[01:01] <itnet7> anyone around for the meeting tonight? Only really one topic I'd like to bring up
[01:02] <mxwil_> Good evening
[01:02] <itnet7> Hey there mxwil_ !
[01:02] <itnet7> Well, I am at training for Work stuff this week so I have been pretty scarce lately
[01:03] <itnet7> but I guess I will send and e-mail to the Mailing list, with an updated schedule for the meeting and to start a discussion on the Agenda item that I had added!
[01:03] <itnet7> s/meeting/meetings/
[01:05] <itnet7> Okay, Well that's what I will do... Talk with you soon! bbl
[01:06] <mxwil_> you leaving now
[01:06] <mxwil_> ?
[18:07] <PowerTux> hi all anyone has notebook Dell Vostro 3500 with NVidia GT218 GeForce 310M card ? it works ?
[18:13] <mhall119> PowerTux: try asking in #ubuntu (I know it gets crazy busy in there)
[18:13] <mhall119> or in #ubuntu-beginners-chat
[18:15] <PowerTux> thanks
[18:19] <danstoner> PowerTux: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201004-5574/
[18:20]  * danstoner wonders why those hardware compat entries do not include detailed reports (like lspci output).
[18:20] <PowerTux> danstoner: sorry, i mean this card  NVidia GT218 GeForce 310M
[18:21] <PowerTux> i notice that this driver doesnt exist in nvidia drivers GT 218
[18:25] <maxolasersquad> PowerTux: Do you have the laptop already, or are you contemplating getting it?
[18:26] <PowerTux> maxolasersquad:  I have this one, and try to install this card...
[18:27] <RoAkSoAx> .win 3
[18:27] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[18:27] <maxolasersquad> If you go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, does it show you the NVidia driver ready to install?
[18:35] <PowerTux> maxolasersquad : it doesnt has this option Hardware Drivers 
[18:36] <maxolasersquad> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:36] <PowerTux> maxolasersquad: 10.10
[18:36] <PowerTux> 64 bits
[18:38] <maxolasersquad> Try runnong the following from a command-line: jockey-gtk
[18:40] <PowerTux> maxolasersquad it shows Additional Drivers window 
[18:41] <PowerTux> it exist after lspci
[18:42] <PowerTux> i notice that 310 M driver that i´ve installed dont find this card
[18:43] <PowerTux> and on xorg.0.log shows the drivers supported
[18:43] <PowerTux> and the GT 218 doenst exists
[18:43] <PowerTux> i found in nvidia drivers site and it doesnt exists there
[18:44] <PowerTux> there is a 310 M but not gt 218
[18:44] <PowerTux> i´ve download and install this 310 M
[18:45] <PowerTux> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.29.run
[18:46] <PowerTux> Im thinking that the correct driver doesnt exists
[18:46] <PowerTux> yet
[18:46] <maxolasersquad> jockey-gtk should be able to find whatever drivers are available for your card.
[18:49] <PowerTux> yep but shows Additional Drivers windows because this notebook has 2 proprietary drivers, Broadcom (Wireless) and Nvidia
[18:51] <PowerTux> anyone has NVidia GT218 GeForce 310M working properly on 10.10 64 bits ?
[18:53] <andrew> Greetings from the north, how's it feel to be the only state without snow on the ground?
[19:02] <maxolasersquad> PowerTux: You should be able to select the Nvidia from jockey-gtk and install the appropriate Nvidia driver for your card.
[19:02] <maxolasersquad> andrew: It feels great!
[19:02] <andrew> maxolasersquad: I hear that despite the snow, it's still cold down there.
[19:03] <PowerTux> maxolasersquad: it has nvidia there, i´ve installed and the problem was the same ! so i uninstalled nvidia from that
[19:04] <PowerTux> and downloaded from the site
[19:04] <maxolasersquad> PowerTux: What problem do you have?
[19:08] <PowerTux> maxolasersquad: after reboot it goes to shell and the error is (EE) device doesnt exists
[19:09] <PowerTux> in xorg.0.log
[19:10] <maxolasersquad> Some Googling seems to suggest that the card isn't supported under Linux by NVidia yet.
[19:11] <maxolasersquad> You may want to try posting the details of your problem at ubuntuforums.org
[19:11] <PowerTux> yep i´ll do that, thanks do much
[19:25] <maxolasersquad> Does Intel only make graphics chips that are integrated on mobos?
[19:28]  * MichelleQ consults wikipedia
[19:29] <MichelleQ> maxolasersquad: if wikipedia is to be believed (which is sometimes questionable) - yes.
[19:30] <maxolasersquad> :(
[19:30] <MichelleQ> :-/ but I's not an expert
[19:31] <MichelleQ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA
[19:32] <maxolasersquad> I wonder what the best "free" card is for a desktop.
[19:32] <MichelleQ> as in, stand-alone?
[19:33] <MichelleQ> non-incorporated?
[19:35] <MichelleQ> and I'm going to make the gross assumption that you want it to be ubuntu-compatable, yes?
[19:36] <MichelleQ> wow these articles I'm finding are the sucksville.  
[19:39] <maxolasersquad> Free as in free drivers.
[19:39] <MichelleQ> most recent article I can find:  http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/38571.aspx
[19:39] <maxolasersquad> But still fully supported.
[19:41] <MichelleQ> yeah, I dunno.  :-/
[19:41] <MichelleQ> then again, I'm probably setting off looking for the wrong bits.  
[19:42] <maxolasersquad> That article confirms what I feared to be the case.
[19:43] <MichelleQ> Sorry.  :-/
[19:43] <MichelleQ> I was finding a number of forums/articles/etc, all published in 2002-2005.  Totally not helpful.
[19:49] <maxolasersquad> I think that is the story.  You can either buy a mobo with an integrated Intel chip, or use the FOSS drivers available for NVida or ATI.
[19:50] <MichelleQ> seems to be the deal, yeah
[20:01] <mhall119> awesome google rube goldberg video: http://www.fastcompany.com/1715913/syyn-labs-google-science-fair-ruth-goldberg-machine
[20:01] <mhall119> featuring Ubuntu at one point
[21:37] <rmcbride> re video cards, I've typically used Nvidia with the Nvidia drivers. My main dev box is a laptop with a GTS 360M. I have had far less problems with it in the course of distro testing than the various Intel GMA devices on my netbooks/old laptop.  
[21:39] <rmcbride> even the best Intel GMA card I've used is totally useless at any of the decent OpenGL games that I've tried... If I was a driver or kernel developer I'd stick to the FOSS drivers and try to improve them, but... there's really nothing I can do and I consider myself an end user for those kinds of devices.
[21:45] <mhall119> I don't think that's a linux thing
[21:45] <mhall119> from what I hear from windows folks, intel cards are useless for 3d games there too
[21:58] <rmcbride> They're not SUPPOSED to be useless, but for those and things like compiz + multiple monitors I've had horrible luck 
[21:59] <rmcbride> though they do seem to be working OK with the compiz based Unity for 11.04. I just don't have secondary monitors on those laptops
[21:59] <mhall119> my brand new work computer scores 3.9 on the windows metric, because of the intel card
[21:59] <rmcbride> ouch
[21:59] <mhall119> 8 cores, 8GB ram
[21:59] <mhall119> only 3.9
[21:59] <mhall119> so I have a 2-core, 4GB VirtualBox image running Ubuntu
[22:00] <mhall119> I use that for everything but Outlook
[22:00] <rmcbride> NIce. back when I was at SYMC I ran Ubuntu and Windows inside seperate sessions under VMWare Fusion on a macbook pro
[22:00] <rmcbride> sadly, for some reason they didn't want me taking that laptop with me when I left