[00:40] ok so I forgot my keyring password, and don't know how to recover it [00:41] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=384905 [00:41] yax51: ^^ [00:51] ok I think that worked! thanks! [01:38] ok I just installed, maverick, and I was wondering if I can do a dual boot with windows as a secondary? [01:39] or, should I re-install windows, then maverick as a secondary? [01:39] yax51, windows, then maverick is the easier option. [01:39] yax51, The way to install a dual boot is to install Windows, then install Ubuntu and it will automatically pick it up [01:39] yax51, And it'll give you the option but Ubuntu will be on top [01:39] the problem with Windows is that it assumes it's the only OS that will be present on the system. [01:40] yeah, dont think primary and secondary [01:40] thats true.... [01:40] while that is not a bad assumption to make, it just means extra work reinstalling/setting up GRUB [01:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [01:40] ^^ yax51 check that ou [01:40] t [01:40] you can reclaim some space for windows [01:40] on your hard drive [01:40] and recover grub with that guide [01:41] so I tried to do the dual boot with windows and maverick, but kept running into problems with the partitions, so I just installed maverick over everything [01:41] yax51: do you need windows? [01:41] if its not for gaming, run it in virtual box [01:42] holstein: that might e a better idea, I don't to too much PC gaming... [01:43] holstein: alhough I do contract work for microsoft occasionally at their confrences, so I woul like to have it [01:43] you can have it [01:43] in VM [01:43] cool, I'll check it out! [01:43] you can save snapshots [01:43] thanks [01:43] call a snapshot 'before the virus' [01:43] and when something bad happens, you just click and revert [01:44] very nice way to run windows i think [01:45] that works....where do I get the VM? [01:46] its the virtualbox OSE right? [01:46] yax51, Yes [01:46] thanks! [01:46] yax51: the non free version is better [01:47] yax51, VirtualBox OSE is the environment [01:47] akshatj, Not "better". Just includes USB support. [01:50] so what do I need to run a VM? [01:51] yax51: just install which ever of those you feel comfortable installing [01:51] you'll need an install disc [01:51] OR image [01:51] things will look more clear as you run Vbox [01:52] aaah ok [01:52] just google and poke around [01:52] and ask if you hit something [01:52] that you dont understand :) [01:52] cool thanks! [01:54] whats up with all the kicking? [01:55] holstein: it's 'The Kick of Honour' [01:55] hehe [01:55] i thought it was a haywire bot or something [01:57] holstein, it hurts me more than it hurts them. :> [01:58] :) [01:59] WOOT! No school for NYC students! Snowstorm! YESHHH!! [01:59] That means more neural network programming for me :D [02:00] cool [02:00] * ibuclaw was never into networking [02:00] parsers, lexers, interpreters for me. :> [02:00] latterly compilers [02:00] well... from Language X to asm. [02:01] binutils ftw [02:03] I am learning C# [02:03] since 9 days :P [02:08] Why would you do that to yourself [02:09] aveilleux: because I want to work on Banshee [02:09] and I hate freedom :P [02:10] Banshee is written in C#? [02:10] I thought it was written in Mono [02:10] yup [02:11] Which is not C# [02:12] aveilleux: Mono includes C# [02:12] akshatj, It includes a C#compiler. But Banshee is not written in C#, it is written in Mono and Gtk#. [02:13] akshatj, Mono is very similar to C#, though [02:13] But the language used is still C# [02:13] :S [02:15] akshatj, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Banshee_%28media_player%29 "Banshee is an open-source media player, originally called Sonance until 2005. Built upon Mono and Gtk#..." [02:17] akshatj, Mono is essentially the same thing, but rather than being monopolized by Microsoft it's an open standard and the libraries are FOSS [02:17] aveilleux: look at the sidebox ;) [02:17] akshatj, "(GTK#)" [02:18] If someone can convert Banshee.Mono to Banshee++; I'd give them $2,000 [02:18] :D [02:19] That would be fantastic [02:19] aveilleux: I suggest you read this, http://banshee.fm/contribute/write-code/ [02:19] A C++ version of Banshee [02:19] better yet, a C version [02:20] Vala would be easier [02:20] Vala is just C pseudocode [02:21] Since its syntax is similar to C# [02:44] akshatj, I think aveilleux means that Vala is just a preprocessor to generate C. [02:44] same as what C++ was back in the day [02:44] then someone came along and wrote a fully fledged C++ compiler. [02:44] ibuclaw: I know [02:45] Walter Bright, if what he says is true. :o) [02:45] My keyboard is broken so I couldn't complete my sentence [02:48] hmmm so I got virtual box,and it's working great however, my windows install disks, being asus recovery discs, don't want to work :( [02:48] yax51: i think you can find a work around for that [02:49] its questionably legal id say [02:49] BUT you have a legal windows key [02:49] yup :) [02:49] any ideas where I would look up such a thing? [02:50] or woul it be better to re-install windows, then maverick? [02:50] with that CD [02:50] the recovery CD [02:51] you dont have that option [02:51] it will most likely wipe the HD [02:51] and recover the disc to out of the box state [02:51] thats what I'm saying, I did a wipe when I installed maverick [02:51] THEN, you could install whatever you want beside it [02:52] right, this disc will wipe everything [02:52] i dont think you get to tell it how you want to partition [02:52] depends [02:52] ANYWAYS [02:52] i think its nlite? [02:52] something like that [02:52] a way to respin a windows XP iso [02:53] its up to you [02:53] I don't know about nlite, but I should probably just do another wipe, make sure I got all the crap, and start over..... [02:53] i personally wouldnt hop through to many hoops for a 10 year old OS [02:54] unless you know a way I can get hold of a windows 7 iso or disc..... [02:54] sure [02:54] where ever they sell em' [02:54] without paying 72947202 dollars for em ;) [02:54] maybe used? [02:55] that is the used price :P [02:55] I think I'm just going to re-install everything from scratch......again....... [02:56] if you want === squ1d_ is now known as CB_Desktop === akshat_ is now known as akshatj [04:32] ok so the recovery discs don't want to work to re-install windows AND removed my maverick install....had to do it again!! [04:35] but another question, where should I go to paste pics and screen shots and stuff? [04:35] yax51: for us you mean? [04:35] http://imagebin.org/ [04:35] like pastebin for pics [04:35] that was it! thanks! [04:36] yax51: could be you just need to recover the boot partition [04:37] possibly, but when I ran the recovery disc it came up with big giant letters saying ERROR!!!!!! [04:37] after running it? [04:37] what error? [04:37] there is a boot error that looks like that [04:37] you can run fixmbr or whatever the tool is [04:37] when trying to install it [04:38] OH [04:38] might be looking for an empty disc [04:38] somthin about a WMIblahblahblah file missing.... [04:38] or an ntfs partition [04:38] * holstein shrugs [04:38] its an old disc [04:39] 2008? [04:39] XP recovery disc? [04:39] vista [04:39] OH ok [04:39] i wouldnt waste much time on that then [04:39] they'll skip over vista [04:39] Hahahaha [04:39] like window ME [04:40] http://xkcd.com/323/ [04:41] hehe [04:41] now what about doing a ntfs partition from maverick, and installing vista on that? [04:41] you dont have a proper install disc [04:41] BUT gparted can make whatever partitions you need [04:42] you'll want to do that from a live CD [04:42] so the recovery disc wont work then.... [04:42] with the hard drive *not* mounted [04:42] yax51: i dont know [04:42] sounds like its not working [04:42] i would try wiping the drive with gparted [04:42] maybe put an ntfs partition on it [04:43] run the disc again [04:43] note the error [04:43] which is why I would like to totally get away from it, but I can't install it on a VM either.... [04:44] might be able to use that disc and create nlite disc [04:44] hmmm [04:47] holstein: so with nlite, I can use the recover disc as a live cd? [04:47] i have no idea [04:47] i dont even know if you can nlite vista [04:47] holstein: ok then....lets play round with it and see what happens... [04:48] actually vlite was made just for vista...... [04:48] AH [04:49] there you go :) [04:50] now the issue I had before with the recovery disc, and VB, was that the disc couldn't recognize my laptop, although these discs are only suppose to be for my machine, and are the ones that came with it.... [04:51] would something like that be an issue you think? [04:52] right [04:53] you wont be able to use those custom restore CD's with Vbox [04:53] are you as confused as I am? [04:53] they are made for actual hardware [04:53] your asus laptop [04:53] blast!!! [04:53] hey guys [04:53] thats why you would need to use something like vlite [04:53] which could work [04:54] I hope so [04:54] if you had a normal windows install disc [04:55] OR *any* linux install medium [04:55] it would not be a problem [04:55] because there is no check to make sure you have certain hardware [04:55] yay for DRM......... [04:56] hey, they have to protect the license [04:56] If I did't need windows for certain things........ [04:56] I understand, it's just irritating.... [04:56] can be [05:01] hmm I can't get vlite to run with wine... [05:01] maybe my comp doesn't want vista anymore.... [05:20] is there another windows emulator other then wine? [05:25] nm, I got it [06:14] Someone just said Linux sucks! [06:14] O.O! [06:15] hi JackyAlcine! [06:15] Hey Daniel0108! [06:16] ok, I seem to be having issues with the panel in maverick.... [06:16] hi yax51, what kind of issues do you have? [06:18] Daniel0108: I have rythmbox playing, but there is no icon on the panel, plus there is no window....... [06:18] yax51: That's usually a plugin you might have to configure. [06:19] yax51: Do you have an indicator-applet or/and notification-area in your panel? [06:19] JAckyAlcine: thats what I thought, but didn't know which one, and yes [06:19] yax51: Add both. [06:20] nevermind I found it, it was hiding under the volume control [06:21] :D that's a recent addition [06:21] thats kinda cool actually...instead of having another icon, they piggy backed in onto the volume control... [06:24] yax51, that should not be happening try running killall gnome-panel then run rhythm box again the icon should not be hiding [06:27] that didn't work.....it's stll piggy backed onto volume control [06:28] Lol, yax51, I'm telling you, it's a plugin; as long the indicator plugin is active; the notification icon will not appear. [06:29] Hello, I am trying to install an app in Ubuntu and it is not available via the ubuntu software center. I have the file downloaded but can't figure out how to actually install it, can someone give me a hand please? [06:29] RooDog: sudo apt-get install gdebi* [06:30] what will that do Jacky? [06:30] After that, you should be able to install the app by right-clicking and select 'Open With gDebi Package Installer'.. [06:30] ok wonderful, thanks very much [06:30] It's something that changed from Lucid to Maverick; gdebi didn't come preshipped. [06:30] RooDog, or dpkg -i package [06:30] RooDog: ^^ [06:30] That works ;) [06:31] I have it going in console right now, so I will let you know :) [06:31] :D [06:31] now, do i just do it on the tarball or on the unpackaged folder? [06:32] haha [06:32] JackyAlcine, all yours ;) [06:32] I think i may have waded in lol [06:32] You have a tarball? [06:32] yes [06:33] o.o lol, well, extract the tarball. [06:33] which i have done [06:33] JackyAlcine: yeah, the indicator applets didn't really do anything, but I'm ok with it being were it is.....I kinda like it, it looks less cluttered [06:33] and then open a terminal and cd to the director. [06:33] JackyAlcine, you should ask what he's trying to install [06:33] true, thanks bioterror. [06:33] ballistic calculator [06:33] o.o [06:33] i can dcc it over if you want to have a look [06:33] RooDog, what's the name of the package [06:33] I have access to it, it's just linked to the volume control.... [06:33] saballistics [06:34] its actually saballistics-1.3.2 [06:34] 1.3.3 is also available [06:34] even better [06:34] http://www.filewatcher.com/m/saballistics-1.3.3.tar.gz.165391.0.0.html [06:35] JackyAlcine, are you familiar with checkinstall? [06:35] is there a simple way to apt-get that or is it another tarball [06:35] yax51: I like it like that, but if volume control for the app was possible. :D [06:36] ok got the new one, thanks bio [06:38] RooDog, sudo apt-get install checkinstall [06:38] JackyAlcine: what do you mean? it's possible, I click the volume control icon, and under the voume adujectment bar there is the rhythmbox panel, with song info and controls... [06:39] said invalid operation [06:39] what [06:39] yax51: like right under the play, next, previous without having to change the system volume. [06:40] BTW: did you know that if you drop the sys vol to like 20, 10% it's practically muted? [06:40] wait..typo ack [06:40] done [06:40] okay [06:40] then you need libncurses5-dev [06:41] from the software center? [06:41] sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev [06:41] JackyAlcine: http://imagebin.org/132297 [06:41] i have it going, let you know when its done [06:42] hmmm [06:42] done [06:42] I've got problems installing that software [06:42] just a moment [06:42] ok [06:44] haaa [06:45] get it? [06:45] just a moment [06:46] we need that checkinstall for making a dpkg package [06:47] so that if we get newer version of that saballistics, we can remove it easily [06:47] ok [06:47] lead the way :) [06:47] as we are running a sophisticated package manager, it would be a stupid thing to install stuff without it [06:47] absolutely :) [06:48] we want to keep control on what we are having on our system, other wise removing that software would be a horrible job [06:49] hmmm now I have no icons... [06:58] hmmm, I've installed lots of stuff with checkinstall [06:58] ok bio how are you looking? [06:58] not happening? [06:58] and this is first time I encounter a little problem [06:58] lol [06:58] so it wasnt just me [06:58] well [06:58] i even read the readme [06:58] well the INTALL is kinda okay [07:00] do you know of another ballistics proggie that is easier to install bio? [07:01] i couldnt find anything in the software center for it...hence the downloading [07:04] ok that was strange.... [07:05] I did a reboot and my panel got all better..... [07:08] lol amazing how a reboot solves things sometime [07:08] s [07:08] I know right... [07:09] RooDog, hmmm [07:09] RooDog, seems like you can easily do sudo make install clean [07:10] well thanks for all your help, I must be going now...good night all! [07:10] RooDog, it will install all stuff into /usr/local/saballistics-1.3.3 [07:10] ok i will give that a try [07:10] so [07:10] ./configure [07:10] make [07:10] sudo make install clean [07:11] what a shame that checkinstall failed us, but we still needed all those packages for compiling it ;) [07:11] lol [07:11] no worries [07:11] I'm running now that software in my terminal [07:11] hopefully the bloody proggie works after all that [07:12] ok it worked, its in /usr/local/saballistics-1.3.3, now how do I make it run [07:13] you say in terminal /usr/local/saballistics-1.3.3/bin/saballistics [07:13] and presto it works [07:13] RooDog, remember that you can complete words with tabkey (the one with arrows both direction above capslock) [07:13] any way to make a working shortcut for the desktop or anything like that? [07:14] ofcourse you can make [07:14] just point the binary to that path [07:15] ok i will give that a shot. Thanks for the help bio [07:15] much appreciated [07:15] np [07:17] doesnt look too bad...even has a nice built-in bullet db :) [07:18] and my desktop shortcut worked too [07:18] nice app for anyone who votes for sarah palin :D [07:18] lol [07:18] nah, just good for shootists [07:19] Im not a big political person but i do love the science and discipline behind competitive shooting [07:19] been doing it since I was a little tacker and probably will until the day I can't see any more [07:20] Shot for Australia in the Commonwealth games years ago and been hooked for longer than that [07:20] anyway, cheers and thanks for the help again. [08:24] Hello? [09:26] hi everyine [09:27] Hai evfool :) [09:40] Hello. [09:40] hi fox [09:41] Hai Silver_Fox_ :) [09:41] Hello ChrisDruif =) [09:43] How's it going? [09:44] Oh not bad, just poking through the current beginners team mentor / mentee lists. I am supposed to be keeping track of things. [09:45] Silver_Fox_, how's the mentor list doing?-) [09:45] Indeed :) [09:46] Heya Silver_Fox_ :] [09:46] :) can you Silver_Fox_ ? [09:47] Hmmm...not nice....meeting is tonight @ 01:00CET <_<" [09:48] bioterror, Not so bad - I aim to have the lists updated in time for the meeting later. [09:48] ChrisDruif: you mean this morning at 1 am [09:48] Yup, indeed UndiFineD...I don't mind if it's tonight or next morning ;) [09:49] ok then i say yesterday night [09:49] UndiFineD, Yes - I can go through the lists,I have a spread sheet [09:49] :D [09:49] I really hate that the UBT -meetings are 2AM in my time [09:49] and middle of the week [09:50] UndiFineD: in ~14 hours ;) [09:50] ChrisDruif, meeting is over :P [09:50] hard to attend if I'm going to wakeup around 5:30AM [09:50] Damn <_<" [09:50] I wanted to be there <_<" [09:51] bioterror, I cant. coz it will be powercut here at 00:30 :{ [09:52] UndiFineD: Are you UBT member now? :) [09:52] yes I am [09:52] :D [09:52] ah, it's 8AM of 13th here. IAmNotThatGuy [09:52] the meeting, i mean. [09:54] Silver_Fox_: so how do you do this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Mentors [09:54] Congratulations UndiFineD :) [09:54] thank you ChrisDruif [09:54] I'm really happy for you :) [09:54] (Too bad nobody reminded my it was last night O:-)) [09:55] I did leave some hints here and there [09:59] I'll read it at school UndiFineD :) [09:59] useful time spending [09:59] Indeed :) [09:59] Off to school now :P [10:36] Interesting... [10:40] yes master [11:25] is there anyone who can help me install my printer? i'm completely new to ubuntu [11:29] dracotux_: could you tell us the make/model of the printer? if I or someone know how to help you they could do so. :) [11:30] it's a DCP-375CW from brother [11:32] in SPM I can't find this model explicitly, but I can't imagine that there is no driver for this printer in linux [11:35] dracotux_: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#DCP-375CW <-- download Format: "deb" of the lpr driver & cupswrapper driver [11:36] dracotux_: and follow this guide to install; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/BrotherPrinters/2070NLaser [11:38] dracotux_: it should get you on your way, if you get stuck or encounter some issue, shoot the question in this channel :) [11:44] http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#DCP-375CW [11:44] that is a dead link [11:45] dracotux_: it works perfectly well on my browser. [11:45] I use chromian, ill try it in firefox [11:45] dracotux_: i'm using chromium too. :) [11:46] lolz [11:46] now it workz [11:46] hhmm, very strange. :) [11:47] sorry, wrong window [11:47] can't open the link [11:47] it says it cant find it [11:47] dracotux_: how about this; http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html ? [11:48] doesn't work too [11:48]