| izinucs | Is there a preferred method of getting files downloaded from bazaar.launchpad.net?? other than "right mouse click save as" file after file after directory etc.. ? | 06:15 |
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| jamie | morning california team | 15:38 |
| jtatum | hello | 15:49 |
| jledbetter | hello | 16:01 |
| MarkDude | Hello everyone | 16:16 |
| pleia2 | evening MarkDude | 16:17 |
| pleia2 | SF ubuntu hour + debian meeting tonight \o/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/612/detail/ | 16:17 |
| MarkDude | You need to go to the next SuperNerdNight pleia2 | 16:17 |
| jtatum | evening? | 16:17 |
| MarkDude | jtatum, play along :) | 16:17 |
| jtatum | oh boy | 16:18 |
| MarkDude | Scared me for a second, I have a conference call in a few minutes for CLS | 16:18 |
| * MarkDude does not want to miss the last one | 16:18 | |
| jledbetter | MarkDude, Is there such a thing? | 17:09 |
| MarkDude | jledbetter, what? | 17:09 |
| jledbetter | MarkDude, SuperNerdNight | 17:09 |
| MarkDude | Yes | 17:10 |
| jledbetter | Haha. Great name. | 17:10 |
| * MarkDude would have invited you had you been on this Coast | 17:10 | |
| MarkDude | there will be one next month | 17:10 |
| MarkDude | Cool, crowd there. | 17:10 |
| jledbetter | I bet :) | 17:11 |
| MarkDude | All sorts of video and real games, like the board type | 17:11 |
| MarkDude | They had Raskulls as a big game on a projected screen | 17:17 |
| * MarkDude felt at home when he walked in | 17:17 | |
| * jdeslip totally forgot there was an Ubuntu Hour tonight... | 17:24 | |
| jdeslip | we should set up a shared Google calendar for the team :) | 17:24 |
| jdeslip | So someone else can update it with all the events, and I can reap the benefits of having it included :) | 17:25 |
| akk | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ is hard to read -- it would help a lot if it had a "Location" field on it. | 17:26 |
| akk | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california is better, at least it has locations. | 17:28 |
| akk | But mailing list notifications would be better, for people who don't remember to check the website periodically. | 17:29 |
| jdeslip | But none of those can be incorporated into my google calendar :) | 17:33 |
| jdeslip | at least not automatically | 17:33 |
| jledbetter | jdeslip, +1 | 17:35 |
| akk | If we had some standard-format listing somewhere, it could be used to generate both mailing list notices and a google calendar. | 17:36 |
| MarkDude | jdeslip, akk you going to CLS? | 17:37 |
| * MarkDude is going to send a reminder to the list | 17:37 | |
| rww | jdeslip: LD theoretically has iCal exports. You can't point Google Calendar at them? | 17:38 |
| rww | (or did they break again) | 17:38 |
| jdeslip | I just tried to import the iCal feed into one of my google calendars but got error: | 17:40 |
| jdeslip | Error at line 561: Expected [VEVENT], read [VCALENDAR] | 17:40 |
| akk | MarkDude: I don't think so ... think I need to rest and/or catch up from being sick most of this week. | 17:41 |
| MarkDude | Damn | 17:41 |
| rww | jdeslip: ah. must be broken again. I'll take a look at fixing it tonight if I remember. | 17:41 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: I'm not sure yet. I registered, but have other engagements as well :/ | 17:41 |
| rww | jdeslip: oh, never mind. someone already did | 17:41 |
| jdeslip | rww: sweet. Let me know if you get working. | 17:42 |
| rww | https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/623288 | 17:42 |
| rww | should be fixed next time a new LD version gets pushed out | 17:42 |
| MarkDude | Your plant has produced 1 ground cherry so far- and like 5 more are on getting ready :) | 17:42 |
| * MarkDude goes on curse-filled-rant about Cali team flaking on going to CLS | 17:46 | |
| MarkDude | :D | 17:46 |
| jdeslip | It seems like even if importing the ics file works, it will not automatically update the Google calendar. Everytime a new event is added you have to re-import the ical file :/ | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | for wishlist items: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | loco.ubuntu.com is in heavy development, they add feature requests often :) | 17:50 |
| rww | jdeslip: hrm, sure? I vaguely remember being able to set an iCal file on the web as a subscription source | 17:50 |
| rww | I might be confusing it with my attempts to get Evolution working, though | 17:50 |
| jdeslip | rww: Well, it is definitely possible I am not seeing something :/ | 17:51 |
| akk | Is there any sort of standard way to have an ical or xml or other machine-readable list of events, and let people add to it easily? | 17:53 |
| rww | akk: yes, is called "Google Calendar" >.> | 17:53 |
| * rww hasn't found a better solution | 17:53 | |
| akk | Can you show a Google Calendar for a team as a web page everybody can read without their own google account? | 17:54 |
| akk | I've only used it for personal stuff. | 17:54 |
| rww | yes | 17:54 |
| rww | iirc, the standardized way of doing it in general is WebDAV + iCalendar format. WebDAV isn't exactly a standard feature of hosting servers, hence the obscurity. | 17:54 |
| rww | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar uses Google Calendar, if you're looking for an example. The only major issue I've seen is that it gets confused by UTC sometimes. | 17:55 |
| jdeslip | rww: I guess I found a way for google calendar to subscribe to an iCal feed. However, it fails for the team calendar due to above issue. I will try again when fix is rolled out. | 17:56 |
| jdeslip | The setting was hidden under "browse interesting calendars" and then "add by URL" | 17:58 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: Is there an agenda for CLS somewhere? | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | Yes | 18:03 |
| jdeslip | Does it have a URL? ;) | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | all I see so far is http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/wiki/index.php/CLS_West_Session_Ideas | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | can't find an actual agenda :\ | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude? | 18:33 |
| MarkDude | Sorry- Im talking to another conference organizer about my talk details | 18:35 |
| MarkDude | http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/wiki/index.php/CLS_West | 18:36 |
| pleia2 | right, but the agenda? | 18:36 |
| MarkDude | http://clswest2011.eventbrite.com/ | 18:36 |
| MarkDude | thats as close as you will get | 18:36 |
| MarkDude | It *is* an unconference | 18:37 |
| pleia2 | ok | 18:37 |
| aaditya | Isn't the idea of an unconference to not have an agenda until the event day? | 18:38 |
| MarkDude | aaditya, well yes | 18:38 |
| MarkDude | At this point we have session ideas | 18:38 |
| pleia2 | the session ideas page doesn't have any content | 18:39 |
| * MarkDude is seeign if folks would like to do a session where we learn how to do hackergotchis | 18:39 | |
| MarkDude | pleia2, I know | 18:39 |
| aaditya | The idea is to walk in without ideas :D | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | we are maybe 2 weeks behind where we were last year as far as spreading info | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | aaditya, i always have ideas, I cants stop em | 18:40 |
| aaditya | MarkDude: of course, we can never walk in without ideas | 18:41 |
| aaditya | and it's good to have a session ideas page. Even better if it contains some ideas :) | 18:42 |
| * MarkDude had folks that said they would help with a best of list | 18:43 | |
| MarkDude | they no here now | 18:43 |
| * MarkDude just got swamped with some potential contracts. Nothing super interesting yet. Enough tho to let me know I will have a few options, even if they are not my ideal | 18:44 | |
| kdub | psh, hackergotchis. totally photoshopped :P | 18:44 |
| aaditya | err... gimp | 18:45 |
| * MarkDude has never used photoshop | 18:45 | |
| MarkDude | http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/ | 18:45 |
| MarkDude | Maybe once a long time ago | 18:45 |
| * MarkDude rocks the FOSS stuff | 18:45 | |
| kdub | aaditya: jokes all around, eh? | 18:46 |
| kdub | i do my photo editing in vim | 18:46 |
| kdub | MarkDude: i'd like to go to cls west, just from that link, but i think its too far north | 18:47 |
| MarkDude | ffmpeg, who needs to actually *see* the videos they edit? | 18:47 |
| MarkDude | devry? | 18:47 |
| akk | heh, I was talking to the video guy at our toastmasters club about how he edits the videos after the meeting | 18:47 |
| kdub | i was summer of code for ffmpeg 2y ago... | 18:48 |
| akk | and he said he had a script to cut them at specific times, then he reassembles them with cat :) | 18:48 |
| MarkDude | hmmm | 18:48 |
| * MarkDude looks for the large *easy button* | 18:48 | |
| aaditya | kdub: vim? :O I was hoping you'd say emacs! | 18:48 |
| akk | I had no idea you could splice video together with cat ... obviously it doesn't work with all formats, this is mjpeg or something from the camera. | 18:48 |
| * MarkDude runs from the holy war | 18:49 | |
| akk | I edited an audio file in emacs once! | 18:49 |
| aaditya | akk: was it still audible at the end? | 18:49 |
| akk | Just to cut off a bunch of silence at the end. The resulting file gave errors but sounded fine. | 18:49 |
| aaditya | wow, nice | 18:49 |
| * MarkDude edited a few of the Code Camp videos on my Terra HD, I had to do it without video preview, only audio | 18:50 | |
| kdub | cat-ing the files sometimes works, sometimes it can mess up poorly written decoders though | 18:50 |
| aaditya | kdub: how far do you live from SF? | 18:54 |
| kdub | 20 miles north of mexico | 18:54 |
| nhaines | ha | 18:54 |
| aaditya | San Diego, hmm. | 18:55 |
| MarkDude | Ok thats a bit far :D | 18:55 |
| MarkDude | that would make nhaines closer than you | 18:55 |
| MarkDude | lol | 18:55 |
| jamie | i live in valolejo may be 30 mins fro sf | 18:55 |
| jamie | ok supposed to be vallejo | 18:55 |
| MarkDude | jamie, I like the 1st way better | 18:55 |
| MarkDude | You should make it to this then jamie | 18:56 |
| jamie | ok i just walked into this conversation. what are we talking about again | 18:57 |
| pleia2 | the community leadership summit in daly city on saturday http://clswest2011.eventbrite.com/ | 18:58 |
| jamie | what is it and when? | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | all the details are in that link | 18:59 |
| jamie | thanks i just found it | 19:00 |
| MarkDude | Lots of great people there | 19:01 |
| MarkDude | I met some new friends at the last one | 19:01 |
| MarkDude | As well as gaining some great contacts | 19:01 |
| MarkDude | This year we should have even more Linux folks. We should have a nice critical mass | 19:02 |
| jamie | without sounding too lame ill see if my wife will let me go lol | 19:02 |
| * MarkDude is not judging :) | 19:02 | |
| MarkDude | happiness on the homefront is very important | 19:03 |
| MarkDude | Catered dinner after it also - we will have some folks to help in a Tea Ceremony also | 19:03 |
| MarkDude | Middle east food at night- Indian for the day | 19:04 |
| jamie | definitely. whenever i try to go to a tech event i always get that look | 19:04 |
| MarkDude | this event has one of the most diverse crowds also | 19:05 |
| MarkDude | cool cross section of folks | 19:05 |
| MarkDude | OSCON # 1, CLSwest #2, other conferences after that, imho | 19:06 |
| * MarkDude just found out that 2 of his talks are approved for Scale | 20:16 | |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: So, there are no pre-arranged speakers for the "unconference" ? | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | FOSS Mentoring and why and how we should help new users- it is an UpSCALE talk. | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | jdeslip, no | 20:26 |
| pleia2 | congrats MarkDude | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | Kaylia and folks Like Sudha Jamthe are going to do sessions there | 20:27 |
| MarkDude | You get choices | 20:27 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, Ty | 20:27 |
| MarkDude | I am hella stoked | 20:27 |
| pleia2 | mjoseph asked why I am not speaking | 20:27 |
| pleia2 | "because I'm shy and didn't submit a talk" | 20:27 |
| pleia2 | :D | 20:27 |
| * MarkDude used you as primary source for my responsibilities in FOSS talk | 20:28 | |
| MarkDude | So you are, just by proxy ;) | 20:28 |
| pleia2 | that works | 20:28 |
| MarkDude | http://ostatic.com/blog/businesses-need-clear-policies-for-foss-contributions | 20:28 |
| pleia2 | I should actually do another talk sometime, practice is they key and all | 20:28 |
| MarkDude | Hi, my name is Lyz, and I have good smart stuff written all over the internets :D | 20:29 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, it is the key for sure | 20:29 |
| MarkDude | the closer to your passion the easier it will be with practice | 20:29 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 20:29 |
| MarkDude | The 2nd talk is My If Tux the Penguin offered you Kool Aid- would you drink it talk - that will be during the day. The FOSS talk is the Upscale thing. 5 minutes- 20 slides- like Ignite talks | 20:31 |
| akk | upscale? | 21:12 |
| MarkDude | tOn Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Courtney Draper <courtneybdraper@gmail.com> wrote: | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | Sorry we have different views on they way employees should be handled......I know how much you care for me and my best interest. Thank you again for giving me a great reference and I will put your name down for future references. | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | Best of Luck to ZaReason | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | -Courtney | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Cathy Malmrose <cathy@zareason.com> wrote: | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Courtney Draper <courtneybdraper@gmail.com> wrote: | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Cathy Malmrose <cathy@zareason.com> wrote: | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | Courtney, | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | One last note to make sure you understand that the letting go was done in an extremely gentle and professional manner all things considered. I had a stack of incident reports documenting where actual money was leaking due to mistakes, but the breaking point came right at Christmas. | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | There were a lot of problems going on towards the end and it was too bad that E-mail was our only form of communication. | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | 21:13 | |
| MarkDude | In Nov, NATO had approached us, seeing if they could do long-term contracting for hardware and support through us. In early Dec we sent them a laptop, you shipped it but shipped it as a Letter. It's still in customs in Norway. (You trained for USPS shipping in Feb last year -- it wasn't a new process.) We have even considered flying to Norway to get it out of customs and to the NATO officials, but it's an insane expense and the damag | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | e is done. | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | This sounds a little confusing but no need for explaining now.... | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | I understand that you were upset about "how it was handled" but please know that you were well protected from 95% of the pain that was behind it. | 21:13 |
| pleia2 | seemed like a mispaste | 21:13 |
| akk | yeah | 21:14 |
| akk | not something that should be on the channel (even though I confess I'm now very curious :) | 21:14 |
| jdeslip | ... | 21:16 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it was a bad mistake | 21:16 |
| pleia2 | Mark said he leaned on his mouse | 21:17 |
| rww | heh. I've had irssi's paste-protection save me more than once ;P | 21:27 |
| akk | xchat seems perfectly happy with pasting big stuff in, but then it won't allow copying from one tab and pasting into another. So weird. | 21:30 |
| * jdeslip goes to learn about past protection | 21:30 | |
| akk | Protection from the past sounds quite useful, jdeslip! | 21:31 |
| rww | It's enabled by default (and disabled by one or two scripts, actually, which caused me to flood the heck out of #ubuntu-offtopic once) | 21:32 |
| rww | "21:31:47 -!- Irssi: Pasting 26 lines to ##rww. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel." | 21:32 |
| akk | Nice! | 21:32 |
| pleia2 | yeah, irssi's paste protection rocks :) | 21:33 |
| jdeslip | Is there a minimum # of lines? I was able to just paste 3 lines in another channel. | 21:33 |
| rww | 5 is the default. see /set paste_verify_line_count | 21:34 |
| jledbetter | Poor Mark | 21:38 |
| akk | I expected him to rejoin. | 21:39 |
| jledbetter | Ditto. | 21:40 |
| kdub | ruhroh, bad news bears | 21:58 |
| kdub | it seems to me that a moderately train should be available from san diego to sanfran, guess not | 22:17 |
| jtatum | not yet | 22:19 |
| akk | No Amtrack? | 22:20 |
| kdub | the socal and norcal routes are disjoint, go figure | 22:23 |
| jtatum | heh. priced it out for fun. it's a 14 hour bus + train ride for ~$140 rt. about the same price to fly | 22:27 |
| akk | Trains are usually more expensive than flying, but the bus probably brings it back down. | 22:28 |
| kdub | all in all it means no CLS :P | 22:28 |
| akk | I think it might be possible to train via Sacramento ... I'm pretty sure there's a central valley Amtrack route (or at least used to be). | 22:28 |
| kdub | down to bakersfield | 22:28 |
| akk | Then not past there? | 22:29 |
| kdub | not on the map i saw | 22:29 |
| jtatum | yeah there's a train-bus-train solution like that | 22:29 |
| jtatum | the amtrak web site is funny in its awfulness | 22:29 |
| jtatum | it shows you every possible trip, even the ridiculous ones :) | 22:29 |
| kdub | i once looked at detroit to grandrapids (4h by car) was a 12 hour ordeal through chicago | 22:30 |
| kdub | a $50 north/south california link would be phenomenal | 22:31 |
| akk | yep, I see what you mean. No other routes go to bakersfield. | 22:31 |
| jtatum | the high speed rail would do that… maybe not for $50 though | 22:31 |
| akk | I agree, would love to take a train to burbank sometimes rather than driving. | 22:31 |
| akk | no, if it ever gets built it'll be expensive, I'll bet | 22:32 |
| jtatum | http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/trip_planner.aspx | 22:32 |
| akk | considering regular amtrack is already usually more expensive than flying, at least for long trips | 22:32 |
| kdub | jtatum: is that what might get built? that would be pretty great | 22:33 |
| akk | Looks like they're spending all their money on flash developers instead of just publishing a static map and moving on to building the silly thing. :) | 22:33 |
| akk | (no non-flash map that I can find) | 22:34 |
| kdub | here's hoping that happens eventually though, high speed rail is great | 22:37 |
| rww | Martinez to LA is ridiculous. My friend used to do it. | 22:37 |
| rww | involves a bus and I think costs more than Southwest Airlines. | 22:37 |
| pleia2 | ooooh, mac launched an app store for OSX | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | that's why I keep getting the "when will ubuntu have an app store" question | 23:31 |
| akk | So, when will ubuntu have an app store? :) | 23:31 |
| * akk is crossing fingers for all the various conflicting plans to make it easier to get software into ubuntu | 23:32 | |
| rww | I don't want software to be easier to get into Ubuntu. The present difficulty is quality assurance :( | 23:33 |
| akk | Is it? | 23:33 |
| rww | Considering the quality of PPA packaging I've seen, yes. | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | the software center is an app store | 23:34 |
| akk | There's been a lot of discussion for how developers/companies could make their apps easily accessible to ubuntu users without going through the maintainer process. | 23:36 |
| kdub | debian package manage: the original app store | 23:44 |
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