[00:23] hmm still not booting - Iwill try to reinstall grub I guess - I wonder if it's just me ? [02:19] well grub reinstall worked - I guess the latest upgrade corrupted it some way [04:35] K. back up and running after upgrading to 11.04. First impression: Wow! Did I read somewhere it doesn't use X? [06:31] litropy: no, you read somewhere that at some point in the middle to far future, it won't [06:32] 11.04, and several releases after that, most like, will use Xorg. === mrsun is now known as MrSunshine [13:32] we dropped ubuntu-desktop already? [13:38] where is mvo when you need him :( [14:04] you install maverick(gnome) install nvidia-current irssi irss-scripts run dist-upgrade it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and add a crap load of kde packages/libs anyone else find that weird? [14:07] gnomefreak: Doesn't aptitude have an option of telling you why a package is being removed? [14:11] Pici: not too consered about remove of ubuntu-desktop its more of why kde apps/libs are being installed [14:12] Hey folks [14:12] install 10.10(gnome) irssi,irssi-scripts, and nvidia-current would install kde anything on dist-upgrade. using update-manager it stops on ubuntu-desktop [14:12] hi BluesKaj [14:13] hi gnomefreak , Pici [14:13] heya [14:14] so far so good here , altho booting on my other natty pc seems to have more probs than this one , altho the other one is older [14:14] using kde on both [14:15] here is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/553608/ [14:15] this really bothers me. i dont want a mixed install :( [14:17] gnomefreak, well, I have alot of gtk stuff ta\hat seems to be required for browsers like FF [14:17] or sp it seems [14:17] so\ [14:18] if you used the kubuntu-firefox-installer it shouldnt install many gtk stiff if any [14:18] kde font settings for example won't apply in FF unless I enable the gtk fonts in system settings [14:20] not talking about webpage settings , i mean toolbar, menubar and bookmarks toolbars [14:20] BluesKaj: yesh that may require gtk stuff [14:21] FF automatically upgraded FF4 beta when I netinstalled natty [14:21] upgraded to FF4 is what I mean [14:21] yep it should be alpha 8 as default in natty [14:25] is it really possible to have a pure gnome/gtk OS or even a pure kde these days ...seems not to me [14:26] should be, they should not have to mix. im guessing apt-url-kde is causing my issue but not real sure [14:26] it wants to install it [14:28] * gnomefreak sonders if removeing ubuntu-desktop will not allow me to boot into unity desktop and/or classic desktop === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre [14:29] i think The following NEW packages will be installed: akonadi-server apturl-kde [14:29] is causing my issues all of them [14:36] lol aptitude nor update-manager will upgrade anything. i ran out of time to screw with this for now. [14:42] seems OO.o and ubuntu-desktop want to remove most of gtk updates [14:57] gnomefreak, do you have the ubuntu ppa urls handy ? [14:59] I'm thinking of running a separate gnome/ubuntu partition [15:02] BluesKaj: afaik there is no gnome PPAs just install ubuntu-desktop but it seems broken due to depends. i have to go, i should be back later [15:06] dist-upgrade just now (Natty, KDE): plasma-widget-menubar kept back .. Depends: appmenu-qt , not installable ... apt-cache policy appmenu-qt: Candidate: (none) [15:43] genii-around, I net upgraded kubuntu without any trouble. I think gnome seems to have some issues tho [15:45] hm [15:45] BluesKaj: 32 or 64 bit? [15:46] 32 [15:47] genii-around, been running 32 bit for a while now altho the cpu is 64bit dual core and 3G RAM , so I don't 64 bit is of much benefit to this setup [15:47] BluesKaj: I'm running 64bit... upgrade went OK ( didn't chunk out or so, just held back that package) [15:47] don't think [15:49] I find it odd though that no package candidate at all (not even a previous one) for the appmenu-qt [15:49] ok genii-around , I had a couple of packages held back as well, but it didn't create any porbs [15:51] appmenu-qt ? that sounds like a kde-libs app [15:52] or am I off the mark? [15:54] is there a python lib to parse .dsc files? i can't seem to find one [15:54] should i code one myself? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === yofel_ is now known as yofel === evilvish is now known as vish === vish is now known as evilvish [18:11] Is there any way to get Natty with Unity to work in VMware? [18:13] How stable is Natty atm? [18:13] also, is there a natty build for ubuntustudio already? === IdleOne changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 [18:23] WaltherFI: it is not even alpha2 yet. It is not stable === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez === MichealH is now known as zz_MichealH [19:50] so have the updates broken anything today? === zz_MichealH is now known as MichealH [20:42] Does grub2 recognize the FreeBSD install correct? Anybody tried ? [20:45] Volkodav, FreeBSD is lilo is this correct [20:49] Somebody mentioned that grub2 can do it too - I did it years ago it chainloaded [20:51] with legacy grub [20:53] Volkodav: grub2 on my karmic install recognised my freebsd 5 and set it up ok [20:54] it was my first install too - 5.4 - thanks genii-around did you install FreeBSD installer in / ? [20:55] Volkodav: I had FBSD on separate drive, not a subpartition of the same drive my linux was on. grub2 just chainloaded the BSD loader [20:56] genii-around: I do not think it makes much difference if any at all [20:56] grub2 still probes all around partitions included as far as I understand [20:58] Volkodav: On the netbook it finds my MeeGo install as "Unknown linux distribution on /dev/sdb1" kind of thing [21:07] genii-around: does it boot it though ? as long as it boots it the name calling is not that of importance [21:09] Volkodav: In the case of my MeeGo, it bypassed the bootloader on sdb and made it's own entry directly to load the vmlinuz . [21:10] ( which was problemmatic in that kernel upgrades in Meego update it's own bootloader but then you have to run again update-grub to make new entries for those) [21:18] What loader does Meego use ? [21:51] Volkodav: Apologies on lag, work needed me. It uses extlinux which operates something like the old syslinux way of bootstrapping from a FAT filesystem [21:52] OK [22:28] Any ways to dynamically change names of files in a folder from random.jpg 's to 001-999.jpg or similar? [22:59] o/ [23:43] BUGabundo: ^^ [23:43] WaltherFI: yes - but you would have to write a script [23:43] oh look [23:43] both Ian_Corne AND kklimonda [23:43] how are you buds? [23:43] o/ BUGabundo [23:44] good good [23:44] BUGabundo: well, I'm still alive! that does count for something ;) [23:46] ofc [23:46] what have you been up to? [23:46] we haven't chatted in a long long time :(