[00:45] <hajour> Pendulum, its still applying firefox my eeepc think it will take a wile.i will tell if i can test it on firefox
[00:46] <Pendulum> hajour: okay, no worries.
[00:46] <hajour> ok :)
[17:48] <AlanBell> hi all
[17:48] <AlanBell> any comments on this design from an accessibility point of view? http://libertus.co.uk:8080
[17:49] <AlanBell> have already been through some things like high contrast body text and fluid width that allows a wide range of font size changes
[17:54] <charlie-tca> AlanBell: I must be having a bad day. It all seems to work good here
[17:55] <UndiFineD> AlanBell: I have to zoom -- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/accessibility/Screenshot.png
[18:00] <AlanBell> charlie-tca: you have seen it before, there are changes in the commit logs from your feedback, it is just soon going live so they have asked for further feedback
[18:00] <AlanBell> UndiFineD: sure, that looks fine to me
[18:13] <charlie-tca> AlanBell: glad that one is working so well. It is almost impossible now to navigate and read http://www.ubuntulinux.org
[18:13] <charlie-tca> with the new theme in there
[18:16] <charlie-tca> apparently, that website theme just gets worse
[18:16] <AlanBell> yeah
[18:16] <codo> charlie-tca: yes.
[18:16] <codo> charlie-tca: I dont like that theme :)
[18:16] <AlanBell> I want to do an even more accessible moin theme
[18:16] <AlanBell> starting with http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/SimpleMente and adding Ubuntu branding
[18:16] <AlanBell> If I can get agreement that such a thing would be allowed on the main Ubuntu wiki
[18:17] <AlanBell> which I am struggling with
[18:17] <charlie-tca> At least you no longer have to think about zooming it. The words that are missing won't be there anyway
[18:17] <codo> the present wiki theme is just ugly
[18:17] <charlie-tca> +1
[18:17] <AlanBell> codo: I have merge requests that would un-break lots of it
[18:17] <charlie-tca> codo: maybe you and AlanBell can do something there... :-)
[18:17] <charlie-tca> codo: you are a c++ coder?
[18:18] <AlanBell> it is a non-technical problem
[18:18] <charlie-tca> Yeah, but I was thinking festival could use help
[18:18] <codo> charlie-tca: I do C but I can understand C++
[18:19] <codo> AlanBell: and charlie-tca I will need to go around how to hack them etc :)
[18:19] <charlie-tca> Oh, I don't think that is quite the same
[18:19] <codo> but ys since it is non technical problem it should be easy :)
[18:19] <codo> *yes
[18:19] <AlanBell> hah, no!
[18:19] <charlie-tca> But the festival project is done by a university, and bug fixes are hard to come by
[18:19] <AlanBell> technical problems are easy peasy
[18:19] <codo> ah give me link 
[18:19] <codo> I will poke around the TODO 
[18:20] <AlanBell> people problems make my brain spin
[18:20] <codo> etc
[18:20] <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/festival
[18:20] <codo> okay. one min
[18:20] <charlie-tca> The website starts at http://fextvox.org/festival
[18:21] <charlie-tca> They link to a UK homepage that fails to load
[18:23] <codo> charlie-tca: so which is the bug you guys were talking about ?
[18:23] <charlie-tca> The website? It is different
[18:24] <charlie-tca> I gave up filing those website bugs now. They refuse to fix them anyway and complain if you file them.
[18:24] <codo> ah.
[18:24] <charlie-tca> Festival is a different project. It is speech synthesis 
[18:24] <codo> ah ok I got confused there :)
[18:25] <charlie-tca> Sorry... Sometimes these conversations do that
[18:25] <codo> ah no probs
[18:25] <codo> would love to start in something easier
[18:26] <codo> and contribute to bug fixing in c etc.
[18:29] <charlie-tca> okay. I will keep looking for something then
[18:32] <codo> charlie-tca: so umm I will copy festival code
[18:32] <codo> and hack around it :P
[18:32] <codo> and see if i can fix some bugs
[18:32] <codo> it is in C ?
[18:32] <charlie-tca> It is written originally in C++
[18:33] <codo> ah ok
[18:33] <codo> ya should be fine.
[18:33] <codo> though why do lots of people do C++ :O
[18:33] <codo> :P
[18:33] <codo> C is easier :D
[18:33] <charlie-tca> It was popular once upon a time, I think
[18:33] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu uses python a lot
[18:33] <codo> charlie-tca: ah ok are they converting it to C ?
[18:33] <codo> now ?
[18:34] <charlie-tca> Not to my knowledge they aren't. They are a university, so maybe they are using students learning programming to work on it?
[18:36] <codo> charlie-tca: yeah.ok .
[18:36] <codo> python is a popular language among all college grads.
[18:36] <codo> I understand now.
[18:53] <codo> charlie-tca: ok am doing bzr branch lp:ubuntu/festival now
[20:54] <AlanBell> MichelleQ: seen http://enabledbydesign.org/
[20:55] <MichelleQ> no, I hadn't, but I know someone who would loooove the one-hand hair tie