[01:44] <enbloc> does anyone have any CURRENT resources for getting rhythmbox->gstreamer->jack? I have mp3 support, can convert, ardour will play through jack. but rhythmbox is giving me 'Failed to link GStreamer pipeline."
[01:45] <holstein> enbloc: o/
[01:45] <holstein> 10.10?
[01:45] <holstein> 10.04?
[01:45] <enbloc> 10.10
[01:45] <holstein> you can use pulse to jack
[01:46] <holstein> see if you have pulse-jack installed
[01:46] <enbloc> I do
[01:46] <holstein> or in the repos if not
[01:46] <holstein> you should just be able to run that
[01:46] <enbloc> thanks - I'll google that
[01:46] <holstein> and pipe RB via pulse-jack to JACK
[01:46] <holstein> after JACK is running
[01:46] <holstein> just open a termina
[01:46] <holstein> l
[01:46] <holstein> and start pulse-jack
[01:47] <holstein> that *should* be it
[01:47] <enbloc> I take it I need to undo the audiosink stuff?
[01:48] <holstein> not sure
[01:48] <holstein> not familiat
[01:48] <holstein> not familiar*
[01:48] <holstein> i did try pulse-jack
[01:48] <holstein> and thats all i had to do
[18:26] <WaltherFI> Hello @ all
[18:26] <holstein> WaltherFI: o/
[18:27] <WaltherFI> Why are the pop-up messages on ubuntustudio so ugly compared to the notify system on regular ubuntu install?
[18:27] <WaltherFI> like, increasing/decreasing/muting volume, new mail notifications, etc
[18:27] <holstein> i suppose 'ugly' is a matter of opinion
[18:27] <holstein> but you can theme as you please
[18:27] <holstein> just like the normal install
[18:28] <WaltherFI> well of course, let me rephrase 'old-school'
[18:31] <WaltherFI> like, have you seen the ubuntu 10.10 (iirc also on .04) notify system?
[18:32] <WaltherFI> smooth, transparent grey rounded boxes
[18:32] <holstein> you can install vanilla
[18:32] <WaltherFI> compared to the gray-yellow bubble notifications
[18:32] <holstein> and get whatever ubuntustudio metapackages you want
[18:32] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio
[18:32] <holstein> or whatever
[18:32] <WaltherFI> er, i want to have the realtime kernel and stuff
[18:32] <holstein> you dont have to install the themes
[18:32] <WaltherFI> memlocking
[18:32] <holstein> right
[18:33] <holstein> you can install whatever kernel you want
[18:33] <holstein> OR, just theme ubuntustudio however you like
[18:33] <WaltherFI> hm. i don't really think it is only about themes
[18:34] <holstein> the ubuntu-desktop should have all the default theme-ing
[18:34] <holstein> WaltherFI: try installing whatever theme you want
[18:34] <holstein> applying it
[18:34] <holstein> and let us know ;)
[18:35] <WaltherFI> hm, where can i get the default ubuntu theme (the individual package for GTK theme)
[18:35] <holstein> ubuntu-desktop should contain all of what you are looking for
[18:36] <holstein> you can read about that package in synaptic
[18:36] <holstein> or sudo apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop
[18:36] <WaltherFI> ...which is 229MB in weight and probably contains lots of stuff i wouldn't like to have
[18:36] <holstein> probably
[18:36] <holstein> thats one reason why ubuntustudio has the 'ugly' lighter one
[18:37] <holstein> that will have the network manager
[18:37] <holstein> i think it might be better to get a clear idea of what you want the desktop to look like
[18:38] <holstein> if you want the ambience or dust or whatever
[18:38] <WaltherFI> ambiance
[18:38] <holstein> you should be able to find all of those packages in synaptic
[18:38] <WaltherFI> but like i said, i think there could be a different version of the notify system in general (?)
[18:39] <holstein> there are things left out
[18:39] <WaltherFI> as things are reported differently; big icons in the middle of the screen for volume changes etc
[18:39] <WaltherFI> so do you know what is the package of the notify system?
[18:40] <holstein> are you running compiz?
[18:40] <WaltherFI> yep
[18:40] <WaltherFI> installed extras too
[18:40] <holstein> i think you want the package light-themes
[18:41] <holstein> to get ambiance
[18:41] <WaltherFI> installed
[18:41] <WaltherFI> did not affect the notify pop-ups
[18:41] <holstein> probably have to look around for the icons you want
[18:41] <holstein> you can also check in #ubuntu
[18:41] <holstein> or wheverever
[18:41] <holstein> as theme-ing gnome is not necessarily studio specific
[18:41] <holstein> let me see about notifications...
[18:42] <WaltherFI> yep, it doesn't seem to be about gnome or theming, i think it has something to do with the actual notification service
[18:43] <holstein> i see notify-osd
[18:43] <holstein> not sure what you mean
[18:43] <holstein> maybe you can take a screenshot
[18:43] <holstein> for imagebin
[18:43] <holstein> i have both vanilla ubuntu and ubuntustudio
[18:43] <holstein> and the pop-ups are as expected
[18:44] <holstein> for volume changes or whatever
[18:47] <holstein> WaltherFI: maybe try taking on one thing at a time
[18:47] <holstein> get the GTK theme you want
[18:47] <WaltherFI> got it
[18:47] <holstein> ambiance or whatever
[18:47] <holstein> then the icons
[18:47] <WaltherFI> got it
[18:47] <WaltherFI> it's not about that
[18:47] <holstein> then whatever is going on with notifications
[18:47] <holstein> is this 10.04?
[18:49] <WaltherFI> 10.10
[18:49] <WaltherFI> www.taikuriveeti.fi/private/notification.png
[18:51] <holstein> WaltherFI: i would go drop that in a more populated irc channel
[18:51] <holstein> im not sure what is kicking that out
[18:51] <holstein> are you talking about the little wrench?
[18:52] <WaltherFI> the whole yellow-black thing
[18:52] <WaltherFI> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Bubble%20appearance%20and%20layout
[18:54] <holstein> WaltherFI: does it go transparent when you hover?
[18:55] <WaltherFI> some guy at #ubuntu told me the problem
[18:55] <WaltherFI> 20:53 < xangua> WaltherFI: it's using gnome notification , you want notify-osd
[18:55] <holstein> cool
[18:55] <holstein> and you might want to see why we are not using that
[18:55] <WaltherFI> but... why the heck is ubuntustudio not using notify-osd as default?
[18:55] <holstein> im not sure
[18:56] <holstein> but, we dont use the normal network tool
[18:56] <holstein> and other little things here and there
[18:56] <holstein> would i worry about it?
[18:56] <holstein> probably not
[18:56] <holstein> i would install notify-osd
[18:56] <holstein> if i wanted it to look a certain way
[18:56] <WaltherFI> sudo apt-get inst- wait, wrong terminal
[18:57] <holstein> but, i probably would want to find out why
[18:57] <holstein> might be that notify-osd does too much in the background?
[18:58] <holstein> some of these changes are carried over from when computers were slower
[18:58] <holstein> WaltherFI: what RT kerner are you using with 10.10 ?
[18:58] <WaltherFI> hm, this is interesting, if i were ubuntu developer i would presume studio users have more power than vanilla users
[18:59] <holstein> kernel*
[18:59] <holstein> abogani 's ?
[18:59] <WaltherFI> ow can't remember
[18:59] <holstein> or did you compile your own?
[18:59] <holstein> uname -a
[18:59] <holstein> in a terminal
[19:00] <WaltherFI> what the hell
[19:00] <WaltherFI> ...for some reason i have GENERIC running
[19:00] <WaltherFI> i should have the RT
[19:00] <holstein> it comes with gerneric
[19:00] <holstein> thats where we are heading
[19:00] <holstein> generic will have RT prio
[19:01] <WaltherFI> hm
[19:01] <WaltherFI> well that suits me fine
[19:01] <holstein> 10.04 has the RT kernel from 9.11 in the repos
[19:01] <holstein> 9.10*
[19:01] <WaltherFI> anyway, installing notify-osd fixed this
[19:01] <holstein> cool
[19:01] <WaltherFI> do you have launchpad account?
[19:01] <holstein> yup
[19:01] <WaltherFI> this should be reported as bug
[19:02] <WaltherFI> easiest way to make it the default
[19:02] <holstein> yeah?
[19:02] <holstein> wishlist maybe
[19:02] <holstein> thats what ive been doing
[19:02] <holstein> its not a bug
[19:02] <WaltherFI> i can't think of good reasons why there is differen notification system on ubuntu and -studio
[19:02] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~mikeh789
[19:02] <holstein> WaltherFI: performance
[19:03] <holstein> anyways, i usually just install the vanilla versions these days
[19:03] <holstein> and add what i want
[19:03] <WaltherFI> hm
[19:03] <holstein> i mean, you can file wishlist bugs
[19:03] <holstein> about notify-osd
[19:03] <holstein> and the network manager too
[19:04] <holstein> i just did a few on not having a live CD
[19:04] <holstein> and some others...
[19:05] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~mikeh789
[19:05] <holstein> there they are, if you want to add yourself to them