| bcurtiswx | gome3team mailing list.. good idea :D | 00:03 |
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| bcurtiswx | gnome3team* | 00:03 |
| bcurtiswx | I've finally got the VM's up, now i have to figure out to link my pbuilder folders so I can install the debs in the VM for testing | 00:04 |
| bcurtiswx | lol, there goes all the dev sprint peeps | 00:16 |
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| om26er | prolly many people are in the rally. evolution 2.30.3-1ubuntu7.2 update in maverick seems to be causing tons and tons of sudden crashers for people. | 09:17 |
| om26er | bug 701777 701051 700991 700554 700153 699702 are the examples | 09:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 701777 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution crash (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701777 | 09:20 |
| kklimonda | om26er: does any one of those have a retraced stacktrace? | 09:23 |
| om26er | they have to enable apport i guess but people usually dont reply after they are asked to enable apport :p | 09:24 |
| kklimonda | right | 09:27 |
| ebroder | ugh. does the gnome-desktop package seriously not have a better upstream mailing list than desktop-devel-list@gnome? super lame | 09:27 |
| vuntz | ebroder: why? | 09:29 |
| ebroder | vuntz: oh, hi :) | 09:30 |
| ebroder | vuntz: i'm looking at basically a simulator for the g-s-d xrandr plugin | 09:30 |
| ebroder | so i can see what it would do given certain monitor configurations | 09:30 |
| ebroder | but with the new gobject-based randr stuff in gnome-desktop, i can't build my own GnomeRRConfig and GnomeRROutputInfo objects that aren't based on the actual screen configuration | 09:30 |
| vuntz | ebroder: I suggest to ask federico about this | 09:31 |
| kklimonda | ebroder: those bug reports don't seem connected to each other | 09:32 |
| kklimonda | om26er: ^ | 09:32 |
| kklimonda | sorry, wrong nick - you are both blue :) | 09:32 |
| kklimonda | there is one about evo crashing at sending email, another when editing message, yet another is about it crashing when importing contacts | 09:33 |
| ebroder | vuntz: ok, i'll see if i can track him down | 09:33 |
| om26er | kklimonda, all are random crashes with -7.2 | 09:33 |
| ebroder | vuntz: though probably not until tomorrow :) | 09:33 |
| om26er | the crash ratio have been relatively low before the update | 09:33 |
| om26er | s/ratio/rate ;) | 09:34 |
| kklimonda | the diff for -7.2 is http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60702450/evolution_2.30.3-1ubuntu7.1_2.30.3-1ubuntu7.2.diff.gz | 09:34 |
| kklimonda | the only change is in the proxy code | 09:34 |
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| kklimonda | maybe they are all hitting this path, but that's unlikely - and without stacktrace it's hard to tell :) | 09:35 |
| ebroder | vuntz: what's going to be the best place to track down federico? just #gnome on irc.g.o? | 09:36 |
| vuntz | ebroder: federico1 on freenode, or federico in #gnome-hackers on gimpnet | 09:37 |
| vuntz | ebroder: but mail is probably the safest way | 09:37 |
| ebroder | ok, cool | 09:37 |
| om26er | kklimonda, commented on every report, someone would atleast give crash logs | 09:38 |
| kklimonda | om26er: if they do, ping me and I'll take a look - also, ping others ;) | 09:39 |
| kklimonda | but you got me curious | 09:39 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 09:42 |
| kklimonda | hey | 09:42 |
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| sivang | hi all | 12:32 |
| sivang | does anybody know if g-c-m now has UI to enable IPP detection upstream, as I think my GUI patch was dropped long ago | 12:33 |
| sivang | hrm, I need to head to ubuntu-gnome | 12:33 |
| sivang | sorry | 12:33 |
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| kenvandine | pitti, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638915 | 15:12 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 638915 in introspection "Array of GVariants passed as NULL" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | pitti, something maybe you could help with during the hack fest :) | 15:13 |
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| nessita | mvo: hey! while installing today's update I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/553195/ | 15:57 |
| kklimonda | nessita: there is a gir transition in progress, it's most likely that - see if there are any held packages, and if you can "force upgrade" them | 15:58 |
| nessita | kklimonda: thanks! | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | mterry, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/dbus-test-runner/ubuntu | 16:01 |
| pitti | kenvandine: thanks, I'll keep it on the radar for next wek | 16:05 |
| pitti | TheMuso: do we plan to use python-pyatspi or python-pyatspi2 for natty? | 16:23 |
| bryceh_ | pitti, http://www.mail-archive.com/gtg-contributors@lists.launchpad.net/msg00093.html | 16:53 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, around? | 16:55 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo__, how are you? | 16:57 |
| rodrigo__ | hey pitti, how's the snow in dallas? :) | 16:57 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: gone :) | 16:57 |
| dobey | pitti: sponsor #701973 plz :) | 16:57 |
| pitti | it didn't stay at all, it melted when hitting the ground | 16:57 |
| rodrigo__ | oh, what a pity :-( | 16:57 |
| dobey | it's still mas frija | 16:58 |
| pitti | dobey: sure | 16:58 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, I have a couple of branches for review/sponsor (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop3/2_91_5_release/+merge/45727 and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715) can you or someone else in dallas do it, please? | 16:58 |
| pitti | dobey: did you send this upstream anywhere? would be nice to include the upstream bug ref in the patch header | 16:59 |
| dobey | not yet | 16:59 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: can do | 17:01 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, thanks | 17:01 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: gsettings-desktop-schemas can be synced from Debian instead? | 17:04 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, yes, if it's got 0.1.4 | 17:04 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: yes | 17:04 |
| rodrigo__ | then yes :) | 17:04 |
| madsailor_ | hello all. I am having difficulty changing the backround for the ubuntu login screen. Docs on the ubuntu help pages talk about modifying /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but this file doesn't exist in this folder on my machine | 17:04 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: to avoid dup'ed work, I suggest to check http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gsettings-desktop-schemas.html before you do updates | 17:05 |
| rodrigo__ | ok | 17:05 |
| rodrigo__ | and how do I ask for a sync from debian? | 17:05 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: ping seb128 or me, or use requestsync | 17:06 |
| rodrigo__ | ok | 17:06 |
| pitti | synced | 17:06 |
| rodrigo__ | cool thanks | 17:06 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: according to the .symbols that's breaking ABI | 17:06 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: (g-desktop3) | 17:07 |
| rodrigo__ | yes, it is | 17:07 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: we don't care yet? | 17:07 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, I guess we don't | 17:07 |
| pitti | *nod* | 17:07 |
| rodrigo__ | pulling g-s-d and g-c-c from the PPA will get the correct g-desktop | 17:07 |
| pitti | as long as it doesn't break the PPA | 17:07 |
| pitti | but I guess it's easier to fix that than inventing a new soname | 17:07 |
| rodrigo__ | yes | 17:08 |
| pitti | rodrigo__: up'ed | 17:12 |
| rodrigo__ | pitti, thanks! | 17:12 |
| pitti | yw, thanks for preparing them | 17:12 |
| jcastro | Laney: new banshee today iirc? | 17:19 |
| Laney | so says the oracle | 17:20 |
| Laney | (http://banshee.fm/about/calendar/) | 17:20 |
| madsailor_ | hello all. I am having difficulty changing the backround for the ubuntu login screen. Docs on the ubuntu help pages talk about modifying /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but this file doesn't exist in this folder on my machine | 17:21 |
| madsailor_ | The orange/purple background for login is OK but I'd like to change it. How can I do this? | 17:21 |
| Laney | #ubuntu for support | 17:21 |
| jcastro | Laney: conor is finishing up the playlist-in-sound-indicator stuff as well | 17:21 |
| Laney | yay | 17:21 |
| Laney | I heard the sound menu extension is no more | 17:22 |
| Laney | is that true? | 17:22 |
| jcastro | Sounds right, when I see conor next I'll ask him | 17:22 |
| madsailor_ | OK, thanks Laney | 17:22 |
| Laney | i.e. it's all done by the indicator interfacing directly with banshee via mpris or something | 17:23 |
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| dobey | kenvandine: did you get to look at the python-couchdb/desktopcouch packages from chad yet? | 18:25 |
| kenvandine | dobey, no... sorry | 18:25 |
| kenvandine | i need to finish this gdbus/dbusmenu port of the indicators first | 18:25 |
| dobey | ok | 18:25 |
| kenvandine | if it is urgent, i can take a break and look at it | 18:26 |
| kenvandine | but i am trying not to get distracted, these all need to land at the same time | 18:26 |
| dobey | right. we just want to get the new version in, as we haven't had an upload since maverick for desktopcouch now | 18:27 |
| dobey | kenvandine: but it's annoying too becuase python-couchdb and desktopcouch have to be uploaded at the same time basically | 18:28 |
| dobey | kenvandine: i can bug pitti or seb or someone to do it instead if that's better? | 18:28 |
| bigon | I've opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/702028 to ask the sync of clutter-gtk package there is already clutter-gtk-1.0 in natty but it could be great if you could not diverge here | 18:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 702028 in ubuntu "Sync clutter-gtk 0.91.4-3 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 18:28 |
| bigon | if somebody of the desktop team could give an ack | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | dobey, if you can't find anyone else... let me know | 18:29 |
| dobey | kenvandine: ok thanks | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | dobey, sorry... the indicator stack is a much bigger set of packages to line up | 18:30 |
| dobey | kenvandine: no worries, totally understand. it's a hectic time :) | 18:30 |
| * kenvandine still needs to find a way to repay tedg for this :-D | 18:30 | |
| tedg | kenvandine, XOXOXOXO ;) | 18:31 |
| kenvandine | yeah yeah | 18:31 |
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| mterry | kenvandine, can you test lp:~mterry/indicator-appmenu/gdbus for me? | 20:09 |
| mterry | kenvandine, ping | 20:20 |
| mterry | kenvandine, lp:~mterry/indicator-appmenu/gdbus | 20:31 |
| TheMuso | pitti: It will depend on what version of at-spi we use, either at-spi or at-spi2. | 20:33 |
| hockebocke | hi folks! | 20:43 |
| hockebocke | JUst installed a fresh Maverick on a new computer, and since the first startup the theme is completely wrong (old gnome default theme instead of Ambeance) | 20:44 |
| hockebocke | It turned out to be gnome-settings-daemon hanging. A kill with -KILL (nothing else will do) and then restarting, it all changes into the right theme and is all right. | 20:45 |
| pitti | TheMuso: what's your preference/plan for that? | 20:49 |
| dobey | pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/natty/python-couchdb/201101_0.8-0u1/+merge/45773 | 20:51 |
| dobey | pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/natty/desktopcouch/1.0.5-0u1/+merge/45771 | 20:52 |
| SpamapS | Anybody know why my natty machine would be ignoring the Appearance theme I selected and just using the default f'ugly gtk theme? | 20:59 |
| dobey | gnome-settings-daemon crashed | 21:00 |
| SpamapS | I've rebooted several times.. | 21:00 |
| SpamapS | this happened after I applied the latest updates | 21:00 |
| dobey | or it's hanging perhaps | 21:00 |
| dobey | kill it | 21:00 |
| dobey | and it should restart | 21:00 |
| SpamapS | ah so that made something happen briefly | 21:01 |
| SpamapS | fonts started anti-aliasing | 21:01 |
| SpamapS | then it went back to f'ugly | 21:01 |
| SpamapS | crap | 21:02 |
| SpamapS | I have a half-installed gnome 3 | 21:02 |
| dobey | that would do it probably | 21:05 |
| SpamapS | aha | 21:05 |
| SpamapS | yes downgraded and all is better | 21:05 |
| SpamapS | dobey: thanks for the tip. :) | 21:07 |
| SpamapS | now if I can just get google chrome to identify itself as a browser the same wahy FF and Chromium do.... | 21:07 |
| dobey | SpamapS: it probably needs the x-scheme-handler/ mime types added to the .desktop file | 21:09 |
| SpamapS | dobey: ahh indeed it does | 21:10 |
| pitti | dobey: http://www.fullduplex.org/humor/2006/10/how-to-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-in-any-programming-language/ | 21:16 |
| SpamapS | dobey: so I added the scheme handler stuff to the desktop file in the chrome package.. but it doesn't appear yet as a choice in preferred apps.. have tried logging out / back in... anything else I can do? | 21:24 |
| dobey | SpamapS: you added x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https; to it? | 21:29 |
| SpamapS | dobey: yes | 21:33 |
| SpamapS | dobey: but I have worse problems now.. gnome-settings-daemon is at 100% CPU .. :-/ | 21:34 |
| SpamapS | write(2, "\n(gnome-settings-daemon:20266): "..., 114) = 114 | 21:34 |
| ebroder | SpamapS: what's in ~/.xsession-errors? | 21:34 |
| SpamapS | ** (gnome-panel:22690): WARNING **: Operation was cancelled | 21:35 |
| SpamapS | hmm there are two gnome-settings-daemon running | 21:36 |
| SpamapS | ok, SIGKILL'd it | 21:36 |
| SpamapS | new one seems healthy | 21:36 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Whatever has the best performance. I hope to do soe testing this week to get closer to making a final decision. | 21:47 |
| pitti | TheMuso: thanks; it'd help to clean up a few obsolete libraries | 21:47 |
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| nessita | seb128: hapy birthday! https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu/natty/ubuntu-sso-client/ubuntu-sso-client-1.1.8/+merge/46049 | 22:13 |
| nessita | happy as well :-) | 22:13 |
| seb128 | nessita, thanks! | 22:13 |
| nessita | thank you! | 22:13 |
| bcurtiswx | if it's really seb128 birthday then Happy Birthday! | 22:19 |
| dobey | heh | 22:20 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, no it's not | 22:20 |
| seb128 | but thanks ;-) | 22:20 |
| * bcurtiswx gets all :( | 22:20 | |
| * bcurtiswx punches nessita :P | 22:21 | |
| nessita | is seb128's birthday! get him cake, I'll help eating it :-D | 22:21 |
| dobey | the cake is a lie | 22:21 |
| seb128 | nessita eating cake if there is any is not though | 22:24 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 22:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - we'll tell the waitresses at the restaurant later that it's your birthday | 22:31 |
| chrisccoulson | they'll make you dance on the tables ;) | 22:31 |
| pitti | nessita, dobey: filed as bug 702174 | 22:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 702174 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "[natty] u1 gnome-settings-daemon plugin unnecessarily starts ubuntu-sso-login on desktop startup (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702174 | 22:31 |
| dobey | heh | 22:34 |
| jhansonxi | I'm trying to get wicd to coexist with Network Manager. I want wicd-curses for recovery mode only. I modified the NM upstart job to not start in runlevel S but wicd starts in runlevel 2, even with the init script removed. Why? | 23:04 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Preliminary testing shows much better performance compared to the last time I checked, however a lot of the desktop is inaccessible, due to something somewhere still wanting bonobo-activation-server et al to be running. | 23:06 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Re at-spi2. | 23:07 |
| TheMuso | Hopefully that won't be too hard to track down. | 23:07 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Could be that I built an at-spi2 package incorrectly. | 23:09 |
| mvo | hey seb128 - in natty, it apperas that the schema registration for /schemas/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/apt/enabled does no longer work - what should I do instead | 23:12 |
| seb128 | mvo, read you bug reports? ;-) | 23:12 |
| dobey | heh | 23:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, bug #698181 | 23:13 |
| ubot2 | seb128: Bug 698181 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/698181 is private | 23:14 |
| dobey | x-scheme-handler/apt ftl | 23:14 |
| mvo | seb128: *cough* thanks! | 23:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, you have a merge request on it | 23:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, you don't like mterry right? | 23:14 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 23:14 |
| mterry | mvo, I have a branch filed to fix that | 23:15 |
| mvo | I love mterry | 23:15 |
| mterry | mvo, waiting for review | 23:15 |
| seb128 | mterry, that's what I was just saying ;-) | 23:15 |
| mterry | mvo, oh, that's what seb128 was saying | 23:15 |
| seb128 | mvo, so why don't you review his patches? ;-) | 23:15 |
| * seb128 stops tickling mvo | 23:15 | |
| * mterry is a few minutes too slow today | 23:15 | |
| mvo | seb128: because i'm on a sprint! | 23:15 |
| seb128 | mvo, it was open a week before the sprint! | 23:16 |
| mvo | seb128: on thursday night | 23:16 |
| mvo | seb128: right before leaving to the sprint | 23:16 |
| dobey | mvo: you were just waiting for lp to go down to look at it, right? | 23:16 |
| mvo | seb128: ;) | 23:16 |
| seb128 | mvo, ok, fair enough ;-) | 23:16 |
| mvo | dobey: it was the other way around, LP waited for me before it went down :p | 23:16 |
| seb128 | mvo, in any case merge it and let's be happy! | 23:16 |
| dobey | heh | 23:16 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, it looks good | 23:17 |
| seb128 | sure it is, it's coming from mterry ;-) | 23:17 |
| dobey | how do i tell debuild to unpack and configure, but not build a package? just exit after doing the ./configure? | 23:18 |
| ebroder | dobey: there's no way to do that that'll work with all packages - the only things a rules file has to support is "build" (i.e. everything you don't have to do as root) and "binary" (i.e. everything you do have to do as root) | 23:21 |
| dobey | ebroder: ok. well i only care about one package right now, network-manager-applet | 23:22 |
| ebroder | dobey: i don't know how that package is put together, but you might be able to do something like "debian/rules configure" or "debian/rules configure-stamp" or maybe even "debian/rules debian/configure-stamp" | 23:23 |
| dobey | it uses cdbs gnome.mk | 23:24 |
| dobey | i was hoping for something i could pass to debuild though, so that i can do it by running bzr bd -- $something | 23:25 |
| dobey | to keep the working tree clean and build elsewhere | 23:25 |
| dobey | like one can do in rpm ;) | 23:25 |
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| ebroder | dobey: well if that's all you want to do, just use pbuilder or sbuild | 23:26 |
| dobey | no, i want to do some manual work in the build tree (which is why i want to only do the pre-build steps) | 23:28 |
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