[00:45] Pendulum, its still applying firefox my eeepc think it will take a wile.i will tell if i can test it on firefox [00:46] hajour: okay, no worries. [00:46] ok :) [17:48] hi all [17:48] any comments on this design from an accessibility point of view? http://libertus.co.uk:8080 [17:49] have already been through some things like high contrast body text and fluid width that allows a wide range of font size changes [17:54] AlanBell: I must be having a bad day. It all seems to work good here [17:55] AlanBell: I have to zoom -- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/accessibility/Screenshot.png [18:00] charlie-tca: you have seen it before, there are changes in the commit logs from your feedback, it is just soon going live so they have asked for further feedback [18:00] UndiFineD: sure, that looks fine to me [18:13] AlanBell: glad that one is working so well. It is almost impossible now to navigate and read http://www.ubuntulinux.org [18:13] with the new theme in there [18:16] apparently, that website theme just gets worse [18:16] yeah [18:16] charlie-tca: yes. [18:16] charlie-tca: I dont like that theme :) [18:16] I want to do an even more accessible moin theme [18:16] starting with http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/SimpleMente and adding Ubuntu branding [18:16] If I can get agreement that such a thing would be allowed on the main Ubuntu wiki [18:17] which I am struggling with [18:17] At least you no longer have to think about zooming it. The words that are missing won't be there anyway [18:17] the present wiki theme is just ugly [18:17] +1 [18:17] codo: I have merge requests that would un-break lots of it [18:17] codo: maybe you and AlanBell can do something there... :-) [18:17] codo: you are a c++ coder? [18:18] it is a non-technical problem [18:18] Yeah, but I was thinking festival could use help [18:18] charlie-tca: I do C but I can understand C++ [18:19] AlanBell: and charlie-tca I will need to go around how to hack them etc :) [18:19] Oh, I don't think that is quite the same [18:19] but ys since it is non technical problem it should be easy :) [18:19] *yes [18:19] hah, no! [18:19] But the festival project is done by a university, and bug fixes are hard to come by [18:19] technical problems are easy peasy [18:19] ah give me link [18:19] I will poke around the TODO [18:20] people problems make my brain spin [18:20] etc [18:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/festival [18:20] okay. one min [18:20] The website starts at http://fextvox.org/festival [18:21] They link to a UK homepage that fails to load [18:23] charlie-tca: so which is the bug you guys were talking about ? [18:23] The website? It is different [18:24] I gave up filing those website bugs now. They refuse to fix them anyway and complain if you file them. [18:24] ah. [18:24] Festival is a different project. It is speech synthesis [18:24] ah ok I got confused there :) [18:25] Sorry... Sometimes these conversations do that [18:25] ah no probs [18:25] would love to start in something easier [18:26] and contribute to bug fixing in c etc. [18:29] okay. I will keep looking for something then [18:32] charlie-tca: so umm I will copy festival code [18:32] and hack around it :P [18:32] and see if i can fix some bugs [18:32] it is in C ? [18:32] It is written originally in C++ [18:33] ah ok [18:33] ya should be fine. [18:33] though why do lots of people do C++ :O [18:33] :P [18:33] C is easier :D [18:33] It was popular once upon a time, I think [18:33] Ubuntu uses python a lot [18:33] charlie-tca: ah ok are they converting it to C ? [18:33] now ? [18:34] Not to my knowledge they aren't. They are a university, so maybe they are using students learning programming to work on it? [18:36] charlie-tca: yeah.ok . [18:36] python is a popular language among all college grads. [18:36] I understand now. [18:53] charlie-tca: ok am doing bzr branch lp:ubuntu/festival now [20:54] MichelleQ: seen http://enabledbydesign.org/ [20:55] no, I hadn't, but I know someone who would loooove the one-hand hair tie