PQM access yet. [01:55] Do you know if you do? [01:55] wgrant: Thanks. I don't know. [01:56] he does not [01:56] there is / was a starter document that explained what you need to do to get that [01:56] oh hai [01:56] lifeless: while you're here - how does the qastaging DB get updated? is that a manual only thing? or is it wrapped up in a place I've not yet looked? [01:57] spm: should happen when staging is updated [01:57] ahh. I assumed it wasn't. ta. [01:57] Note that the last full staging restore failed, so it's been a while. [01:57] spm: original concept was - copy over, restore to one, run patches, restore to other. [01:57] spm: as to what scripts etc - I have -no- idea, no visibility at all. [01:58] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-losas/lp-staging-scripts/trunk [01:59] be ware. eyeballs may explode. [01:59] spm: s/edge.// in your history, plox. [02:00] spm: also, when doth that redirect kick in? [02:00] yeah. just old urls in quick search :-) [02:00] I was hoping to get it done yesterday, but dragged awy. likewise today. :-/ [02:00] * lifeless offers superglue for the fingers [02:01] spm: bug 457026 [02:01] <_mup_> Bug #457026: bzrsyncd on loganberry using unnecessary amounts of /tmp space

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/457026 > [02:01] is that still happening? [02:01] StevenK: The WTFery may be continuing. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/ shows that the .debs are gone, but some of the .udebs remain. p-d-r logs say they were removed, and it finished before the mirroring started... can you check if pool/main/l/linux/acpi-modules-2.6.24-28-386-di_2.6.24-28.83_i386.udeb is still on cocoplum? [02:02] lifeless: yes [02:02] spm: even though we've removed the mirrored area? [02:03] lifeless: ? isn't the mirrored area on crowberry? [02:03] we got rid of having a mirrored area [02:03] oh right [02:03] I gets it [02:03] https://pastebin.canonical.com/41796/ [02:04] just an extract. not the full thing. [02:04] bumped to high [02:05] ta [02:06] flacoste: hi [02:06] flacoste: if you're still around, who wrote trac-launchpad-migrator ? [02:07] Wasn't it Fluendo? [02:08] gmb [02:08] https://code.launchpad.net/~launchpad/trac-launchpad-migrator/trunk [02:09] The VCS history isn't reliable. [02:09] It wasn't originally in that branch. [02:09] Although the copyright headers could be useful. [02:09] * wgrant checks. [02:09] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad/trac-launchpad-migrator/trunk/annotate/head:/migrate.py [02:09] Fluendo. [02:09] ah [02:09] thanks [02:11] wgrant: perhaps you have an opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/trac-launchpad-migrator/+bug/461669, since you seem to know some history [02:11] <_mup_> Bug #461669: Attachments are looked for in the wrong directory < https://launchpad.net/bugs/461669 > [02:11] jelmer: ^ [02:13] wgrant: Just setting up ec2test and at this part https://dev.launchpad.net/EC2Test#setup it talks about setting up my own developer account etc. I assume that's all relevant to me? [02:13] lifeless: I think that might require some Trac knowledge, and I haven't admin'd a Trac instance in like 5 years. I'm probably not the best person to ask. [02:13] huwshimi: Yeah. [02:14] huwshimi: You need an AWS account. [02:15] wgrant: Thanks [02:17] wgrant: can you expand on whats up in bug 438336 ? [02:17] <_mup_> Bug #438336: Packages still show up on builders page after they are done

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/438336 > [02:19] lifeless: Bug #438336 [02:19] <_mup_> Bug #438336: Packages still show up on builders page after they are done

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/438336 > [02:19] thanks [02:20] spm: in bug 431235 - we're now running HA loggerhead, do you know if its single-source-tree or not ? [02:20] <_mup_> Bug #431235: Allow us to run multiple loggerhead instances from the same codetree

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/431235 > [02:20] separate tree [02:20] trees [02:27] I can't see bug 431235 :-/ [02:27] <_mup_> Bug #431235: Allow us to run concurrent loggerhead instances from the same codetree

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/431235 > [02:27] probably because it's bugtask is targetted to a deactivated project [02:28] * cody-somerville hugs lifeless [02:28] maxb: fixed [02:31] maxb: and the 5 other ones similarly [02:31] cody-somerville: thanks? [02:31] lifeless, You're welcome. :-) [02:33] james_w: bug 395200 [02:33] <_mup_> Bug #395200: Allow linking a package upload to a bzr revision < https://launchpad.net/bugs/395200 > [02:36] jml: ping [02:36] spm: hi [02:37] yo [02:37] spm: can you please change the maintainer of https://launchpad.net/qa-tagger to be ~launchpad ? [02:38] lifeless: done [02:38] thanks [02:40] matsubara-afk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oops-tools/+bug/701762 [02:40] <_mup_> Bug #701762: "No Production OOPSes found for 2011-01-11. " < https://launchpad.net/bugs/701762 > [02:48] . [03:03] spm: is bug 660854 still present? [03:03] <_mup_> Bug #660854: importds are spamming log messages

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/660854 > [03:04] that was in the early days of the new logging stuff, it may be good now? /me hopes [03:08] is bug 556132 now available for testing on staging or qastaging? [03:08] <_mup_> Bug #556132: bzr: ERROR: paramiko.SSHException: Key-exchange timed out; consistent after sending 1GB data

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/556132 > [03:08] you can check by looking at the MP to see what rev in devel it got, and at the revno on the qastaging pages [03:14] lifeless: Hi. [03:15] hi [03:15] lifeless: I need a memoization decorator. Do we have one that I'm missing, or should I create a PropertyCache-based one? [03:16] what for [03:16] lifeless: Archive.getComponentsForSeries. [03:16] and how is that different to just @cachedproperty [03:16] @cachedproperty doesn't do arguments. [03:16] ah [03:17] you could fix that [03:18] It turns a method into a property, though. [03:18] true that [03:18] refactor and reuse [03:18] That was my plan. [03:18] no, I don't think we have a canned one [03:18] Thanks. [03:18] Seems odd. [03:19] and we'd want cache clearing so using PC is appropriate [03:19] But I guess performance wasn't much of a concern until recently. [03:19] Yep. [03:19] we have a list-memoiser and odd bespoke bits like that [03:19] wgrant: I'm curious why you need to memoise gCFS [03:19] but am too tired and buggered to understand the answer today. [03:20] lifeless: We want to do a component check during copies. [03:20] To make sure we're not creating invalid publications. [03:20] sure [03:21] I've found previously that making the whole thing more set based is generally a bigger win than caching at points [03:21] Possibly, yes. [03:21] see e.g. the stuff I did to Archive:+index [03:21] But it's not clear how best to encapsulate this in a set-based approach. [03:21] I encourage you to examine the changes I did there for inspiration [03:22] Set-based would be nice. [03:22] But it requires a restructure of the publisher and copiers. [03:22] All the way up. [03:24] Mmm, I suppose I could see how just setifying the lower parts works. [03:24] It's not going to be great, though :/ [03:41] wgrant: well thats how we get set based in the entire stack [03:41] wgrant: one little bit, then add more, then more etc [03:41] wgrant: otherwise the *best* we can achieve is that we only do one just-in-time lookup per left-hand object [03:41] wgrant: which frankly still sucks [03:45] wgrant: Before you were saying about needing PQM access. Any ideas about how to get it? I couldn't find anything (also apologies for all the hassling). [03:45] lifeless: You have convinced me to rework most of it :( [03:46] huwshimi: "all the"? You exaggerate. [03:46] huwshimi: But as for PQM access, an RT ticket to the Launchpad queue should do it. [03:46] Let me find the email address... [03:46] wgrant: Thanks mate :) [03:48] huwshimi: A signed email to launchpad@rt.canonical.com with your public OpenPGP key attached. [03:48] And then possibly a couple of pokes thrown in spm's direction to expedite processing :P [03:48] don't forget to use the magic words [03:48] wgrant: Ah well I've already sent one of them... I guess on to the poking. [03:52] Oh actually I haven't sent one to that address [03:53] Just ask to be added to the LP PQM keyring. [03:53] and config file [03:53] it should be all documented on rocketfuel setup in the internal wiki [04:01] poolie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/701186 [04:29] yeah. use the magic word. I don't do nuffin without the magic word. [04:30] jml: please refine the importance on https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/695606 [04:30] <_mup_> Bug #695606: recipes shouldn't build if a build was triggered by hand for the set PPA and nothing has changed < https://launchpad.net/bugs/695606 > [04:32] spm: is bug 660854 still present? <== yes [04:32] <_mup_> Bug #660854: importds are spamming log messages

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/660854 > [04:34] ugh. we're not compressing/rotating the spew log that's collecting those. [04:43] sinzui: hi [04:43] actually [04:43] yeah sinzui - https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/697364 - maybe you have a hunch ? [04:43] <_mup_> Bug #697364: pop up diff display (e.g. in bug pages) of merge proposal exceeds entire window and is not scrollable (css brain damage) < https://launchpad.net/bugs/697364 > [04:52] lifeless: Timing suggests the YUI upgrade. [04:52] Would not suprise me [04:53] I think the tag autocompleter glitch is also that. [04:53] But it may just be a Chromium dev build thing. [04:53] the bug above I can reproduce [04:53] tag autcompleter on mav chrome is -fine- [04:58] spm: please change the maintainer on https://launchpad.net/lp-qa-tools too [04:59] done [04:59] thanks! [05:03] maxb: is bug 663195 common ? [05:03] <_mup_> Bug #663195: CVS import fails for b2evolution project: cscvs.cmds.totla.ValidationFailed: directories differ < https://launchpad.net/bugs/663195 > [05:11] \o/ no NEW bugs [05:11] bah, 2 NEW bugs. [05:11] nearly-no. [05:14] lifeless: no idea, I'm afraid - generally I try to avoid looking at cscvs :-) [05:17] :) [05:36] * huwshimi is done for the day === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:31] good morning === jtv-afk is now known as jtv === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [11:17] lifeless, thanks. I'll look into it === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [13:06] deryck: Do you have a second to run a query on staging for me? === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [13:12] gmb, definitely === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [13:13] deryck: https://pastebin.canonical.com/41807/, please. I'm trying to get to the bottom of bug 700490 [13:13] <_mup_> Bug #700490: Incorrect email address presented when merging accounts < https://launchpad.net/bugs/700490 > [13:23] gmb, no results. [13:28] deryck: Probably the staging db was too out of date. Okay, thanks. [13:28] gmb, np. sorry it wasn't much help. [13:29] deryck: Out of interest, can you just try https://pastebin.canonical.com/41808/. [13:30] sure [13:30] gmb, 3278 rows. Would you like to see them? [13:31] deryck: Sure. [13:33] gmb, https://pastebin.canonical.com/41809/ [13:34] deryck: Ta [13:34] np === henninge_ is now known as henninge [14:27] jtv: what's up with your system/connection? [14:27] Something with the wireless router, I think. [15:01] abentley, adeuring, allenap , bac, benji, danilo, sinzui, deryck, EdwinGrubbs, flacoste, gary, gmb, henninge, jelmer, jcsackett, jtv, bigjools, leonard, mars, mrevell [15:01] : meeting ping [15:01] ack thx [15:01] thanks [15:01] thanks [15:01] me [15:01] heh [15:07] hmm [15:07] the ec2 land run I submitted last night passed, but did not submit to PQM [15:08] mrevell: good morning :) [15:08] Hey there jml [15:08] jml: pqm is borked, I'm discussing it with mthaddon [15:08] you might be able to help, it's failing when importing testtools [15:08] bigjools: oh, that sucks. but that doesn't explain why ec2 land didn't even *try* to send to PQM [15:09] oh, seems awfully coincident, are you sure? [15:09] oh, no, my bad. [15:09] SUBMITTED TO PQM: [15:09] [r=jml][ui=none][no-qa] Upgrade to testtools 0.9.8 final [15:09] however, that might be even more co-incident. [15:10] haq [15:10] bigjools: where are the details of the current PQM issue [15:10] jml: https://pastebin.canonical.com/41803/ [15:11] needs losa intervention [15:12] lifeless: of what kind? I installed python-testtools (why is it suddenly needed?) and then we got a subunit import error [15:12] mthaddon: will need subunit as well [15:12] mthaddon: spm upgraded the pqm version on prase last week [15:12] lifeless: but we've had successful submissions since then, no? [15:13] lifeless: python-subunit ? [15:13] mthaddon: I wouldn't expect so [15:13] lifeless: logs suggest we had one about 12 hours ago, but anyway... I can install python-subunit [15:14] rockstar: make me an admin so that I can add new members https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-ui-reviewers/+members [15:14] lifeless, bigjools: ok, python-subunit installed - bigjools, can you try a resubmit? [15:14] mthaddon: thanks [15:15] ok [15:16] iz sent [15:20] flacoste: we're triaged https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New ! [15:20] flacoste: should I update the bug triage wiki page per my proposal ? [15:20] lifeless: thanks a lot! [15:20] flacoste: or do you want to wait for the epic? It didn't seem to be as hot a topic as you thought it might be [15:21] lifeless: yeah, i was surprised by that [15:21] deryck: would love your input on bug 120357 [15:21] <_mup_> Bug #120357: Improve the accept/decline/nochange column on +nominations < https://launchpad.net/bugs/120357 > [15:21] i wonder if it's because people are in agreement [15:22] lifeless: but do update it, we can always refine it later [15:22] kk [15:23] lifeless, ok, I'll take a look. [15:23] deryck: thanks! [15:29] bac, so this is what you were talking about for the Thunderdome? http://www.theweathernetwork.com/your_weather/details/620/2190343/4/ustx0327/plpcities/ [15:30] bac, oops, that was posted in March! nevermind === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [15:31] mars: i'm sure you'll not even think it is chilly [15:32] According to the Weather Network the forecast is 19F with 9F after windchill - that is not fun for a sweater [15:33] I didn't know you even had weather like that so far south [15:33] * gary_poster knew someone who (my wife reports, as roommate) used to open the bathroom window in January after a shower, living in Rochester NY. She was from Minnesota. *She* wouldn't think it was chilly. === gary_poster is now known as gary-afk [15:34] mars: it's a shorter winter, but it's still a nasty one in dallas. dallas is in the more northern, wetter part of texas. [15:35] mars: Some of us believe the planners of the platform assumed Texas is always hot [15:35] lol [15:35] sinzui, it appears I am guilty of such as well [15:35] * sinzui was hoping for Cancun. [15:36] sinzui: you need to bribe marianna [15:36] she can come [15:36] for next year [15:36] oh, she's there all right === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:43] flacoste: NZ! :) [15:43] lifeless: getting 300 people to NZ isn't very cost effective :-/ [15:44]

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