[01:21] <BUGabundo> night
[04:25] <dabbill> i just installed 11.04, the normal desktop with the launcher on the left works fine, but the classic desktop wont allow me to change themes, the windows change but the menu bars dont change
[05:03] <dabbill> i just installed 11.04, the normal desktop with the launcher on the left works fine, but the classic desktop wont allow me to change themes, the windows change but the menu bars dont change
[11:17] <dracotux> hey guys i'm new to ubuntu
[11:17] <dracotux> can anybody help me installling my printer?
[11:21] <dracotux> brother dcp-375 cw, someone please help me
[11:22] <dracotux> can't get it installed
[11:24] <qzio> dracotux: are you using the alpha release of ubuntu called natty?
[11:25] <dracotux> no
[11:25] <dracotux> the other one
[11:26] <dracotux> 10.04 lucid lynx
[11:31] <qzio> reat the topic
[11:31] <qzio> s/reat/read
[11:32] <qzio> this channel is for natty stuff. you're more likely to get answers in #ubuntu. Please ask your question there.
[11:33] <dracotux> ok, thnx for that, try it there as well
[11:33] <DJKorbit> good morning
[11:33] <DJKorbit> maybe you can help me on this, since i haven't found a solution
[11:33] <DJKorbit> can i define a different sources.list to be used by apt-get
[11:34] <DJKorbit> to be able to use apt-get as a regular user?
[12:01] <qzio> DJKorbit: i Don't think a different sources.list will enable you to install packages as a general user.
[12:05] <DJKorbit> i don't want to install packages
[12:05] <DJKorbit> i just want to apt-get source
[12:05] <DJKorbit> i'll explain what i want to do
[12:06] <DJKorbit> i'm involved in the development of a portuguese ubuntu based distro
[12:06] <DJKorbit> we were using mandriva but the next version will be ubuntu based
[12:06] <DJKorbit> i'm using apt-mirror to mirror natty
[12:07] <DJKorbit> from the NEW file generated by apt-mirror with the listing of all downloaded files i want to filter the names of all downloaded packages
[12:08] <DJKorbit> for each package i want to replace the new code with our existing code in our svn repo
[12:08] <DJKorbit> so, i want to exec a "apt-get source <package>" and commit the files i get to our svn server
[12:10] <DJKorbit> since i'm currently using a mandriva machine i'll have to install apt-get on my user space and run it against a sources.list that should point to my new repo created by apt-mirror
[12:10] <DJKorbit> got the point?
[12:13] <DJKorbit> i think i have an alternative to using apt-get source
[12:16] <DJKorbit> maybe fetch the files directly from the mirrored repo
[13:25] <edgy> Hi, I have alc888 and surround is not working. I tried options snd-hda-intel model=targa-8ch-dig but now no sound at all. I think this is a regression because previously it's working
[13:27] <edgy> this is the default alsa-info output http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2fab86ace94244ab056c79277bb93964df124249
[13:30] <susundberg> edgy: i would suggest making bug raport
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:34] <susundberg> BluesKaj: hi
[13:36] <BluesKaj> hi susundberg
[13:36] <edgy> susundberg: ok
[13:37] <edgy> susundberg: it's already there at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/642230
[13:37] <susundberg> ok
[13:53] <BluesKaj> susundberg, interesting , you're in my Dad's hometown :)
[13:56] <susundberg> BluesKaj: You net stalker! ;)
[13:56] <Amaranth> BluesKaj: Madison, WI is where the server he connects to is located :)
[13:57] <susundberg> oh true, you got my by suprise, i am connected from uni ssh server
[13:58] <susundberg> and where i am connected there to you would need uni server access ..
[13:58] <susundberg> which offcourse you might have
[13:58] <susundberg> but yes, i am at the same city my server is.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> nice , i visited turku as a small child , I was born in kaavi , moved to Canada when I was just 4yrs old
[14:04] <susundberg> Oh! Come to visit me here and i can show you around. We are currenly even culture capital 2011
[14:04] <susundberg> (in europe)
[14:04] <susundberg> http://www.turku.fi/Public/default.aspx?contentid=231822&nodeid=23
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Amaranth, I just do traceroute then the last IP lookup at  http://ip-whois-lookup.com/lookup.php?ip=
[15:14] <coz_> hey guys, with classic gnome I see the icons on the desktop are space about 100 pixels from the left edge of the screen  as if  Unity was used...   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/icons.png    any way around this?
[16:01] <evilvish> does anyone remember how to change the notify-osd slot allocation to dynamic? instead of the fixed slots.. iirc there was a gconf key somewhere..
[16:07] <zniavre_> don't you need a patched notify stuff?
[16:07] <evilvish> zniavre_: oh? i thought it was an option and we needed to just add the gconf
[16:08] <evilvish>  similar to the gravity one
[16:08] <coz_> hey guys, with classic gnome I see the icons on the desktop are space about 100 pixels from the left edge of the screen  as if  Unity launcher was in use...   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/icons.png    any way around this?
[16:08] <zniavre_> wow that is a huge screen
[16:09] <coz_> zniavre_,  dual monitors  :)
[16:09] <zniavre_> yeah
[16:10] <zniavre_> evilvish, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/finally-easy-way-to-customize-notify.html
[16:12] <evilvish> zniavre_: yea, i saw that.. but could not find the specific gconf key.
[16:12] <evilvish> zniavre_: maybe like what you mention it needs ppa
[16:13] <evilvish> zniavre_: thanks.. i think i'll give up now ;)
[16:16] <zniavre_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8111394&postcount=94
[16:16] <zniavre_> i did not try this
[16:17] <zniavre_> this seems to work > gconftool-2 --set /apps/notify-osd/gravity --type int 1
[16:20] <evilvish> zniavre_: yea, that works. the bubble pops up in the middle , and yea, you are right, it is hardcoded  in the src » http://leolik.blogspot.com/2009/11/notify-osd-ubuntu-910.html
[16:21] <evilvish> oh well, maybe another thing i need to rebuild notify-osd for..
[16:21] <zniavre_> :o)
[16:24] <evilvish> haha! now i know why coz_ liked the name "Cosimo Cecchi"
[16:24] <coz_> :)
[16:25] <coz_> evident,  there are so few of us with that name   except maybe in italy and greece  :)
[16:29] <evident> what's the matter?
[16:30] <evilvish> evident: tab fail
[16:59] <dupondje> 3D Support in Nouveau :)
[16:59] <dupondje> yea !
[17:01] <coz_> that would be cool  but i dont think this will happen for some time ...yes?
[17:03] <dupondje> coz_: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental giving me 3D?
[17:03] <dupondje> At least it gets unity working :)
[17:03] <coz_> wow  cool
[17:07] <dupondje> anyway, my next laptop will have ATI vga
[17:07] <dupondje> damn nvidia :)
[17:08] <coz_> dupondje,   :)   I kinda like nvidia :)
[17:09] <dupondje> they have crap driver support imo
[17:10] <coz_> dupondje,   I sort of agree  but  the capabilites...if the drivers reflected that... are pretty remarkable
[17:10] <coz_> rahter capabilities of the chip
[17:11] <dupondje> btw, Unity seems cool, but to bad it takes alot of place on the screen
[17:12] <coz_> dupondje,   yeah I dont use unity i switch to classic gnome
[17:13] <coz_> dupondje,  on a dual monitor set up  ,, global menu is useless  and slows down productivity
[17:17] <coz_> significantly
[18:12] <litropy> Hi, peeps. When I bot up, the user switcher which wold usually display my only user account, which I would click then log in, doesn't display my user. All I have is the background, the user switcher rectangle, the ubuntu logo, and my computer's name underneath. The switcher is not frozen, for when I click my computer's name, the text switches t "Ubuntu 10.10."
[18:12] <litropy> boot*
[18:12] <litropy> would*
[18:12] <litropy> heh
[19:31] <litropy> how do I upgrade to natty via bash?
[19:31] <litropy> 10.10
[19:35] <litropy> sudo sed -i 's/maverick/natty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:35] <litropy> for those who want to know
[19:38] <yofel> that too
[19:38] <yofel> but supported would be running 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[19:39] <yofel> rather 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[19:39] <coz_> mm notice a new gnome panel cannot be moved with alt+click& drag
[20:45] <zniavre_> coz_, i can see the bug of the desktop icons too
[20:46] <coz_> zniavre_,   yeah  irritating  ... yes ? :)
[20:47] <zniavre_> im using it on vbox so it's not so much irritatings (not daily use)
[20:48] <zniavre_> what is irritating it's this unity who does not work on vbox4 here
[20:51] <zniavre_> coz_,  one bug i find strange it's the right clic on the right side of the top panel
[20:51] <zniavre_> but the left side does right clic like normal
[20:52] <coz_> zniavre_,  when it brings up "About"  and "Lock to Panel"  menu ?
[20:53] <zniavre_> coz_ exactly
[20:54] <coz_> zniavre_,   :)  I expect we will see more bugs before the end of April :)
[20:54] <zniavre_> this one is funny at least
[20:54] <coz_> :)
[20:54] <zniavre_> ho we lost one tab on the gnome-apearence-properties
[20:55] <coz_> zniavre_,   the  Visual effects tab ..yes?
[20:55] <zniavre_> yes
[20:56] <zniavre_> cause gnome classic start with compiz activated in vbox it's tooooooo slow i need to switch it off  ( metacity --replace with alt+f2 then )
[20:58] <zniavre_> i tought if compiz works unity should too no ?
[21:34] <multiplatinum> hi
[21:34] <multiplatinum> will the appmenu still suck in 11.04?
[21:34] <charlie-tca> sure
[21:34] <multiplatinum> will there be a way to remove it then?
[21:35] <charlie-tca> don't know
[21:35] <multiplatinum> ><
[21:36] <rww> multiplatinum: if you're talking about the stopgap measure that opens Nautilus with the applications folder when you click on the applications button, then no, that's a stopgap measure until there's a real applications launcher.
[21:36] <rww> if you'
[21:36] <multiplatinum> i mean the improper rendering of menus
[21:36] <rww> ah. no idea.
[21:37] <multiplatinum> and lack of support for other toolkits than Qt, GTK and Gecko
[21:37] <charlie-tca> I just figured anybody that decided it already sucks and didn't expand, must be gonna see the same results
[21:37] <rww> I think the whole menu-at-top-of-screen thing is silly, so I haven't been paying attention
[21:38] <multiplatinum> it's great for small screens like shuttleworth said in his announcement but now they're bringing it to the desktop which contradicts his announcement LOL
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Contradicts how? He never said it wasn't suitable for desktops, did he?
[21:40] <multiplatinum> he kinda did u know
[21:41] <multiplatinum> "only for netbooks since only those have small screens"
[21:41] <multiplatinum> a 24 inch monitor doesnt need it lol
[21:41] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:42] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[21:44] <yofel> hi BUGabundo
[21:44] <rww> multiplatinum: yeah. not the first time he's done stuff like that, and probably won't be the last :(
[21:45] <multiplatinum> lame right
[21:45] <BUGabundo> hi guys
[22:46] <litropy> I need to do what wubildr does, without wubildr. Because I don't have Windows on this machine.
[22:50] <Volkodav> Anybody got the symbol not found error after recent upgrade ? Mine says error symbol not found :'grub_env_export' and gets me to grub rescue cmd - I chrooted in the system , did another upgrade, ran update-grub, checked BIOS for correct drive - everything seems OK ////....
[22:50] <Volkodav> still not bootable
[22:51] <charlie-tca> litropy: wubi is a way to install ubuntu as a windows program, without windows, it won't work
[23:10] <litropy> charlie-tca: Hm. then perhaps my troubleshooting has sent me down the wrong path. When I boot into recovery mode, I get, "Cannot open root device" with my root partition's uuid "or unknown block(0,0)
[23:13] <charlie-tca> It means the uid is wrong for the drive. That was easy to fix in grub legacy, but I don't know how to change it in grub 2
[23:13] <charlie-tca> !grub2
[23:15] <litropy> charlie-tca: it does have the correct uuid ..
[23:17] <litropy> charlie-tca: when I boot into my other partition (using grub2) and ls -l .../by-uuid, it's identical to the uuid listed in recovery mode
[23:18] <charlie-tca> hm, Then I am wrong, huh?
[23:19] <litropy> charlie-tca: I don't know. I'm just providing info.