[19:01]  * charlie-tca waves
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Okay, who is here for the Xubuntu Community Meeting?
[19:03] <beardygnome> hi, sorry i'm late
[19:03] <beardygnome> i am
[19:03] <charlie-tca> not late yet
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I am still looking for people who should be here...
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Canonical is down in Dallas, but we should be be around
[19:05] <mr_pouit> \o (phone, sorry)
[19:06] <charlie-tca> #startmeeting
[19:06] <MootBot> Meeting started at 13:06. The chair is charlie-tca.
[19:06] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[19:06] <charlie-tca> I think we should start this meeting.
[19:07] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] The agenda is available for everyone at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  The agenda is available for everyone at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:07] <charlie-tca> hm, the meeting bot is an hour off today
[19:08] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Old business
[19:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  Old business
[19:08] <charlie-tca> first we have updates for http://xubuntu.org
[19:08] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville has not gotten a message back to pleia2 yet, and that is holding up action
[19:09] <beardygnome> is cody-somerville here?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> next, we have the discussion started on the ML for default applications in Natty
[19:10] <charlie-tca> He is probably in Dallas, but I don't know for sure
[19:10] <charlie-tca> He is not answering today
[19:10] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: we seem to have generated quite a discussion
[19:11] <charlie-tca> My own thoughts are that if chrome is updating monthly, maybe it is still beta even if they are not calling it that.
[19:11] <charlie-tca> and I would then recommend we stay with firefox
[19:11] <mr_pouit> it seems to be rather stable though
[19:11] <charlie-tca> Your choice
[19:12] <beardygnome> even though i prefer chromium, i'm happy with that decision for the default
[19:12] <charlie-tca> I do not want applications changed to give us a lower memory footprint versus usability.
[19:12] <mr_pouit> well, let's wait for a consensus on the ml, I'm happy with both (either firefox or chormium)
[19:12] <beardygnome> chrome updates are every 6 weeks or so and they are bumping up the version numbers rapidly
[19:12] <charlie-tca> good enough.
[19:12] <charlie-tca> Anyone else had a chance to test lightdm?
[19:13] <beardygnome> is it packaged for maverick?
[19:13] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: also, claws-mail really is not as easy to setup as thunderbird, yet
[19:13] <charlie-tca> beardygnome: no, I don't believe it is
[19:13] <charlie-tca> and the ppa requires a lot of work to get it installed
[19:13] <mr_pouit> I never tested it, but I heard it has a 'weird' ui ;>
[19:14] <charlie-tca> claws-mail?
[19:14] <mr_pouit> yeah
[19:14] <charlie-tca> it is difficult to set up compared to thunderbird and evolution
[19:14] <mr_pouit> okay
[19:15] <charlie-tca> With a good possiblity of Ubuntu moving to Thunderbird in O, I think we are in a good position keeping it
[19:15] <beardygnome> i agree
[19:15] <charlie-tca> anything else on default apps?
[19:16] <charlie-tca> midori just isn't ready until we can transfer the bookmarks
[19:16] <charlie-tca> Next, we have take the discussion about default launchers to the ML
[19:16] <charlie-tca> I don't remember if this got started or not?
[19:17] <charlie-tca> I guess I should take an action for it, then
[19:18] <charlie-tca> [ACTION] take the discussion about default launchers to the ML
[19:18] <MootBot> ACTION received:  take the discussion about default launchers to the ML
[19:18] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Team updates
[19:18] <MootBot> New Topic:  Team updates
[19:18] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit for packaging and development updates?
[19:19] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Xfce4.8 is scheduled for release this Sunday
[19:20] <mr_pouit> yeah
[19:20] <charlie-tca> any updates on the rest?
[19:20] <mr_pouit> not much activity this week for packaging :>
[19:20] <mr_pouit> uploaded xfce4-power-manager 1.0.3
[19:20] <charlie-tca> I would be surprised if there was, with that comingup
[19:20] <mr_pouit> and patched xfce4-session to lock the screen on suspend/hibernate
[19:21] <mr_pouit> I think that's all
[19:21] <charlie-tca> Great! we been looking forward to the lock
[19:21] <charlie-tca> thank you, mr_pouit
[19:21] <charlie-tca> Bug Triage & Testing
[19:21] <charlie-tca> We have triaged about 70 bugs this week
[19:22] <mr_pouit> yay, abiword spam attack in my mailbox :P
[19:22] <charlie-tca> I went through all the 10.04 bugs, and we don't actually have any critical to the release
[19:22] <charlie-tca> yup, I did that, too, huh?
[19:23] <charlie-tca> We do have broken images again.
[19:23] <charlie-tca> libwebkit is replaced by libwebkitgtk, I think it is?
[19:23] <charlie-tca> Do we fix that?
[19:25] <mr_pouit> I think it will be fixed "automagically" (i.e. we don't depend on webkit directly, so I guess it's ok)
[19:25] <charlie-tca> I will need to get in touch with the documentation person, so we get lucid docs done
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Okay, I hope so. Ubuntu live cd doesn't have the error today, so maybe we will be okay tomorrow
[19:26] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Updates for Xubuntu 10.04.2
[19:26] <MootBot> New Topic:  Updates for Xubuntu 10.04.2
[19:26] <charlie-tca> we need to get anything for 10.04.2 into -proposed by next thursday
[19:27] <charlie-tca> I think the docs will make it, and micahg said he will try to get them in if they are done
[19:27] <charlie-tca> We can do that, right, mr_pouit ?
[19:28] <mr_pouit> yeah, it looks ok
[19:28] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[19:28] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Announcements
[19:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Announcements
[19:29] <charlie-tca> well, I don't seem to have any announcements today.
[19:29] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Any Other Business
[19:29] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business
[19:29] <charlie-tca> anyone have anything we missed or needs to be brought up?
[19:30] <mr_pouit> nothing from me =]
[19:30] <beardygnome> not from me
[19:30] <charlie-tca> I like this, nice and short today
[19:30] <charlie-tca> Not having any more to discuss, let's end.
[19:30] <mr_pouit> well, we were 3, it's easy to make a short meeting ;)
[19:30] <charlie-tca> Thanks for making it to the meeting
[19:30] <beardygnome> oh, i did have one thing...
[19:31] <beardygnome> i've been testing greybird
[19:31] <charlie-tca> well, go ahead, beardygnome
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Is it working for you?
[19:32] <beardygnome> i got one bug fixed and i've found a couple more that i'll report on the ml
[19:32] <beardygnome> nopthing major, just some icons that belnd in a bit too well with the panel
[19:32] <charlie-tca> Thanks for doing those tests! It sure helps to know it isn't just me looking at this stuff
[19:32] <beardygnome> *nothing, *blend
[19:32] <mr_pouit> you can also report them on #shimmer if you need to discuss directly with ochosi btw
[19:33] <beardygnome> i think a screenshot will suffice
[19:33] <beardygnome> can i send attachments on the ml, or should i host it elsewhere?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Can send attachments.
[19:34] <beardygnome> that's good - i'll screenshot my panel and drop it on the ml
[19:34] <charlie-tca> that works
[19:34] <charlie-tca> anything else?
[19:35] <beardygnome> that's all then.  been really busy at work, but hoping to get around to the rest of the docs next week
[19:35] <charlie-tca> thanks again. I know your time is valuable and I appreciate you both making the meeting.
[19:35] <beardygnome> i've reviewed sections 1 to 6 so far
[19:35] <charlie-tca> There is a lot to do yet
[19:35] <beardygnome> on the docs or in general?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I saw a message that the docs were available in html now, didn't I?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> docs, mostly.
[19:36] <beardygnome> i haven't seen that message
[19:36] <beardygnome> but i've been quite focused on the day job this passed week
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Might be all in my mind, too
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Okay, let's go back to work then...
[19:37] <charlie-tca> #endmeeting
[19:37] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 13:37.
[19:38] <beardygnome> see you next week charlie-tca
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Great!
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Thanks for helping with those reviews