[01:00] <johnny77> I'm trying to get a program called Dropbox to autoload with Openbox, but can't seem to get it to work. Dropbox autoloads and works fine in Gnome and LXDE. If I pick it from the menu it works fine. I've done some Google searches, but none of the suggestions have helped.
[01:02] <phil_> Johnny77. Still in here, huh? lol
[01:02] <johnny77> phil_: Have you had any luck working on your problem?
[01:02] <phil_> Nope. Things got worse.... lo,l
[01:02] <phil_> lol*
[01:02] <johnny77> sorry.
[01:03] <ChrisDruif> What was your problem johnny77?
[01:03] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: I'm trying to get Dropbox to autoload in Openbox.
[01:04] <phil_> I went ahead and decided to install  third partition for Lubuntu, and it removed my other bootloader. Made it so I can't get into Windows 7, or Ubuntu UE. Just Lubuntu... I already found my answers though.
[01:04] <ChrisDruif> But it works when you select it from the menu? It works with PCmanFM?
[01:05] <phil_> I'm just going to fix the W7 bootloader and install Ultimate Edition 2.7
[01:05] <ChrisDruif> johnny77: ^
[01:06] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: Yes.
[01:06] <ChrisDruif> Alright...
[01:07] <ChrisDruif> What did you try to autoload it?
[01:11] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: First, I just tried adding it to the autoload.sh file in ~/.config/openbox
[01:12] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: I tried several different commands with varying sleep times.
[01:13] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: Then I found this page that talked about making a fake nautilus script.  http://docs.unity-linux.org/Dropbox
[01:14] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: Openbox seems to be reading the autostart file because it loads the lxpanel.
[01:15] <stlsaint> ChrisDruif: hey
[01:15] <ChrisDruif> Hai stlsaint :)
[01:15] <ChrisDruif> Do you know anything about dropbox in openbox?
[01:16] <ChrisDruif> And specially autoloading it?
[01:16] <ChrisDruif> johnny77 got a problem with it...
[01:19] <stlsaint> ChrisDruif: no, im a flux kind of guy! :D
[01:20] <ChrisDruif> Sorry johnny77, I don't know what else you could do. I've only found this: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Applications
[01:20] <ChrisDruif> Flux?
[01:20] <ChrisDruif> What's that?
[01:21] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: ok, thanks... I guess I'll just use LXDE instead.
[01:22] <ChrisDruif> phillw: I've finally installed lubuntu-desktop on my laptop....so I can choose which I run...
[01:22] <ChrisDruif> johnny77: Lubuntu = Ubuntu on LXDE :)
[01:22] <ChrisDruif> And atm LXDE uses OpenBox as Window Manager :)
[01:23] <head_victim> johnny77: I do know it was spoken about a while ago, can't remember who it was. Maybe try the mailing list?
[01:23] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: I have LXDE currently installed. I was just playing around with the idea of setting up an openbox session. Liked the idea of all the customizing I could do.
[01:24] <ChrisDruif> I'm wondering if things would change when switching to LXDE....seeing it uses OpenBox?
[01:25] <johnny77> ChrisDruif: That is why it confuses me so much. It works fine in LXDE, but not in Openbox.
[01:26] <ChrisDruif> That's just wrong :-/
[01:44]  * ChrisDruif is very tired and is going to bed
[02:11] <johnny77> is there an easy way to get openbox to restore defaults. I think I screwed something up.
[02:13] <head_victim> johnny77: should be a case of finding someone who can pastebin a vanilla/fresh config file?
[02:13] <head_victim> Mine's edited a fair bit though or I'd offer mine.
[02:13] <johnny77> head_victim: where is that file?
[02:14] <head_victim> http://openbox.org/wiki/Configuration
[02:18] <head_victim> johnny77: sorry I'm in and out a bit here and there so mainly trying to just find links to the info you're after so you can still get what you need done.
[02:19] <johnny77> head_victim: no problem.
[02:19] <head_victim> So if you are still having dramas, I'll do what I can when I'm here :)
[02:20] <johnny77> head_victim: Could I uninstall, reinstall openbox without screwing up LXDE?
[02:20] <head_victim> Not sure to be honest.
[02:21] <head_victim> MAYBE install lubuntu-default-settings might revert it
[02:22] <johnny77> head_victim: I don't have lubuntu installed, just LXDE.
[02:22] <head_victim> johnny77: ahh ok
[04:45] <MOP> Fresh install of lubuntu on an acer aspire one
[04:45] <MOP> I can't seem to activate the microphone
[04:45] <MOP> !microphone
[05:16] <bioterror> :D
[05:52] <sirscrubsalot> will installing "ubuntu software center" from synaptic package manager work and integrate well for lubuntu 10.10? ubuntu 10.10 was too heavy on my laptop so i was told to try lubuntu instead
[06:06] <bioterror> sirscrubsalot, well, what do you need it for?
[06:07] <bioterror> I would rather skip the software center
[06:08] <bioterror> and contentrate on apt-cache and apt-get, or just synaptic
[06:08] <bioterror> concentrate
[06:09] <phil_> I was actually coming in here to see if some one was in here, but since I'm signed in anyway... I'm about to do my research, but does any one know of any potential issues with adding the KDE desktop while only running Lubuntu?
[06:11] <phil_> I only ask because I was running Ubuntu UE 2.8, but it turns out that 2.8 vs 2.7 is unstable as crap, and doesn't properly support Lubuntu or KDE...
[06:12] <bioterror> ditch that UE
[06:12] <bioterror> why in the world you want to run something like that
[06:12] <bioterror> when you can just install Lubuntu 10.10 or what ever you want and just install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:13] <phil_> I did ditch UE. The new version is garbage... I'm just wondering if it's possible to install KDE alongside it. Either KDE or regular ol' Ubuntu.
[06:13] <bioterror> well, if you look that blue theme
[06:14] <phil_> First thing that I did was get rid of the theme when I had it. lol
[06:14] <bioterror> ofcourse you can do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or what ever you want
[06:14] <bioterror> but pure LXDE <3
[06:15] <phil_> And that will make it so I can switch between KDE and Lubuntu via login screen?
[06:15] <bioterror> yes
[06:15] <bioterror> but you have both applications in the menu
[06:16] <phil_> Do I do this:"sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"to get regular Ubuntu as well?
[06:16] <bioterror> yes
[06:16] <bioterror> or xubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <bioterror> or what ever you want
[06:17] <phil_> Yeah. I was considering that as well. :P
[06:17] <phil_> Thank you very much for your help. :)
[06:18] <phil_> Getting KDE now. Also wishing that I had a faster internet connection... lol
[06:18] <phil_> 30 minutes left... Ugh...
[06:18] <bioterror> well, get shovel in your and start digging a ditch for the fiber cable :D
[06:18] <bioterror> in your hand
[06:19] <phil_> lol
[06:19] <phil_> There's not really a way to "pause" the download, is there? lol
[06:19] <bioterror> well
[06:19] <bioterror> ctrl+c and it will continue from where it ended last time
[06:20] <phil_> Oh, cool.I have so much to learn... :(
[06:20] <phil_> lol
[06:20] <phil_> I've just always run UE so most everything was already there...
[06:22] <phil_> But seriously... 2.8 sucks... I liked 2.3, 2.4, and even 2.7, but I think that they just released 2.8 way too early...
[06:22] <bioterror> I really cant see the point of Ultra Edition
[06:22] <bioterror> unles you want totally ugly desktops
[06:23] <bioterror> if I wear a stupid looking hat, it will make me look stupid and hillybilly
[06:23] <bioterror> but if a cute girl wears that hat, it will be a fashion statement
[06:24] <phil_> lol. Well, it's still all very customizable. I even, out of sheer boredom, made an XP theme, a Mac theme, a W7 theme, and a W8 concept theme. :P
[06:27] <phil_> Here's tricky question for ya... I have my laptop set to dual boot between Windows and Ubuntu. Is there a way to increase the partition size for Ubuntu without reinstalling it?
[06:28] <bioterror> boot from livecd
[06:28] <bioterror> and play with gparted
[06:28] <bioterror> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[06:28] <phil_> I just wanna increase my Ubuntu space. Gparted might allow me to do that?
[06:29] <phil_> Oh! Cool! You know you're awesome, right? lol
[06:30] <bioterror> well, I spent this morning about 5min in front of the mirror looking myself
[06:30] <phil_> lol. :P
[06:30] <sirscrubsalot> bioterror - thanks for that reply, yeah i wasn't sure - i'm a first time user so all of this is very new to me / while running the package center vs the synaptic manager - it just appeared easier without picking and choosing everything...
[06:31] <bioterror> sirscrubsalot, we can train your apt-cache skills if you want ;D
[06:31] <phil_> I still prefer the Software Center. Just more used to it, I guess.
[06:32] <sirscrubsalot> what i want to do is install a fresh copy of lubuntu onto this old thinkpad p3 1gb 30gb laptop i have - i don't plan to dual boot, so this will be the only os - now i am just stuck figuring out how much to set aside for these partitions
[06:32] <bioterror> with software center you have no idea what's happening
[06:32] <bioterror> it doesnt tell what it's fetching, how fast, how many %
[06:32] <phil_> It says how fast now. They at least added that.
[06:32] <bioterror> sirscrubsalot, let's 2048MB for the swap and rest for the /
[06:33] <sirscrubsalot> bioterror - yeah for me that would be fine :) hehe /  i wish i had the time to learn it but for the temporary moment i just need a system up and running.
[06:33] <bioterror> let's say
[06:33] <sirscrubsalot> bioterror - do i need to set a /home ?
[06:33] <bioterror> sirscrubsalot, nope if you just do swap and /
[06:33] <sirscrubsalot> i was reading that the swap should be somewhere in the middle and not the end?
[06:34] <bioterror> does it really matter?
[06:34] <bioterror> with normal websurfing you wont go to swap that easily
[06:34] <phil_> Well, thank you very much for your help, Bioterror. I'm gonna head out now.
[06:34] <sirscrubsalot> i don't know :) i was just asking - i've seen mixed answers from googling it -
[06:34] <phil_> Take care.
[06:35] <bioterror> seems like my wife is using some swap
[06:35] <bioterror> when I was young it was suggested to have swap in the beginning
[06:36] <bioterror> but you can do just 2048MB swap and rest for the /
[06:36] <sirscrubsalot> the thread post i was referring to was this : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-installation-40/should-i-put-the-swap-partition-at-the-beginning-or-the-end-of-the-drive-365793/#post1865222
[06:38] <sirscrubsalot> but anyways - ok i'll follow along with your suggestion /
[06:38] <bioterror> I think
[06:38] <bioterror> if you just click "use whole disk" or what was the option in installation, it will make you a proper sized swap and then just one partition for /
[06:40] <sirscrubsalot> well at the moment i have 512mb ram (my laptop takes 1gb max, the other 512mb was supposed to arrive the other day, but atlanta shut down because of the ice and my ram is still in kentucky via amazon) -
[06:40] <bioterror> oh poor americans and their winters ;)
[06:41] <sirscrubsalot> so i figured as you had mentioned and from the reading if i'm using the hibernate features, should double the ram -
[06:43] <bioterror> I use only suspend
[06:43] <bioterror> hibernating takes too long :D
[06:43] <sirscrubsalot> i don't have the winter problem, i'm originally from the north - so used to it; however - the rest of the south / one snowflake and the city goes into panic mode... although this recent storm was real bad because the city was completely unprepared for it and the temps never above freezing with sheets of ice everywhere. i'm a medical student and i was stuck at the hospital for 2 days / 1000's of accidents / so far we're on the 4th
[06:44] <bioterror> hahaha
[06:44] <bioterror> yeah, I can imagine
[06:44] <bioterror> a total chaos
[06:44] <sirscrubsalot> the suspend on this old thinkpad doesn't seem to want to wake up - google was saying it might be due to the apci / intel graphics card - i get a lot of screen flickering even with lubuntu when initially putting in the boot cd
[06:44] <bioterror> we get snow every year and our railroad company cant handle it
[06:45] <bioterror> sirscrubsalot, might be something with the kernel mode settings
[06:45] <bioterror> is it T40 or what?
[06:45] <bioterror> T23?
[06:45] <sirscrubsalot> bioterror - it gets worse because the people don't know how to drive in snow, let alone ice - they're driving like 60mph and all sorts of things
[06:45] <sirscrubsalot> it is a R31 -
[06:46] <sirscrubsalot> well, let's see if this fresh install will do something / i have it set to download updates and third party if needed - just need to sort the partition stuff
[06:47] <sirscrubsalot> this is my laptop : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:R31
[06:48] <sirscrubsalot> i tried running a few different kernels such as 2.6.35 / 2.6.36 / 2.6.7 and none of them worked with the flickering on boot and resuming from suspend - i can resume however from hibernate
[06:49] <bioterror> sounds weird
[06:49] <sirscrubsalot> i followed the kernel install instructions from here : http://www.ramoonus.nl/2010/10/linux-kernel-2-6-36-installation-guide-ubuntu-linux/
[06:50] <sirscrubsalot> in that order / there was a post or two on the ubuntu forums about people having this same issue on their particular laptops - it was an issue / changing kernels worked for some and didnt for others in regards to resume from suspend / i had to manually hard power off/reset mine
[06:55] <sirscrubsalot> for laughs - this is hou our streets are in atlanta right now : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjnF5k2HCGY
[06:56] <sirscrubsalot> the city didn't set a budget nor was it prepared for this
[07:27] <frankcox777> Hi everyone
[07:31] <frankcox777> I installed xournal , mypaint and jarnal and the results were surprising. I find the quality of process far superior to windows XP Pro TabletPC. I am unfamiliar with the newer widows .
[08:21] <enigmatic> hy there
[08:23] <enigmatic> i need some help pls
[08:23] <enigmatic> i just installed lubuntu on a laptop with homedir encrypted and after startup i get no programms in the menu nor will chromium start
[08:24] <enigmatic> @ menu ive only execute and logout
[08:24] <meetingology> enigmatic: Error: "menu" is not a valid command.
[08:25] <enigmatic> ?
[08:25] <bioterror> well
[08:25] <bioterror> there have been some problems with it
[08:25] <bioterror> I've learned my lessons with encryptions and I've not tried it with lubuntu
[08:25] <bioterror> but gotta think about that
[08:26] <bioterror> why you're not getting menu's
[08:26] <bioterror> can you start chromium from terminal?
[08:27] <enigmatic> cannot execute bin/bash/
[08:27] <enigmatic> too many open files in system
[08:27] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:27] <bioterror> somethings is not correct
[08:28] <bioterror> that's not normal
[08:29] <enigmatic> yeah seems pretty messed up
[08:29] <enigmatic> ill try with alternate install
[08:29] <bioterror> hmm
[08:29] <bioterror> try without encryption
[08:29] <bioterror> or do you really need it?
[08:30] <enigmatic> it calms my paranoid soul
[08:30] <bioterror> I would rather to suggest using tinfoil hat ;)
[08:31] <enigmatic> :)
[08:31] <bioterror> you're not only one raporting problems with home encryption
[08:32] <enigmatic> is complete encryption in alernate install integrated like in ubuntu ?
[08:32] <bioterror> my hdd blew full of bad sectors while doing backups ;)
[08:32] <bioterror> and I made a working image of the harddrive, but I couldnt access encrypted homefolder of mine
[08:33] <bioterror> so no encryption for me from now on ;)
[08:33] <enigmatic> hehe
[08:35] <enigmatic> bad thing is i cant even access console
[19:57] <mark76> Yo!
[20:09] <sirscrubsalot> hi i am confused as to which lubuntu i need - is 10,04 available for LTS? i tried installing 10.10 last night but i couldnt get my pcmcia cardbus and trackpointer to work on my laptop - this was pretty frustrating and i had to revert back to ubuntu 10.04 to get them working again
[20:10] <sirscrubsalot> i dont need all the heavieness that comes with the standard ubuntu and lubuntu was just great (i have a p3 1ghz 512mb ram 30gb notebook - thinkpad r31)
[20:13] <bioterror> sirscrubsalot, 10.10
[20:14] <bioterror> oh
[20:14] <bioterror> you had problems
[20:27] <enigmatic> the *.04 versions of*ubuntu are long term support
[20:28] <sirscrubsalot> hey again bioterror - hehe again* - yeah i had problems / i couldn't get those components to work - i have an exact page on thinkwiki which explains some options but i was not sure which option to use
[20:28] <enigmatic> you can change your ubuntu with synaptics to a lubuntu like
[20:30] <bioterror> enigmatic, lubuntu 10.04 is not officially LTS
[20:30] <bioterror> but as it's the only version supporting i586 chipset, it's technically a LTS
[20:30] <sirscrubsalot> enigmatic - yes i was looking for that as an option - do you mean installing LXDE on ubuntu 10.04?
[20:30] <bioterror> lubuntu devs have promised to support it
[20:31] <enigmatic> yeah and fluxbox maybe
[20:32] <enigmatic> i think ive seen a guideon their homepage for that
[20:32] <sirscrubsalot> i'm not doing anything high on this machine and just wanted a clean os to boot on here / just using firefox and open office and vlc player - i would have loved to stick with lubuntu but no finding of my wifi/trackpointer scroll not working were serious issues and i couldn't find a good answer after searching for hours.
[20:32] <bioterror> s/openoffice/libreoffice/ ;)
[20:32] <phillw> enigmatic: the dev team are committed to support the 10.04 Lubuntu as if it were an LTS, it's a lot of extra work for them but was decided very quickly when i586 support was dropped from the new kernel.
[20:33] <enigmatic> yeah its rather hard for such a small dist too provide that
[20:34] <sirscrubsalot> do certain things stop working if i install lxde on the ubuntu 10.04?
[20:35] <sirscrubsalot> eh i guess that was a somewhat vague question....
[20:35] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: my advice would be to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu
[20:36] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: that's why we write the instructions :P
[20:38] <sirscrubsalot> phillw - i installed Lubuntu 10.10* last night actually - couldn't find for the life of me on how to find my wireless wifi card and get my trackpointer scroll button to work on the thinkpad - the thinkwiki gave a bunch of options but had no idea which one would work for this particular distrobution
[20:39] <bioterror> synaptics is needed for the touchpad
[20:40] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: lubuntu is stripped to the core, there is even a low fat version of it available. The devs are really challenged to keep it within the target usage, else we will bloat as happened to Xubuntu.
[20:41] <sirscrubsalot> right phillw - i think that's great / only thing that was tough for me was trying to "google" how to get some components working - keywording "lubuntu" with the problem doesn't yield so many results - i wasn't sure if i can follow all the ubuntu commands and how to's for lubuntu
[20:42] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: lubuntu runs the ubuntu system as its core, so any how to for ubuntu will work on it.
[20:44] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: if it screams that it wants all of gnome and it's dependancies, don't do it!
[20:45] <sirscrubsalot> re: the latter "gnome" for example - my trackpointer fix was based on that -
[20:46] <sirscrubsalot> it was on this page : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Configuration_using_udev_and_HAL
[20:47] <sirscrubsalot> there were so many ways on how to do it on that page - *but / i didn't know which one was going to work for Lubuntu - my mouse clicking and movement works / just not vertical scrolling
[20:48] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: if you drag in all the gnome library, it will eat resources. If it does not ask for too many, then it will be fine.
[20:49] <phillw> bioterror: do you recall the scrolling problem?
[20:49] <bioterror> what
[20:50] <sirscrubsalot> it's specific for this laptop phillw -
[20:50] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: okies.
[20:50] <sirscrubsalot> the link i pointed to you was for thinkpads and linux
[20:51] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: as I do not have a thinkpad, you are the one to tell me :)
[20:51] <sirscrubsalot> there were other options there maybe you could tell me which one would work rather than installing the gnome package that they mentioned (and if i recall - that didn't work so well)
[20:51] <bioterror> my wife has stinkpad
[20:51] <bioterror> trackpoint works
[20:51] <bioterror> she can move the mouse :D
[20:51] <enigmatic> the ibm nipple
[20:52] <bioterror> "clit" as we call it :D
[20:52] <bioterror> acually you can change different kind of red thingies on it
[20:52] <phillw> ;swearing | bioterror
[20:52] <bioterror> I like the round ones
[20:52] <bioterror> !swearing | phillw
[20:52] <enigmatic> yeah not everybody knows what a thinkpad is but when you say the notebooks with that thingy for sentual mousing everybody knows
[20:53] <phillw> !language
[20:53] <sirscrubsalot> hehe phillw - if u see that link / there is a scrolling section - i have no idea what any of those commands do or if it is even applicable to me -
[20:53] <phillw> bioterror: soz, I'm too used to DragonEyes
[20:53] <bioterror> seems so
[20:53] <enigmatic> oh restricted channel :P
[20:54] <bioterror> enigmatic, this channel is being logged
[20:54] <bioterror> what you say, goes to internet
[20:54] <bioterror> :D
[20:54] <bioterror> what goes to internet, stays on internet
[20:54] <phillw> enigmatic: we allow youngsters on, we also have a ubuntu logging bot on here.
[20:54] <enigmatic> yeah good ^^ for all the familys that have too much time
[20:54] <sirscrubsalot> in the contents section - upper left of the page (point 1 / or 2 (which was gnome - this method worked for my ubuntu 10.04) - have no idea about point 3/4/5/6 options -
[20:55] <sirscrubsalot> the link again was : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Configuration_using_udev_and_HAL
[20:56] <sirscrubsalot> option #2 worked on regular ubuntu 10.04 but it is gnome i believe like you mentioned / there were xorf methods there too - just not sure
[20:56] <phillw> enigmatic: you have an invite
[20:56] <enigmatic> hehe offtopic thx
[20:57] <phillw> bioterror: as Mrs terror has a thinkpad, would you be kind enough to assist sirscrubsalot
[20:58] <bioterror> phillw, well, not today. I'm totally too tired to concentrate on these
[20:59] <bioterror> I can say that I dont understand at all what's the problem with trackpoint
[20:59] <bioterror> does the mouse cursor move at all or what
[21:04] <sirscrubsalot> bioterror - the mouse pointer moves and i can left and right click fine - it's the middle button that does not work
[21:05] <bioterror> third button
[21:05] <sirscrubsalot> i scroll with the red button in the middle
[21:05] <bioterror> you can paste?
[21:05] <bioterror> cant
[21:05] <sirscrubsalot> yes i can paste
[21:06] <sirscrubsalot> and copy i just can't vertically scroll - to do that i just jog the red button up or down while pressing button 2 (middle) to go up/down web pages for example - that function is lost on all the ubuntu distros
[21:06] <sirscrubsalot> there was a workaround on that link i provided from the thinkpad wiki for linux users
[21:06] <bioterror> ahhh
[21:07] <sirscrubsalot> i got it to work for ubuntu 10.10 and 10,04 but not for lubuntu
[21:07] <bioterror> middle button is button #3
[21:08] <sirscrubsalot> ok button 3 - this is what worked for me on 10.04 - http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#GPointing_Device_Settings
[21:08] <bioterror> well
[21:08] <sirscrubsalot> so i did a sudo apt-get install gpointing device settings in terminal and it worked
[21:08] <bioterror> doesnt work in here
[21:08] <bioterror> I tried with chromium
[21:09] <sirscrubsalot> so that page offered some other options like setting it up in xorf.conf - which isn't on the machine
[21:09] <bioterror> my dell has too trackpoint, but I'm using pad
[21:09] <bioterror> you can make yourself xorg.conf
[21:09] <bioterror> I should write it to my FAQ
[21:10] <sirscrubsalot> Option          "EmulateWheel"          "on"
[21:10] <bioterror> hi zkriesse
[21:10] <sirscrubsalot>        Option          "EmulateWheelButton"    "2"
[21:10] <sirscrubsalot> something like that code but to put it where in lubuntu - i have no idea
[21:11] <bioterror> you have to kill your X
[21:11] <bioterror> log into TTY1 with ctrl+alt+f1
[21:11] <bioterror> login
[21:11] <bioterror> sudo service lxdm stop
[21:11] <bioterror> sudo Xorg -configure
[21:12] <bioterror> sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:12] <sirscrubsalot> and it will generate a conf file? in /etc/x11/ ?
[21:12] <bioterror> sudo service lxdm start
[21:15] <bioterror> maybe ctrl+alt+f7 after starting lxdm
[21:15] <bioterror> :D
[21:15] <bioterror> but that was obvious
[21:17] <sirscrubsalot> to you obviously :) thanks - i will copy this down and cross my fingers - i have to reinstall lubuntu first though -
[21:17] <bioterror> as you wish :)
[21:17] <sirscrubsalot> right now i am staring at 10.04 ubuntu on the thinkpad -
[21:18] <sirscrubsalot> what's the command to see what wireless adapter i have - and hopefully with that info from ubuntu terminal - i can install it for lubuntu maybe?
[21:18] <bioterror> lspci
[21:18] <bioterror> if you have usb dongle, lsusb
[21:19] <sirscrubsalot> it's a pcmcia card - it was detected fine and wifi networks showed up ok (in ubuntu 10.04) this adapter did not pick up or become recognized in lubuntu - it says my netowrk controller is : atheros communications inc. ar5008 wireless network adapter
[21:20] <sirscrubsalot> ethernet worked on lubuntu just no wifi card detection - with the info i just gave you - is there something i can type to activate that card in lubuntu?
[21:21] <sirscrubsalot> if these two things work - then i can uninstall this and reuse lubuntu i guess :)
[21:21] <bioterror> do you see it when you type: ifconfig
[21:22] <sirscrubsalot> in ubuntu 10.04 terminal - yes it shows wlan0 and my ip
[21:22] <bioterror> on the paper there shouldnt be any difference between ubuntu and lubuntu
[21:23] <bioterror> as they both share the same kernel
[21:23] <bioterror> it's just cosmetics that's different
[21:23] <bioterror> the core underneath the eye candy is same
[21:24] <sirscrubsalot> ok i'm trying to understand and follow that more as you mentioned - so i see with ifconfig : wlan0 / lo / eth0
[21:24] <bioterror> and wlan0 is not working, right?
[21:25] <sirscrubsalot> i don't have lubuntu reinstalled yet* (i'm showing you output from ubuntu 10.04)
[21:25] <sirscrubsalot> so that i can be possibly be prepared to do whatever it is i need to once installed
[21:26] <sirscrubsalot> to detect/install that card on lubuntu -
[21:29] <bioterror> does the light blink with lubuntu on that pcmcia card
[21:30] <sirscrubsalot> no it didn't bioterror
[21:30] <bioterror> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[21:30] <sirscrubsalot> what does that do
[21:30] <bioterror> if you can see it
[21:31] <bioterror> it tells to card to get up
[21:31] <bioterror> :D
[21:31] <sirscrubsalot> again - i have to install it first (i'm on ubuntu 10.04 right now)
[21:31] <bioterror> actually!
[21:31] <bioterror> ACTUALLY
[21:31] <sirscrubsalot> and i'm typing from a friend's laptop right now
[21:31] <bioterror> I just remembered, some wlan supports had been removed from newer kernels
[21:31] <bioterror> and older did support
[21:31] <bioterror> or was it just gentoo
[21:31] <bioterror> dunno
[21:32] <sirscrubsalot> it's a d-link wireless N cardbus adapter (probably from the last 2 years max)
[21:32] <bioterror> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Ralink_RT2870 yeah something like that
[21:32] <enigmatic> too new is never good for opensource
[21:32] <bioterror> so boot the live mediam
[21:33] <bioterror> and check if you can see the card with lspci
[21:33] <sirscrubsalot> ok one second - let me get that cd - btw / it is 10.10 lubuntu live cd (i didn't download the 10.04)
[21:35] <sirscrubsalot> thanks for your patience and help bioterror - if i can get these working / i am good to go and can start working back on my class work - i lost almost 12 hours trying to get this working (reinstalling/uninstalling /googling)
[21:35] <enigmatic> yeah complete system rebuilding is more fun then class work
[21:36] <bioterror> ;D
[21:36] <enigmatic> oh in 20h is the deadline. lets install lubuntu!
[21:37] <sirscrubsalot> especially if you're in the field - i'm a 4th year medical student and this is definitely not my area / i've used windows all my life since '95
[21:37] <bioterror> and stay up whole night!
[21:37] <sirscrubsalot> no that happened last night and i didnt go to bed until 7am today
[21:37] <bioterror> but good night
[21:37] <bioterror> oh
[21:37] <bioterror> I forgot to load my phones battery
[21:38] <bioterror> :D
[21:38] <bioterror> charge
[21:38] <enigmatic> if you have some time left try linux from scratch :P
[21:38] <bioterror> or gentoo or or or
[21:38] <bioterror> sourcemage
[21:38] <bioterror> :D
[21:39] <sirscrubsalot> i wish / this is a demanding year for me - i'm finally applying for work this summer...
[21:39] <enigmatic> gentoo is also good
[21:40] <sirscrubsalot> in my situation and lack thereof in experience / ubuntu had the largest community online support for the general pc user such as myself
[21:40] <phillw> sirscrubsalot: can you please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat, I'm going to send you an invite now
[21:41] <sirscrubsalot> ok phillw - i'm about to rediscuss with bioterror the livecd lubuntu demo
[21:45] <enigmatic> fr'sirscrubsalot, gentoo and lfs are distros that require alot of work in comparison with ubuntu :P
[21:47] <sirscrubsalot> what are lf's enigmatic ?
[21:48] <enigmatic> linux from scratch
[21:48] <enigmatic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_from_scratch
[21:49] <sirscrubsalot> what level of background would one need to work in a lubuntu environment versus one using standard ubuntu ?
[21:49] <sirscrubsalot> meaning from someone from a pre=entry level as myself
[21:49] <enigmatic> idealy its the same
[21:49] <enigmatic> i jsut tryed lubuntu yesterday
[21:50] <enigmatic> and it doasnt work yet :P
[21:50] <enigmatic> but today i didnt work on it
[21:50] <sirscrubsalot> one thing i did notice was that they both install almost the same -
[21:51] <enigmatic> youmabe should read how the main distros are different
[21:51] <sirscrubsalot> yes it's something to deeply appreciate though - it is very interesting /
[21:52] <enigmatic> if youre german try ubuntuusers.de  maybe there a english version also
[21:53] <sirscrubsalot> nope on the otherside of the atlantic
[21:54] <sirscrubsalot> have you tried linux-mint lxde verion 9 isadora?
[21:55] <enigmatic> i wanted but they also dont have easy encryption ^^
[21:55] <sirscrubsalot> hey bioterror - are you around?
[21:56] <sirscrubsalot> i just put the lubuntu live cd in -
[21:59] <sirscrubsalot> the wifi is detected now bioterror - thanks
[21:59] <sirscrubsalot> enigmatic - what's the purpose of this keyring?
[22:15] <mark76> Who was I talking to yesterday?