| ebroder | kees: ++ for "block rare net module autoloading: INPROGRESS" :) | 00:09 |
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| kees | ebroder: hehe :) | 00:12 |
| kees | ebroder: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2011-January/013990.html | 00:12 |
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| lifeless | mathiaz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/650487 | 02:55 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 650487 in Launchpad itself "Mark new revisions since superseeded merge proposal in code review" [Low,Triaged] | 02:56 |
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| PetrHH | Hello | 11:45 |
| PetrHH | my program is using mysqld and stores data in user's home directories | 11:45 |
| PetrHH | so I have to add one rule to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld | 11:46 |
| PetrHH | but I'm afraid what happens after update apparmor. Will be this file restored with default values? | 11:46 |
| PetrHH | May I create my own rule file and put it somewhere? Where? | 11:47 |
| PetrHH | Thank you for help. | 11:47 |
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| soren | PetrHH: Your changes won't be overwritten. | 11:57 |
| shankao | I think that you'll be offered to keep, replace or diff the changes | 11:57 |
| soren | PetrHH: The user will be prompted about the changes. | 11:57 |
| soren | PetrHH: What I recommend instead is a separate file. | 11:57 |
| soren | PetrHH: That grants the additional privileges. | 11:57 |
| PetrHH | soren, Thank you. Separate file will be better. Do you have any idea where to place it and the name of file? I tried to find it in apparmor documentation but is is huge and very complicated. | 12:00 |
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| soren | PetrHH: I'd rather leave that to someone who's actually any good with apparmour. jdstrand, perhaps? ^^ | 12:10 |
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| PetrHH | soren, Thank you for your help. I'll wait for jdstrand and will ask him. | 12:14 |
| sbeattie | PetrHH: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld is a conf file, and so on updates you'd be prompted to keep or drop your changes to that file. | 12:28 |
| sbeattie | PetrHH: if you're running maverick, you can make your changes to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld and it will keep them and avoid prompting you on updates. | 12:28 |
| sbeattie | (remember to do /etc/init.d/apparmor reload after making your changes) | 12:29 |
| PetrHH | sbeattie, I'm afraid whe user will be prompted, he will click to drop changes and it will be gone :-) | 12:29 |
| PetrHH | I'd like to have packages for version 10.04 and newer | 12:30 |
| PetrHH | and now using 10.04 | 12:30 |
| soren | sbeattie: Is it possible to add a completely separate file that grants additional privileges to /usr/sbin/mysqld? | 12:33 |
| soren | sbeattie: Or will whichever is loaded last take precedence or something like that? | 12:34 |
| soren | sbeattie: ...since this doesn't really seem like "local" modifications. They're modifications that another package wants to make. | 12:34 |
| sbeattie | soren: the shipped apparmor policy needs to be constructed to do that, but yes, it's possible to arrange things so that additional packages can drop files into a .d/ directory that gets automatically included. | 12:37 |
| soren | sbeattie: Hm... Ok. What were to happen if I just added another file in /etc/apparmor.d/ that also tried to set some rules for a file that was covered by another file? | 12:38 |
| sbeattie | soren: we do this right now for the example apache2 profile we ship in (I think) the apparmor-profiles package; it automatically imports stuff from /etc/apparmor.d/apache2.d/ | 12:38 |
| sbeattie | soren: they'll be treated as separate profiles, and one will be loaded instead of the other (last one wins, probably) | 12:40 |
| soren | sbeattie: Ok, that's what I thought. | 12:40 |
| soren | sbeattie: Thanks! | 12:40 |
| sbeattie | soren: sure | 12:40 |
| soren | PetrHH: So, it seems you want to file a bug against the mysql packages, asking for such a directory, and then you'd provide such a file in your package. | 12:41 |
| soren | jdstrand: Never mind, we sorted it out. | 12:41 |
| PetrHH | I add this @{HOME}/.config/cqrlog/database/** rwk, line to usr.sbin.mysqld | 12:43 |
| PetrHH | I'm not sure what you mean. I should add bug to mysql package and ask for add my line to apparmor profile? | 12:44 |
| soren | PetrHH: No. | 12:45 |
| soren | PetrHH: 12:37 < sbeattie> soren: the shipped apparmor policy needs to be constructed to do that, but yes, it's possible to arrange things so that | 12:45 |
| soren | additional packages can drop files into a .d/ directory that gets automatically included. | 12:45 |
| soren | PetrHH: So, you file a bug asking for such a .d/ directory, and then you adjust your package to drop a file into that directory, granting this additional privilege to mysqld. | 12:46 |
| sbeattie | PetrHH: after you file the bug, please add me as a subscriber to it (my launchpad id is the same as my irc nick) | 12:46 |
| PetrHH | sbeattie, I just tried to create new file called usr.sbin.mysqld-cqrlog and add my rules to it | 12:50 |
| PetrHH | and after that I restarted apparmor | 12:50 |
| PetrHH | and it is working | 12:51 |
| PetrHH | It looks like no bugs needed | 12:51 |
| sbeattie | PetrHH: no, the bug is still needed; in your case, your mysql profile with the added rules happens to be winning (or really, losing) a "race" and if the apparmor int script decides to load the policies in a different order in the future, it will stop working. | 12:52 |
| sbeattie | (also, if we ship a mysql update with an update to its apparmor profile, your copied profile won't get the changes.) | 12:55 |
| PetrHH | sbeattie, Now I understand. It works because my fire rewrites rules whis were set before | 12:55 |
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| PetrHH | sbeattie, Is there any way how to do it? I have ask for that directory all distributions using apparmor and wait if they agree and add directory for me | 13:19 |
| PetrHH | I don't thing that is good. | 13:20 |
| PetrHH | I know that akonadi is also using mysqld | 13:22 |
| PetrHH | but it looks they have their own mysqld called mysqld-akonadi | 13:22 |
| PetrHH | so they just add their own rule to apparmor.d | 13:23 |
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| cdbs | Any idea why this FTBFS is happening? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62113228/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.haveged_0.9-3ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz Is GCC broken in natty? | 15:45 |
| cdbs | doko: ^ | 15:45 |
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| cdbs | Okay thanks, I got it | 15:56 |
| cr3 | when preseeding, what's the difference between partman-partitioning/confirm_write_new_label and partman/confirm_write_new_label? | 16:00 |
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| JackyAlcine | cr3: One writes a drive label, while the other a volume label. | 16:01 |
| cr3 | JackyAlcine: thanks, exactly what I needed to know | 16:02 |
| JackyAlcine | No problem. | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | JackyAlcine: no, that is not correct. | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | cr3: the former exists, while the latter does not (any more). | 16:03 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: since when? | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | cr3: partman-base 114, so hardy. | 16:04 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: man, someone dropped the ball and that's me :) | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | in both cases, "label" refers to the partition table (traditionally called "disklabel" especially by the BSDs) | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | (I know they aren't quite the same thing but the abstraction is similar) | 16:05 |
| hallyn | tseliot: SpamapS is having broadcom troubles - dkms failed to build the module. what manual steps can he take to get it up so he can run? | 16:08 |
| tseliot | hallyn: I need to see the error | 16:09 |
| hallyn | tseliot: he did symlink bcm43xx-0.fw under /lib/firmware/brcm | 16:09 |
| hallyn | hm | 16:09 |
| hallyn | tseliot: /var/lib/dkms/bcmwl/.../build/src/wl/sys/wl_linux.c: IN function 'wl_attach': | 16:09 |
| hallyn | 487:3: error: implicit declaration of function 'init_MUTEX' | 16:09 |
| doko | cdbs: look at the config.log? | 16:10 |
| cdbs | doko: I got it. | 16:10 |
| tseliot | hallyn: that happens without the patch that I uploaded | 16:10 |
| cdbs | doko: it was a simple change, the CC var was being set improperly | 16:10 |
| hallyn | he just updated this morning | 16:10 |
| hallyn | nm, | 16:10 |
| hallyn | tseliot: apparently he did not :) | 16:10 |
| hallyn | tseliot: thanks | 16:10 |
| tseliot | hallyn: np | 16:10 |
| hallyn | tseliot: however, i did a dpkg -i of the kernel package this morning (to revert some test changes), and lost the firwmare links again. | 16:11 |
| hallyn | tseliot: i just symlinked them and was back up, but assume i shouldn't have lost them | 16:11 |
| tseliot | hallyn: firmware links? | 16:11 |
| hallyn | /lib/firmware/brcm/bcm43xx-0.fw and bcm43xx_hdr-0.fw | 16:12 |
| hallyn | after dpkg -r linux-image; dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/linux-image....deb, they were gone | 16:12 |
| tseliot | hallyn: what problem are you trying to solve? | 16:12 |
| hallyn | tseliot: what do you mean? i had a custom linux-image that i wanted to revert (with higher version # than current kernel) | 16:13 |
| hallyn | tseliot: point is just that 'dpkg -r; dpkg -i' seemed to kill my broadcom firwmare setup | 16:13 |
| hallyn | tseliot: so someone might end up having problems, is all i'm saying | 16:14 |
| tseliot | hallyn: the modules that dkms provides should override whatever the kernel has. I'm not sure about firmwares though | 16:15 |
| tseliot | this is why I was asking | 16:15 |
| hallyn | tseliot: after wireless wasn't working i tried to remove and install 'linux-firmware', but that didn't do it. So basically I have no idea (a) why the firmware first disappeared, or (b) where it is *supposed* to come from (am i supposed to do some dkms command?) | 16:17 |
| tseliot | hallyn: wait a second, the broadcom package shouldn't have anything to do with that firmware file. It only blacklists bcm43xx when you install it (it also does modprobe -r) | 16:21 |
| hallyn | tseliot: i have no idea what removed that firmware file | 16:22 |
| hallyn | if/when it happens again i'll try to pay more attention :) | 16:23 |
| tseliot | ok | 16:24 |
| apw | pitti, hey ... seems a huge hunk of kernel's WIs have gone missing: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.html | 16:37 |
| apw | pitti, aware of the cause ? | 16:37 |
| pitti | apw: I wasn't aware of that, no | 16:41 |
| pitti | apw: I added some extra textual "over time" report, but didn't change anything in the collector | 16:41 |
| apw | pitti, hrm, i wonder if it happened to anyone else | 16:42 |
| pitti | so it wasn't just your team dropping WIs for natty | 16:42 |
| apw | pitti, not that i am aware of, i see desktop has a smaller drop at the same time, much smaller | 16:43 |
| apw | pitti, but perhaps someone broke a work item list during an update | 16:44 |
| apw | pitti, so will investigate on that angle for now | 16:44 |
| apw | pitti, ok it seems to be all of one of my team members items which are gone, it must be user error, panic over | 16:48 |
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| micahg | doko: a build error, foo is defined in DSO /usr/lib/bar.so is a no-add-needed error? | 16:50 |
| doko | micahg: most likely, yes. build log? | 16:50 |
| micahg | doko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml++2.6/+bug/699897/+attachment/1787247/+files/last_operation.log | 16:50 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 699897 in libxml++2.6 (Ubuntu) "Packaging request for libxml++ 2.33.1" [Wishlist,In progress] | 16:50 |
| micahg | I just want to get the terminology right when upstreaming the patch | 16:51 |
| apw | jdstrand, hey .. have you been post-poning work items on n-security-apparmor ? | 16:51 |
| SpamapS | Hm, so I just updated to natty and it seems like many of my gnome settings are being ignored | 16:51 |
| SpamapS | err. updated to the latest natty, been on natty a while now | 16:51 |
| SpamapS | keyboard settings.. gtk theme.. all stuck at default | 16:52 |
| doko | micahg: "so try adding it to the linker command line" together with the information that the referenced symbol is not in a library but in examples/dom_build/main.o | 16:52 |
| micahg | doko: yeah, that works, I just wanted to know what to call it | 16:52 |
| pitti | apw: did your team structure change recently? | 16:54 |
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| apw | pitti, turns out it is security ... they have posponed a bunch of stuff without marking them postponed, but by moving them over to a new invalid title | 17:00 |
| apw | i think i need to get them to copy them back ... will poke | 17:00 |
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| pitti | apw: ah, that explains it, thanks! | 17:01 |
| kees | apw: right, we moved a huge chunk of future work out. we can dup it back as postponed if you want? | 17:01 |
| pitti | *phew* | 17:01 |
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| robert_ancell | ScottK, The recent WebKit build failed due to differing C++ symbols (there is one .symbols file in the WebKit debian/ dir). I tried the instructions in http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html, but it only modifies one symbol and the build failures show multiple symbols that conflict. Do you know a method of making the .symbols file work in natty? | 17:04 |
| pitti | apw: evo says "room to be announced" | 17:17 |
| robert_ancell | doko, do you have any ideas about this symbol issue? ^^^ | 17:24 |
| doko | robert_ancell: use the unmangled name? | 17:25 |
| robert_ancell | doko, how do I do that? I tried the pkg-kde method but it didn't seem to work | 17:26 |
| doko | robert_ancell: dpkg-gensymbols(1) | 17:26 |
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| * SpamapS just gives up and gets back to work on his ugly grey circa 1999 gnome desktop | 17:28 | |
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| robert_ancell | doko, thanks | 17:30 |
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| mpt | YokoZar, hi, I'm doing the Wine-in-USC spec now. Is there a name for that standard you've come up with for finding+removing "managed" Wine applications? | 17:46 |
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| ebroder | RAOF: by the way, having dug more deeply into the g-s-d code, it does set a mode when it launches, it just does so using completely different logic from when a monitor gets hotplugged. so the X patch would not be strictly necessary, but would likely make the transition a bit less flickery | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | slangasek: I tried 8 nfs mounts with the new portmap/statd and delays inserted in fsck/statd/portmap .. seems to work though I'm not sure why. | 18:20 |
| jussi | I remember Scott Remnant was working on android apps natively in ubuntu - does anyone know what happened to this? do they work, are the bits available somewhere? | 18:22 |
| RAOF | ebroder: The g-s-d modeset-on-startup is kinda a bug - seb patched it (in Maverick?) to check a gconf key to determine whether or not to actually do that. | 18:25 |
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| robbiew | jussi: you might try asking rickspencer3 | 18:45 |
| jussi | robbiew: ok, thanks! | 18:46 |
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| SpamapS | slangasek: ok I figured it out. The reason it works ok is that mountall blocks *before* forking to run the mount command. | 20:32 |
| jhunt_ | apw: just noticed that magic sysrq appears to be enabled in natty, although /proc/sys/kern/sysrq is 0... ? | 20:36 |
| hockebocke | are there any ubuntu gnome devs channel? | 20:41 |
| kklimonda | hockebocke: most of the team responsible for gnome on Ubuntu sits in the #ubuntu-desktop | 20:42 |
| ogra | Daviey, http://www.grawert.net:81/rooms/, http://fhem.de/fhem.html and the hw is http://www.elv.de/Sensoren/x.aspx/cid_74/detail_1/detail2_1738 and http://www.elv.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=74&detail=10&detail2=28194&flv=1&bereich=&marke= .... sorry, all german | 20:42 |
| hockebocke | kklimonda: thanks! | 20:43 |
| ogra | Daviey, its operating on 868,35 MHz wireless | 20:43 |
| Daviey | ogra, thanks! | 20:46 |
| kamal | cjwatson, or other GRUB2 folk: Various references claim that you need to hold the *left* shift key to get the GRUB2 menu to come up, but I find that the right shift key works just as well on the couple of machines I've tried. Is there any truth to that "left shift only" requirement? | 20:48 |
| apw | jhunt_, define enabled? which thing can you do which you expect to be disabled ?? | 20:48 |
| cjwatson | kamal: no truth AFAIK | 20:49 |
| jhunt_ | apw: use magic sysrq keys (ie alt+sysrq+u) | 20:49 |
| kamal | cjwatson: ok thanks | 20:49 |
| apw | jhunt_, doens't seem to work on mine ... sysrq h works when it is 1 and not when 0 | 20:49 |
| apw | jhunt_, does h work for you? | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | kamal: the code explicitly checks both left and right shift | 20:49 |
| jhunt_ | apw: The machine is sitting next to me if you're interested. | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | + if (mods >= 0 && | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | + (mods & (GRUB_TERM_STATUS_LSHIFT | GRUB_TERM_STATUS_RSHIFT)) != 0) | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | + return 1; | 20:49 |
| kamal | cjwatson: that's pretty convincing :-) | 20:50 |
| apw | cjwatson, heh thanks | 20:50 |
| apw | jhunt_, where are you | 20:50 |
| jhunt_ | apw: alamo 1 | 20:51 |
| achiang | speaking of grub, is it possible for a system that is already using grub1 to migrate to grub2? | 20:54 |
| cjwatson | yes, just install grub-pc | 20:55 |
| cjwatson | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading%20to%20GRUB%202 | 20:56 |
| achiang | thank you | 20:57 |
| achiang | does anyone know where software-properties stores its configuration information, such as frequency of updates, etc.? i'm poking around in there and in python-apt, but nothing is jumping out at me | 21:01 |
| achiang | ah, narrowing in | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | achiang: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ somewhere IIRC | 21:06 |
| * achiang finds a write_config() method in software-properties that does indeed write to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d | 21:06 | |
| achiang | thanks cjwatson | 21:06 |
| achiang | oh, and it writes to /etc/cron.daily/apt, etc. | 21:07 |
| cjwatson | no, it just makes sure that's executable | 21:07 |
| bigon | is there a public list of blacklisted packages ? | 21:10 |
| micahg | bigon: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt | 21:11 |
| bigon | thx | 21:11 |
| achiang | cjwatson: hm, yeah. actually, i wonder if i made any progress at all on this question | 21:11 |
| ScottK | robert_ancell: So far it's worked for me. Not sure what's up. | 21:15 |
| apw | jhunt_, yep after reboot i have the same, and the bug is obvious ... bah | 21:20 |
| apw | thanks | 21:20 |
| jhunt_ | apw: np | 21:21 |
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| bigcx2 | hey all | 21:50 |
| bigcx2 | i have a question about cdbs, namely the autotools makefile | 21:50 |
| bigcx2 | there's a flag called DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT_ENV | 21:51 |
| bigcx2 | where the options passed into that can get pushed through to the ./configure script | 21:51 |
| bigcx2 | is there any way to set the flag without hardcoding it in debian/rules? | 21:52 |
| bigcx2 | aka passing it into dpkg-buildpackage, pbuilder, etc. | 21:52 |
| bigcx2 | ? | 21:52 |
| cjwatson | you can set an environment variable on calling dpkg-buildpackage and that may be passed through if you're lucky | 21:53 |
| bigcx2 | what if i'm unlucky :/ | 21:53 |
| JackyAlcine | bigcx2: Good chances you aren't. | 21:54 |
| bigcx2 | yea, i'm thinking i'm unlucky | 21:54 |
| bigcx2 | i'm trying it right now, but i don't think it will work | 21:54 |
| bigcx2 | i was also thinking of using dpatch, but i don't think that will work for patching debian/rules either... | 21:55 |
| cjwatson | no. why not just change debian/rules? | 21:55 |
| cjwatson | also, note that if you're using debuild then you have to pass environment variables in a special way; see its manual page | 21:56 |
| bigcx2 | the way the source of the package works is you have to pass a special environment variable to ./configure to set it up based on a given directory | 21:57 |
| bigcx2 | i'd rather not have to have the package builder edit debian/rules if possible | 21:57 |
| bigcx2 | looks like i'm unlucky | 21:58 |
| bigcx2 | poop, i don't think there's any other way to get around it | 22:01 |
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| sconklin | pitti: do you know what happened to the verification tags? | 22:47 |
| cody-somerville | cjwatson, re: LP #664115, is there a test case I can perform to verify that removing the 'udevadm settle' call doesn't break whatever it was originally added in for. | 22:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 664115 in OEM Priority Project "chroot loop devices stall for extremely long periods" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664115 | 22:48 |
| cody-somerville | ? | 22:48 |
| pitti | sconklin: I think so; most bugs have them, but I found those which don't: bug 669279 bug 493156 | 22:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 669279 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[ICH4 - Intel ICH6] Dell Latitude D610 - Master mixer doesn't affect headphone output" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669279 | 22:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 493156 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "Please enable CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493156 | 22:48 |
| pitti | sconklin: the problem with those is that these bugs are filed against the wrong package | 22:49 |
| pitti | sconklin: the latter was fixed in linux-ec2, not linux | 22:49 |
| cjwatson | cody-somerville: not as such. the original change was for either LVM or RAID installs, possibly both. | 22:50 |
| sconklin | it looks to me like none of the lucid ones have them. https://kernel-tools.canonical.com/srus.html | 22:50 |
| sconklin | all the ones with the triangle logo don't have the tags | 22:51 |
| pitti | sconklin: unsure; I just might have forgotten to run the script for lucid, doing now | 22:58 |
| bjf | pitti, if you look at the url sconklin pointed you too, you can see that it needs to be run for maverick as well | 22:59 |
| pitti | sconklin, bjf: sorry, LP just pulled the rug underneath me; need to run maverick later | 23:00 |
| bjf | pitti, ack | 23:00 |
| ogra | cjwatson, can you let ti-omap4-software-channel-0.1 into the archive (its in NEW) so i can close the WI | 23:00 |
| StevenK | I'd suggest that isn't now, due to LP being down | 23:03 |
| cjwatson | indeed | 23:05 |
| ogra | grmbl ... yeah, cant close WIs | 23:07 |
| ogra | (though the LP message is "will be down very soon") | 23:08 |
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