[08:56] <rodrigo_> morning
[09:27] <htorque> good morning, everyone! why would re-compiling current dbusmenu succeed on one natty system but fail on a second one with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553528/ ?
[09:27] <htorque> ("current" meaning the one in natty, not upstream trunk)
[09:57] <rodrigo_> htorque, you seem to be missing glib's introspection package (gir*glib*)
[10:01] <htorque> rodrigo_: it's installed (gir1.2-glib-2.0)
[10:04] <rodrigo_> htorque, you need to specify it then when calling vapigen?
[10:06] <htorque> rodrigo_: i simply did a 'apt-get build-dep ...', 'apt-get source ...', 'cd ...', and 'debuild -us -uc' - shouldn't this alone work (it does on a second system)?
[10:49] <rodrigo_> htorque, yes, it should afaik
[10:53] <htorque> rodrigo_: i just thought i was missing something obvious - if not, i better reinstall this system :-)
[10:53] <rodrigo_> htorque, no need to reinstall, it's surely some missing package that is not pulled correctly as dependency
[10:54] <htorque> rodrigo_: yeah, that's the last thing i'll check (comparing the working system's packages to the one on this machine). anyways, thanks for your help! :-)
[10:55] <rodrigo_> np, and sorry for not knowing exactly what's missing :)
[10:55] <rodrigo_> but it looks to me like it's a gir* package
[10:58] <xclaesse> gnome3 ppa is not being updated anymore? :(
[10:59]  * xclaesse would appreciate the latest gnome-keyring, as it is needed to build empathy
[12:57] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, it is, I just submitted a couple of packages
[12:57] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, what are you missing?
[12:58] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, latest gnome-keyring :)
[12:58] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, already there, maybe you're using the old PPA?
[12:59] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[12:59] <rodrigo_> is that the one you're using?
[12:59] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, oooh that explain it
[12:59] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, didn't know the ppa changed, that's why there were no update last month
[12:59] <rodrigo_> yeah, it was moved to anbother ppa during xmas
[12:59] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, thanks :D
[13:00] <rodrigo_> np, let me know if you need anything else
[13:00] <rodrigo_> I'm about to start packaging stuff that is not on the ppa, so I don't mind one or the other :)
[13:14] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, ok I'll let you know if needed. But for now I think we have the needed bits
[13:14] <xclaesse> thx
[13:14] <rodrigo_> ok
[13:54] <ari-tczew> I've requested merge of a few branches. looking forward.
[14:39] <bcurtiswx> xclaesse, I can build the latest empathy fine from source, the problem I'm having is with our patches for the indicator applet.. that i'm still waiting for some expert advice
[14:39] <bcurtiswx> once thats finished empathy will go into the GNOME3 PPA
[14:41] <xclaesse> bcurtiswx, FYI we maintain our telepathy ppa: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy/+archive/telepathy-devel
[14:41] <bcurtiswx> xclaesse, yup , I know :)
[14:56] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, FYI natty is still missing GTK 2.99.0 to build empathy
[14:56] <xclaesse> the rest is fine
[15:03] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, yes, working on it
[15:28] <mterry> sladen, do you know anything about svg icons being shrunk at build time?  Or is that pitti?
[15:28] <pitti> mterry: that'd be me
[15:28] <mterry> pitti, it's screwing up the Deja Dup icon
[15:28] <pitti> mterry: where are you right now?
[15:29] <mterry> pitti, DX Foundations room on floor 3
[15:29] <pitti> ah
[15:29] <pitti> mterry: mind if I come down for a bit?
[15:29] <mterry> pitti, no, please
[15:37] <sladen> mterry: the SVG abuse is pitti's.  But if it wasn't him, it'd be me so if it's not working it needs to be fixed and affected packages re-built
[15:46] <mterry> sladen, yeah, I found a bug, but I'll just file it and see what happens before I fix the package
[15:58] <sladen> mterry: it'd be good to diagnose it; the same parsing issue might (will likely) have affected other images in other rebuilt packages
[15:58] <pitti> sladen: right, we just talked about this
[15:59] <mterry> sladen, yar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/scour/+bug/702423
[15:59] <pitti> the upstream scour guys are very responsive
[15:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 702423 in scour (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Scour corrupts deja-dup.svg (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[16:00] <pitti> mterry: thanks, sub'ed
[16:18] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: where do people report bugs on the extension?
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - https://bugs.launchpad.net/globalmenu-extension/+filebug should be fine
[16:20] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: how's this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21373/how-can-i-get-firefox-to-work-with-the-application-menu
[16:21] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - yeah, looks good. users might need to restart their session too, so that unity picks up the new dbusmenu
[16:21] <jcastro> it worked for me without a restarty
[16:22] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: ok, I'll whip up a blog post and then also ping the tbird list
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> excellent, thanks
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> i'm currently working on making it work with tb3.1 (it works with the 3.3 alpha builds already)
[16:23] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, ping
[16:25] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, hey, just wondering where you are
[16:25] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, at home, didn't go to dallas because of some family stuff
[16:26] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, having fun?
[16:26] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, as much fun as you can have in dallas :)
[16:26] <rodrigo_> heh
[16:26] <rodrigo_> no Hooters there? :)
[16:26] <robert_ancell> heh :)
[16:27] <dobey> heh
[16:27] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, anyway, wanted to tell you 2 things, 1 one is that I'm packaging gtk3 2.99.2, just in case you were planning to
[16:27] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, and the 2nd, about The Board, Lucas told me about your initial work
[16:28] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, make sure you merge from the debian gtk+ package
[16:28] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, oh, how do I do that? (part from getting the debian package by hand, any "automagic" way?
[16:28] <rodrigo_> hey seb128
[16:29] <seb128> hey rodrigo_
[16:29] <seb128> how are you?
[16:29] <rodrigo_> seb128, fine, although missing the sprint action :-)
[16:29] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, just by hand
[16:29] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, ok, although I have my package almost done :(
[16:29]  * rodrigo_ looks
[16:30] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, the main thing is the script -3.0 suffixes so we match them
[16:30] <rodrigo_> oh, ok, will diff both now
[16:30] <seb128> rodrigo_, we should check what debian is doing before starting
[16:30] <rodrigo_> well, where do I get the debian packages from?
[16:30] <rodrigo_> seb128, right, although that's true for some packages and not for others, right?
[16:31] <seb128> no, we usually want to base our work on theirs
[16:31] <seb128> there is no point to redoing the work
[16:31] <seb128> http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html
[16:31] <seb128> http://packages.qa.debian.org/<source>
[16:31] <rodrigo_> hmm, I see a lot of our packages don't have anything about merging from debian
[16:32] <seb128> http://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/
[16:32] <seb128> if you want a list to track the changes
[16:32] <seb128> rodrigo_, well things like gsettings-desktop-schemas can just be synced
[16:32] <seb128> or gnome-desktop3
[16:33] <seb128> we also want to check what they do to not divert on binary names etc
[16:33] <rodrigo_> oh, btw talking about g-desktop3 -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop/2_91_6_release/+merge/46116
[16:33] <rodrigo_> can someone merge and upload it?
[16:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, let me check
[16:34] <seb128> debian did the update
[16:34] <seb128> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop3/gnome-desktop3_2.91.6-1.dsc
[16:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, I think we can just sync from them
[16:36] <rodrigo_> ok, debian has gtk3 2.99.1
[16:48] <robert_ancell> bigon, hey, can you do the clutter-gtk sync or do you want me to do it
[16:48] <bigon> I can upload it to universe but I dunno what to do for it going to mail
[16:49] <ricotz> robert_ancell, hi :), an update of clutter itself  to 1.5.12 would be nice
[16:50] <robert_ancell> ricotz, I just uploaded it
[16:50] <ricotz> robert_ancell, great!
[16:50] <robert_ancell> bigon, oh right, requestsync confused me, I thought it was in Universe
[16:52] <robert_ancell> bigon, pitti is syncing clutter-gtk now
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> jcastro, i've got firefox working without the double title-bar now (thanks to didrocks)
[16:53] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: I get that with a bunch of apps actually
[16:55] <bigon> robert_ancell: great, thx
[17:35] <seb128> rodrigo_, do you work on the gtk update?
[17:35] <rodrigo_> seb128, yes, have already rebased all patches, but doesn't build yet
[17:35] <rodrigo_> seb128, why?
[17:36] <seb128> rodrigo_, because the new gnome-desktop3 seems to require it?
[17:36] <rodrigo_> oh
[17:37] <rodrigo_> hmm, it built fine here without the latest gtk
[17:38] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok, dunno why the debian guys updated the requirement then
[17:39] <rodrigo_> maybe it indeed needs it at runtime
[17:39] <rodrigo_> I'll do some tests here
[17:48] <rodrigo_> seb128, ah, the debian package depends on 2.99.1?
[17:49] <seb128> rodrigo_, yeah but I just asked them, they did it to ensure it built with a version of gtk which has the backend renaming done
[17:49] <rodrigo_> ah, right
[17:52] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, seb128, xclaesse was saying earlier that empathy 2.91.5 requires 2.99.1 so I have to wait for it as well
[17:53] <xclaesse> bcurtiswx_, for empathy master, yes. But latest release uses 2.91.6
[17:54] <bcurtiswx_> xclaesse, ah OK thx
[18:14] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, bcurtiswx: I have my branch almost ready, but failing to build, so if you want to help, I can push it
[18:15] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, not sure I'd be much help, but push and I'll see what I can do
[18:17] <rodrigo_> $ bzr push --remember lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk/2_99_2_release
[18:17] <rodrigo_> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk/2_99_2_release": No such source package gtk
[18:17] <rodrigo_> what's the correct source package name?
[18:17] <micahg> gtk+3.0?
[18:18] <rodrigo_> hmm, didn't seem to work neither
[18:18]  * rodrigo_ retries
[18:18] <micahg> rodrigo_: yep, gtk+3.0
[18:18] <rodrigo_> bcurtiswx: pushing to lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk+3.0/2_99_2_release
[18:19] <bigon> robert_ancell: for mutter I think you have missed part of my patch (looking at bzr branch)
[18:19] <rodrigo_> I need to go now for a while though, so if you have a fix, propose a branch or just send a patch, or if not, I'll continue fixing it later
[18:19] <rodrigo_> bbl
[18:20] <robert_ancell> bigon, we synced with debian, so the branch is out of date
[18:20] <bigon> oh
[18:20] <bigon> alright
[18:21] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, OK will do, cya
[18:23] <bcurtiswx_> how do I build w/o signing
[18:25] <ricotz> robert_ancell, shouldnt libclutter-1.0-0 depend on libclutter-1.0-common?
[18:26] <robert_ancell> ricotz, yes, I'll tell pochu
[18:27] <ricotz> ok
[18:50] <xclaesse> looks like there is something broken with libwebkit in natty
[18:51] <xclaesse> libwebkit->libwebkitgtk transition issue probably
[18:59] <bcurtiswx_> xclaesse, yes, for now I have just disabled it.  Webkit is still broken, nobody has been able to get that package uploaded yet since it FTBFS
[18:59] <bcurtiswx_> AFAIK, it's still broken i haven't been told otherwise
[19:00] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, what was failing for you?
[19:31] <kklimonda> hey - when I have two bittorrent clients installed, Firefox shows only the first one in the Open dialog. Is it a bug in Firefox?
[19:33] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: any idea ^?
[19:38] <mogaj> headphone not working in laptop using ubuntu 10.10
[19:45] <cdbs> kenvandine: ping, looking at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60389996/indicator-me_0.2.10-0ubuntu2_0.2.10-0ubuntu3.diff.gz, why was the patch for bug #682153 reverted?
[19:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 682153 in indicator-me (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "MeMenu should use user's real name if available (affects: 32) (dups: 1) (heat: 120)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682153
[19:47] <cdbs> kenvandine: oh, okay, I got it
[20:28] <nessita> mterry: hi! I forgot  to mention the new dbus service we have, to provide U1 specific credentials
[20:29] <nessita> mterry: on natty, you can activate the com.ubuntuone.credentials dbus service, and ask credentials and stuff, without needing to pass a zillion of specific arguments
[20:30] <nessita> mterry: also, the problem you were having with the control panel is this one: bug #624065. Wanna mark it as affects me too?
[20:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 624065 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Detect revoked SSO tokens (affects: 2) (heat: 26)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624065
[20:34] <bigon> I think that gobject-introspection package can be sync'ed from debian
[20:36] <mterry> nessita, OK, thanks!
[20:36] <mterry> nessita, btw, do you know anything about the status of 3rd party access to a REST API for U1?
[20:37] <nessita> mterry: not much, other than CardinalFang and vds are working on that, you may wanna join #ubuntuone and ask them
[20:37] <mterry> nessita, k
[20:38] <nessita> mterry: last question, are you updating the comments on the MIR for the control panel or shall I reply?
[20:39] <mterry> nessita, I'll do it.  I have to check to confirm libsoup is a trivial binary-promotion as well
[20:39] <bigon> robert_ancell: if you are still around could you please sync gobject-introspection?
[20:40] <robert_ancell> bigon, yup, seb128 is about to do it
[20:40] <nessita> mterry: thanks
[20:40] <seb128> kenvandine, there?
[20:41] <bigon> great
[20:41] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have libindicator work somewhere?
[20:41] <dobey> mterry: libsoup is already on the cd, it's just the gir package is in universe or something still
[20:41] <mterry> dobey, yup, that's what I've heard
[20:41] <seb128> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libindicator/ubuntu/+merge/46170, what breaks did you add?
[20:42] <seb128> mterry, binary promotion is no issue
[20:42] <mterry> dobey, seb128: actually, it seems to be in main now anyway
[20:43] <dobey> ah, ok
[20:49] <seb128> mterry, is kenvandine with you? can you ask him what Breaks libindicator requires?
[20:49] <seb128> mterry, cf the question a few lines before this one
[20:50] <kenvandine> seb128, Breaks: libindicator1
[20:51] <seb128> kenvandine, oh,  it's one of those again...
[20:51] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[20:51] <kenvandine> yeah... :/
[20:59] <pitti> robert_ancell: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.natty/
[21:11] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: ping
[21:11] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, yes
[21:12] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: let me know: do you review my branches to merge only when there is new upstream release available?
[21:12] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, :)  There's always new upstream releases
[21:12] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: so my merging are wasted
[21:12] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, how is the GTK+ package going?
[21:13] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, no, they still simplify the packaging - it doesn't matter if the merge is done before or after the update
[21:14] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: but I can't understand why anybody from ubuntu-desktop can't review it before upgrading to new upstream release
[21:14] <ari-tczew> I'm disappointed
[21:16] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, I applied it, then did the upgrade immediately after it
[21:20] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: the effect of merge should be upload to archive - here I am disappointed
[21:21] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, it was uploaded to the archive with your changelog entry!
[21:22] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: yes, but you built source without option -v
[21:22] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, oh, sorry.  Seb just pointed that out
[21:22] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: should be -v1.60-0ubuntu1 then launchpad can show my d/changelog entry
[21:23] <ari-tczew> s/can/could
[21:35] <pitti> mvo: is there magic in p-apt to dissect a build or binary depends line into a list of (packagage, relation, version)?
[21:37] <pitti> mvo: oh, ParseDepends() and ParseSrcDepends() apparently -- what's the difference? they have identical docstrings
[21:38] <pitti> apt.apt_pkg.ParseSrcDepends(control.section['Build-Depends'])
[21:38] <pitti> that seems to work anyway
[21:38] <mvo> pitti: yeah, thats the ones. if they have identical bugstrings, that smells like a bug
[21:38] <mvo> pitti: yeah, that looks correct
[21:39] <pitti> bug strings? nice :)
[21:39]  * pitti hugs mvo
[21:40] <mvo> hihi
[21:40] <kklimonda> mvo: software-center doesn't find Transmission when I search for "torrent" - can I do something beside adding "torrent" to its description? It already has BitTorrent
[21:41] <mvo> kklimonda: you can also add "X-AppInstall-Keywords" to the desktop file
[21:41] <mvo> kklimonda: that should make it appear too
[21:42] <kklimonda> mvo: ok, thanks - I'll try that. Do I have to run update-software-center and update-desktop... after editing it?
[21:48] <mvo> kklimonda: just update-software-center, that should be enough
[21:48] <mvo> kklimonda: please let me know, I need to run now
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> pitti - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/extension-list
[22:37] <pitti> mvo: is there an apt.SourceCache() kind of thing?
[23:23] <Wallch_Developer> If someone here have time please consider of making a review to this project --> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch ;-)
[23:43] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: how do you handle with syncs?