[06:15] Is there a preferred method of getting files downloaded from bazaar.launchpad.net?? other than "right mouse click save as" file after file after directory etc.. ? [15:38] morning california team [15:49] hello [16:01] hello [16:16] Hello everyone [16:17] evening MarkDude [16:17] SF ubuntu hour + debian meeting tonight \o/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/612/detail/ [16:17] You need to go to the next SuperNerdNight pleia2 [16:17] evening? [16:17] jtatum, play along :) [16:18] oh boy [16:18] Scared me for a second, I have a conference call in a few minutes for CLS [16:18] * MarkDude does not want to miss the last one [17:09] MarkDude, Is there such a thing? [17:09] jledbetter, what? [17:09] MarkDude, SuperNerdNight [17:10] Yes [17:10] Haha. Great name. [17:10] * MarkDude would have invited you had you been on this Coast [17:10] there will be one next month [17:10] Cool, crowd there. [17:11] I bet :) [17:11] All sorts of video and real games, like the board type [17:17] They had Raskulls as a big game on a projected screen [17:17] * MarkDude felt at home when he walked in [17:24] * jdeslip totally forgot there was an Ubuntu Hour tonight... [17:24] we should set up a shared Google calendar for the team :) [17:25] So someone else can update it with all the events, and I can reap the benefits of having it included :) [17:26] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ is hard to read -- it would help a lot if it had a "Location" field on it. [17:28] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california is better, at least it has locations. [17:29] But mailing list notifications would be better, for people who don't remember to check the website periodically. [17:33] But none of those can be incorporated into my google calendar :) [17:33] at least not automatically [17:35] jdeslip, +1 [17:36] If we had some standard-format listing somewhere, it could be used to generate both mailing list notices and a google calendar. [17:37] jdeslip, akk you going to CLS? [17:37] * MarkDude is going to send a reminder to the list [17:38] jdeslip: LD theoretically has iCal exports. You can't point Google Calendar at them? [17:38] (or did they break again) [17:40] I just tried to import the iCal feed into one of my google calendars but got error: [17:40] Error at line 561: Expected [VEVENT], read [VCALENDAR] [17:41] MarkDude: I don't think so ... think I need to rest and/or catch up from being sick most of this week. [17:41] Damn [17:41] jdeslip: ah. must be broken again. I'll take a look at fixing it tonight if I remember. [17:41] MarkDude: I'm not sure yet. I registered, but have other engagements as well :/ [17:41] jdeslip: oh, never mind. someone already did [17:42] rww: sweet. Let me know if you get working. [17:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/623288 [17:42] should be fixed next time a new LD version gets pushed out [17:42] Your plant has produced 1 ground cherry so far- and like 5 more are on getting ready :) [17:46] * MarkDude goes on curse-filled-rant about Cali team flaking on going to CLS [17:46] :D [17:46] It seems like even if importing the ics file works, it will not automatically update the Google calendar. Everytime a new event is added you have to re-import the ical file :/ [17:49] for wishlist items: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory [17:50] loco.ubuntu.com is in heavy development, they add feature requests often :) [17:50] jdeslip: hrm, sure? I vaguely remember being able to set an iCal file on the web as a subscription source [17:50] I might be confusing it with my attempts to get Evolution working, though [17:51] rww: Well, it is definitely possible I am not seeing something :/ [17:53] Is there any sort of standard way to have an ical or xml or other machine-readable list of events, and let people add to it easily? [17:53] akk: yes, is called "Google Calendar" >.> [17:53] * rww hasn't found a better solution [17:54] Can you show a Google Calendar for a team as a web page everybody can read without their own google account? [17:54] I've only used it for personal stuff. [17:54] yes [17:54] iirc, the standardized way of doing it in general is WebDAV + iCalendar format. WebDAV isn't exactly a standard feature of hosting servers, hence the obscurity. [17:55] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar uses Google Calendar, if you're looking for an example. The only major issue I've seen is that it gets confused by UTC sometimes. [17:56] rww: I guess I found a way for google calendar to subscribe to an iCal feed. However, it fails for the team calendar due to above issue. I will try again when fix is rolled out. [17:58] The setting was hidden under "browse interesting calendars" and then "add by URL" [18:03] MarkDude: Is there an agenda for CLS somewhere? [18:03] Yes [18:07] Does it have a URL? ;) [18:33] all I see so far is http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/wiki/index.php/CLS_West_Session_Ideas [18:33] can't find an actual agenda :\ [18:33] MarkDude? [18:35] Sorry- Im talking to another conference organizer about my talk details [18:36] http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/wiki/index.php/CLS_West [18:36] right, but the agenda? [18:36] http://clswest2011.eventbrite.com/ [18:36] thats as close as you will get [18:37] It *is* an unconference [18:37] ok [18:38] Isn't the idea of an unconference to not have an agenda until the event day? [18:38] aaditya, well yes [18:38] At this point we have session ideas [18:39] the session ideas page doesn't have any content [18:39] * MarkDude is seeign if folks would like to do a session where we learn how to do hackergotchis [18:39] pleia2, I know [18:39] The idea is to walk in without ideas :D [18:39] we are maybe 2 weeks behind where we were last year as far as spreading info [18:40] aaditya, i always have ideas, I cants stop em [18:41] MarkDude: of course, we can never walk in without ideas [18:42] and it's good to have a session ideas page. Even better if it contains some ideas :) [18:43] * MarkDude had folks that said they would help with a best of list [18:43] they no here now [18:44] * MarkDude just got swamped with some potential contracts. Nothing super interesting yet. Enough tho to let me know I will have a few options, even if they are not my ideal [18:44] psh, hackergotchis. totally photoshopped :P [18:45] err... gimp [18:45] * MarkDude has never used photoshop [18:45] http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/hackergotchis/ [18:45] Maybe once a long time ago [18:45] * MarkDude rocks the FOSS stuff [18:46] aaditya: jokes all around, eh? [18:46] i do my photo editing in vim [18:47] MarkDude: i'd like to go to cls west, just from that link, but i think its too far north [18:47] ffmpeg, who needs to actually *see* the videos they edit? [18:47] devry? [18:47] heh, I was talking to the video guy at our toastmasters club about how he edits the videos after the meeting [18:48] i was summer of code for ffmpeg 2y ago... [18:48] and he said he had a script to cut them at specific times, then he reassembles them with cat :) [18:48] hmmm [18:48] * MarkDude looks for the large *easy button* [18:48] kdub: vim? :O I was hoping you'd say emacs! [18:48] I had no idea you could splice video together with cat ... obviously it doesn't work with all formats, this is mjpeg or something from the camera. [18:49] * MarkDude runs from the holy war [18:49] I edited an audio file in emacs once! [18:49] akk: was it still audible at the end? [18:49] Just to cut off a bunch of silence at the end. The resulting file gave errors but sounded fine. [18:49] wow, nice [18:50] * MarkDude edited a few of the Code Camp videos on my Terra HD, I had to do it without video preview, only audio [18:50] cat-ing the files sometimes works, sometimes it can mess up poorly written decoders though [18:54] kdub: how far do you live from SF? [18:54] 20 miles north of mexico [18:54] ha [18:55] San Diego, hmm. [18:55] Ok thats a bit far :D [18:55] that would make nhaines closer than you [18:55] lol [18:55] i live in valolejo may be 30 mins fro sf [18:55] ok supposed to be vallejo [18:55] jamie, I like the 1st way better [18:56] You should make it to this then jamie [18:57] ok i just walked into this conversation. what are we talking about again [18:58] the community leadership summit in daly city on saturday http://clswest2011.eventbrite.com/ [18:59] what is it and when? [18:59] all the details are in that link [19:00] thanks i just found it [19:01] Lots of great people there [19:01] I met some new friends at the last one [19:01] As well as gaining some great contacts [19:02] This year we should have even more Linux folks. We should have a nice critical mass [19:02] without sounding too lame ill see if my wife will let me go lol [19:02] * MarkDude is not judging :) [19:03] happiness on the homefront is very important [19:03] Catered dinner after it also - we will have some folks to help in a Tea Ceremony also [19:04] Middle east food at night- Indian for the day [19:04] definitely. whenever i try to go to a tech event i always get that look [19:05] this event has one of the most diverse crowds also [19:05] cool cross section of folks [19:06] OSCON # 1, CLSwest #2, other conferences after that, imho [20:16] * MarkDude just found out that 2 of his talks are approved for Scale [20:26] MarkDude: So, there are no pre-arranged speakers for the "unconference" ? [20:26] FOSS Mentoring and why and how we should help new users- it is an UpSCALE talk. [20:26] jdeslip, no [20:26] congrats MarkDude [20:27] Kaylia and folks Like Sudha Jamthe are going to do sessions there [20:27] You get choices [20:27] pleia2, Ty [20:27] I am hella stoked [20:27] mjoseph asked why I am not speaking [20:27] "because I'm shy and didn't submit a talk" [20:27] :D [20:28] * MarkDude used you as primary source for my responsibilities in FOSS talk [20:28] So you are, just by proxy ;) [20:28] that works [20:28] http://ostatic.com/blog/businesses-need-clear-policies-for-foss-contributions [20:28] I should actually do another talk sometime, practice is they key and all [20:29] Hi, my name is Lyz, and I have good smart stuff written all over the internets :D [20:29] pleia2, it is the key for sure [20:29] the closer to your passion the easier it will be with practice [20:29] yeah [20:31] The 2nd talk is My If Tux the Penguin offered you Kool Aid- would you drink it talk - that will be during the day. The FOSS talk is the Upscale thing. 5 minutes- 20 slides- like Ignite talks [21:12] upscale? [21:13] tOn Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Courtney Draper wrote: [21:13] Sorry we have different views on they way employees should be handled......I know how much you care for me and my best interest. Thank you again for giving me a great reference and I will put your name down for future references. [21:13] Best of Luck to ZaReason [21:13] -Courtney [21:13] On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Cathy Malmrose wrote: [21:13] On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Courtney Draper wrote: [21:13] On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Cathy Malmrose wrote: [21:13] Courtney, [21:13] One last note to make sure you understand that the letting go was done in an extremely gentle and professional manner all things considered. I had a stack of incident reports documenting where actual money was leaking due to mistakes, but the breaking point came right at Christmas. [21:13] There were a lot of problems going on towards the end and it was too bad that E-mail was our only form of communication. [21:13] [21:13] In Nov, NATO had approached us, seeing if they could do long-term contracting for hardware and support through us. In early Dec we sent them a laptop, you shipped it but shipped it as a Letter. It's still in customs in Norway. (You trained for USPS shipping in Feb last year -- it wasn't a new process.) We have even considered flying to Norway to get it out of customs and to the NATO officials, but it's an insane expense and the damag [21:13] e is done. [21:13] This sounds a little confusing but no need for explaining now.... [21:13] I understand that you were upset about "how it was handled" but please know that you were well protected from 95% of the pain that was behind it. [21:13] seemed like a mispaste [21:14] yeah [21:14] not something that should be on the channel (even though I confess I'm now very curious :) [21:16] ... [21:16] yeah, it was a bad mistake [21:17] Mark said he leaned on his mouse [21:27] heh. I've had irssi's paste-protection save me more than once ;P [21:30] xchat seems perfectly happy with pasting big stuff in, but then it won't allow copying from one tab and pasting into another. So weird. [21:30] * jdeslip goes to learn about past protection [21:31] Protection from the past sounds quite useful, jdeslip! [21:32] It's enabled by default (and disabled by one or two scripts, actually, which caused me to flood the heck out of #ubuntu-offtopic once) [21:32] "21:31:47 -!- Irssi: Pasting 26 lines to ##rww. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel." [21:32] Nice! [21:33] yeah, irssi's paste protection rocks :) [21:33] Is there a minimum # of lines? I was able to just paste 3 lines in another channel. [21:34] 5 is the default. see /set paste_verify_line_count [21:38] Poor Mark [21:39] I expected him to rejoin. [21:40] Ditto. [21:58] ruhroh, bad news bears [22:17] it seems to me that a moderately train should be available from san diego to sanfran, guess not [22:19] not yet [22:20] No Amtrack? [22:23] the socal and norcal routes are disjoint, go figure [22:27] heh. priced it out for fun. it's a 14 hour bus + train ride for ~$140 rt. about the same price to fly [22:28] Trains are usually more expensive than flying, but the bus probably brings it back down. [22:28] all in all it means no CLS :P [22:28] I think it might be possible to train via Sacramento ... I'm pretty sure there's a central valley Amtrack route (or at least used to be). [22:28] down to bakersfield [22:29] Then not past there? [22:29] not on the map i saw [22:29] yeah there's a train-bus-train solution like that [22:29] the amtrak web site is funny in its awfulness [22:29] it shows you every possible trip, even the ridiculous ones :) [22:30] i once looked at detroit to grandrapids (4h by car) was a 12 hour ordeal through chicago [22:31] a $50 north/south california link would be phenomenal [22:31] yep, I see what you mean. No other routes go to bakersfield. [22:31] the high speed rail would do that… maybe not for $50 though [22:31] I agree, would love to take a train to burbank sometimes rather than driving. [22:32] no, if it ever gets built it'll be expensive, I'll bet [22:32] http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/trip_planner.aspx [22:32] considering regular amtrack is already usually more expensive than flying, at least for long trips [22:33] jtatum: is that what might get built? that would be pretty great [22:33] Looks like they're spending all their money on flash developers instead of just publishing a static map and moving on to building the silly thing. :) [22:34] (no non-flash map that I can find) [22:37] here's hoping that happens eventually though, high speed rail is great [22:37] Martinez to LA is ridiculous. My friend used to do it. [22:37] involves a bus and I think costs more than Southwest Airlines. [23:31] ooooh, mac launched an app store for OSX [23:31] that's why I keep getting the "when will ubuntu have an app store" question [23:31] So, when will ubuntu have an app store? :) [23:32] * akk is crossing fingers for all the various conflicting plans to make it easier to get software into ubuntu [23:33] I don't want software to be easier to get into Ubuntu. The present difficulty is quality assurance :( [23:33] Is it? [23:34] Considering the quality of PPA packaging I've seen, yes. [23:34] the software center is an app store [23:36] There's been a lot of discussion for how developers/companies could make their apps easily accessible to ubuntu users without going through the maintainer process. [23:44] debian package manage: the original app store