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jjesseDarkwingDuck you around these days?02:25
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I hope you don't want bread during your stay in Texas: http://i.imgur.com/tFFoN.jpg02:27
JontheEchidnathose southerners act like they've never seen snow. (and they probably haven't)02:28
jjesseits funny have co-worker in atlanta and they have same problem02:28
jjesseno milk either02:28
jjesseDarkwingDuck just curious if you have had a chance to work any on kubuntu-docs02:29
markeyphononlogger: Riddell: please please push the libpulse fix to Maverick backports08:16
markeyas far as I know, it's a one-liner08:16
markeyand Amark 2.4 release is very soon. currently it crashes on exit every single time08:16
markeyAmarok*08:16
markeyit's super annoying08:17
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debfxJontheEchidna: kde-config-touchpad should stay in kubuntu-meta10:17
debfxdebian uses that package name for synaptiks10:18
smarterhey12:07
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phononloggermarkey: I handed it to a minion12:53
phononloggerno clue what he is doing with it12:53
markeyphononlogger: I guess what he doing is: FAIL12:54
markeycould that be it?12:54
shadeslayerhmm12:54
markeymaybe a soft pat (or hit) on the head might help? :)12:54
alleelast daily ISO (12-jan) can't install kubuntu.  Crash after leaving page that ask for username, password.  Known problem or should I collect debug data?12:54
phononloggerif he were here...12:54
markeycause this is major important12:54
markeyand easy to do12:54
shadeslayerapparently ... xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is all sorts of b0rked12:54
phononloggermarkey: also you do not write about m12:55
phononloggere12:55
* phononlogger shall refuse talking with markey for a while12:55
markeywut12:57
markeywhy do I not write about you?12:57
markeyI write about you constantly12:57
phononloggerin ze public of a blog!12:57
markeyah12:57
shadeslayerIRC doesnt count12:58
shadeslayer:P12:58
markeyphononlogger: well, it's too early to tell what your career will be. CS student is cool, and the Kubuntu and Phonon stuff too12:58
phononloggerwould be to hard to start off with "while apachelogger, the love of my heart, is waging ware against the evil alliance of KIO..."12:58
markeybut you might and up as minion of Canonical12:58
markeynot sure that would be blog worthy ;)12:58
shadeslayeressentially 12:58
markeys/and/end12:58
phononloggerat least there people would admit when they are secretly in lovez with me12:59
shadeslayeranything containing the terms "phononlogger" are not worthy of markey's blog12:59
shadeslayer:P12:59
phononloggerlike jr12:59
markeyJRT12:59
markeyphononlogger: become the Jim Beam of KDE12:59
markeyor so12:59
markeybecome French!12:59
phononlogger:O12:59
markeythat could be blog worthy12:59
phononloggersvn revert markey12:59
phononloggerhe has gone mad12:59
phononloggeroh dear12:59
* phononlogger also svn reverts all the shit he did yesterday13:00
markeySVN is dead, Nietzsche said that!13:00
phononloggerI single handedly threaded 5 or so classes at 4am :D :D :D13:00
phononloggerjust to see if that works13:00
* phononlogger is quite wicked13:00
phononloggerbut war is doin that to one13:00
shadeslayeromg13:01
shadeslayermarkey: you have a desire!13:01
* shadeslayer hugs markey13:01
shadeslayermarkey: dude ... im getting a spare micro sd card tomorrow ... and then ill be working over the weekend to get plasma mobile running on the desire ... i haz a ubuntu chroot for nexus one i can use :D13:03
shadeslayerso boot ubuntu chroot -> install kubuntu-mobile -> launch plasma mobile13:03
shadeslayerjust need to make sure the chroot works13:04
markeyyeah I have Desire, but not much Desire to run Plasma on it :p13:05
markeyI'd rather have it not crashing13:05
markeyhow would that work anyway, Plasma on Dalvik?13:06
shadeslayermarkey: your not running CM?13:06
markeyno, I am planning to run GingerVillain13:06
shadeslayermarkey: simply booting a chroot ontop of the linux kernel13:06
markeyproblem is: I have a rather new phone, and I have already rooted and cracked it13:06
shadeslayerthey have a ubuntu chroot for the nexus one13:06
markeybut!13:06
markeynot I learned, it needs yet another crack13:07
markeyHTC added another security check13:07
markeybeen on it for weeks, this is getting damn complicated13:07
shadeslayermarkey: Desire Z?13:07
markeys/not/now13:07
markeyno, plain Desire, but they got some updates too13:07
shadeslayeri just used unrevoked ... worked like a charm13:07
markeyPVT413:07
markeylatest revision13:07
markeyyes13:07
markeyme too13:07
markeybut it has other security checks now13:07
markey2 more13:07
shadeslayerhmm13:07
shadeslayerwell i have CM ...13:08
shadeslayergot rid of that sense shit13:08
markeyyes, so you have an older revision13:08
markeygot it?13:08
shadeslayeryeah ...13:08
shadeslayeressentially ... you still have the HTC ROM13:09
markeyyou cannot install anything on it without cracking both checks13:09
markeyimpossible13:09
shadeslayerim sure someone at XDA will come up with something13:09
markeyI have it in S-OFF mode now, thanks to AlphaRev 1.813:09
markeybut that's not enough13:09
shadeslayerah13:09
* shadeslayer is scared to do S-OFF13:09
shadeslayerno reason to do it as wel13:10
shadeslayer*well13:10
markeywell, I have no other options. and AlphaRev worked fine here13:10
markeyyep13:10
shadeslayerim just waiting for the Gingerbread ROM from CM13:11
markeyshould arrive in a few weeks13:13
markeybut!13:13
markeyGingerVillain is more or less CM13:13
markeythey are working together13:13
shadeslayernever heard of GV13:13
shadeslayerlooking now13:14
shadeslayermarkey: GV looks like its flying on the desire13:24
shadeslayerif only they would store my SMS's on the SD card13:25
shadeslayer*then* id be happy and content13:25
markeyhm13:26
markeyyeah13:26
markeyhmm13:26
markeywait13:26
markeyI hardly use SMS13:26
markeyit's what teenagers use13:26
shadeslayerwell ... im just out of my teens ... still *heavily* use SMS's tho13:29
shadeslayermarkey: one thing i do like about the HTC Software.... the keyboard13:31
shadeslayerlight years ahead of the android one13:31
shadeslayerRiddell: around?13:37
markeyshadeslayer: I hate the virtual keyboard, I mistype constantly13:51
markeyespecially in vertical mode13:51
markeyGingerbread is said to have a better one13:52
markeyor use Swype13:52
shadeslayeryeah ... but id still like to stick to the HTC keyboard13:52
shadeslayerit suits me nicely13:52
jussiHrm, is there any way we can modify klipper to use the plasma theme instead of the system app theme? 15:28
Riddellmorning shadeslayer 15:31
Tm_Tjussi: by plasmafying it (as in, making that bit happening in plasma instead of in app called "klipper")15:36
shadeslayerRiddell: want to do a KDE packaging dexter's lab?15:36
shadeslayeror did you already submit that?15:36
* shadeslayer charted out some ideas for conf.kde.in during college15:36
shadeslayerKDE packging Dexters lab and project neon dexters lab15:37
shadeslayer*packaging15:37
Riddellshadeslayer: yes I submitted one for .deb packaging15:40
RiddellI still have no idea what dexters means15:40
Riddellpresumably some bit of Indian lingo15:41
Riddellso, packaging, kdepim, amarok and kdevelop x 2 outstanding15:41
Riddellkdepim was groo who's disappeared15:42
Riddellyofel was doing kdevelop unstable, how's that doing yofel_ ?15:42
Riddellamarok I don't remember15:42
agateauRiddell: appmenu-qt 0.1.1 is out. It only fixes the FTBFS, so it's not really important to package it.15:47
Riddellthanks agateau 15:47
Riddellagateau: should this be announced to other distro packagers?15:47
agateauRiddell: it still needs the Qt patch so I don't know if other distro will take it15:48
shadeslayerRiddell: ok ... dexter's is basically a 2 hour long lab session ...15:51
shadeslayerbased on "Dexter's Lab"15:51
shadeslayerkubotu: google Dexter's Lab15:51
kubotuResults for Dexter's Lab: 1. Dexter's Laboratory | Free Games and Videos | Cartoon Network: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/dexter/index.html | 2. Dexter's Laboratory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter's_Laboratory | 3. Dexter's Laboratory (TV Series 1996–2003) - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115157/15:51
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^15:51
shadeslayerinteresting15:51
shadeslayerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter's_Laboratory << 15:52
shadeslayerkubotu is broken15:52
shadeslayerill submit a Project Neon DL then15:52
RiddellI'll come to that one :)15:53
shadeslayerlemme pastebin a few ideas .. hold on15:54
DarkwingDuckHey guys!15:55
jjessehe lives15:55
DarkwingDuckI *finally* have a working computer back15:56
DarkwingDuckhey jjesse 15:56
DarkwingDuckYes, I live and I am cramming Docs from today till sunday15:56
jjessewwahoo15:57
DarkwingDuck:)15:57
DarkwingDuckHow is everyone in KDE land?15:57
jjessekicking ass and taking name15:59
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/2413/94935125/15:59
DarkwingDuckAwesome.16:00
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Who do I talk to in the KDE world to see who is putting together a booth for SCaLE in Los Angeles16:01
RiddellDarkwingDuck: people on US west coast at a guess16:02
jjesseDarkwingDuck i expect to see lots of bzr commit messages then :)16:03
Riddellin theory kde-promo list is used for events but it doesn't work very well since they're so locale specific16:03
RiddellDarkwingDuck: try blauzahl16:03
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Roger16:04
DarkwingDuckRiddell: I'm going to be there on a Ubuntu Front however, I would love to corrdenate my time a bit. :)16:04
DarkwingDuckjjesse: Yuppers! :)16:05
Riddelldebfx, neversfelde: who ended up doing amarok if anyone?16:06
debfxRiddell: I did, packaging is in bzr but I forgot to upload it16:08
Riddelldebfx: great16:09
Riddelldebfx: did you do maverick backport?16:09
DarkwingDuckjjesse: are you going to be around tonight?16:09
debfxRiddell: the package works fine on maverick without changes16:10
debfxI'm uploading it to ninjas now16:11
Riddelluploading it to ninjas isn't ideal, that has 4.6 beta in it but it'll go into backports at release which doesn't16:16
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Quintasan\o16:17
Riddelldebfx: will you be around on saturday european evening to do the amarok release?16:17
RiddellI'll be flying over the atlantic at the time16:17
Riddellmorning Quintasan 16:18
debfxRiddell: yes, I can copy the package to the backports ppa when it's released16:20
QuintasanRiddell: You're going to this conf.kde.in thingy?16:20
Riddelldebfx: well as I say it can't be copied, it'll need to be reuploaded16:21
Riddellunless we clear out kubuntu-ninjas now16:21
RiddellQuintasan: I hope to yes16:21
Riddelldebfx: and uploaded to natty and announced on website16:22
debfxRiddell: source copy should be fine, no?16:22
Riddelldebfx: yes source copy is fine16:22
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debfxRiddell: I don't have access to the website16:24
Riddelldebfx: we can fix that :)16:24
Riddellvoila16:25
debfxand I can't upload it to the main archive16:25
Riddelldebfx: if you give me a package, I'll sign the .dsc then you can upload when Nightrose says so16:27
afiestas__have you discussed about use oxygen-gtk instead of QtCurve? 16:28
Riddellafiestas__: yes, JontheEchidna has been doing that and recently set it to green on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo so in theory it's all done16:28
afiestas__wow, nice :p16:29
* afiestas__ just got a thought from the sky, mozilla is doing Qt again because of Meego :D16:31
Riddellafiestas__: that'll be only the 10th port of mozilla to Qt? :)16:32
Riddellphononlogger: you want me to upload this vlc pulse patch to maverick?16:32
Riddellphononlogger: does it have a bug report?16:32
afiestas__http://paste.kde.org/2423/ <-- xD16:32
Quintasanafiestas__: ITS TRUE!!!111!!11shiftone16:34
shadeslayerQuintasan: lol .. i have android 2.316:35
Quintasanshadeslayer: lol and I have a locked bootloader16:35
shadeslayerQuintasan: as ScottK would say .... You have a poor choice of hardware 16:35
Quintasans/poor/no/16:35
kubotuQuintasan: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"16:35
Quintasanwtf16:36
Quintasans/you/me16:36
Quintasanstupid kubotu16:36
Riddellmarkey: what's the pulse patch you want applied?16:38
Riddellis that the vlc one?16:39
shadeslayerkdebindings time!16:39
Riddellshadeslayer: in neon?16:39
shadeslayerRiddell: yes16:39
shadeslayerill do one binding everyday from today16:39
Riddellwell we still need new sip for python do we not16:39
markeyRiddell: phononlogger would know, it's some bug in libpulse, crashes on exit in combination with Phonon-VLC16:39
RiddellQuintasan: did you get stuck with that?16:39
markeynot sure what other side effects it has16:39
* shadeslayer looks at Quintasan16:39
shadeslayernow where did i put that dep graph16:40
Riddellmarkey: ok sounds like this one http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/0101-pulse-Disable-xlib-in-pulse.-libpulse-now-uses-xcb-o.patch16:40
shadeslayerRiddell: i also managed to find a spare microsd card so i can work on plasma-mobile over the weekend16:40
QuintasanRiddell: somehow, I was supposed to work on it today but my chemistry teacher suddenly decided to show up after she was absent for like 4 months16:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: that excuse is awesome :P16:40
QuintasanAnd she claims I have one grade and it's the end of the semester :/16:41
markeyRiddell: that could be it. but I'm not fully sure, better to wait for phononlogger16:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: No, seriously16:41
shadeslayerQuintasan: right ;)16:41
shadeslayerjk :P16:41
markeyRiddell: likely it's the right patch, I think16:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: I will post pics of my grades from chemistry if u want :P16:41
shadeslayerQuintasan: lol16:41
QuintasanThere is only one B there and she is supposed to grade me for the whole semester of work16:42
shadeslayeromg16:42
shadeslayerCM 716:42
Quintasanbasing on grades :D16:42
shadeslayerfor my Desire16:42
shadeslayer:O16:42
shadeslayerhow did i ignore that16:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: ask her to put B's everywhere 16:42
shadeslayeror if she's extra nice ... A's16:43
Quintasanshadeslayer: It's not only me :/16:43
Quintasanshadeslayer: few people don't any grades at all :DDD16:43
shadeslayer^_^16:43
Quintasanlol they have two tests tomorrow16:43
shadeslayerQuintasan: tests suck16:44
shadeslayerthey are overrated16:44
Quintasanwhile I have a short one and I have to work on a topic and she will ask me some questions16:44
shadeslayerdont prove anything16:44
shadeslayerQuintasan: oh ill show you something16:44
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png << see that16:45
shadeslayerthats a program for a adder in VHDL16:45
Quintasanshadeslayer: the teach was absent from October I think :O16:45
shadeslayernow .. i have to make a pacman game in that same language16:45
shadeslayerQuintasan: i bet phononlogger kidnapped her16:45
shadeslayerphononlogger: ill be mad like after this semester16:45
debfxRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc16:45
shadeslayer*mad like you after16:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: seen that link?16:46
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shadeslayerVHDL <316:46
yofelo/16:46
shadeslayeryofel: oh hai16:47
yofelRiddell: kdevelop is waiting for me to properly finish okteta stuff, otherwise finished16:47
* shadeslayer starts on kimono16:47
yofelyou're fast..16:48
shadeslayeryofel: yeah ...i originally started on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png16:48
shadeslayerthen after 3 hours16:48
shadeslayeri was at line 516:48
yofelmake yourself some coffee, put in a dose of apachelogger and you should be fine16:49
shadeslayeryofel: tried and failed16:50
yofelwhich reminds me..16:50
yofelphononlogger: to make you happy http://kyofel.wordpress.com/16:50
shadeslayeri need ultra strong coffee with 5xp16:50
shadeslayer5x phononlogger16:50
shadeslayeryofel: hey!16:50
shadeslayernot fair16:50
yofel:P16:50
shadeslayerit was my idea16:50
shadeslayerlol empty blogs++16:51
yofelerm, I used kyofel as an alternate nick a while ago too...16:51
shadeslayerbut it was my idea to use in a blog! :P16:51
shadeslayeratleast yours has a proper theme16:51
yofelok, I own you a beer :P16:51
shadeslayermine is just the default wp thingy16:51
yofel*owe16:51
shadeslayeraye16:52
Riddelldebfx: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc  I need the .changes too16:52
shadeslayeri found a potential minion today16:57
shadeslayerin order to protect him from phononlogger he shall remain un-named16:58
shadeslayerunfourtunately he's currently using youboontoo16:58
Riddelldebfx: got the .changes?17:41
jjesseDarkwingDuck you around?  was at lunch, i should be on around 8pm Eastern or later17:54
yofelRiddell: ok, just to make sure I do this right: for the symbols files, run dpkg-gensymbols for every library and apply that patch to the new files? removing the -0ubuntu... part from the version18:01
Riddellyofel: see http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html18:02
yofelaah, thanks :)18:03
yofelRiddell: this looks right? debian/libkastencontrollers4.symbols http://paste.ubuntu.com/553696/18:19
yofelor should I have generated that against libkastencontrollers4.6.0 instead of 418:20
Riddellyofel: I don't think it matters18:21
Riddellyofel: looks fine18:21
yofelk, thanks18:21
Riddellphononlogger: well I added that vlc patch to natty vlc but I still get a crash on quit from amarok18:21
Riddellphononlogger: bug 70249318:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 702493 in vlc (Ubuntu) "amarok crashes on quit when using vlc backend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70249318:31
debfxRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes18:42
phononloggeryofel: you haz no entries :P19:01
phononloggerRiddell: curious19:01
phononloggermaybe someone messed with natty's PA19:02
Riddellnatty's PA is 0.9.2219:02
phononloggerRiddell: doesnt crash on maverick 19:06
rickspencer3Riddell, hey, are you at lunch?19:07
Riddellrickspencer3: no I'm in my room19:07
shadeslayerphononlogger: you poked yesterday?19:07
phononloggerRiddell: let me have a look at the PA src real quick19:07
phononloggershadeslayer: something about war for sure19:07
Riddellrickspencer3: need me?19:07
shadeslayeryep19:07
phononloggeroh righty19:07
phononloggershadeslayer: you need to go to thiago and sell him a patch19:07
phononloggerfor KIO19:07
shadeslayerlawl19:07
rickspencer3Riddell, well, jono and I are working on an application developer portal for Ubuntu19:07
shadeslayerphononlogger: just mail it to him?19:08
rickspencer3should we create a sister site for Kubuntu?19:08
phononloggershadeslayer: oh, I did not think of that19:08
phononloggershadeslayer: well, then mail him plz :P19:08
shadeslayerphononlogger: im fighting kdebindings on this front19:08
rickspencer3well, let me rephrase that, if Kubuntu team wants a kubuntu.developer.com, let me know19:08
shadeslayer!!!19:08
phononlogger???19:08
Riddellrickspencer3: I'm not sure, generally Kubuntu will just point people to the kde docs if they want to code programmes19:08
rickspencer3Riddell, ok, that's fair19:09
shadeslayerphononlogger: kdebindings!!!19:09
rickspencer3the offer is open if Kubuntu wants to maintain such a page19:09
phononloggershadeslayer: I once had a binding to python, it broke19:09
shadeslayer:P19:09
* phononlogger needs to rm -rf his user's tmp some time19:10
shadeslayerphononlogger: lemme complete kross and then look at your phonon player and then i can send him the patch19:10
phononloggerI have like 5 copies of qt src in there19:10
shadeslayerhahaha19:10
shadeslayerphononlogger: i usally have all sorts of stuff19:10
shadeslayeri rm -rf it every week19:10
* phononlogger fears he has important things in there19:11
phononloggerfor example my supreme phonon testing player ^^19:11
shadeslayer:D19:11
* shadeslayer is all sorts of scared this sem19:11
shadeslayerphononlogger: hold me19:11
phononloggerno19:12
* yofel has his tmp as a symlink to /tmp which is a tmpfs - helps to keep things clean :P19:12
phononloggerRiddell: if I am not mistaken the relevant changes to PA should be in .2219:12
* shadeslayer grabs phononlogger19:12
phononlogger(in maverick they were only because of a monster stable-queue branch patch19:12
phononlogger)19:12
phononloggerRiddell: also is rdenis having a fight with you over where teh bug should belong?19:12
RiddellI think he is :)19:13
phononloggerRiddell: also are you sure it is the same crash?19:13
Riddellphononlogger: I'm not sure, could be different for all I know19:13
phononloggerRiddell: well, if you could get a backtrace :)19:13
phononloggeralso, apparently phonon-gstreamer git is again broken with dragon :P19:14
Riddellphononlogger: http://paste.kde.org/2438/19:14
phononloggerthat is the crash alright19:14
phononloggerRiddell: are you sure the patch was applied and you have everything upgraded to your patched version? :P19:15
Riddellhmm19:17
Riddellwell now I did dpkg --install *deb  for all the vlc bits19:17
Riddell(again) 19:17
Riddelland now it doesn't crash19:17
phononloggersee :P19:18
Riddellyou were right after all19:18
phononloggernow it can go SRU?19:18
phononloggerbtw19:18
phononloggerI think your report is a dup19:18
phononloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-vlc/+bug/66867119:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 668671 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Amarok crashes with phonon-vlc backend " [Undecided,New]19:19
phononloggerprobably should merge those two19:19
neversfeldeshould we activate message indicator support for choqok by default?19:19
debfxRiddell: have you got the link to the amarok changes file?19:24
phononloggermarkey: faithless19:45
shadeslayerRiddell: did you get confirmation that your talk was submitted?19:49
markeydebfx: http://gitweb.kde.org/amarok.git/blob/HEAD:/ChangeLog19:51
yofelRiddell: now with symbols http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/sdk.diff19:52
phononloggermarkey: http://paste.kde.org/2440/19:53
phononloggerget that when adding an sftp stream url19:53
shadeslayerRiddell: nvm19:58
Riddellneversfelde: yes but see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26288420:01
ubottuKDE bug 262884 in general "No way to turn off systray icon" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]20:01
neversfeldeRiddell: yes, I planned to talk to mtux about it, but I didn't see him the last days on irc or somewhere else20:03
shadeslayer!find  falcon/engine.h20:08
ubottuFile falcon/engine.h found in falconpl-dev20:08
neversfeldek, I will ask upstream about turning on this feature by default, they are planning to release choqok 1.0 stable with KDE 4.6. I they are fine with it, we should activate it.20:17
* shadeslayer pokes apa20:22
* shadeslayer pokes phononlogger20:22
shadeslayerphononlogger: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+build/214983720:22
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* Riddell grabs kdevelop 1.1.220:40
Riddellphononlogger: this rdenis chap sounds like he knows what he's talking about on bug 66867121:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 668671 in phonon-backend-vlc (Ubuntu) "Amarok crashes with phonon-vlc backend " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66867121:08
Riddellphononlogger: but I attached the debdiff anyway and told bdrung to upload it when he does his next vlc maverick upload21:08
phononloggerRiddell: yes he is right21:09
phononloggerjust mentioned this in #phonon21:09
phononloggerwe had the --no-xlib thing for a bit, but markey complained about issues21:09
phononloggerwe'll try again for 4.521:09
phononloggeror rather, phonon-vlc 0.421:10
phononloggerRiddell: currently the PA change is sufficient enough though21:10
Riddellthanks phononlogger 21:11
sheytanphononlogger hey21:13
phononloggeryo sheytan21:13
Riddellhi sheytan 21:13
sheytanphononlogger please tell me. In natty we will have to install video and audio codecs depending on app open or will it be the same, just one window to install them all21:14
sheytan?21:14
sheytanRiddell hey, i need to fixt the graphics ;)21:14
phononloggersheytan: as in my blog post21:14
Riddellsheytan: what graphics?21:14
sheytanphononlogger i think, the old way was better :)21:15
sheytanphononlogger but installer will still offer the closed source stuff?21:15
phononloggerno it wasnt :P21:15
sheytanRiddell on the cd image page21:15
markeyphononlogger: Sentynel from #amarok came up with a one-liner patch that apparently fixes the libpulse crashing21:15
phononloggersheytan: yes21:15
sheytanit doesn't look like i want it to21:15
sheytanphononlogger well, we will see :D21:15
sheytanphononlogger does the latest build have that stuff from your screencast?21:15
phononloggersheytan: gstreamer only has like 5 packages that contained closed soure stuff21:16
Riddellsheytan: we can change the .css but the html is pretty much fixed, so that's the limitation21:16
phononloggerand I think mp3 already drags in 2 of them, mov the other 3 or so21:16
phononloggersheytan: no21:16
phononloggeronly going to release next week21:16
phononloggerthat said21:16
phononloggerwe need to makre sure our kpk is new enough 21:16
sheytanphononlogger sure, i'll try :)21:17
phononloggerwe pushed some UI improvements that were not present in the version of 10.1021:17
sheytanphononlogger screenshot? :D21:17
phononloggersheytan: as in the screencast21:17
phononloggerthough I think the newest kpk (aka apper) has some regression21:18
phononloggerthe dialog should offer app specific branding like app icon and whatnot21:18
phononloggerwhich it did not when I tried with apper21:18
sheytanRiddell the separator between dark and light background doesn't mach :)21:18
sheytanpleae, fix21:18
phononloggerthen again the thing is a bit b0rked with apper ^^21:18
ulyssesJontheEchidna: Muon (the package manager) doesn't have an icon in Kickoff, is ot only for me?21:18
JontheEchidnaulysses: fixed in svn21:19
JontheEchidnasomehow my add_subdirectory(icons) got undone :s21:19
sheytanphononlogger looks like my name for Kpk is already there :D21:19
sheytangood :D21:19
phononloggerJontheEchidna: faulty software.... :P21:20
JontheEchidnaulysses: I'm planning on a 1.1.0 release this sunday, so the fix should appear then21:20
Riddellsheytan: that sounds like something that can be done in the CSS21:21
* phononlogger is totally looking forward to phonon 4.4.421:21
sheytanRiddell yep :)21:21
ulyssesJontheEchidna: perfect21:21
sheytanoh, wait, we have to fix it, right? :D21:21
sheytanphononlogger do you share somwhere a source file of the screencast?21:22
sheytanblip sucks21:22
phononloggeryou can get the source from blip21:23
Riddellshadeslayer: awake?21:23
shadeslayeryus21:23
shadeslayerfixing kdebindings tho :P21:23
CIA-39[muon] jmthomas * 1214274 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (muon/MainWindow.cpp updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp) Since the worker now does a few seconds worth of preparation before asking for a password, use a busy cursor to indicate that we are in fact working and not just hung.21:23
shadeslayerphononlogger: it does not pick up falcondl-dev21:24
phononloggermaybe the finder is broken21:24
shadeslayerah maybe 21:24
Riddellshadeslayer: should I buy a flight to India?21:24
shadeslayerno wait21:24
shadeslayerlemme see21:24
shadeslayerRiddell: YES!21:24
phononloggersheytan: http://blip.tv/file/get/Apachelogger-PhononGStreamerCodecInstallation610.avi21:24
phononloggeryou can also haz a couple of gib large mkv :P21:24
shadeslayerRiddell: get your visa?21:25
shadeslayerphononlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553775 << something is wrong there21:26
shadeslayeroh wait21:26
shadeslayerphononlogger: halp21:27
phononloggermaybe it does not set the library and include_Dirs :P21:27
phononloggerbut sets other vars21:27
phononloggertake a look at the findfalcon in cmake/21:27
phononloggerusually the comment header tells you what vars will be set21:28
shadeslayerphononlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55377621:28
shadeslayerah yess21:28
shadeslayerneed to replace with FALCON_FOUND21:29
sheytanphononlogger i think it should say "install codec" instead of "search" :)21:31
shadeslayerphononlogger: also, its making falconpl a optional dep21:31
shadeslayerwhereas afaik it was a required dep earlier21:31
phononloggersheytan: that is in kpk21:31
sheytanphononlogger search may also mean, it can take a search, but it doesn't have to find anything21:31
sheytanphononlogger should i poke dantti then?21:31
phononloggersheytan: it does not have to find anything21:31
phononloggerif the codec is not supported it will not find anything21:31
sheytanphononlogger ok, but in this case, "search" isn't the right word :D21:32
phononloggerwell21:32
phononloggertalk to dantti21:32
shadeslayer\o/21:32
shadeslayeromg21:32
phononloggerthat is all handled by kpk21:32
phononloggerphonon-gstreamer just shouts out that it requires a codec21:32
shadeslayerphononlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55377921:32
sheytanphononlogger but this dialog is made by you, or not?21:32
phononloggersheytan: nice21:33
shadeslayernow to figure out how to make it a required dep21:33
phononloggersheytan: no21:33
phononloggerall kpk21:33
phononloggersheytan: why required?21:33
shadeslayerdude21:33
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phononloggerIMHO none of them should be required21:33
kshadeslayerok21:33
phononloggerat all21:33
sheytanphononlogger well, i might not cache dantti. Please tell him :)21:33
* phononlogger never catches anyone21:33
phononloggeralso I am busy with the phonon release preps21:33
kshadeslayerphononlogger: so all of them are optional .. as seen by CMake output?21:33
phononloggerkshadeslayer: yes21:34
phononloggeris that a problem?21:34
kshadeslayerno im just confirming21:34
phononloggeryou might want only falcon21:34
phononloggeror only pyth0rn21:34
phononloggeror only ruby21:34
phononloggercompletely up to the user/distro21:34
kshadeslayerok21:34
kshadeslayernow to think of a git commit message21:35
phononloggerfix0r21:35
kshadeslayerlol21:36
phononloggerfix0r with grettings from phononlogger, if you want more fix0rs join his war efforts in #phonon21:36
phononloggerkshadeslayer: also jut to make this clear, I am claiming copyright on this as I came up with the concept for the fix :P21:36
kshadeslayerofcourse21:37
kshadeslayerall yours21:37
kshadeslayerlemme write it in the commit message21:37
kshadeslayerwas a awesome learning experience tho21:37
phononloggerJontheEchidna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/+bug/63086521:38
ubottuUbuntu bug 630865 in phonon (Ubuntu) "unable to install new version of `/usr/include/phonon/Phonon/AbstractAudioOutput'" [Undecided,New]21:38
phononloggeryou downstream have broken packageeees21:38
kshadeslayeromg21:39
kshadeslayerfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly21:39
highvoltagehow rude.21:39
phononloggertotally21:40
kshadeslayerhttp://commits.kde.org/058ca971/14ca705701f4720b03bd2cf18b2e1b72b566981a21:40
phononloggerreminds me on jajabings :D21:40
phononloggeryayz21:40
phononloggerI haz famous21:40
phononloggerthanks kshadeslayer21:40
phononloggerI shall make you padawan first thing when I am sober21:41
kshadeslayerno .. thank you 21:41
phononloggersometime 201821:41
ulyssesphononlogger: you're drunk again?21:41
kshadeslayerlol21:41
kshadeslayerulysses: when is he not drunk21:41
phononloggerdudes21:41
kshadeslayer:P21:41
phononloggerI was sober all day yesterday21:41
kshadeslayeroh21:41
kshadeslayerphononlogger: what happened?21:41
phononloggerand worked until 5:30 or so on kio streaming shit21:41
ulyssesI guess there's no alcohol in the jail:P21:42
phononloggerwith the conclusion that the war is not winable but only a bogus peace situation can be reached21:42
phononloggerand I will only accept this because it gives me the time I need to gather more troops and take down the kio alliance21:42
phononloggerphonon shall free the galaxy from slavery!21:43
phononloggersometimes one could think KIO is only driven by slaves21:43
phononloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/+bug/52950321:48
ubottuUbuntu bug 529503 in phonon (Ubuntu) "Amarok skip tracks in playlist" [Undecided,New]21:48
phononloggershould that not be fix0red with kubuntu-restricted-foobar?21:48
kshadeslayerphononlogger: line 24 http://paste.ubuntu.com/553780/21:52
phononloggerwrong name21:53
phononloggerthe findfalcon is called findfalcon21:53
phononloggerIIRC21:53
phononloggerso you need to find_package without the pl suffix21:53
kshadeslayersame thing21:54
kshadeslayerphononlogger: ^^21:56
phononloggerdude21:56
phononloggerkshadeslayer: uncomment the cmakemodulepath thing in the main cmakelists21:57
phononloggeror it wont find the finder21:57
phononloggerin fact21:57
phononloggeryou could trim that a bit21:57
phononloggerthe last path seems rather useless21:57
kshadeslayerphononlogger: the if(FALCON_COMPILED) part?21:59
phononloggerthe main cmakelists21:59
phononlogger...21:59
kshadeslayerah ok22:00
phononloggeroh22:05
phononloggerit is thursday again22:05
phononloggertime for random befriending on facebook22:05
kshadeslayerits friday!22:09
* kshadeslayer is still trying to figure out stuff22:10
phononloggersheytan: btw, when will you make nuno a kubuntu user?22:12
phononloggerkshadeslayer: you are in the future again22:13
phononloggeryou are all weird22:13
sheytanphononlogger why me? :D22:13
phononloggerdid I not assign you that task?22:13
kshadeslayerphononlogger: http://paste.kde.org/2448/22:13
* phononlogger assigns that task to sheytan22:13
* phononlogger also appoints sheytan artwork dude of kubuntu22:13
sheytanphononlogger this might be hard :D22:13
phononloggeryou may print that on business cards22:14
sheytan"kubuntu artwork dude" sounds proud :D22:14
kshadeslayerplease make beautiful buisness kards :D22:14
kshadeslayerusing projects.kde.org and other themes22:15
phononloggergeneral of phonon is supreme at any rate22:15
phononloggerwhich is why everyone should aspire to becoming that22:15
phononloggerkshadeslayer: live.gnome.org?22:16
kshadeslayerwhut22:16
phononloggeroh, btw, it turned out that my fedora was not fedora but ubuntu and then it turned out that it was not ubuntu but kubuntu22:16
phononloggerpeople always trick me into installing distros I do not want22:17
phononloggerearlier today I used the suse22:17
kshadeslayerpoor phononlogger22:17
phononloggerphonon crashed22:17
phononloggerand I went "WAAAAAHAH?"22:17
phononloggersoon after that I used centos22:17
phononloggerwhich had KDE 322:17
phononloggerand artsd crashed22:17
phononloggerand I went -.-22:17
phononloggerQuintasan: ping22:23
MamarokI seem not to be able to install the kdevelop beta package22:28
kshadeslayerMamarok: log?22:29
Mamarokjust a moment, I am updating other stuff currently, will tell you in a few minutes22:29
kshadeslayersure ...22:29
* kshadeslayer gives bindings another go22:30
sheytanphononlogger take a look http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2421/amarok.png22:30
phononloggeris it pron?22:30
phononloggeroh22:30
phononloggerstinky amarok22:30
phononloggersheytan: make it phonon and I shall kizz you22:30
sheytanphononlogger "p0rn is good for you. Did you know that? " from beavis and butthead ;d22:32
phononloggernever watched that22:32
phononloggermarkey: ping22:32
sheytanphononlogger best cartoon ever22:33
sheytantry :D22:33
phononloggerI did22:33
phononloggerdidnt find it watchable22:33
sheytanphononlogger really? You didn't like it?22:34
phononloggerno, I have taste :P22:35
sheytan;(22:37
phononloggeryofel: you still haz no blog entries ...22:37
yofellet me finish kdevelop, then give me a year to figure out what to write22:39
phononloggermy22:49
phononloggeryofel: write about neon :P22:49
kshadeslayerphononlogger: night22:49
phononloggernini kshadeslayer22:49
kshadeslayer:D22:49
phononloggeryofel: general concept22:49
kshadeslayerphononlogger: bindings is still not fixed22:49
phononloggerhow it works22:49
phononloggertech blah blah22:49
phononloggerthat is great prep for launch IMHO22:49
kshadeslayerwill have a looksie tomorrow22:49
kshadeslayerQuintasan: DAMN YOU22:50
phononloggeryofel: also you need ot get yor blog on planet youbuntoo22:50
kshadeslayer:322:50
phononloggernow that you are member :D22:50
yofelhm, that too..22:53
yofelnini sheytan22:53
yofel..22:53
yofelnini kshadeslayer22:53
phononloggeroh noes22:56
phononloggerNicke: I just remembered that I still do not have an image on planet kde :D22:57
phononloggereh22:57
phononloggerNightrose: ^22:57
phononloggerNicke: sry22:57
ari-tczewJontheEchidna: around?23:02
sheytanphononlogger http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1571/phonon.png23:04
phononloggerluv it23:10
sheytangoing to sleep23:18
sheytanbye all :)23:18
afiestasagateau: if I "instance" menubar plasmoid, what do I have to do to make it work withotu having to restart the session?23:30
afiestas(I'm using 11.04)23:30
phononloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etuo_Fk0GJk23:35
phononloggerthat makes me think that Riddell does not speak proper scottish23:35
afiestasglobal dbusmenuqt is not working on 11.04 (or I don't know how to make it work), should I report a bug?23:59

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