Volkodav | hmm still not booting - Iwill try to reinstall grub I guess - I wonder if it's just me ? | 00:23 |
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Volkodav | well grub reinstall worked - I guess the latest upgrade corrupted it some way | 02:19 |
litropy | K. back up and running after upgrading to 11.04. First impression: Wow! Did I read somewhere it doesn't use X? | 04:35 |
rww | litropy: no, you read somewhere that at some point in the middle to far future, it won't | 06:31 |
rww | 11.04, and several releases after that, most like, will use Xorg. | 06:32 |
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gnomefreak | we dropped ubuntu-desktop already? | 13:32 |
gnomefreak | where is mvo when you need him :( | 13:38 |
gnomefreak | you install maverick(gnome) install nvidia-current irssi irss-scripts run dist-upgrade it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and add a crap load of kde packages/libs anyone else find that weird? | 14:04 |
Pici | gnomefreak: Doesn't aptitude have an option of telling you why a package is being removed? | 14:07 |
gnomefreak | Pici: not too consered about remove of ubuntu-desktop its more of why kde apps/libs are being installed | 14:11 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 14:12 |
gnomefreak | install 10.10(gnome) irssi,irssi-scripts, and nvidia-current would install kde anything on dist-upgrade. using update-manager it stops on ubuntu-desktop | 14:12 |
gnomefreak | hi BluesKaj | 14:12 |
BluesKaj | hi gnomefreak , Pici | 14:13 |
Pici | heya | 14:13 |
BluesKaj | so far so good here , altho booting on my other natty pc seems to have more probs than this one , altho the other one is older | 14:14 |
BluesKaj | using kde on both | 14:14 |
gnomefreak | here is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/553608/ | 14:15 |
gnomefreak | this really bothers me. i dont want a mixed install :( | 14:15 |
BluesKaj | gnomefreak, well, I have alot of gtk stuff ta\hat seems to be required for browsers like FF | 14:17 |
BluesKaj | or sp it seems | 14:17 |
BluesKaj | so\ | 14:17 |
gnomefreak | if you used the kubuntu-firefox-installer it shouldnt install many gtk stiff if any | 14:18 |
BluesKaj | kde font settings for example won't apply in FF unless I enable the gtk fonts in system settings | 14:18 |
BluesKaj | not talking about webpage settings , i mean toolbar, menubar and bookmarks toolbars | 14:20 |
gnomefreak | BluesKaj: yesh that may require gtk stuff | 14:20 |
BluesKaj | FF automatically upgraded FF4 beta when I netinstalled natty | 14:21 |
BluesKaj | upgraded to FF4 is what I mean | 14:21 |
gnomefreak | yep it should be alpha 8 as default in natty | 14:21 |
BluesKaj | is it really possible to have a pure gnome/gtk OS or even a pure kde these days ...seems not to me | 14:25 |
gnomefreak | should be, they should not have to mix. im guessing apt-url-kde is causing my issue but not real sure | 14:26 |
gnomefreak | it wants to install it | 14:26 |
* gnomefreak sonders if removeing ubuntu-desktop will not allow me to boot into unity desktop and/or classic desktop | 14:28 | |
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gnomefreak | i think The following NEW packages will be installed: akonadi-server apturl-kde | 14:29 |
gnomefreak | is causing my issues all of them | 14:29 |
gnomefreak | lol aptitude nor update-manager will upgrade anything. i ran out of time to screw with this for now. | 14:36 |
gnomefreak | seems OO.o and ubuntu-desktop want to remove most of gtk updates | 14:42 |
BluesKaj | gnomefreak, do you have the ubuntu ppa urls handy ? | 14:57 |
BluesKaj | I'm thinking of running a separate gnome/ubuntu partition | 14:59 |
gnomefreak | BluesKaj: afaik there is no gnome PPAs just install ubuntu-desktop but it seems broken due to depends. i have to go, i should be back later | 15:02 |
genii-around | dist-upgrade just now (Natty, KDE): plasma-widget-menubar kept back .. Depends: appmenu-qt , not installable ... apt-cache policy appmenu-qt: Candidate: (none) | 15:06 |
BluesKaj | genii-around, I net upgraded kubuntu without any trouble. I think gnome seems to have some issues tho | 15:43 |
genii-around | hm | 15:45 |
genii-around | BluesKaj: 32 or 64 bit? | 15:45 |
BluesKaj | 32 | 15:46 |
BluesKaj | genii-around, been running 32 bit for a while now altho the cpu is 64bit dual core and 3G RAM , so I don't 64 bit is of much benefit to this setup | 15:47 |
genii-around | BluesKaj: I'm running 64bit... upgrade went OK ( didn't chunk out or so, just held back that package) | 15:47 |
BluesKaj | don't think | 15:47 |
genii-around | I find it odd though that no package candidate at all (not even a previous one) for the appmenu-qt | 15:49 |
BluesKaj | ok genii-around , I had a couple of packages held back as well, but it didn't create any porbs | 15:49 |
BluesKaj | appmenu-qt ? that sounds like a kde-libs app | 15:51 |
BluesKaj | or am I off the mark? | 15:52 |
DJKorbit | is there a python lib to parse .dsc files? i can't seem to find one | 15:54 |
DJKorbit | should i code one myself? | 15:54 |
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zerwas | Is there any way to get Natty with Unity to work in VMware? | 18:11 |
WaltherFI | How stable is Natty atm? | 18:13 |
WaltherFI | also, is there a natty build for ubuntustudio already? | 18:13 |
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charlie-tca | WaltherFI: it is not even alpha2 yet. It is not stable | 18:23 |
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coz_ | so have the updates broken anything today? | 19:50 |
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Volkodav | Does grub2 recognize the FreeBSD install correct? Anybody tried ? | 20:42 |
nit-wit | Volkodav, FreeBSD is lilo is this correct | 20:45 |
Volkodav | Somebody mentioned that grub2 can do it too - I did it years ago it chainloaded | 20:49 |
Volkodav | with legacy grub | 20:51 |
genii-around | Volkodav: grub2 on my karmic install recognised my freebsd 5 and set it up ok | 20:53 |
Volkodav | it was my first install too - 5.4 - thanks genii-around did you install FreeBSD installer in / ? | 20:54 |
genii-around | Volkodav: I had FBSD on separate drive, not a subpartition of the same drive my linux was on. grub2 just chainloaded the BSD loader | 20:55 |
Volkodav | genii-around: I do not think it makes much difference if any at all | 20:56 |
Volkodav | grub2 still probes all around partitions included as far as I understand | 20:56 |
genii-around | Volkodav: On the netbook it finds my MeeGo install as "Unknown linux distribution on /dev/sdb1" kind of thing | 20:58 |
Volkodav | genii-around: does it boot it though ? as long as it boots it the name calling is not that of importance | 21:07 |
genii-around | Volkodav: In the case of my MeeGo, it bypassed the bootloader on sdb and made it's own entry directly to load the vmlinuz . | 21:09 |
genii-around | ( which was problemmatic in that kernel upgrades in Meego update it's own bootloader but then you have to run again update-grub to make new entries for those) | 21:10 |
Volkodav | What loader does Meego use ? | 21:18 |
genii-around | Volkodav: Apologies on lag, work needed me. It uses extlinux which operates something like the old syslinux way of bootstrapping from a FAT filesystem | 21:51 |
Volkodav | OK | 21:52 |
WaltherFI | Any ways to dynamically change names of files in a folder from random.jpg 's to 001-999.jpg or similar? | 22:28 |
BUGabundo | o/ | 22:59 |
Ian_Corne | BUGabundo: ^^ | 23:43 |
kklimonda | WaltherFI: yes - but you would have to write a script | 23:43 |
BUGabundo | oh look | 23:43 |
BUGabundo | both Ian_Corne AND kklimonda | 23:43 |
BUGabundo | how are you buds? | 23:43 |
kklimonda | o/ BUGabundo | 23:43 |
Ian_Corne | good good | 23:44 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: well, I'm still alive! that does count for something ;) | 23:44 |
BUGabundo | ofc | 23:46 |
BUGabundo | what have you been up to? | 23:46 |
BUGabundo | we haven't chatted in a long long time :( | 23:46 |
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