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rodrigo_morning08:56
htorquegood morning, everyone! why would re-compiling current dbusmenu succeed on one natty system but fail on a second one with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553528/ ?09:27
htorque("current" meaning the one in natty, not upstream trunk)09:27
rodrigo_htorque, you seem to be missing glib's introspection package (gir*glib*)09:57
htorquerodrigo_: it's installed (gir1.2-glib-2.0)10:01
rodrigo_htorque, you need to specify it then when calling vapigen?10:04
htorquerodrigo_: i simply did a 'apt-get build-dep ...', 'apt-get source ...', 'cd ...', and 'debuild -us -uc' - shouldn't this alone work (it does on a second system)?10:06
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rodrigo_htorque, yes, it should afaik10:49
htorquerodrigo_: i just thought i was missing something obvious - if not, i better reinstall this system :-)10:53
rodrigo_htorque, no need to reinstall, it's surely some missing package that is not pulled correctly as dependency10:53
htorquerodrigo_: yeah, that's the last thing i'll check (comparing the working system's packages to the one on this machine). anyways, thanks for your help! :-)10:54
rodrigo_np, and sorry for not knowing exactly what's missing :)10:55
rodrigo_but it looks to me like it's a gir* package10:55
xclaessegnome3 ppa is not being updated anymore? :(10:58
* xclaesse would appreciate the latest gnome-keyring, as it is needed to build empathy10:59
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rodrigo_xclaesse, it is, I just submitted a couple of packages12:57
rodrigo_xclaesse, what are you missing?12:57
xclaesserodrigo_, latest gnome-keyring :)12:58
rodrigo_xclaesse, already there, maybe you're using the old PPA?12:58
rodrigo_xclaesse, https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome312:59
rodrigo_is that the one you're using?12:59
xclaesserodrigo_, oooh that explain it12:59
xclaesserodrigo_, didn't know the ppa changed, that's why there were no update last month12:59
rodrigo_yeah, it was moved to anbother ppa during xmas12:59
xclaesserodrigo_, thanks :D12:59
rodrigo_np, let me know if you need anything else13:00
rodrigo_I'm about to start packaging stuff that is not on the ppa, so I don't mind one or the other :)13:00
xclaesserodrigo_, ok I'll let you know if needed. But for now I think we have the needed bits13:14
xclaessethx13:14
rodrigo_ok13:14
ari-tczewI've requested merge of a few branches. looking forward.13:54
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bcurtiswxxclaesse, I can build the latest empathy fine from source, the problem I'm having is with our patches for the indicator applet.. that i'm still waiting for some expert advice14:39
bcurtiswxonce thats finished empathy will go into the GNOME3 PPA14:39
xclaessebcurtiswx, FYI we maintain our telepathy ppa: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy/+archive/telepathy-devel14:41
bcurtiswxxclaesse, yup , I know :)14:41
xclaesserodrigo_, FYI natty is still missing GTK 2.99.0 to build empathy14:56
xclaessethe rest is fine14:56
rodrigo_xclaesse, yes, working on it15:03
mterrysladen, do you know anything about svg icons being shrunk at build time?  Or is that pitti?15:28
pittimterry: that'd be me15:28
mterrypitti, it's screwing up the Deja Dup icon15:28
pittimterry: where are you right now?15:28
mterrypitti, DX Foundations room on floor 315:29
pittiah15:29
pittimterry: mind if I come down for a bit?15:29
mterrypitti, no, please15:29
sladenmterry: the SVG abuse is pitti's.  But if it wasn't him, it'd be me so if it's not working it needs to be fixed and affected packages re-built15:37
mterrysladen, yeah, I found a bug, but I'll just file it and see what happens before I fix the package15:46
sladenmterry: it'd be good to diagnose it; the same parsing issue might (will likely) have affected other images in other rebuilt packages15:58
pittisladen: right, we just talked about this15:58
mterrysladen, yar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/scour/+bug/70242315:59
pittithe upstream scour guys are very responsive15:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 702423 in scour (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Scour corrupts deja-dup.svg (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]15:59
pittimterry: thanks, sub'ed16:00
jcastrochrisccoulson: where do people report bugs on the extension?16:18
chrisccoulsonjcastro - https://bugs.launchpad.net/globalmenu-extension/+filebug should be fine16:19
jcastrochrisccoulson: how's this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21373/how-can-i-get-firefox-to-work-with-the-application-menu16:20
chrisccoulsonjcastro - yeah, looks good. users might need to restart their session too, so that unity picks up the new dbusmenu16:21
jcastroit worked for me without a restarty16:21
jcastrochrisccoulson: ok, I'll whip up a blog post and then also ping the tbird list16:22
chrisccoulsonexcellent, thanks16:22
chrisccoulsoni'm currently working on making it work with tb3.1 (it works with the 3.3 alpha builds already)16:22
rodrigo_robert_ancell, ping16:23
robert_ancellrodrigo_, hey, just wondering where you are16:25
rodrigo_robert_ancell, at home, didn't go to dallas because of some family stuff16:25
rodrigo_robert_ancell, having fun?16:26
robert_ancellrodrigo_, as much fun as you can have in dallas :)16:26
rodrigo_heh16:26
rodrigo_no Hooters there? :)16:26
robert_ancellheh :)16:26
dobeyheh16:27
rodrigo_robert_ancell, anyway, wanted to tell you 2 things, 1 one is that I'm packaging gtk3 2.99.2, just in case you were planning to16:27
rodrigo_robert_ancell, and the 2nd, about The Board, Lucas told me about your initial work16:27
robert_ancellrodrigo_, make sure you merge from the debian gtk+ package16:28
rodrigo_robert_ancell, oh, how do I do that? (part from getting the debian package by hand, any "automagic" way?16:28
rodrigo_hey seb12816:28
seb128hey rodrigo_16:29
seb128how are you?16:29
rodrigo_seb128, fine, although missing the sprint action :-)16:29
robert_ancellrodrigo_, just by hand16:29
rodrigo_robert_ancell, ok, although I have my package almost done :(16:29
* rodrigo_ looks16:29
robert_ancellrodrigo_, the main thing is the script -3.0 suffixes so we match them16:30
rodrigo_oh, ok, will diff both now16:30
seb128rodrigo_, we should check what debian is doing before starting16:30
rodrigo_well, where do I get the debian packages from?16:30
rodrigo_seb128, right, although that's true for some packages and not for others, right?16:30
seb128no, we usually want to base our work on theirs16:31
seb128there is no point to redoing the work16:31
seb128http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html16:31
seb128http://packages.qa.debian.org/<source>16:31
rodrigo_hmm, I see a lot of our packages don't have anything about merging from debian16:31
seb128http://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/16:32
seb128if you want a list to track the changes16:32
seb128rodrigo_, well things like gsettings-desktop-schemas can just be synced16:32
seb128or gnome-desktop316:32
seb128we also want to check what they do to not divert on binary names etc16:33
rodrigo_oh, btw talking about g-desktop3 -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop/2_91_6_release/+merge/4611616:33
rodrigo_can someone merge and upload it?16:33
seb128rodrigo_, let me check16:34
seb128debian did the update16:34
seb128http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop3/gnome-desktop3_2.91.6-1.dsc16:34
seb128rodrigo_, I think we can just sync from them16:34
rodrigo_ok, debian has gtk3 2.99.116:36
robert_ancellbigon, hey, can you do the clutter-gtk sync or do you want me to do it16:48
bigonI can upload it to universe but I dunno what to do for it going to mail16:48
ricotzrobert_ancell, hi :), an update of clutter itself  to 1.5.12 would be nice16:49
robert_ancellricotz, I just uploaded it16:50
ricotzrobert_ancell, great!16:50
robert_ancellbigon, oh right, requestsync confused me, I thought it was in Universe16:50
robert_ancellbigon, pitti is syncing clutter-gtk now16:52
chrisccoulsonjcastro, i've got firefox working without the double title-bar now (thanks to didrocks)16:53
jcastrochrisccoulson: I get that with a bunch of apps actually16:53
bigonrobert_ancell: great, thx16:55
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seb128rodrigo_, do you work on the gtk update?17:35
rodrigo_seb128, yes, have already rebased all patches, but doesn't build yet17:35
rodrigo_seb128, why?17:35
seb128rodrigo_, because the new gnome-desktop3 seems to require it?17:36
rodrigo_oh17:36
rodrigo_hmm, it built fine here without the latest gtk17:37
seb128rodrigo_, ok, dunno why the debian guys updated the requirement then17:38
rodrigo_maybe it indeed needs it at runtime17:39
rodrigo_I'll do some tests here17:39
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rodrigo_seb128, ah, the debian package depends on 2.99.1?17:48
seb128rodrigo_, yeah but I just asked them, they did it to ensure it built with a version of gtk which has the backend renaming done17:49
rodrigo_ah, right17:49
bcurtiswx_rodrigo_, seb128, xclaesse was saying earlier that empathy 2.91.5 requires 2.99.1 so I have to wait for it as well17:52
xclaessebcurtiswx_, for empathy master, yes. But latest release uses 2.91.617:53
bcurtiswx_xclaesse, ah OK thx17:54
rodrigo_xclaesse, bcurtiswx: I have my branch almost ready, but failing to build, so if you want to help, I can push it18:14
bcurtiswx_rodrigo_, not sure I'd be much help, but push and I'll see what I can do18:15
rodrigo_$ bzr push --remember lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk/2_99_2_release18:17
rodrigo_bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk/2_99_2_release": No such source package gtk18:17
rodrigo_what's the correct source package name?18:17
micahggtk+3.0?18:17
rodrigo_hmm, didn't seem to work neither18:18
* rodrigo_ retries18:18
micahgrodrigo_: yep, gtk+3.018:18
rodrigo_bcurtiswx: pushing to lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk+3.0/2_99_2_release18:18
bigonrobert_ancell: for mutter I think you have missed part of my patch (looking at bzr branch)18:19
rodrigo_I need to go now for a while though, so if you have a fix, propose a branch or just send a patch, or if not, I'll continue fixing it later18:19
rodrigo_bbl18:19
robert_ancellbigon, we synced with debian, so the branch is out of date18:20
bigonoh18:20
bigonalright18:20
bcurtiswx_rodrigo_, OK will do, cya18:21
bcurtiswx_how do I build w/o signing18:23
ricotzrobert_ancell, shouldnt libclutter-1.0-0 depend on libclutter-1.0-common?18:25
robert_ancellricotz, yes, I'll tell pochu18:26
ricotzok18:27
xclaesselooks like there is something broken with libwebkit in natty18:50
xclaesselibwebkit->libwebkitgtk transition issue probably18:51
bcurtiswx_xclaesse, yes, for now I have just disabled it.  Webkit is still broken, nobody has been able to get that package uploaded yet since it FTBFS18:59
bcurtiswx_AFAIK, it's still broken i haven't been told otherwise18:59
bcurtiswx_rodrigo_, what was failing for you?19:00
kklimondahey - when I have two bittorrent clients installed, Firefox shows only the first one in the Open dialog. Is it a bug in Firefox?19:31
kklimondachrisccoulson: any idea ^?19:33
mogajheadphone not working in laptop using ubuntu 10.1019:38
cdbskenvandine: ping, looking at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60389996/indicator-me_0.2.10-0ubuntu2_0.2.10-0ubuntu3.diff.gz, why was the patch for bug #682153 reverted?19:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 682153 in indicator-me (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "MeMenu should use user's real name if available (affects: 32) (dups: 1) (heat: 120)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68215319:45
cdbskenvandine: oh, okay, I got it19:47
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nessitamterry: hi! I forgot  to mention the new dbus service we have, to provide U1 specific credentials20:28
nessitamterry: on natty, you can activate the com.ubuntuone.credentials dbus service, and ask credentials and stuff, without needing to pass a zillion of specific arguments20:29
nessitamterry: also, the problem you were having with the control panel is this one: bug #624065. Wanna mark it as affects me too?20:30
ubot2Launchpad bug 624065 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Detect revoked SSO tokens (affects: 2) (heat: 26)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62406520:30
bigonI think that gobject-introspection package can be sync'ed from debian20:34
mterrynessita, OK, thanks!20:36
mterrynessita, btw, do you know anything about the status of 3rd party access to a REST API for U1?20:36
nessitamterry: not much, other than CardinalFang and vds are working on that, you may wanna join #ubuntuone and ask them20:37
mterrynessita, k20:37
nessitamterry: last question, are you updating the comments on the MIR for the control panel or shall I reply?20:38
mterrynessita, I'll do it.  I have to check to confirm libsoup is a trivial binary-promotion as well20:39
bigonrobert_ancell: if you are still around could you please sync gobject-introspection?20:39
robert_ancellbigon, yup, seb128 is about to do it20:40
nessitamterry: thanks20:40
seb128kenvandine, there?20:40
bigongreat20:41
seb128kenvandine, do you have libindicator work somewhere?20:41
dobeymterry: libsoup is already on the cd, it's just the gir package is in universe or something still20:41
mterrydobey, yup, that's what I've heard20:41
seb128kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libindicator/ubuntu/+merge/46170, what breaks did you add?20:41
seb128mterry, binary promotion is no issue20:42
mterrydobey, seb128: actually, it seems to be in main now anyway20:42
dobeyah, ok20:43
seb128mterry, is kenvandine with you? can you ask him what Breaks libindicator requires?20:49
seb128mterry, cf the question a few lines before this one20:49
kenvandineseb128, Breaks: libindicator120:50
seb128kenvandine, oh,  it's one of those again...20:51
seb128kenvandine, thanks20:51
kenvandineyeah... :/20:51
pittirobert_ancell: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.natty/20:59
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: ping21:11
robert_ancellari-tczew, yes21:11
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: let me know: do you review my branches to merge only when there is new upstream release available?21:12
robert_ancellari-tczew, :)  There's always new upstream releases21:12
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: so my merging are wasted21:12
robert_ancellrodrigo_, how is the GTK+ package going?21:12
robert_ancellari-tczew, no, they still simplify the packaging - it doesn't matter if the merge is done before or after the update21:13
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: but I can't understand why anybody from ubuntu-desktop can't review it before upgrading to new upstream release21:14
ari-tczewI'm disappointed21:14
robert_ancellari-tczew, I applied it, then did the upgrade immediately after it21:16
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: the effect of merge should be upload to archive - here I am disappointed21:20
robert_ancellari-tczew, it was uploaded to the archive with your changelog entry!21:21
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: yes, but you built source without option -v21:22
robert_ancellari-tczew, oh, sorry.  Seb just pointed that out21:22
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: should be -v1.60-0ubuntu1 then launchpad can show my d/changelog entry21:22
ari-tczews/can/could21:23
pittimvo: is there magic in p-apt to dissect a build or binary depends line into a list of (packagage, relation, version)?21:35
pittimvo: oh, ParseDepends() and ParseSrcDepends() apparently -- what's the difference? they have identical docstrings21:37
pittiapt.apt_pkg.ParseSrcDepends(control.section['Build-Depends'])21:38
pittithat seems to work anyway21:38
mvopitti: yeah, thats the ones. if they have identical bugstrings, that smells like a bug21:38
mvopitti: yeah, that looks correct21:38
pittibug strings? nice :)21:39
* pitti hugs mvo21:39
mvohihi21:40
kklimondamvo: software-center doesn't find Transmission when I search for "torrent" - can I do something beside adding "torrent" to its description? It already has BitTorrent21:40
mvokklimonda: you can also add "X-AppInstall-Keywords" to the desktop file21:41
mvokklimonda: that should make it appear too21:41
kklimondamvo: ok, thanks - I'll try that. Do I have to run update-software-center and update-desktop... after editing it?21:42
mvokklimonda: just update-software-center, that should be enough21:48
mvokklimonda: please let me know, I need to run now21:48
chrisccoulsonpitti - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/extension-list22:17
pittimvo: is there an apt.SourceCache() kind of thing?22:37
Wallch_DeveloperIf someone here have time please consider of making a review to this project --> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch ;-)23:23
ari-tczewrobert_ancell: how do you handle with syncs?23:43

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