[00:03] gome3team mailing list.. good idea :D [00:03] gnome3team* [00:04] I've finally got the VM's up, now i have to figure out to link my pbuilder folders so I can install the debs in the VM for testing [00:16] lol, there goes all the dev sprint peeps === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === hoonteke1 is now known as hoonteke === james is now known as Guest78408 === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [09:17] prolly many people are in the rally. evolution 2.30.3-1ubuntu7.2 update in maverick seems to be causing tons and tons of sudden crashers for people. [09:20] bug 701777 701051 700991 700554 700153 699702 are the examples [09:20] Launchpad bug 701777 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution crash (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701777 [09:23] om26er: does any one of those have a retraced stacktrace? [09:24] they have to enable apport i guess but people usually dont reply after they are asked to enable apport :p [09:27] right [09:27] ugh. does the gnome-desktop package seriously not have a better upstream mailing list than desktop-devel-list@gnome? super lame [09:29] ebroder: why? [09:30] vuntz: oh, hi :) [09:30] vuntz: i'm looking at basically a simulator for the g-s-d xrandr plugin [09:30] so i can see what it would do given certain monitor configurations [09:30] but with the new gobject-based randr stuff in gnome-desktop, i can't build my own GnomeRRConfig and GnomeRROutputInfo objects that aren't based on the actual screen configuration [09:31] ebroder: I suggest to ask federico about this [09:32] ebroder: those bug reports don't seem connected to each other [09:32] om26er: ^ [09:32] sorry, wrong nick - you are both blue :) [09:33] there is one about evo crashing at sending email, another when editing message, yet another is about it crashing when importing contacts [09:33] vuntz: ok, i'll see if i can track him down [09:33] kklimonda, all are random crashes with -7.2 [09:33] vuntz: though probably not until tomorrow :) [09:33] the crash ratio have been relatively low before the update [09:34] s/ratio/rate ;) [09:34] the diff for -7.2 is http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60702450/evolution_2.30.3-1ubuntu7.1_2.30.3-1ubuntu7.2.diff.gz [09:34] the only change is in the proxy code === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [09:35] maybe they are all hitting this path, but that's unlikely - and without stacktrace it's hard to tell :) [09:36] vuntz: what's going to be the best place to track down federico? just #gnome on irc.g.o? [09:37] ebroder: federico1 on freenode, or federico in #gnome-hackers on gimpnet [09:37] ebroder: but mail is probably the safest way [09:37] ok, cool [09:38] kklimonda, commented on every report, someone would atleast give crash logs [09:39] om26er: if they do, ping me and I'll take a look - also, ping others ;) [09:39] but you got me curious [09:42] morning [09:42] hey === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === lan3y is now known as Laney === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [12:32] hi all [12:33] does anybody know if g-c-m now has UI to enable IPP detection upstream, as I think my GUI patch was dropped long ago [12:33] hrm, I need to head to ubuntu-gnome [12:33] sorry === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [15:12] pitti, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638915 [15:12] Gnome bug 638915 in introspection "Array of GVariants passed as NULL" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [15:13] pitti, something maybe you could help with during the hack fest :) === dobey_ is now known as dobey [15:57] mvo: hey! while installing today's update I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/553195/ [15:58] nessita: there is a gir transition in progress, it's most likely that - see if there are any held packages, and if you can "force upgrade" them [15:58] kklimonda: thanks! [16:01] mterry, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/dbus-test-runner/ubuntu [16:05] kenvandine: thanks, I'll keep it on the radar for next wek [16:23] TheMuso: do we plan to use python-pyatspi or python-pyatspi2 for natty? [16:53] pitti, http://www.mail-archive.com/gtg-contributors@lists.launchpad.net/msg00093.html [16:55] pitti, around? [16:57] hey rodrigo__, how are you? [16:57] hey pitti, how's the snow in dallas? :) [16:57] rodrigo__: gone :) [16:57] pitti: sponsor #701973 plz :) [16:57] it didn't stay at all, it melted when hitting the ground [16:57] oh, what a pity :-( [16:58] it's still mas frija [16:58] dobey: sure [16:58] pitti, I have a couple of branches for review/sponsor (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop3/2_91_5_release/+merge/45727 and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gsettings-desktop-schemas/0_1_4_release/+merge/45715) can you or someone else in dallas do it, please? [16:59] dobey: did you send this upstream anywhere? would be nice to include the upstream bug ref in the patch header [16:59] not yet [17:01] rodrigo__: can do [17:01] pitti, thanks [17:04] rodrigo__: gsettings-desktop-schemas can be synced from Debian instead? [17:04] pitti, yes, if it's got 0.1.4 [17:04] rodrigo__: yes [17:04] then yes :) [17:04] hello all. I am having difficulty changing the backround for the ubuntu login screen. Docs on the ubuntu help pages talk about modifying /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but this file doesn't exist in this folder on my machine [17:05] rodrigo__: to avoid dup'ed work, I suggest to check http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gsettings-desktop-schemas.html before you do updates [17:05] ok [17:05] and how do I ask for a sync from debian? [17:06] rodrigo__: ping seb128 or me, or use requestsync [17:06] ok [17:06] synced [17:06] cool thanks [17:06] rodrigo__: according to the .symbols that's breaking ABI [17:07] rodrigo__: (g-desktop3) [17:07] yes, it is [17:07] rodrigo__: we don't care yet? [17:07] pitti, I guess we don't [17:07] *nod* [17:07] pulling g-s-d and g-c-c from the PPA will get the correct g-desktop [17:07] as long as it doesn't break the PPA [17:07] but I guess it's easier to fix that than inventing a new soname [17:08] yes [17:12] rodrigo__: up'ed [17:12] pitti, thanks! [17:12] yw, thanks for preparing them [17:19] Laney: new banshee today iirc? [17:20] so says the oracle [17:20] (http://banshee.fm/about/calendar/) [17:21] hello all. I am having difficulty changing the backround for the ubuntu login screen. Docs on the ubuntu help pages talk about modifying /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but this file doesn't exist in this folder on my machine [17:21] The orange/purple background for login is OK but I'd like to change it. How can I do this? [17:21] #ubuntu for support [17:21] Laney: conor is finishing up the playlist-in-sound-indicator stuff as well [17:21] yay [17:22] I heard the sound menu extension is no more [17:22] is that true? [17:22] Sounds right, when I see conor next I'll ask him [17:22] OK, thanks Laney [17:23] i.e. it's all done by the indicator interfacing directly with banshee via mpris or something === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === Bertrand is now known as bl8 [18:25] kenvandine: did you get to look at the python-couchdb/desktopcouch packages from chad yet? [18:25] dobey, no... sorry [18:25] i need to finish this gdbus/dbusmenu port of the indicators first [18:25] ok [18:26] if it is urgent, i can take a break and look at it [18:26] but i am trying not to get distracted, these all need to land at the same time [18:27] right. we just want to get the new version in, as we haven't had an upload since maverick for desktopcouch now [18:28] kenvandine: but it's annoying too becuase python-couchdb and desktopcouch have to be uploaded at the same time basically [18:28] kenvandine: i can bug pitti or seb or someone to do it instead if that's better? [18:28] I've opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/702028 to ask the sync of clutter-gtk package there is already clutter-gtk-1.0 in natty but it could be great if you could not diverge here [18:28] Launchpad bug 702028 in ubuntu "Sync clutter-gtk 0.91.4-3 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] [18:29] if somebody of the desktop team could give an ack [18:29] dobey, if you can't find anyone else... let me know [18:29] kenvandine: ok thanks [18:30] dobey, sorry... the indicator stack is a much bigger set of packages to line up [18:30] kenvandine: no worries, totally understand. it's a hectic time :) [18:30] * kenvandine still needs to find a way to repay tedg for this :-D [18:31] kenvandine, XOXOXOXO ;) [18:31] yeah yeah === Bertrand is now known as bl8 === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [20:09] kenvandine, can you test lp:~mterry/indicator-appmenu/gdbus for me? [20:20] kenvandine, ping [20:31] kenvandine, lp:~mterry/indicator-appmenu/gdbus [20:33] pitti: It will depend on what version of at-spi we use, either at-spi or at-spi2. [20:43] hi folks! [20:44] JUst installed a fresh Maverick on a new computer, and since the first startup the theme is completely wrong (old gnome default theme instead of Ambeance) [20:45] It turned out to be gnome-settings-daemon hanging. A kill with -KILL (nothing else will do) and then restarting, it all changes into the right theme and is all right. [20:49] TheMuso: what's your preference/plan for that? [20:51] pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/natty/python-couchdb/201101_0.8-0u1/+merge/45773 [20:52] pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/natty/desktopcouch/1.0.5-0u1/+merge/45771 [20:59] Anybody know why my natty machine would be ignoring the Appearance theme I selected and just using the default f'ugly gtk theme? [21:00] gnome-settings-daemon crashed [21:00] I've rebooted several times.. [21:00] this happened after I applied the latest updates [21:00] or it's hanging perhaps [21:00] kill it [21:00] and it should restart [21:01] ah so that made something happen briefly [21:01] fonts started anti-aliasing [21:01] then it went back to f'ugly [21:02] crap [21:02] I have a half-installed gnome 3 [21:05] that would do it probably [21:05] aha [21:05] yes downgraded and all is better [21:07] dobey: thanks for the tip. :) [21:07] now if I can just get google chrome to identify itself as a browser the same wahy FF and Chromium do.... [21:09] SpamapS: it probably needs the x-scheme-handler/ mime types added to the .desktop file [21:10] dobey: ahh indeed it does [21:16] dobey: http://www.fullduplex.org/humor/2006/10/how-to-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-in-any-programming-language/ [21:24] dobey: so I added the scheme handler stuff to the desktop file in the chrome package.. but it doesn't appear yet as a choice in preferred apps.. have tried logging out / back in... anything else I can do? [21:29] SpamapS: you added x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https; to it? [21:33] dobey: yes [21:34] dobey: but I have worse problems now.. gnome-settings-daemon is at 100% CPU .. :-/ [21:34] write(2, "\n(gnome-settings-daemon:20266): "..., 114) = 114 [21:34] SpamapS: what's in ~/.xsession-errors? [21:35] ** (gnome-panel:22690): WARNING **: Operation was cancelled [21:36] hmm there are two gnome-settings-daemon running [21:36] ok, SIGKILL'd it [21:36] new one seems healthy [21:47] pitti: Whatever has the best performance. I hope to do soe testing this week to get closer to making a final decision. [21:47] TheMuso: thanks; it'd help to clean up a few obsolete libraries === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [22:13] seb128: hapy birthday! https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu/natty/ubuntu-sso-client/ubuntu-sso-client-1.1.8/+merge/46049 [22:13] happy as well :-) [22:13] nessita, thanks! [22:13] thank you! [22:19] if it's really seb128 birthday then Happy Birthday! [22:20] heh [22:20] bcurtiswx, no it's not [22:20] but thanks ;-) [22:20] * bcurtiswx gets all :( [22:21] * bcurtiswx punches nessita :P [22:21] is seb128's birthday! get him cake, I'll help eating it :-D [22:21] the cake is a lie [22:24] nessita eating cake if there is any is not though [22:24] ;-) [22:31] seb128 - we'll tell the waitresses at the restaurant later that it's your birthday [22:31] they'll make you dance on the tables ;) [22:31] nessita, dobey: filed as bug 702174 [22:31] Launchpad bug 702174 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "[natty] u1 gnome-settings-daemon plugin unnecessarily starts ubuntu-sso-login on desktop startup (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702174 [22:34] heh [23:04] I'm trying to get wicd to coexist with Network Manager. I want wicd-curses for recovery mode only. I modified the NM upstart job to not start in runlevel S but wicd starts in runlevel 2, even with the init script removed. Why? [23:06] pitti: Preliminary testing shows much better performance compared to the last time I checked, however a lot of the desktop is inaccessible, due to something somewhere still wanting bonobo-activation-server et al to be running. [23:07] pitti: Re at-spi2. [23:07] Hopefully that won't be too hard to track down. [23:09] pitti: Could be that I built an at-spi2 package incorrectly. [23:12] hey seb128 - in natty, it apperas that the schema registration for /schemas/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/apt/enabled does no longer work - what should I do instead [23:12] mvo, read you bug reports? ;-) [23:13] heh [23:13] mvo, bug #698181 [23:14] seb128: Bug 698181 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/698181 is private [23:14] x-scheme-handler/apt ftl [23:14] seb128: *cough* thanks! [23:14] mvo, you have a merge request on it [23:14] mvo, you don't like mterry right? [23:14] ;-) [23:15] mvo, I have a branch filed to fix that [23:15] I love mterry [23:15] mvo, waiting for review [23:15] mterry, that's what I was just saying ;-) [23:15] mvo, oh, that's what seb128 was saying [23:15] mvo, so why don't you review his patches? ;-) [23:15] * seb128 stops tickling mvo [23:15] * mterry is a few minutes too slow today [23:15] seb128: because i'm on a sprint! [23:16] mvo, it was open a week before the sprint! [23:16] seb128: on thursday night [23:16] seb128: right before leaving to the sprint [23:16] mvo: you were just waiting for lp to go down to look at it, right? [23:16] seb128: ;) [23:16] mvo, ok, fair enough ;-) [23:16] dobey: it was the other way around, LP waited for me before it went down :p [23:16] mvo, in any case merge it and let's be happy! [23:16] heh [23:17] seb128: yeah, it looks good [23:17] sure it is, it's coming from mterry ;-) [23:18] how do i tell debuild to unpack and configure, but not build a package? just exit after doing the ./configure? [23:21] dobey: there's no way to do that that'll work with all packages - the only things a rules file has to support is "build" (i.e. everything you don't have to do as root) and "binary" (i.e. everything you do have to do as root) [23:22] ebroder: ok. well i only care about one package right now, network-manager-applet [23:23] dobey: i don't know how that package is put together, but you might be able to do something like "debian/rules configure" or "debian/rules configure-stamp" or maybe even "debian/rules debian/configure-stamp" [23:24] it uses cdbs gnome.mk [23:25] i was hoping for something i could pass to debuild though, so that i can do it by running bzr bd -- $something [23:25] to keep the working tree clean and build elsewhere [23:25] like one can do in rpm ;) === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [23:26] dobey: well if that's all you want to do, just use pbuilder or sbuild [23:28] no, i want to do some manual work in the build tree (which is why i want to only do the pre-build steps)