[02:25] DarkwingDuck you around these days? [02:27] Riddell: I hope you don't want bread during your stay in Texas: http://i.imgur.com/tFFoN.jpg [02:28] those southerners act like they've never seen snow. (and they probably haven't) [02:28] its funny have co-worker in atlanta and they have same problem [02:28] no milk either [02:29] DarkwingDuck just curious if you have had a chance to work any on kubuntu-docs [08:16] phononlogger: Riddell: please please push the libpulse fix to Maverick backports [08:16] as far as I know, it's a one-liner [08:16] and Amark 2.4 release is very soon. currently it crashes on exit every single time [08:16] Amarok* [08:17] it's super annoying === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:17] JontheEchidna: kde-config-touchpad should stay in kubuntu-meta [10:18] debian uses that package name for synaptiks [12:07] hey === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [12:53] markey: I handed it to a minion [12:53] no clue what he is doing with it [12:54] phononlogger: I guess what he doing is: FAIL [12:54] could that be it? [12:54] hmm [12:54] maybe a soft pat (or hit) on the head might help? :) [12:54] last daily ISO (12-jan) can't install kubuntu. Crash after leaving page that ask for username, password. Known problem or should I collect debug data? [12:54] if he were here... [12:54] cause this is major important [12:54] and easy to do [12:54] apparently ... xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is all sorts of b0rked [12:55] markey: also you do not write about m [12:55] e [12:55] * phononlogger shall refuse talking with markey for a while [12:57] wut [12:57] why do I not write about you? [12:57] I write about you constantly [12:57] in ze public of a blog! [12:57] ah [12:58] IRC doesnt count [12:58] :P [12:58] phononlogger: well, it's too early to tell what your career will be. CS student is cool, and the Kubuntu and Phonon stuff too [12:58] would be to hard to start off with "while apachelogger, the love of my heart, is waging ware against the evil alliance of KIO..." [12:58] but you might and up as minion of Canonical [12:58] not sure that would be blog worthy ;) [12:58] essentially [12:58] s/and/end [12:59] at least there people would admit when they are secretly in lovez with me [12:59] anything containing the terms "phononlogger" are not worthy of markey's blog [12:59] :P [12:59] like jr [12:59] JRT [12:59] phononlogger: become the Jim Beam of KDE [12:59] or so [12:59] become French! [12:59] :O [12:59] that could be blog worthy [12:59] svn revert markey [12:59] he has gone mad [12:59] oh dear [13:00] * phononlogger also svn reverts all the shit he did yesterday [13:00] SVN is dead, Nietzsche said that! [13:00] I single handedly threaded 5 or so classes at 4am :D :D :D [13:00] just to see if that works [13:00] * phononlogger is quite wicked [13:00] but war is doin that to one [13:01] omg [13:01] markey: you have a desire! [13:01] * shadeslayer hugs markey [13:03] markey: dude ... im getting a spare micro sd card tomorrow ... and then ill be working over the weekend to get plasma mobile running on the desire ... i haz a ubuntu chroot for nexus one i can use :D [13:03] so boot ubuntu chroot -> install kubuntu-mobile -> launch plasma mobile [13:04] just need to make sure the chroot works [13:05] yeah I have Desire, but not much Desire to run Plasma on it :p [13:05] I'd rather have it not crashing [13:06] how would that work anyway, Plasma on Dalvik? [13:06] markey: your not running CM? [13:06] no, I am planning to run GingerVillain [13:06] markey: simply booting a chroot ontop of the linux kernel [13:06] problem is: I have a rather new phone, and I have already rooted and cracked it [13:06] they have a ubuntu chroot for the nexus one [13:06] but! [13:07] not I learned, it needs yet another crack [13:07] HTC added another security check [13:07] been on it for weeks, this is getting damn complicated [13:07] markey: Desire Z? [13:07] s/not/now [13:07] no, plain Desire, but they got some updates too [13:07] i just used unrevoked ... worked like a charm [13:07] PVT4 [13:07] latest revision [13:07] yes [13:07] me too [13:07] but it has other security checks now [13:07] 2 more [13:07] hmm [13:08] well i have CM ... [13:08] got rid of that sense shit [13:08] yes, so you have an older revision [13:08] got it? [13:08] yeah ... [13:09] essentially ... you still have the HTC ROM [13:09] you cannot install anything on it without cracking both checks [13:09] impossible [13:09] im sure someone at XDA will come up with something [13:09] I have it in S-OFF mode now, thanks to AlphaRev 1.8 [13:09] but that's not enough [13:09] ah [13:09] * shadeslayer is scared to do S-OFF [13:10] no reason to do it as wel [13:10] *well [13:10] well, I have no other options. and AlphaRev worked fine here [13:10] yep [13:11] im just waiting for the Gingerbread ROM from CM [13:13] should arrive in a few weeks [13:13] but! [13:13] GingerVillain is more or less CM [13:13] they are working together [13:13] never heard of GV [13:14] looking now [13:24] markey: GV looks like its flying on the desire [13:25] if only they would store my SMS's on the SD card [13:25] *then* id be happy and content [13:26] hm [13:26] yeah [13:26] hmm [13:26] wait [13:26] I hardly use SMS [13:26] it's what teenagers use [13:29] well ... im just out of my teens ... still *heavily* use SMS's tho [13:31] markey: one thing i do like about the HTC Software.... the keyboard [13:31] light years ahead of the android one [13:37] Riddell: around? [13:51] shadeslayer: I hate the virtual keyboard, I mistype constantly [13:51] especially in vertical mode [13:52] Gingerbread is said to have a better one [13:52] or use Swype [13:52] yeah ... but id still like to stick to the HTC keyboard [13:52] it suits me nicely [15:28] Hrm, is there any way we can modify klipper to use the plasma theme instead of the system app theme? [15:31] morning shadeslayer [15:36] jussi: by plasmafying it (as in, making that bit happening in plasma instead of in app called "klipper") [15:36] Riddell: want to do a KDE packaging dexter's lab? [15:36] or did you already submit that? [15:36] * shadeslayer charted out some ideas for conf.kde.in during college [15:37] KDE packging Dexters lab and project neon dexters lab [15:37] *packaging [15:40] shadeslayer: yes I submitted one for .deb packaging [15:40] I still have no idea what dexters means [15:41] presumably some bit of Indian lingo [15:41] so, packaging, kdepim, amarok and kdevelop x 2 outstanding [15:42] kdepim was groo who's disappeared [15:42] yofel was doing kdevelop unstable, how's that doing yofel_ ? [15:42] amarok I don't remember [15:47] Riddell: appmenu-qt 0.1.1 is out. It only fixes the FTBFS, so it's not really important to package it. [15:47] thanks agateau [15:47] agateau: should this be announced to other distro packagers? [15:48] Riddell: it still needs the Qt patch so I don't know if other distro will take it [15:51] Riddell: ok ... dexter's is basically a 2 hour long lab session ... [15:51] based on "Dexter's Lab" [15:51] kubotu: google Dexter's Lab [15:51] Results for Dexter's Lab: 1. Dexter's Laboratory | Free Games and Videos | Cartoon Network: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/dexter/index.html | 2. Dexter's Laboratory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter's_Laboratory | 3. Dexter's Laboratory (TV Series 1996–2003) - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115157/ [15:51] Riddell: ^^ [15:51] interesting [15:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter's_Laboratory << [15:52] kubotu is broken [15:52] ill submit a Project Neon DL then [15:53] I'll come to that one :) [15:54] lemme pastebin a few ideas .. hold on [15:55] Hey guys! [15:55] he lives [15:56] I *finally* have a working computer back [15:56] hey jjesse [15:56] Yes, I live and I am cramming Docs from today till sunday [15:57] wwahoo [15:57] :) [15:57] How is everyone in KDE land? [15:59] kicking ass and taking name [15:59] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/2413/94935125/ [16:00] Awesome. [16:01] Riddell: Who do I talk to in the KDE world to see who is putting together a booth for SCaLE in Los Angeles [16:02] DarkwingDuck: people on US west coast at a guess [16:03] DarkwingDuck i expect to see lots of bzr commit messages then :) [16:03] in theory kde-promo list is used for events but it doesn't work very well since they're so locale specific [16:03] DarkwingDuck: try blauzahl [16:04] Riddell: Roger [16:04] Riddell: I'm going to be there on a Ubuntu Front however, I would love to corrdenate my time a bit. :) [16:05] jjesse: Yuppers! :) [16:06] debfx, neversfelde: who ended up doing amarok if anyone? [16:08] Riddell: I did, packaging is in bzr but I forgot to upload it [16:09] debfx: great [16:09] debfx: did you do maverick backport? [16:09] jjesse: are you going to be around tonight? [16:10] Riddell: the package works fine on maverick without changes [16:11] I'm uploading it to ninjas now [16:16] uploading it to ninjas isn't ideal, that has 4.6 beta in it but it'll go into backports at release which doesn't === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:17] \o [16:17] debfx: will you be around on saturday european evening to do the amarok release? [16:17] I'll be flying over the atlantic at the time [16:18] morning Quintasan [16:20] Riddell: yes, I can copy the package to the backports ppa when it's released [16:20] Riddell: You're going to this conf.kde.in thingy? [16:21] debfx: well as I say it can't be copied, it'll need to be reuploaded [16:21] unless we clear out kubuntu-ninjas now [16:21] Quintasan: I hope to yes [16:22] debfx: and uploaded to natty and announced on website [16:22] Riddell: source copy should be fine, no? [16:22] debfx: yes source copy is fine === dantti is now known as dantti_away [16:24] Riddell: I don't have access to the website [16:24] debfx: we can fix that :) [16:25] voila [16:25] and I can't upload it to the main archive [16:27] debfx: if you give me a package, I'll sign the .dsc then you can upload when Nightrose says so [16:28] have you discussed about use oxygen-gtk instead of QtCurve? [16:28] afiestas__: yes, JontheEchidna has been doing that and recently set it to green on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo so in theory it's all done [16:29] wow, nice :p [16:31] * afiestas__ just got a thought from the sky, mozilla is doing Qt again because of Meego :D [16:32] afiestas__: that'll be only the 10th port of mozilla to Qt? :) [16:32] phononlogger: you want me to upload this vlc pulse patch to maverick? [16:32] phononlogger: does it have a bug report? [16:32] http://paste.kde.org/2423/ <-- xD [16:34] afiestas__: ITS TRUE!!!111!!11shiftone [16:35] Quintasan: lol .. i have android 2.3 [16:35] shadeslayer: lol and I have a locked bootloader [16:35] Quintasan: as ScottK would say .... You have a poor choice of hardware [16:35] s/poor/no/ [16:35] Quintasan: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [16:36] wtf [16:36] s/you/me [16:36] stupid kubotu [16:38] markey: what's the pulse patch you want applied? [16:39] is that the vlc one? [16:39] kdebindings time! [16:39] shadeslayer: in neon? [16:39] Riddell: yes [16:39] ill do one binding everyday from today [16:39] well we still need new sip for python do we not [16:39] Riddell: phononlogger would know, it's some bug in libpulse, crashes on exit in combination with Phonon-VLC [16:39] Quintasan: did you get stuck with that? [16:39] not sure what other side effects it has [16:39] * shadeslayer looks at Quintasan [16:40] now where did i put that dep graph [16:40] markey: ok sounds like this one http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/0101-pulse-Disable-xlib-in-pulse.-libpulse-now-uses-xcb-o.patch [16:40] Riddell: i also managed to find a spare microsd card so i can work on plasma-mobile over the weekend [16:40] Riddell: somehow, I was supposed to work on it today but my chemistry teacher suddenly decided to show up after she was absent for like 4 months [16:40] Quintasan: that excuse is awesome :P [16:41] And she claims I have one grade and it's the end of the semester :/ [16:41] Riddell: that could be it. but I'm not fully sure, better to wait for phononlogger [16:41] shadeslayer: No, seriously [16:41] Quintasan: right ;) [16:41] jk :P [16:41] Riddell: likely it's the right patch, I think [16:41] shadeslayer: I will post pics of my grades from chemistry if u want :P [16:41] Quintasan: lol [16:42] There is only one B there and she is supposed to grade me for the whole semester of work [16:42] omg [16:42] CM 7 [16:42] basing on grades :D [16:42] for my Desire [16:42] :O [16:42] how did i ignore that [16:42] Quintasan: ask her to put B's everywhere [16:43] or if she's extra nice ... A's [16:43] shadeslayer: It's not only me :/ [16:43] shadeslayer: few people don't any grades at all :DDD [16:43] ^_^ [16:43] lol they have two tests tomorrow [16:44] Quintasan: tests suck [16:44] they are overrated [16:44] while I have a short one and I have to work on a topic and she will ask me some questions [16:44] dont prove anything [16:44] Quintasan: oh ill show you something [16:45] Quintasan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png << see that [16:45] thats a program for a adder in VHDL [16:45] shadeslayer: the teach was absent from October I think :O [16:45] now .. i have to make a pacman game in that same language [16:45] Quintasan: i bet phononlogger kidnapped her [16:45] phononlogger: ill be mad like after this semester [16:45] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [16:46] *mad like you after [16:46] Quintasan: seen that link? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:46] VHDL <3 [16:46] o/ [16:47] yofel: oh hai [16:47] Riddell: kdevelop is waiting for me to properly finish okteta stuff, otherwise finished [16:47] * shadeslayer starts on kimono [16:48] you're fast.. [16:48] yofel: yeah ...i originally started on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png [16:48] then after 3 hours [16:48] i was at line 5 [16:49] make yourself some coffee, put in a dose of apachelogger and you should be fine [16:50] yofel: tried and failed [16:50] which reminds me.. [16:50] phononlogger: to make you happy http://kyofel.wordpress.com/ [16:50] i need ultra strong coffee with 5xp [16:50] 5x phononlogger [16:50] yofel: hey! [16:50] not fair [16:50] :P [16:50] it was my idea [16:51] lol empty blogs++ [16:51] erm, I used kyofel as an alternate nick a while ago too... [16:51] but it was my idea to use in a blog! :P [16:51] atleast yours has a proper theme [16:51] ok, I own you a beer :P [16:51] mine is just the default wp thingy [16:51] *owe [16:52] aye [16:52] debfx: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc I need the .changes too [16:57] i found a potential minion today [16:58] in order to protect him from phononlogger he shall remain un-named [16:58] unfourtunately he's currently using youboontoo [17:41] debfx: got the .changes? [17:54] DarkwingDuck you around? was at lunch, i should be on around 8pm Eastern or later [18:01] Riddell: ok, just to make sure I do this right: for the symbols files, run dpkg-gensymbols for every library and apply that patch to the new files? removing the -0ubuntu... part from the version [18:02] yofel: see http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html [18:03] aah, thanks :) [18:19] Riddell: this looks right? debian/libkastencontrollers4.symbols http://paste.ubuntu.com/553696/ [18:20] or should I have generated that against libkastencontrollers4.6.0 instead of 4 [18:21] yofel: I don't think it matters [18:21] yofel: looks fine [18:21] k, thanks [18:21] phononlogger: well I added that vlc patch to natty vlc but I still get a crash on quit from amarok [18:31] phononlogger: bug 702493 [18:31] Launchpad bug 702493 in vlc (Ubuntu) "amarok crashes on quit when using vlc backend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702493 [18:42] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes [19:01] yofel: you haz no entries :P [19:01] Riddell: curious [19:02] maybe someone messed with natty's PA [19:02] natty's PA is 0.9.22 [19:06] Riddell: doesnt crash on maverick [19:07] Riddell, hey, are you at lunch? [19:07] rickspencer3: no I'm in my room [19:07] phononlogger: you poked yesterday? [19:07] Riddell: let me have a look at the PA src real quick [19:07] shadeslayer: something about war for sure [19:07] rickspencer3: need me? [19:07] yep [19:07] oh righty [19:07] shadeslayer: you need to go to thiago and sell him a patch [19:07] for KIO [19:07] lawl [19:07] Riddell, well, jono and I are working on an application developer portal for Ubuntu [19:08] phononlogger: just mail it to him? [19:08] should we create a sister site for Kubuntu? [19:08] shadeslayer: oh, I did not think of that [19:08] shadeslayer: well, then mail him plz :P [19:08] phononlogger: im fighting kdebindings on this front [19:08] well, let me rephrase that, if Kubuntu team wants a kubuntu.developer.com, let me know [19:08] !!! [19:08] ??? [19:08] rickspencer3: I'm not sure, generally Kubuntu will just point people to the kde docs if they want to code programmes [19:09] Riddell, ok, that's fair [19:09] phononlogger: kdebindings!!! [19:09] the offer is open if Kubuntu wants to maintain such a page [19:09] shadeslayer: I once had a binding to python, it broke [19:09] :P [19:10] * phononlogger needs to rm -rf his user's tmp some time [19:10] phononlogger: lemme complete kross and then look at your phonon player and then i can send him the patch [19:10] I have like 5 copies of qt src in there [19:10] hahaha [19:10] phononlogger: i usally have all sorts of stuff [19:10] i rm -rf it every week [19:11] * phononlogger fears he has important things in there [19:11] for example my supreme phonon testing player ^^ [19:11] :D [19:11] * shadeslayer is all sorts of scared this sem [19:11] phononlogger: hold me [19:12] no [19:12] * yofel has his tmp as a symlink to /tmp which is a tmpfs - helps to keep things clean :P [19:12] Riddell: if I am not mistaken the relevant changes to PA should be in .22 [19:12] * shadeslayer grabs phononlogger [19:12] (in maverick they were only because of a monster stable-queue branch patch [19:12] ) [19:12] Riddell: also is rdenis having a fight with you over where teh bug should belong? [19:13] I think he is :) [19:13] Riddell: also are you sure it is the same crash? [19:13] phononlogger: I'm not sure, could be different for all I know [19:13] Riddell: well, if you could get a backtrace :) [19:14] also, apparently phonon-gstreamer git is again broken with dragon :P [19:14] phononlogger: http://paste.kde.org/2438/ [19:14] that is the crash alright [19:15] Riddell: are you sure the patch was applied and you have everything upgraded to your patched version? :P [19:17] hmm [19:17] well now I did dpkg --install *deb for all the vlc bits [19:17] (again) [19:17] and now it doesn't crash [19:18] see :P [19:18] you were right after all [19:18] now it can go SRU? [19:18] btw [19:18] I think your report is a dup [19:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-vlc/+bug/668671 [19:19] Ubuntu bug 668671 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Amarok crashes with phonon-vlc backend " [Undecided,New] [19:19] probably should merge those two [19:19] should we activate message indicator support for choqok by default? [19:24] Riddell: have you got the link to the amarok changes file? [19:45] markey: faithless [19:49] Riddell: did you get confirmation that your talk was submitted? [19:51] debfx: http://gitweb.kde.org/amarok.git/blob/HEAD:/ChangeLog [19:52] Riddell: now with symbols http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/sdk.diff [19:53] markey: http://paste.kde.org/2440/ [19:53] get that when adding an sftp stream url [19:58] Riddell: nvm [20:01] neversfelde: yes but see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262884 [20:01] KDE bug 262884 in general "No way to turn off systray icon" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] [20:03] Riddell: yes, I planned to talk to mtux about it, but I didn't see him the last days on irc or somewhere else [20:08] !find falcon/engine.h [20:08] File falcon/engine.h found in falconpl-dev [20:17] k, I will ask upstream about turning on this feature by default, they are planning to release choqok 1.0 stable with KDE 4.6. I they are fine with it, we should activate it. [20:22] * shadeslayer pokes apa [20:22] * shadeslayer pokes phononlogger [20:22] phononlogger: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+build/2149837 === muesli_ is now known as muesli [20:40] * Riddell grabs kdevelop 1.1.2 [21:08] phononlogger: this rdenis chap sounds like he knows what he's talking about on bug 668671 [21:08] Launchpad bug 668671 in phonon-backend-vlc (Ubuntu) "Amarok crashes with phonon-vlc backend " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668671 [21:08] phononlogger: but I attached the debdiff anyway and told bdrung to upload it when he does his next vlc maverick upload [21:09] Riddell: yes he is right [21:09] just mentioned this in #phonon [21:09] we had the --no-xlib thing for a bit, but markey complained about issues [21:09] we'll try again for 4.5 [21:10] or rather, phonon-vlc 0.4 [21:10] Riddell: currently the PA change is sufficient enough though [21:11] thanks phononlogger [21:13]