[11:26] <Bryn_S> re Welsh speaking at Hacio'r Iaith, they're working on getting translation gear in there for non-Welsh speakers
[13:23] <brobostigon> afternoonings all.
[13:47]  * Kaia is gutted she can't go to Hacio'r Iaith, stupid exam
[13:51] <brobostigon> :(
[13:53] <Kaia> I have an exam at 2pm
[13:54] <brobostigon> i see. not good, :(
[13:56] <Kaia> I just invited one of my lecturers to Hacio'r Iaith :)
[13:58] <brobostigon> :)
[13:58] <Kaia> My lecturer was one of the people who wrote the app to learn Welsh on the Iphone
[13:58] <brobostigon> cool. :)
[13:59] <Kaia> http://www.aber.ac.uk/en/news/archive/2009/august/title-77816-en.html
[14:01] <Kaia> Adrian
[14:01] <brobostigon> :)
[14:43] <chippanfat> i know this is going to sound dense ! but would you guys know how i go about copying files to a usb pen on terminal?
[14:43] <chippanfat> its one of the things i've never done xD
[14:44] <brobostigon> chippanfat: df -h -T  ,to find the mount point.
[14:44] <chippanfat> been looking on the interwebz for a while but i've found nothing
[14:44] <chippanfat> I'll give it a try now :)
[14:45] <brobostigon> chippanfat: and then use "cp" to copy the files to the mountpoint of that drive,
[14:45] <chippanfat> ahhh :/ it cant find anything :(
[14:45] <brobostigon> chippanfat: paste the output of df -h -T
[14:46] <brobostigon> and is the usb drive mounted,can yousee it in nautilus?
[14:46] <chippanfat> I'll have to sort you out with a image and a link from photobucket :) i'm using a virtual machine atm see and it wont let me copy ¬.¬
[14:47] <brobostigon> ok.
[14:49] <chippanfat> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/efan1234/df.png
[14:49] <chippanfat> you'll have to excuse, i done the df command twice :p
[14:50] <brobostigon> noworries :)
[14:51] <brobostigon> chippanfat: your usb isnt mounted, ok, get the /dev of it with "fdisk -l"
[14:52] <chippanfat> right ok :)
[14:52] <chippanfat> nothing has apeard when i do the df command again
[14:53] <brobostigon> so not even "/ root "shows up ?
[14:56] <chippanfat> nope :/
[14:56] <chippanfat> I've got /dev/sda1
[14:57] <brobostigon> that shouldnt be possible,because youcant have a running syste,m without root.
[14:57] <chippanfat> which show the size of the HDD but thats about it
[14:57] <chippanfat> :/ i dont think it would matter that its in a virtual machine either
[14:57] <brobostigon> same as a real system inreal terms.
[14:58] <chippanfat> yeahh :)
[14:58] <chippanfat> yeahh :)
[14:58] <chippanfat> i'll resort to install the xubuntu desktop :P
[14:59] <brobostigon> chippanfat: that doesnt solve the problem, it could make it more complex.
[14:59] <brobostigon> or break things more,
[14:59] <chippanfat> its just so i can drag and drop :)
[14:59] <chippanfat> i've been trying to be good and run the servers just in command line see :)
[14:59] <chippanfat> I dont do a good job of it though xD
[15:00] <brobostigon> chippanfat: xfce will need the samedetails aswe are trying tofind out, if it cant get them, it wont be able to do it either,
[15:00] <chippanfat> ahhh :/
[15:01] <chippanfat> i'll keep googling :)
[15:01] <brobostigon> so trying to install xfce could complicate things even more,
[15:01] <brobostigon> chippanfat: reboot it, and try again.
[15:01] <chippanfat> okiedokie :)
[15:03] <brobostigon> chippanfat: and is the virtual machine setto share the usb with the system inside the virtual machine?
[15:04] <chippanfat> yeahh :) it shares the virtual drives and usb's :) ohhh, and with a bridged net connection
[15:04] <brobostigon> ok,
[15:04] <brobostigon> what is the output of fdisk -l
[15:06] <chippanfat> You'll have to give me a bit xD the vm is doing something wanky :p
[15:06] <brobostigon> ok,
[15:06] <brobostigon> can you define wanky?
[15:07] <brobostigon> clarify?
[15:08] <chippanfat> sorry :P seven is doing the whole "not responding" thing on the vmware
[15:08] <chippanfat> i'm just waiting for the proccess to terminate :)
[15:09] <brobostigon> ok.
[15:10] <brobostigon> chippanfat: iwillbrb, just need to wet my whistle.
[15:11] <chippanfat> okiedokie :)
[15:16] <brobostigon> back, :)
[15:18] <brobostigon> chippanfat: ok, back, :)
[15:19] <chippanfat> hiya :)
[15:19] <chippanfat> just restarting the vm :)
[15:19] <brobostigon> ok, :)
[15:22] <chippanfat> fdisk -l dosent pull anything up :/
[15:22] <chippanfat> but it does complete the command with no error
[15:23] <brobostigon> chippanfat: dmesg | grep /dev
[15:23] <brobostigon> chippanfat: dmesg | grep usb
[15:24] <chippanfat> registered new usb interface :)
[15:25] <brobostigon> ok, what oes the first output ?
[15:28] <chippanfat> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/efan1234/usb.png
[15:28] <chippanfat> want me to "DF" it again? :)
[15:29] <brobostigon> dmesg | grep /dev
[15:30] <chippanfat> adding 407548k swap on /dev/sda5
[15:30] <brobostigon> thats it?
[15:30] <chippanfat> and it output about the sleep, power and mouse wheel buttons
[15:31] <brobostigon> anything else ?
[15:31] <chippanfat> nothing :(
[15:32] <brobostigon> also can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:33] <chippanfat> i cant copy from the vm :( another photobucket job xD
[15:33] <brobostigon> ohwell, only waybout it,
[15:33] <chippanfat> http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/efan1234/123.png
[15:34] <brobostigon> chippanfat: inthat case, i either would sayits not sharing the usb device properly, for ubuntu to pick it up.
[15:36] <chippanfat> I'll go and attempt to re-configue the vm :)
[15:37] <brobostigon> thats the only reason i can think of, that ubuntu cant see the usb drive,
[15:37] <chippanfat> yeahh :)
[15:37] <chippanfat> its found it on the servers if i do these commands :)
[15:38] <brobostigon> i amnot sure what you mean ?
[15:40] <chippanfat> those commands let me identify the usb's etc on the servers :) which arnt virtual machines :)
[15:41] <chippanfat> i just went and had a quick look now
[15:41] <chippanfat> to make sure that it is most likley the vmware on this comptuer for the usb's not being visible :)
[15:41] <brobostigon> i see, so thatsays to me,the VM is sharing the usb properly.
[15:42] <brobostigon> isnt*
[15:43] <chippanfat> i got confused then haha xD just kept reading that over and over :p
[15:43] <brobostigon> sorry. :)
[15:44] <chippanfat> haha :D
[15:44] <chippanfat> i've broken some of the networking files on the servers see xD
[15:44] <brobostigon> :(
[15:44] <chippanfat> so i've installed the vmware so i can get a fresh copy of them to copy over on the real servers
[15:44] <chippanfat> thtats my reason for woundering how to copy :)
[15:44] <brobostigon> we can try and fix them if you want.
[15:44] <chippanfat> its literally from setting a static ip xD
[15:45] <brobostigon> i see.
[15:45] <chippanfat> I'll email the files to my self xD
[15:45] <chippanfat> nice simple fix then :D
[15:45] <brobostigon> :)
[15:51] <chippanfat> Right, i must dash :) gotta go pick my father up from work :(
[15:51] <chippanfat> thankyou for your help :) :D xoxoxoxo
[15:51] <brobostigon> youre welcome, bye chippanfat :)
[18:06] <brobostigon> helo chippanfat
[18:06] <chippanfat> Hey :)
[18:06] <brobostigon> :)
[18:06] <chippanfat> you'll have to bear with me a sec :) need a shower xD
[18:06] <brobostigon> :)
[18:24] <chippanfat> Helloo ^_^
[18:24] <brobostigon> :)
[18:24] <chippanfat> finally got that server working :)
[18:25] <chippanfat> copied all the networking files from the other server :p
[18:25] <brobostigon> :)
[18:25] <brobostigon> thats good,
[18:25] <chippanfat> :D need to get a file server and a lamp server on the go see :)
[18:26] <chippanfat> i keep breaking them :P i think vmware server 2 is the way forward somehow :p
[18:26] <brobostigon> :)
[18:26] <chippanfat> least I cant break the physical machine and its just a case of deleting and staring again :p
[18:27] <brobostigon> i am always here, if you need help. :)
[18:27] <chippanfat> :D
[18:27] <chippanfat> I'm doing my best to make this channel my second home ! :D
[18:28] <chippanfat> i found this irc client for windows called Xchat and i've taken to the GUI :) so its constantly on in the corner of my screen :p
[18:28] <brobostigon> chippanfat: #unity-coders are very nice aswell.
[18:29] <chippanfat> I'll have a look at them now :)
[18:29] <brobostigon> i help out there aswell. and we have a new inoprogress website, unity-coders.co.uk/drupal
[18:32] <chippanfat> :D
[18:33] <brobostigon> the poll was mythought, :)
[18:33] <chippanfat> :D
[18:33] <chippanfat> i cant get it to load :(
[18:34] <brobostigon> it does and will load. try reloading it a few times.
[18:36] <chippanfat> @brobostigon: nothing :( and brbb :)
[18:37] <brobostigon> ok, hmm. :(
[18:37] <brobostigon> try http://www.unitycoders.co.uk/drupal/
[18:57] <chippanfat> hiya :)
[18:58] <chippanfat> working now :)
[18:58] <chippanfat> and i like it :D
[18:58] <chippanfat> whats the main aim of unity coders? :)
[19:01] <brobostigon> http://www.unitycoders.co.uk/drupal/about   describes it quite well.
[19:01] <chippanfat> haha xD I should really pay more attention to things :p
[19:01] <brobostigon> no wworries.
[23:23] <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well.