[00:00] And for the headphones you might be able to use this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1654125 [00:05] I hope you'll manage from here, I've no more time to spare I'm afraid yax51. Maybe someone else can help you if you've got further questions :) [00:05] ChrisDruif: thanks!! [00:05] Your welcome :) === MrAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine [00:34] what does IRC stand for [00:36] can some on help me [00:36] or just say something [00:36] im really confused [00:36] Internet Relay Channel I believe... [00:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irc [00:36] ok thanks [00:37] sorry i just joined this and download XChat [00:37] so im a little lost lol [00:37] ChrisDruif: I thought it was Chat. [00:37] It's alright :) [00:37] emer: Welcome. :D [00:37] According to Wikipedia I'm right :) [00:37] Lol [00:37] Oops....not :P [00:38] * JackyAlcine SCORE! :D [00:38] Alright...Internet Relay Chat O:-) [00:38] Anyways...he could read all about it on wikipedia :D [00:53] Hi [00:54] Is there a way to start services in specific order while booting ?For example [00:54] I need the following services to be started in the below order [00:54] 1)openvpn --> This should start first [00:54] 2)networking --> This should start second [00:54] 3)shorewall --> This should start third [00:54] Please suugest/guide [00:54] kaushal: Booting? or logging on? [00:54] suggest* [00:54] Booting [00:55] hm. I'm not too sure, sounds like a upstart job to me. [00:55] ok [00:55] You could make a .sh file and add it to the scheduler. [00:55] Any examples please ? [00:56] erm, you can just add dependencies? [00:56] yofel: are you referring to me ? [00:56] meaning for networking: 'start on started openvpn ...' where openvpn needs to be an upstart service too [00:56] kaushal: yes [00:57] ok [00:57] still not understood [00:57] kaushal: look at the startup files in /etc/init - everyone has a 'start on ' statement telling it when to start [00:57] kaushal: so you can tell the services to only start if the other one has already been started [00:57] Idk whats wrong with my computer I use ubuntu 10.10 and my screen just goes black and its unresponsive. what do i do? [00:57] ah ok [00:58] yofel: so how do i make use of upstart ? [00:58] not sure i understand that [00:59] kaushal: why do you want to start openvpn before networking actually? [00:59] since openvpn is configured in bridge mode [00:59] and i want the interface br0 to be up [01:00] hm.... meh, openvpn still uses sys-v-init [01:00] this is a bit tricky then :S [01:01] ok [01:01] As JackyAlcine suggested ? [01:01] make use of scheduler ? [01:02] you could try, but since networking is started by upstart I'm pretty sure it'll be started before openvpn [01:02] or can i put that in /etc/rc.local ? [01:02] sure, but rc.local is run pretty late [01:02] oh ok [01:03] so how do i disable networking from upstart [01:04] modify /etc/init/networking.conf and probably network-manager.conf too (commenting the start on stuff out should be fine) [01:04] I'm not sure if anything depends on networking being up though [01:04] ok [01:04] what about putting it in .sh file and invoked by scheduler ? [01:05] how is that done [01:05] no idea [01:05] JackyAlcine: please suggest [01:05] yofel: Help me understand about upstart and sys-v-init [01:05] so I have 10.04 [01:06] well, sys-v-init is what we used before karmic, with scripts in /etc/init.d/, upstart is what we use since then with config files in /etc/init [01:06] ok [01:07] in sys-v-init you could define an order how services had to be started, in upstart you say what a service needs before it can be started [01:07] great [01:07] upstart is faster because it can start things in parallel, but a bit harder to manage [01:08] so on 10.04 is it upstart or sys-v-init ? [01:08] I believe its both [01:09] mix, there are still scripts with sys-v-init, but upstart config files and sys-v-init script can't really talk to each other [01:09] so upstart will start it's services and at the same time start sys-v-init runlevel 2 [01:10] ok [01:10] so how would i handle this specific issue ? [01:11] i think most folk just open the port in the firewall for VPN or SSH [01:11] and start everything at boot [01:12] ok [01:12] so can i disable sys-v-init ? [01:12] if i can do it using upstart ? [01:15] yofel: Thanks [01:15] will try it out [01:15] well.. [01:15] holstein: Thanks you too [01:16] yofel: yeah please suggest [01:16] you could disable the sys-v-init script and write an upstart config file and start openvpn there and then make networking depend on it, but I fear you'll have to look up how to do that yourself [01:16] ok, the headphone jack isn't working, I've scoured the forums, but havent found anything to help [01:17] I wonder though if you can't resolve this in some other way... [01:17] my mic doesn't want to work either..... [01:17] I don't know what else to do.....I've re-installed the drivers and everything, but nothing seems to have any effect [01:26] yay! go my headphone working again!now for the mic [01:33] WOOT WOOT!!!! [01:34] solved my audio issues...now, is there a way to add a command line to a program in such a way that I dont need to run it from the terminal everytime? [01:34] yax51: what command? [01:34] you could make a new launcher with the whole command in it [01:34] holstein: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so [01:35] to flip my cam [01:35] yax51: congrats by the way :) [01:35] holstein: thanks! Ive been trying for months to get my mic fixed [01:37] holstein so how do I get the command line working with the launcher? [01:37] i would just put the whole thing in a new launcher [01:37] wherever [01:37] on the desktop or in the menu or both [01:38] so I create a new launcher, and just add the command line I want, and hit ok? [01:39] in theory [01:39] test it [01:39] you can add whatever command you want to a launcher [01:39] i used to have one called alsa_fix ;) [01:40] hmmm its says it failed to execute child process [01:41] ok lets pretend I'm a noob, and walk through this step by step ;) [01:41] im not sure exactly what that command is or does [01:41] but its do-able [01:41] need some command line fu :) [01:41] it flips my cm so it'snot upside down [01:41] right [01:41] i mean, what its 'doing' [01:41] not the result ;) [01:42] i dont know what LD_PRELOAD is [01:42] .so is some kind of plugin right? [01:43] can you put that in some dir for the program? [01:43] some autoload dir? [01:43] I'm not sure either, but my guess is that its loading the v4l1compat.so [01:43] I could if I knew how [01:43] what app is it? [01:44] VLC ? [01:44] the app is skype [01:44] hmmm [01:44] so, you start skype, and then put that in the command line? [01:45] in the terminal I r: [01:45] run the command line as such [01:45] LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype [01:45] right [01:45] im trying to download ubuntu 10.10 netbook 1386 but my internet speed keeps slowing down dropping a .1 Kb everysecond [01:45] after you launch skype? [01:45] yax51, can you use the browse to get to user bin, or sbin thats probably where the launcher is. [01:45] nit-wit: i like that [01:45] yax51: ^^ [01:45] but everything else is at normal speed [01:46] holstein, heh ; [01:46] good call [01:46] nit-wit: o/ [01:46] 0hols [01:46] emer: i would stop it [01:46] and try again [01:46] ok [01:46] maybe you'll get one another mirrot [01:46] mirror* [01:46] UNLESS [01:46] holstein, trying to type and eat haggen daz is difficult, [01:46] you're almost done [01:46] then, just wait in out [01:46] nit-wit: hehe [01:47] holstein: works, thank you im a newbie [01:47] emer: welcome :) [01:48] nit-wit: that doesn't seem to work either [01:48] maybe its because skype isnt running [01:49] but if I'm trying to add the command line to skype without having to open a terminal to do it, it shouldnt be running [01:49] yax51, is there a menu icon? [01:49] yax51: depends on when you run it in the terminal [01:49] is it after you launch skype? [01:49] or before? [01:50] before [01:50] hmmm [01:50] nit-wit: no [01:50] ok, so I right click on the desktop, and create new launcher, right? [01:50] thats where i would start [01:51] and in 'command' you put that command [01:51] ok, now type: application, application in terminal or location? [01:51] application in terminal [01:52] that should be the same as if you type that into a terminal and hit enter [01:53] ok, but I get the error that says "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal. Faled to execute child process "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so" (no such file or directory) [01:54] but if I run the command from the terminal like this: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype [01:55] it opens skype with the cam working properly as it should [01:56] right [01:56] i get the same error.. [01:56] hmmm [01:56] but not when I create the launcher.... [01:57] but the launcher is supposed to take that command and automatically run it as if it was in the terminal correct? [01:58] thats the way its worked for me [01:58] let me try some things [02:07] yax51: OK [02:07] so, copy LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so [02:07] to a file [02:07] name it whatever.sh [02:07] make it executable [02:07] you can right-click and go to properties [02:08] THEN, in the laucher, you can navigate to that .sh file [02:09] i dont get errors running that [02:10] not sure what that command is doing to my system though ;) [02:10] join #lubuntu [02:10] it's flipping your cam 180 [02:10] great [02:12] sweet! it's working now!! [02:13] now computer is awesome again!!! [02:13] :) [02:13] thanks!! [02:13] yup [02:19] 0 [02:24] what does it mean if you have "voice" from ChanServ [02:24] if you dont [02:25] i wont see you talk [02:25] in the channel [02:25] you'd type and no one would hear you [02:25] oh [02:25] holstein: not true [02:25] ? [02:25] yeah? [02:25] do tell [02:26] Depends on the channel, it's essentially a half step between a user and an operator of the channel, hang on I'll find a link to explain it better [02:26] because egossett didnt get voice [02:26] half-op ? [02:26] i thought that was half-ops [02:28] emer: is egossett registered ? [02:28] no [02:29] yes u do get voice if you are a half-op [02:29] i think [02:29] its a good idea to register [02:29] im not half-op [02:30] Hm there are lots on channel settings but no detail on voicing [02:31] some channel flags require registration to get voice [02:31] didnt think this was one of those channels [02:33] To get voice in here you have to be a UBT member [02:33] * holstein is not an ubt member [02:33] UBT? [02:33] Ubuntu-Beginners-Team [02:33] Ubuntu Beginners Team!!! What whaaaaaa! [02:33] rep-the-set! [02:33] OK, regaurdless of the term [02:34] half-ops or voice [02:34] how that emer 's friend type in here? [02:34] how can* [02:34] egossett < [02:34] Everyone should be able to type in here. [02:34] yup, *should* [02:34] i think having voice means that ur cool [02:35] paultag: any funky settings I don't know about (I'm only fairly new-ish here myself) [02:35] how do i boot my USB drive with ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition [02:36] i already tried booting it from its boot menu [02:37] emer: that will depend on your computer [02:37] the bios [02:37] i have a toshiba NB 255 [02:37] cool [02:38] head_victim: humm? [02:38] hey paultag [02:38] head_victim: UBT members get voice [02:38] heyya holstein [02:38] head_victim: that's about it [02:38] egossett is not able to type in here [02:38] ... really? [02:38] yup [02:38] so says emer [02:38] nhandler: prod [02:39] Yes? [02:39] nhandler: can you use your freenode staffism to see why egossett can not talk? I can't see anything [02:39] holstein: i restarted my computer and when the first menu popped up i choose choose system boot then i chose my USB drive then i says "boot: " [02:39] and i dont know what do do anfter that [02:39] emer: how did you create the bootable USB ? [02:40] go to ubuntu.com and download the version of ubuntu you want [02:40] egossett: Can you PM me the message you get when you try to send messages to this channel? [02:40] create a startup disk [02:40] and since i have a netbook [02:40] right [02:41] i need to create one with a USB [02:41] paultag: just thought I'd check, I couldn't think of a reason [02:41] so you used? [02:41] go to system then go to Startup Disk creator [02:41] emer: you can go to [02:41] YEEAH [02:41] head_victim: I can't see any reason at all [02:41] emer: you did that? [02:42] Glad it's not just me :) Alright I'm off again, goign to check out the in-laws to see how flooded it is [02:42] let me find url [02:42] emer: you dont have to [02:42] did you use that program [02:42] startup disk creator to make the bootable USB ? [02:42] http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download [02:42] the startup disk creator [02:42] yes [02:42] OK [02:43] the usb is fine [02:43] i just cant boot it [02:43] IF there is nothing else on the stick [02:43] i did it before [02:43] by just hitting enter [02:43] i sometimes format them [02:43] just to make sure [02:43] but this time it doesnt work [02:43] ok [02:43] before making it [02:43] AND then i try unetbootin [02:43] if that creator doesnt do the trick [02:44] because for some reason when i use update manager it wont let me ubgrade [02:44] upgrade* [02:45] emer: whats the error? [02:45] let me find it [02:45] i forgot it [02:45] im also getting an error on formatting the USB [02:45] One or more partitions are busy on /dev/sdc [02:46] maybe its still mounted? [02:46] mounted? [02:46] help me here lol [02:47] you wouldnt want to format the drive while its mounted [02:47] but what is mounted [02:47] when you put the stick in [02:47] the USB stick [02:47] oh [02:47] to read and/or write [02:47] ok [02:47] you mount it [02:47] got u [02:47] so how do i unmount it them [02:47] nautilus auto-mounts [02:48] emer: i use gparted [02:48] you can unmount from there [02:48] its just the tool that i got used to [02:48] umm [02:48] umount /path/to/drive [02:48] i dont know what your saying lol [02:48] im new [02:48] so [02:48] OK [02:48] when i want to format a USB stick [02:48] i use gparted [02:49] how do i use gparted [02:49] its in the menu [02:49] under system administration [02:49] wait i found what i needed [02:49] OK [02:49] under disk utility? right [02:49] nah [02:50] no i found it [02:50] it say unmount drive [02:50] and it works!! [02:52] holstein: back to what you were saying i cant find gparted [02:52] and now my USB wont mount [02:53] well, now you are unable to mount the USB [02:53] anyways, this is a theory really [02:53] sometimes when i format the USB stick fresh [02:53] then use unetbootin [02:53] it works [02:53] the ubuntu usb creator didnt work for me a couple times [02:54] so i havent tried it in a while [02:54] where is unetbootin [02:54] unetbootin is in the repos though [02:54] and so is gparted [02:54] its up to you [02:54] maybe you can just remake the stick [02:54] i dont mind which ever [02:54] i just cant find what u are telling me [02:54] if you're not comfortalbe mounting and formatting [02:54] i dont have a gparted or a unetbooting [02:55] OK [02:55] they are moth availalbe in the repositories [02:55] so you can install unetbootin [02:55] if you would like [02:55] from where ever you install software [02:55] software center [02:55] OR synaptic [02:55] or commandline [02:56] sudo apt-get install unetbootin [02:57] okay [02:57] wait i just remounted it by making a partion on it from disk utility [02:57] cool [02:57] if that works for you, go for it [02:58] maybe remaking the stick now will do the trick [02:58] but then i get a file that in the USB that is lost+found and it cannot be deleted [02:58] wait back up [02:58] so when im adding a partion on it after i format drive [02:59] should the type be Ext4 [02:59] depends [02:59] probably not [02:59] probably fat [02:59] ok [02:59] still i have no idea what im doing so im just trying to mess around lol [03:00] as long as you're careful [03:00] ok [03:00] and you're sure you're messing with that USB stick [03:00] and theres nothing important on the stick [03:00] go for it [03:00] nothing at all [03:01] ok i used fat [03:01] and now it works [03:01] so im goin to use to startup disk creator now [03:01] i like it [03:01] ok so far so good [03:02] and i select the /dev/sdc1, correct? [03:02] Should Ubuntu have a right-click menu on the desktop? [03:02] emer: i would open a terminal [03:03] run sudo fdisk -l [03:03] to make sure [03:03] johnny77: yup [03:03] ok i did [03:03] create folder etc.... johnny77 [03:03] emer: that'll tell you what is what [03:04] holstein: if I lost it, how can I get it back? [03:04] okay [03:04]