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udienz | geser, i took your package (wavesurfer) thanks to mentions on m.u.c | 12:05 |
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hyperair | was there a solution to the /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation | 16:46 |
hyperair | errors? | 16:46 |
geser | hyperair: what's the line before that? (or pastebin the whole error) | 16:59 |
hyperair | /usr/bin/ld: note: 'XFlush' is defined in DSO /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line | 16:59 |
hyperair | i mean yeah, sure -lX11 should do the trick | 16:59 |
geser | yes | 16:59 |
hyperair | but why isn't that flag included in gtk's .pc file? | 16:59 |
hyperair | running something like ./configure LDFLAGS=-lX11 feels dirty | 17:00 |
geser | why should it when your application uses symbols from -lX11? | 17:00 |
geser | and you shouldn't put -l... to LDFLAGS | 17:00 |
hyperair | er sorry | 17:00 |
hyperair | where should it go then? | 17:00 |
hyperair | LIBS or something? | 17:01 |
geser | LIBS when it's used my the Makefile | 17:01 |
Laney | LDADD? | 17:01 |
hyperair | =\ | 17:01 |
geser | or patching the Makefile.am and add it to ..._LDADD | 17:01 |
hyperair | does X11 have a .pc file? | 17:02 |
geser | yes, x11.pc | 17:04 |
hyperair | alright | 17:11 |
kklimonda | hey, any idea if this http://pastebin.com/CpFaWxa9 is still a dfsg-compliant license? | 17:35 |
tumbleweed | kklimonda: sounds reasonable (although it really should include an explicit licence statement of some sort | 17:36 |
Laney | I don't think "MIT style license" means anything | 17:38 |
tumbleweed | it's pretty clear that the author's intention is to let you do what you want, however "not enforcing" doesn't mean "you can" | 17:40 |
kklimonda | tumbleweed: it does below | 17:42 |
kklimonda | tumbleweed: I'm concerned about the second paragraph | 17:42 |
tumbleweed | kklimonda: that refers to contributions submitted to the author, not derivaties in general | 17:42 |
kklimonda | tumbleweed: right - so it's like a copyright assignment without explicit assignment? :) | 17:43 |
tumbleweed | kklimonda: that is copyright assignment, I'd say | 17:44 |
Laney | it's bonkers and he should be notified of the WTFPL | 17:44 |
Bachstelze | but without a meaningful license, so I'd say not DFSG, bit IANdebian-legal | 17:45 |
kklimonda | I guess what's I'm wondering is if it's legally binding - I'm already not entirely sure how would Canonical's copyright assignment hold in the court and this one feels even less substantianal.. | 17:45 |
kklimonda | Bachstelze: there is a normal MIT license below | 17:45 |
tumbleweed | kklimonda: copyright assignment is out of the scope of redistributability / DFSG-freeness | 17:46 |
Bachstelze | oh | 17:46 |
Bachstelze | basicalyl the same thing as the old Qt "GPL with exceptions" then | 17:46 |
kklimonda | I guess I should have pasted a whole license instead of the interesting bits: http://pastebin.com/PypEWBZ9 | 17:46 |
Bachstelze | "here's the license, and here's how we modify it" | 17:47 |
kklimonda | right | 17:47 |
kklimonda | the copyright assignment has been the only thing I was unclear about :) | 17:47 |
kklimonda | thanks for helping | 17:47 |
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manish | I have a small doubt about how to version packages to supersede existing packages | 20:31 |
manish | means so that it makes it an update of the package | 20:32 |
manish | 0.6-0manish2~0ppa1~maverick is lower version than 0.6-0ubuntu2~0ppa1~maverick ?? | 20:32 |
manish | right? | 20:32 |
Bachstelze | manish: that would depend what the current version is | 20:32 |
manish | 0.6-0ubuntu1~0ppa1~maverick | 20:33 |
manish | is the current version | 20:33 |
manish | Bachstelze: so is 0.6-0manish1~0ppa1~maverick lower version? | 20:33 |
Bachstelze | manish: % dpkg --compare-versions "0.6-0manish2~0ppa1~maverick" "<" "0.6-0ubuntu2~0ppa1~maverick" && echo "yes, it is lower" | 20:34 |
Bachstelze | yes, it is lower | 20:34 |
Bachstelze | :) | 20:34 |
Bachstelze | because m < u | 20:34 |
manish | ah. Didn't know about this --compare-versions | 20:34 |
manish | yeah, that's what I was thinking | 20:34 |
Bachstelze | but obviouslt you shouldn't rely on it | 20:34 |
manish | but isnt ~ used for version resolution? | 20:34 |
Bachstelze | it's irrelevant, because the difference appears earlier | 20:35 |
manish | if not, then ~ is used for resolution? | 20:35 |
manish | there is a second issue | 20:35 |
manish | Bachstelze: in the .changes file the .orig.tar.gz file is not mentioned | 20:36 |
micahg | manish: FYI, how the version works: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version | 20:36 |
manish | I can see in .changes file | 20:37 |
manish | Checksums-Sha1: | 20:37 |
manish | a9e77d01398045b64d6108bc9e01463cb1a9c171 1690 zeitgeist_0.6-0ubuntu1~0ppa2~maverick.dsc | 20:37 |
manish | b37853ce4adda8605d7fd56ea6843b4c55cd0243 4501 zeitgeist_0.6-0ubuntu1~0ppa2~maverick.debian.tar.gz | 20:37 |
manish | there is no mention of .orig.tar.gz so dput doesnt upload the orig tarball | 20:37 |
Bachstelze | yes | 20:37 |
manish | and the build system rejects the upload | 20:37 |
Bachstelze | you need to build it with -S -sd if you want to include the source tarball | 20:37 |
Bachstelze | (or is it -sa ?) | 20:38 |
Bachstelze | I can never remember | 20:38 |
manish | let me try | 20:38 |
Bachstelze | it's in the PPA help pages on LP | 20:38 |
geser | -sa (a like all), -sd is diff only | 20:38 |
manish | Bachstelze: geser I tried -sa works :) | 20:38 |
dapal | evaluate: tonight I hope to give a look to CMS ;) | 20:49 |
evaluate | dapal, whenever you have the time. I'm pretty busy myself this week, so I didn't have much time to test it properly either, but I hope I can take some time in the weekend to review it again and maybe fix some more problems if I (or you) can spot any... | 20:51 |
dapal | evaluate: ah. I have an exam next week -- better if I delay it altogether then :) | 20:52 |
dapal | evaluate: so, back to my books now :/ | 20:52 |
evaluate | ok. good luck! :-) | 20:53 |
evaluate | dapal, also, I've put my eyes on another program that I'd find interesting to package, so I'll keep you busy for a couple more weeks :p | 20:55 |
dapal | evaluate: sure, what is it? | 20:55 |
evaluate | dapal, it's called bbclone (www.bbclone.de), it's a counter/statistics software for websites. I use it on all of my sites actually... | 20:57 |
dapal | ah, I don't know it. Seems like you're interested in web-app packaging :) | 20:57 |
evaluate | not necessarily, I just thought about these because I use them myself. btw, I just noticed that bbclone seems to be in stable already. Any idea why it isn't in testing/sid though? | 20:59 |
dapal | maybe it was removed.. let's see | 21:00 |
dapal | evaluate: it's been removed in July 2010 | 21:01 |
dapal | evaluate: ROM; dead upstream, license issues, low popcon | 21:01 |
evaluate | dapal, I don't know what ROM is, but the latest update was done at "Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:07:03 +0100", so upstream is far from dead, and the project is licensed under GPL3, so I don'tsee how that can pose any issues... | 21:02 |
dapal | evaluate: Request Of Maintainer | 21:03 |
evaluate | uhum | 21:03 |
dapal | evaluate: yes, I was looking at the website. Maybe it included some problematic thing, at the time | 21:03 |
dapal | evaluate: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=590332 | 21:03 |
dapal | ah, icons | 21:03 |
dapal | evaluate: I'd say that, if you're able to cope with the icons issue (if it still holds), you could just get the old package from stable, and continue from that one | 21:04 |
dapal | evaluate: so we also preserve the package history | 21:04 |
evaluate | hmm. I'll have a closer look at this. I'm interested in the package anyway and I also thought about sharing some patches with upstream... | 21:06 |
evaluate | btw, I just had a quick look at the local copy of the package that I have and I can't see any separate license for the images, so I'd guess they are also GPL3... | 21:10 |
dapal | it's better if you ask upstream :) | 21:10 |
evaluate | or I guess I could talk to the former maintainer of the package, maybe he could tell me what the actual problems with the icons were... | 21:12 |
dapal | :) | 21:12 |
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