[02:25] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck you around these days?
[02:27] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I hope you don't want bread during your stay in Texas: http://i.imgur.com/tFFoN.jpg
[02:28] <JontheEchidna> those southerners act like they've never seen snow. (and they probably haven't)
[02:28] <jjesse> its funny have co-worker in atlanta and they have same problem
[02:28] <jjesse> no milk either
[02:29] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck just curious if you have had a chance to work any on kubuntu-docs
[08:16] <markey> phononlogger: Riddell: please please push the libpulse fix to Maverick backports
[08:16] <markey> as far as I know, it's a one-liner
[08:16] <markey> and Amark 2.4 release is very soon. currently it crashes on exit every single time
[08:16] <markey> Amarok*
[08:17] <markey> it's super annoying
[10:17] <debfx> JontheEchidna: kde-config-touchpad should stay in kubuntu-meta
[10:18] <debfx> debian uses that package name for synaptiks
[12:07] <smarter> hey
[12:53] <phononlogger> markey: I handed it to a minion
[12:53] <phononlogger> no clue what he is doing with it
[12:54] <markey> phononlogger: I guess what he doing is: FAIL
[12:54] <markey> could that be it?
[12:54] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:54] <markey> maybe a soft pat (or hit) on the head might help? :)
[12:54] <allee> last daily ISO (12-jan) can't install kubuntu.  Crash after leaving page that ask for username, password.  Known problem or should I collect debug data?
[12:54] <phononlogger> if he were here...
[12:54] <markey> cause this is major important
[12:54] <markey> and easy to do
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apparently ... xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is all sorts of b0rked
[12:55] <phononlogger> markey: also you do not write about m
[12:55] <phononlogger> e
[12:55]  * phononlogger shall refuse talking with markey for a while
[12:57] <markey> wut
[12:57] <markey> why do I not write about you?
[12:57] <markey> I write about you constantly
[12:57] <phononlogger> in ze public of a blog!
[12:57] <markey> ah
[12:58] <shadeslayer> IRC doesnt count
[12:58] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:58] <markey> phononlogger: well, it's too early to tell what your career will be. CS student is cool, and the Kubuntu and Phonon stuff too
[12:58] <phononlogger> would be to hard to start off with "while apachelogger, the love of my heart, is waging ware against the evil alliance of KIO..."
[12:58] <markey> but you might and up as minion of Canonical
[12:58] <markey> not sure that would be blog worthy ;)
[12:58] <shadeslayer> essentially 
[12:58] <markey> s/and/end
[12:59] <phononlogger> at least there people would admit when they are secretly in lovez with me
[12:59] <shadeslayer> anything containing the terms "phononlogger" are not worthy of markey's blog
[12:59] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:59] <phononlogger> like jr
[12:59] <markey> JRT
[12:59] <markey> phononlogger: become the Jim Beam of KDE
[12:59] <markey> or so
[12:59] <markey> become French!
[12:59] <phononlogger> :O
[12:59] <markey> that could be blog worthy
[12:59] <phononlogger> svn revert markey
[12:59] <phononlogger> he has gone mad
[12:59] <phononlogger> oh dear
[13:00]  * phononlogger also svn reverts all the shit he did yesterday
[13:00] <markey> SVN is dead, Nietzsche said that!
[13:00] <phononlogger> I single handedly threaded 5 or so classes at 4am :D :D :D
[13:00] <phononlogger> just to see if that works
[13:00]  * phononlogger is quite wicked
[13:00] <phononlogger> but war is doin that to one
[13:01] <shadeslayer> omg
[13:01] <shadeslayer> markey: you have a desire!
[13:01]  * shadeslayer hugs markey
[13:03] <shadeslayer> markey: dude ... im getting a spare micro sd card tomorrow ... and then ill be working over the weekend to get plasma mobile running on the desire ... i haz a ubuntu chroot for nexus one i can use :D
[13:03] <shadeslayer> so boot ubuntu chroot -> install kubuntu-mobile -> launch plasma mobile
[13:04] <shadeslayer> just need to make sure the chroot works
[13:05] <markey> yeah I have Desire, but not much Desire to run Plasma on it :p
[13:05] <markey> I'd rather have it not crashing
[13:06] <markey> how would that work anyway, Plasma on Dalvik?
[13:06] <shadeslayer> markey: your not running CM?
[13:06] <markey> no, I am planning to run GingerVillain
[13:06] <shadeslayer> markey: simply booting a chroot ontop of the linux kernel
[13:06] <markey> problem is: I have a rather new phone, and I have already rooted and cracked it
[13:06] <shadeslayer> they have a ubuntu chroot for the nexus one
[13:06] <markey> but!
[13:07] <markey> not I learned, it needs yet another crack
[13:07] <markey> HTC added another security check
[13:07] <markey> been on it for weeks, this is getting damn complicated
[13:07] <shadeslayer> markey: Desire Z?
[13:07] <markey> s/not/now
[13:07] <markey> no, plain Desire, but they got some updates too
[13:07] <shadeslayer> i just used unrevoked ... worked like a charm
[13:07] <markey> PVT4
[13:07] <markey> latest revision
[13:07] <markey> yes
[13:07] <markey> me too
[13:07] <markey> but it has other security checks now
[13:07] <markey> 2 more
[13:07] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:08] <shadeslayer> well i have CM ...
[13:08] <shadeslayer> got rid of that sense shit
[13:08] <markey> yes, so you have an older revision
[13:08] <markey> got it?
[13:08] <shadeslayer> yeah ...
[13:09] <shadeslayer> essentially ... you still have the HTC ROM
[13:09] <markey> you cannot install anything on it without cracking both checks
[13:09] <markey> impossible
[13:09] <shadeslayer> im sure someone at XDA will come up with something
[13:09] <markey> I have it in S-OFF mode now, thanks to AlphaRev 1.8
[13:09] <markey> but that's not enough
[13:09] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:09]  * shadeslayer is scared to do S-OFF
[13:10] <shadeslayer> no reason to do it as wel
[13:10] <shadeslayer> *well
[13:10] <markey> well, I have no other options. and AlphaRev worked fine here
[13:10] <markey> yep
[13:11] <shadeslayer> im just waiting for the Gingerbread ROM from CM
[13:13] <markey> should arrive in a few weeks
[13:13] <markey> but!
[13:13] <markey> GingerVillain is more or less CM
[13:13] <markey> they are working together
[13:13] <shadeslayer> never heard of GV
[13:14] <shadeslayer> looking now
[13:24] <shadeslayer> markey: GV looks like its flying on the desire
[13:25] <shadeslayer> if only they would store my SMS's on the SD card
[13:25] <shadeslayer> *then* id be happy and content
[13:26] <markey> hm
[13:26] <markey> yeah
[13:26] <markey> hmm
[13:26] <markey> wait
[13:26] <markey> I hardly use SMS
[13:26] <markey> it's what teenagers use
[13:29] <shadeslayer> well ... im just out of my teens ... still *heavily* use SMS's tho
[13:31] <shadeslayer> markey: one thing i do like about the HTC Software.... the keyboard
[13:31] <shadeslayer> light years ahead of the android one
[13:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: around?
[13:51] <markey> shadeslayer: I hate the virtual keyboard, I mistype constantly
[13:51] <markey> especially in vertical mode
[13:52] <markey> Gingerbread is said to have a better one
[13:52] <markey> or use Swype
[13:52] <shadeslayer> yeah ... but id still like to stick to the HTC keyboard
[13:52] <shadeslayer> it suits me nicely
[15:28] <jussi> Hrm, is there any way we can modify klipper to use the plasma theme instead of the system app theme? 
[15:31] <Riddell> morning shadeslayer 
[15:36] <Tm_T> jussi: by plasmafying it (as in, making that bit happening in plasma instead of in app called "klipper")
[15:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: want to do a KDE packaging dexter's lab?
[15:36] <shadeslayer> or did you already submit that?
[15:36]  * shadeslayer charted out some ideas for conf.kde.in during college
[15:37] <shadeslayer> KDE packging Dexters lab and project neon dexters lab
[15:37] <shadeslayer> *packaging
[15:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes I submitted one for .deb packaging
[15:40] <Riddell> I still have no idea what dexters means
[15:41] <Riddell> presumably some bit of Indian lingo
[15:41] <Riddell> so, packaging, kdepim, amarok and kdevelop x 2 outstanding
[15:42] <Riddell> kdepim was groo who's disappeared
[15:42] <Riddell> yofel was doing kdevelop unstable, how's that doing yofel_ ?
[15:42] <Riddell> amarok I don't remember
[15:47] <agateau> Riddell: appmenu-qt 0.1.1 is out. It only fixes the FTBFS, so it's not really important to package it.
[15:47] <Riddell> thanks agateau 
[15:47] <Riddell> agateau: should this be announced to other distro packagers?
[15:48] <agateau> Riddell: it still needs the Qt patch so I don't know if other distro will take it
[15:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok ... dexter's is basically a 2 hour long lab session ...
[15:51] <shadeslayer> based on "Dexter's Lab"
[15:51] <shadeslayer> kubotu: google Dexter's Lab
[15:51] <kubotu> Results for Dexter's Lab: 1. Dexter's Laboratory | Free Games and Videos | Cartoon Network: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/dexter/index.html | 2. Dexter's Laboratory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter&apos;s_Laboratory | 3. Dexter's Laboratory (TV Series 1996–2003) - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115157/
[15:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[15:51] <shadeslayer> interesting
[15:52] <shadeslayer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter's_Laboratory << 
[15:52] <shadeslayer> kubotu is broken
[15:52] <shadeslayer> ill submit a Project Neon DL then
[15:53] <Riddell> I'll come to that one :)
[15:54] <shadeslayer> lemme pastebin a few ideas .. hold on
[15:55] <DarkwingDuck> Hey guys!
[15:55] <jjesse> he lives
[15:56] <DarkwingDuck> I *finally* have a working computer back
[15:56] <DarkwingDuck> hey jjesse 
[15:56] <DarkwingDuck> Yes, I live and I am cramming Docs from today till sunday
[15:57] <jjesse> wwahoo
[15:57] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[15:57] <DarkwingDuck> How is everyone in KDE land?
[15:59] <jjesse> kicking ass and taking name
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/2413/94935125/
[16:00] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome.
[16:01] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: Who do I talk to in the KDE world to see who is putting together a booth for SCaLE in Los Angeles
[16:02] <Riddell> DarkwingDuck: people on US west coast at a guess
[16:03] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck i expect to see lots of bzr commit messages then :)
[16:03] <Riddell> in theory kde-promo list is used for events but it doesn't work very well since they're so locale specific
[16:03] <Riddell> DarkwingDuck: try blauzahl
[16:04] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: Roger
[16:04] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: I'm going to be there on a Ubuntu Front however, I would love to corrdenate my time a bit. :)
[16:05] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: Yuppers! :)
[16:06] <Riddell> debfx, neversfelde: who ended up doing amarok if anyone?
[16:08] <debfx> Riddell: I did, packaging is in bzr but I forgot to upload it
[16:09] <Riddell> debfx: great
[16:09] <Riddell> debfx: did you do maverick backport?
[16:09] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: are you going to be around tonight?
[16:10] <debfx> Riddell: the package works fine on maverick without changes
[16:11] <debfx> I'm uploading it to ninjas now
[16:16] <Riddell> uploading it to ninjas isn't ideal, that has 4.6 beta in it but it'll go into backports at release which doesn't
[16:17] <Quintasan> \o
[16:17] <Riddell> debfx: will you be around on saturday european evening to do the amarok release?
[16:17] <Riddell> I'll be flying over the atlantic at the time
[16:18] <Riddell> morning Quintasan 
[16:20] <debfx> Riddell: yes, I can copy the package to the backports ppa when it's released
[16:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: You're going to this conf.kde.in thingy?
[16:21] <Riddell> debfx: well as I say it can't be copied, it'll need to be reuploaded
[16:21] <Riddell> unless we clear out kubuntu-ninjas now
[16:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: I hope to yes
[16:22] <Riddell> debfx: and uploaded to natty and announced on website
[16:22] <debfx> Riddell: source copy should be fine, no?
[16:22] <Riddell> debfx: yes source copy is fine
[16:24] <debfx> Riddell: I don't have access to the website
[16:24] <Riddell> debfx: we can fix that :)
[16:25] <Riddell> voila
[16:25] <debfx> and I can't upload it to the main archive
[16:27] <Riddell> debfx: if you give me a package, I'll sign the .dsc then you can upload when Nightrose says so
[16:28] <afiestas__> have you discussed about use oxygen-gtk instead of QtCurve? 
[16:28] <Riddell> afiestas__: yes, JontheEchidna has been doing that and recently set it to green on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo so in theory it's all done
[16:29] <afiestas__> wow, nice :p
[16:31]  * afiestas__ just got a thought from the sky, mozilla is doing Qt again because of Meego :D
[16:32] <Riddell> afiestas__: that'll be only the 10th port of mozilla to Qt? :)
[16:32] <Riddell> phononlogger: you want me to upload this vlc pulse patch to maverick?
[16:32] <Riddell> phononlogger: does it have a bug report?
[16:32] <afiestas__> http://paste.kde.org/2423/ <-- xD
[16:34] <Quintasan> afiestas__: ITS TRUE!!!111!!11shiftone
[16:35] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: lol .. i have android 2.3
[16:35] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: lol and I have a locked bootloader
[16:35] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: as ScottK would say .... You have a poor choice of hardware 
[16:35] <Quintasan> s/poor/no/
[16:35] <kubotu> Quintasan: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[16:36] <Quintasan> wtf
[16:36] <Quintasan> s/you/me
[16:36] <Quintasan> stupid kubotu
[16:38] <Riddell> markey: what's the pulse patch you want applied?
[16:39] <Riddell> is that the vlc one?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> kdebindings time!
[16:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: in neon?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes
[16:39] <shadeslayer> ill do one binding everyday from today
[16:39] <Riddell> well we still need new sip for python do we not
[16:39] <markey> Riddell: phononlogger would know, it's some bug in libpulse, crashes on exit in combination with Phonon-VLC
[16:39] <Riddell> Quintasan: did you get stuck with that?
[16:39] <markey> not sure what other side effects it has
[16:39]  * shadeslayer looks at Quintasan
[16:40] <shadeslayer> now where did i put that dep graph
[16:40] <Riddell> markey: ok sounds like this one http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/0101-pulse-Disable-xlib-in-pulse.-libpulse-now-uses-xcb-o.patch
[16:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i also managed to find a spare microsd card so i can work on plasma-mobile over the weekend
[16:40] <Quintasan> Riddell: somehow, I was supposed to work on it today but my chemistry teacher suddenly decided to show up after she was absent for like 4 months
[16:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: that excuse is awesome :P
[16:41] <Quintasan> And she claims I have one grade and it's the end of the semester :/
[16:41] <markey> Riddell: that could be it. but I'm not fully sure, better to wait for phononlogger
[16:41] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: No, seriously
[16:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: right ;)
[16:41] <shadeslayer> jk :P
[16:41] <markey> Riddell: likely it's the right patch, I think
[16:41] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I will post pics of my grades from chemistry if u want :P
[16:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: lol
[16:42] <Quintasan> There is only one B there and she is supposed to grade me for the whole semester of work
[16:42] <shadeslayer> omg
[16:42] <shadeslayer> CM 7
[16:42] <Quintasan> basing on grades :D
[16:42] <shadeslayer> for my Desire
[16:42] <shadeslayer> :O
[16:42] <shadeslayer> how did i ignore that
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ask her to put B's everywhere 
[16:43] <shadeslayer> or if she's extra nice ... A's
[16:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: It's not only me :/
[16:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: few people don't any grades at all :DDD
[16:43] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[16:43] <Quintasan> lol they have two tests tomorrow
[16:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: tests suck
[16:44] <shadeslayer> they are overrated
[16:44] <Quintasan> while I have a short one and I have to work on a topic and she will ask me some questions
[16:44] <shadeslayer> dont prove anything
[16:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: oh ill show you something
[16:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png << see that
[16:45] <shadeslayer> thats a program for a adder in VHDL
[16:45] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: the teach was absent from October I think :O
[16:45] <shadeslayer> now .. i have to make a pacman game in that same language
[16:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i bet phononlogger kidnapped her
[16:45] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: ill be mad like after this semester
[16:45] <debfx> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[16:46] <shadeslayer> *mad like you after
[16:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: seen that link?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> VHDL <3
[16:46] <yofel> o/
[16:47] <shadeslayer> yofel: oh hai
[16:47] <yofel> Riddell: kdevelop is waiting for me to properly finish okteta stuff, otherwise finished
[16:47]  * shadeslayer starts on kimono
[16:48] <yofel> you're fast..
[16:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah ...i originally started on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png
[16:48] <shadeslayer> then after 3 hours
[16:48] <shadeslayer> i was at line 5
[16:49] <yofel> make yourself some coffee, put in a dose of apachelogger and you should be fine
[16:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: tried and failed
[16:50] <yofel> which reminds me..
[16:50] <yofel> phononlogger: to make you happy http://kyofel.wordpress.com/
[16:50] <shadeslayer> i need ultra strong coffee with 5xp
[16:50] <shadeslayer> 5x phononlogger
[16:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: hey!
[16:50] <shadeslayer> not fair
[16:50] <yofel> :P
[16:50] <shadeslayer> it was my idea
[16:51] <shadeslayer> lol empty blogs++
[16:51] <yofel> erm, I used kyofel as an alternate nick a while ago too...
[16:51] <shadeslayer> but it was my idea to use in a blog! :P
[16:51] <shadeslayer> atleast yours has a proper theme
[16:51] <yofel> ok, I own you a beer :P
[16:51] <shadeslayer> mine is just the default wp thingy
[16:51] <yofel> *owe
[16:52] <shadeslayer> aye
[16:52] <Riddell> debfx: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1.dsc  I need the .changes too
[16:57] <shadeslayer> i found a potential minion today
[16:58] <shadeslayer> in order to protect him from phononlogger he shall remain un-named
[16:58] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately he's currently using youboontoo
[17:41] <Riddell> debfx: got the .changes?
[17:54] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck you around?  was at lunch, i should be on around 8pm Eastern or later
[18:01] <yofel> Riddell: ok, just to make sure I do this right: for the symbols files, run dpkg-gensymbols for every library and apply that patch to the new files? removing the -0ubuntu... part from the version
[18:02] <Riddell> yofel: see http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[18:03] <yofel> aah, thanks :)
[18:19] <yofel> Riddell: this looks right? debian/libkastencontrollers4.symbols http://paste.ubuntu.com/553696/
[18:20] <yofel> or should I have generated that against libkastencontrollers4.6.0 instead of 4
[18:21] <Riddell> yofel: I don't think it matters
[18:21] <Riddell> yofel: looks fine
[18:21] <yofel> k, thanks
[18:21] <Riddell> phononlogger: well I added that vlc patch to natty vlc but I still get a crash on quit from amarok
[18:31] <Riddell> phononlogger: bug 702493
[18:42] <debfx> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/amarok_2.4.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[19:01] <phononlogger> yofel: you haz no entries :P
[19:01] <phononlogger> Riddell: curious
[19:02] <phononlogger> maybe someone messed with natty's PA
[19:02] <Riddell> natty's PA is 0.9.22
[19:06] <phononlogger> Riddell: doesnt crash on maverick 
[19:07] <rickspencer3> Riddell, hey, are you at lunch?
[19:07] <Riddell> rickspencer3: no I'm in my room
[19:07] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: you poked yesterday?
[19:07] <phononlogger> Riddell: let me have a look at the PA src real quick
[19:07] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: something about war for sure
[19:07] <Riddell> rickspencer3: need me?
[19:07] <shadeslayer> yep
[19:07] <phononlogger> oh righty
[19:07] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: you need to go to thiago and sell him a patch
[19:07] <phononlogger> for KIO
[19:07] <shadeslayer> lawl
[19:07] <rickspencer3> Riddell, well, jono and I are working on an application developer portal for Ubuntu
[19:08] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: just mail it to him?
[19:08] <rickspencer3> should we create a sister site for Kubuntu?
[19:08] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: oh, I did not think of that
[19:08] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: well, then mail him plz :P
[19:08] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: im fighting kdebindings on this front
[19:08] <rickspencer3> well, let me rephrase that, if Kubuntu team wants a kubuntu.developer.com, let me know
[19:08] <shadeslayer> !!!
[19:08] <phononlogger> ???
[19:08] <Riddell> rickspencer3: I'm not sure, generally Kubuntu will just point people to the kde docs if they want to code programmes
[19:09] <rickspencer3> Riddell, ok, that's fair
[19:09] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: kdebindings!!!
[19:09] <rickspencer3> the offer is open if Kubuntu wants to maintain such a page
[19:09] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: I once had a binding to python, it broke
[19:09] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:10]  * phononlogger needs to rm -rf his user's tmp some time
[19:10] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: lemme complete kross and then look at your phonon player and then i can send him the patch
[19:10] <phononlogger> I have like 5 copies of qt src in there
[19:10] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[19:10] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: i usally have all sorts of stuff
[19:10] <shadeslayer> i rm -rf it every week
[19:11]  * phononlogger fears he has important things in there
[19:11] <phononlogger> for example my supreme phonon testing player ^^
[19:11] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:11]  * shadeslayer is all sorts of scared this sem
[19:11] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: hold me
[19:12] <phononlogger> no
[19:12]  * yofel has his tmp as a symlink to /tmp which is a tmpfs - helps to keep things clean :P
[19:12] <phononlogger> Riddell: if I am not mistaken the relevant changes to PA should be in .22
[19:12]  * shadeslayer grabs phononlogger
[19:12] <phononlogger> (in maverick they were only because of a monster stable-queue branch patch
[19:12] <phononlogger> )
[19:12] <phononlogger> Riddell: also is rdenis having a fight with you over where teh bug should belong?
[19:13] <Riddell> I think he is :)
[19:13] <phononlogger> Riddell: also are you sure it is the same crash?
[19:13] <Riddell> phononlogger: I'm not sure, could be different for all I know
[19:13] <phononlogger> Riddell: well, if you could get a backtrace :)
[19:14] <phononlogger> also, apparently phonon-gstreamer git is again broken with dragon :P
[19:14] <Riddell> phononlogger: http://paste.kde.org/2438/
[19:14] <phononlogger> that is the crash alright
[19:15] <phononlogger> Riddell: are you sure the patch was applied and you have everything upgraded to your patched version? :P
[19:17] <Riddell> hmm
[19:17] <Riddell> well now I did dpkg --install *deb  for all the vlc bits
[19:17] <Riddell> (again) 
[19:17] <Riddell> and now it doesn't crash
[19:18] <phononlogger> see :P
[19:18] <Riddell> you were right after all
[19:18] <phononlogger> now it can go SRU?
[19:18] <phononlogger> btw
[19:18] <phononlogger> I think your report is a dup
[19:19] <phononlogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-vlc/+bug/668671
[19:19] <phononlogger> probably should merge those two
[19:19] <neversfelde> should we activate message indicator support for choqok by default?
[19:24] <debfx> Riddell: have you got the link to the amarok changes file?
[19:45] <phononlogger> markey: faithless
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you get confirmation that your talk was submitted?
[19:51] <markey> debfx: http://gitweb.kde.org/amarok.git/blob/HEAD:/ChangeLog
[19:52] <yofel> Riddell: now with symbols http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/sdk.diff
[19:53] <phononlogger> markey: http://paste.kde.org/2440/
[19:53] <phononlogger> get that when adding an sftp stream url
[19:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nvm
[20:01] <Riddell> neversfelde: yes but see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262884
[20:03] <neversfelde> Riddell: yes, I planned to talk to mtux about it, but I didn't see him the last days on irc or somewhere else
[20:08] <shadeslayer> !find  falcon/engine.h
[20:17] <neversfelde> k, I will ask upstream about turning on this feature by default, they are planning to release choqok 1.0 stable with KDE 4.6. I they are fine with it, we should activate it.
[20:22]  * shadeslayer pokes apa
[20:22]  * shadeslayer pokes phononlogger
[20:22] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+build/2149837
[20:40]  * Riddell grabs kdevelop 1.1.2
[21:08] <Riddell> phononlogger: this rdenis chap sounds like he knows what he's talking about on bug 668671
[21:08] <Riddell> phononlogger: but I attached the debdiff anyway and told bdrung to upload it when he does his next vlc maverick upload
[21:09] <phononlogger> Riddell: yes he is right
[21:09] <phononlogger> just mentioned this in #phonon
[21:09] <phononlogger> we had the --no-xlib thing for a bit, but markey complained about issues
[21:09] <phononlogger> we'll try again for 4.5
[21:10] <phononlogger> or rather, phonon-vlc 0.4
[21:10] <phononlogger> Riddell: currently the PA change is sufficient enough though
[21:11] <Riddell> thanks phononlogger 
[21:13] <sheytan> phononlogger hey
[21:13] <phononlogger> yo sheytan
[21:13] <Riddell> hi sheytan 
[21:14] <sheytan> phononlogger please tell me. In natty we will have to install video and audio codecs depending on app open or will it be the same, just one window to install them all
[21:14] <sheytan> ?
[21:14] <sheytan> Riddell hey, i need to fixt the graphics ;)
[21:14] <phononlogger> sheytan: as in my blog post
[21:14] <Riddell> sheytan: what graphics?
[21:15] <sheytan> phononlogger i think, the old way was better :)
[21:15] <sheytan> phononlogger but installer will still offer the closed source stuff?
[21:15] <phononlogger> no it wasnt :P
[21:15] <sheytan> Riddell on the cd image page
[21:15] <markey> phononlogger: Sentynel from #amarok came up with a one-liner patch that apparently fixes the libpulse crashing
[21:15] <phononlogger> sheytan: yes
[21:15] <sheytan> it doesn't look like i want it to
[21:15] <sheytan> phononlogger well, we will see :D
[21:15] <sheytan> phononlogger does the latest build have that stuff from your screencast?
[21:16] <phononlogger> sheytan: gstreamer only has like 5 packages that contained closed soure stuff
[21:16] <Riddell> sheytan: we can change the .css but the html is pretty much fixed, so that's the limitation
[21:16] <phononlogger> and I think mp3 already drags in 2 of them, mov the other 3 or so
[21:16] <phononlogger> sheytan: no
[21:16] <phononlogger> only going to release next week
[21:16] <phononlogger> that said
[21:16] <phononlogger> we need to makre sure our kpk is new enough 
[21:17] <sheytan> phononlogger sure, i'll try :)
[21:17] <phononlogger> we pushed some UI improvements that were not present in the version of 10.10
[21:17] <sheytan> phononlogger screenshot? :D
[21:17] <phononlogger> sheytan: as in the screencast
[21:18] <phononlogger> though I think the newest kpk (aka apper) has some regression
[21:18] <phononlogger> the dialog should offer app specific branding like app icon and whatnot
[21:18] <phononlogger> which it did not when I tried with apper
[21:18] <sheytan> Riddell the separator between dark and light background doesn't mach :)
[21:18] <sheytan> pleae, fix
[21:18] <phononlogger> then again the thing is a bit b0rked with apper ^^
[21:18] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: Muon (the package manager) doesn't have an icon in Kickoff, is ot only for me?
[21:19] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: fixed in svn
[21:19] <JontheEchidna> somehow my add_subdirectory(icons) got undone :s
[21:19] <sheytan> phononlogger looks like my name for Kpk is already there :D
[21:19] <sheytan> good :D
[21:20] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: faulty software.... :P
[21:20] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: I'm planning on a 1.1.0 release this sunday, so the fix should appear then
[21:21] <Riddell> sheytan: that sounds like something that can be done in the CSS
[21:21]  * phononlogger is totally looking forward to phonon 4.4.4
[21:21] <sheytan> Riddell yep :)
[21:21] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: perfect
[21:21] <sheytan> oh, wait, we have to fix it, right? :D
[21:22] <sheytan> phononlogger do you share somwhere a source file of the screencast?
[21:22] <sheytan> blip sucks
[21:23] <phononlogger> you can get the source from blip
[21:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: awake?
[21:23] <shadeslayer> yus
[21:23] <shadeslayer> fixing kdebindings tho :P
[21:23] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1214274 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (muon/MainWindow.cpp updater/UpdaterWindow.cpp) Since the worker now does a few seconds worth of preparation before asking for a password, use a busy cursor to indicate that we are in fact working and not just hung.
[21:24] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: it does not pick up falcondl-dev
[21:24] <phononlogger> maybe the finder is broken
[21:24] <shadeslayer> ah maybe 
[21:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: should I buy a flight to India?
[21:24] <shadeslayer> no wait
[21:24] <shadeslayer> lemme see
[21:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: YES!
[21:24] <phononlogger> sheytan: http://blip.tv/file/get/Apachelogger-PhononGStreamerCodecInstallation610.avi
[21:24] <phononlogger> you can also haz a couple of gib large mkv :P
[21:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: get your visa?
[21:26] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553775 << something is wrong there
[21:26] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[21:27] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: halp
[21:27] <phononlogger> maybe it does not set the library and include_Dirs :P
[21:27] <phononlogger> but sets other vars
[21:27] <phononlogger> take a look at the findfalcon in cmake/
[21:28] <phononlogger> usually the comment header tells you what vars will be set
[21:28] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553776
[21:28] <shadeslayer> ah yess
[21:29] <shadeslayer> need to replace with FALCON_FOUND
[21:31] <sheytan> phononlogger i think it should say "install codec" instead of "search" :)
[21:31] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: also, its making falconpl a optional dep
[21:31] <shadeslayer> whereas afaik it was a required dep earlier
[21:31] <phononlogger> sheytan: that is in kpk
[21:31] <sheytan> phononlogger search may also mean, it can take a search, but it doesn't have to find anything
[21:31] <sheytan> phononlogger should i poke dantti then?
[21:31] <phononlogger> sheytan: it does not have to find anything
[21:31] <phononlogger> if the codec is not supported it will not find anything
[21:32] <sheytan> phononlogger ok, but in this case, "search" isn't the right word :D
[21:32] <phononlogger> well
[21:32] <phononlogger> talk to dantti
[21:32] <shadeslayer> \o/
[21:32] <shadeslayer> omg
[21:32] <phononlogger> that is all handled by kpk
[21:32] <phononlogger> phonon-gstreamer just shouts out that it requires a codec
[21:32] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553779
[21:32] <sheytan> phononlogger but this dialog is made by you, or not?
[21:33] <phononlogger> sheytan: nice
[21:33] <shadeslayer> now to figure out how to make it a required dep
[21:33] <phononlogger> sheytan: no
[21:33] <phononlogger> all kpk
[21:33] <phononlogger> sheytan: why required?
[21:33] <shadeslayer> dude
[21:33] <phononlogger> IMHO none of them should be required
[21:33] <kshadeslayer> ok
[21:33] <phononlogger> at all
[21:33] <sheytan> phononlogger well, i might not cache dantti. Please tell him :)
[21:33]  * phononlogger never catches anyone
[21:33] <phononlogger> also I am busy with the phonon release preps
[21:33] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: so all of them are optional .. as seen by CMake output?
[21:34] <phononlogger> kshadeslayer: yes
[21:34] <phononlogger> is that a problem?
[21:34] <kshadeslayer> no im just confirming
[21:34] <phononlogger> you might want only falcon
[21:34] <phononlogger> or only pyth0rn
[21:34] <phononlogger> or only ruby
[21:34] <phononlogger> completely up to the user/distro
[21:34] <kshadeslayer> ok
[21:35] <kshadeslayer> now to think of a git commit message
[21:35] <phononlogger> fix0r
[21:36] <kshadeslayer> lol
[21:36] <phononlogger> fix0r with grettings from phononlogger, if you want more fix0rs join his war efforts in #phonon
[21:36] <phononlogger> kshadeslayer: also jut to make this clear, I am claiming copyright on this as I came up with the concept for the fix :P
[21:37] <kshadeslayer> ofcourse
[21:37] <kshadeslayer> all yours
[21:37] <kshadeslayer> lemme write it in the commit message
[21:37] <kshadeslayer> was a awesome learning experience tho
[21:38] <phononlogger> JontheEchidna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/+bug/630865
[21:38] <phononlogger> you downstream have broken packageeees
[21:39] <kshadeslayer> omg
[21:39] <kshadeslayer> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[21:39] <highvoltage> how rude.
[21:40] <phononlogger> totally
[21:40] <kshadeslayer> http://commits.kde.org/058ca971/14ca705701f4720b03bd2cf18b2e1b72b566981a
[21:40] <phononlogger> reminds me on jajabings :D
[21:40] <phononlogger> yayz
[21:40] <phononlogger> I haz famous
[21:40] <phononlogger> thanks kshadeslayer
[21:41] <phononlogger> I shall make you padawan first thing when I am sober
[21:41] <kshadeslayer> no .. thank you 
[21:41] <phononlogger> sometime 2018
[21:41] <ulysses> phononlogger: you're drunk again?
[21:41] <kshadeslayer> lol
[21:41] <kshadeslayer> ulysses: when is he not drunk
[21:41] <phononlogger> dudes
[21:41] <kshadeslayer> :P
[21:41] <phononlogger> I was sober all day yesterday
[21:41] <kshadeslayer> oh
[21:41] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: what happened?
[21:41] <phononlogger> and worked until 5:30 or so on kio streaming shit
[21:42] <ulysses> I guess there's no alcohol in the jail:P
[21:42] <phononlogger> with the conclusion that the war is not winable but only a bogus peace situation can be reached
[21:42] <phononlogger> and I will only accept this because it gives me the time I need to gather more troops and take down the kio alliance
[21:43] <phononlogger> phonon shall free the galaxy from slavery!
[21:43] <phononlogger> sometimes one could think KIO is only driven by slaves
[21:48] <phononlogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/+bug/529503
[21:48] <phononlogger> should that not be fix0red with kubuntu-restricted-foobar?
[21:52] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: line 24 http://paste.ubuntu.com/553780/
[21:53] <phononlogger> wrong name
[21:53] <phononlogger> the findfalcon is called findfalcon
[21:53] <phononlogger> IIRC
[21:53] <phononlogger> so you need to find_package without the pl suffix
[21:54] <kshadeslayer> same thing
[21:56] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: ^^
[21:56] <phononlogger> dude
[21:57] <phononlogger> kshadeslayer: uncomment the cmakemodulepath thing in the main cmakelists
[21:57] <phononlogger> or it wont find the finder
[21:57] <phononlogger> in fact
[21:57] <phononlogger> you could trim that a bit
[21:57] <phononlogger> the last path seems rather useless
[21:59] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: the if(FALCON_COMPILED) part?
[21:59] <phononlogger> the main cmakelists
[21:59] <phononlogger> ...
[22:00] <kshadeslayer> ah ok
[22:05] <phononlogger> oh
[22:05] <phononlogger> it is thursday again
[22:05] <phononlogger> time for random befriending on facebook
[22:09] <kshadeslayer> its friday!
[22:10]  * kshadeslayer is still trying to figure out stuff
[22:12] <phononlogger> sheytan: btw, when will you make nuno a kubuntu user?
[22:13] <phononlogger> kshadeslayer: you are in the future again
[22:13] <phononlogger> you are all weird
[22:13] <sheytan> phononlogger why me? :D
[22:13] <phononlogger> did I not assign you that task?
[22:13] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: http://paste.kde.org/2448/
[22:13]  * phononlogger assigns that task to sheytan
[22:13]  * phononlogger also appoints sheytan artwork dude of kubuntu
[22:13] <sheytan> phononlogger this might be hard :D
[22:14] <phononlogger> you may print that on business cards
[22:14] <sheytan> "kubuntu artwork dude" sounds proud :D
[22:14] <kshadeslayer> please make beautiful buisness kards :D
[22:15] <kshadeslayer> using projects.kde.org and other themes
[22:15] <phononlogger> general of phonon is supreme at any rate
[22:15] <phononlogger> which is why everyone should aspire to becoming that
[22:16] <phononlogger> kshadeslayer: live.gnome.org?
[22:16] <kshadeslayer> whut
[22:16] <phononlogger> oh, btw, it turned out that my fedora was not fedora but ubuntu and then it turned out that it was not ubuntu but kubuntu
[22:17] <phononlogger> people always trick me into installing distros I do not want
[22:17] <phononlogger> earlier today I used the suse
[22:17] <kshadeslayer> poor phononlogger
[22:17] <phononlogger> phonon crashed
[22:17] <phononlogger> and I went "WAAAAAHAH?"
[22:17] <phononlogger> soon after that I used centos
[22:17] <phononlogger> which had KDE 3
[22:17] <phononlogger> and artsd crashed
[22:17] <phononlogger> and I went -.-
[22:23] <phononlogger> Quintasan: ping
[22:28] <Mamarok> I seem not to be able to install the kdevelop beta package
[22:29] <kshadeslayer> Mamarok: log?
[22:29] <Mamarok> just a moment, I am updating other stuff currently, will tell you in a few minutes
[22:29] <kshadeslayer> sure ...
[22:30]  * kshadeslayer gives bindings another go
[22:30] <sheytan> phononlogger take a look http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2421/amarok.png
[22:30] <phononlogger> is it pron?
[22:30] <phononlogger> oh
[22:30] <phononlogger> stinky amarok
[22:30] <phononlogger> sheytan: make it phonon and I shall kizz you
[22:32] <sheytan> phononlogger "p0rn is good for you. Did you know that? " from beavis and butthead ;d
[22:32] <phononlogger> never watched that
[22:32] <phononlogger> markey: ping
[22:33] <sheytan> phononlogger best cartoon ever
[22:33] <sheytan> try :D
[22:33] <phononlogger> I did
[22:33] <phononlogger> didnt find it watchable
[22:34] <sheytan> phononlogger really? You didn't like it?
[22:35] <phononlogger> no, I have taste :P
[22:37] <sheytan> ;(
[22:37] <phononlogger> yofel: you still haz no blog entries ...
[22:39] <yofel> let me finish kdevelop, then give me a year to figure out what to write
[22:49] <phononlogger> my
[22:49] <phononlogger> yofel: write about neon :P
[22:49] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: night
[22:49] <phononlogger> nini kshadeslayer
[22:49] <kshadeslayer> :D
[22:49] <phononlogger> yofel: general concept
[22:49] <kshadeslayer> phononlogger: bindings is still not fixed
[22:49] <phononlogger> how it works
[22:49] <phononlogger> tech blah blah
[22:49] <phononlogger> that is great prep for launch IMHO
[22:49] <kshadeslayer> will have a looksie tomorrow
[22:50] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan: DAMN YOU
[22:50] <phononlogger> yofel: also you need ot get yor blog on planet youbuntoo
[22:50] <kshadeslayer> :3
[22:50] <phononlogger> now that you are member :D
[22:53] <yofel> hm, that too..
[22:53] <yofel> nini sheytan
[22:53] <yofel> ..
[22:53] <yofel> nini kshadeslayer
[22:56] <phononlogger> oh noes
[22:57] <phononlogger> Nicke: I just remembered that I still do not have an image on planet kde :D
[22:57] <phononlogger> eh
[22:57] <phononlogger> Nightrose: ^
[22:57] <phononlogger> Nicke: sry
[23:02] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: around?
[23:04] <sheytan> phononlogger http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1571/phonon.png
[23:10] <phononlogger> luv it
[23:18] <sheytan> going to sleep
[23:18] <sheytan> bye all :)
[23:30] <afiestas> agateau: if I "instance" menubar plasmoid, what do I have to do to make it work withotu having to restart the session?
[23:30] <afiestas> (I'm using 11.04)
[23:35] <phononlogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etuo_Fk0GJk
[23:35] <phononlogger> that makes me think that Riddell does not speak proper scottish
[23:59] <afiestas> global dbusmenuqt is not working on 11.04 (or I don't know how to make it work), should I report a bug?