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nuno_nunesPlz help to create this a new server to filter this net work00:14
mewayHow do I mount an external hardrive in ubuntu server edition?00:14
nuno_nunesI using ubuntu 10.1000:15
nuno_nunesI install in hard drive internal00:15
nuno_nunesi need help00:17
nuno_nunes:S00:17
slibuntuHey all, having some issues with a RAID array, wondering can anyone help..02:15
ignarpspost the issue02:17
slibuntuI have a server with a 5 disk RAID 1 array that's resyncing. THe resync seems to have frozen though, the speed according to /proc/mdstat is 0k/sec, a cron rsync from another server has also frozen and this is causing the load on the RAIDed server to be huge, >5 with little or no CPU02:19
slibuntuAlso, if I attempt to reboot, it stops and doesn't complete because it can't unmount the drives02:19
oljasHi all! Ubuntu server 10.04.1 Followed official documentation to setup LDAP authentication. Now if i login as a LDAP user i got "i have no name!" in command prompt. Also passwd gives error on LDAP users. /etc/ldap.conf is world readable. Anyone?02:43
_Techie_how to add a command to the end of runlevel 2, the ubuntu way?02:46
sparcHey.. during the Ubuntu install, is there a place where the errors are logged?04:25
sparcthat i can get a console and look?04:25
twbsparc: vt404:26
sparcI'm on this out-of-band management console04:26
twbAlso /var/log/syslog04:26
sparcand i can't see the right half of the screen04:26
sparchmm ok, i did see syslog04:26
twbThat is, prior to finishing the install04:26
sparcmaybe i can find a way to make it wrap after 30 columns or something04:26
twbexport COLUMNS=30 maybe?04:26
sparcyeah, I get No root file system dr-04:26
sparcPlease correct this from -04:26
sparcheh04:27
twbOh, you're THAT guy04:27
sparcoh :(04:27
sparcpossibly04:27
sparci'm not trying to be upsetting04:31
twbSure, I just don't feel like dealing with your problem04:33
twbSomeone else might04:33
sparci didn't ask you specifically04:33
sparcbut ok04:33
sparchave fun04:33
jhansonxisparc: /var/log/syslog/installer/04:37
sparcfantastic, thanks i knew it was in here somewhere :)04:38
sparci was looking under casper04:38
sparcgood deal04:38
twbUh, casper's only present on the live CDs04:45
sparci interest you now :)04:46
twbsparc: it sounds like you installed using the desktop CD instead of the server CD04:56
sparcnope04:56
sparcthanks though04:57
sparci'm just now testing my preseed config, and working on a system with poor console access04:59
sparcit's my fault, and i should be testing on another sytem04:59
sparcand thank you for listening to my issue yesterday05:01
sparcyou probably don't often get thanks05:02
sparcmaybe i should be less persistent05:02
twbDon't worry about it05:12
twbThere are plenty of worse dickheads on freenode; if you annoy me enough I'll just ignore you, like I do them.05:13
gobbe:)06:03
sparci'm reluctant to ask, but it seems like partition in Kickstart is limitted to the first-lettered disk in a system06:20
sparcso if that ends up being a usb drive or something, then we're stuck with using partition recipes in preseed06:21
sparcwhich isn't the end of the world, of course06:22
sparcjust the end of kickstart06:22
sparcgobbe :)06:22
twbsparc: linux doesn't have "disk letters"06:25
sparcyou don't have to talk down to me :(06:25
sparcit might be better if you put me on ignore06:25
sparcblock devices do often have letters06:26
sparccl06:31
jmarsdensparc: As in "A hard drive, brought to you by the letters d, e, v, s, d and a ?  Why not rephrase your comment/question in terms that are either Linux-specific or (perhaps even better) OS-independent?  Doing so might demonstrate willingness to learn... and yes, thats a known limitation of the Ubuntu "port" of Kickstart, see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html06:33
sparci know i read that06:34
sparcdid you also think that that wasn't linux-specific?06:35
jmarsdenOK, so what exactly were you asking when you said "i'm reluctant to ask, but it seems like partition in Kickstart is limitted to the first-lettered disk in a system" ?  There's no other apparent question or uncertainty in there to address, is there?06:35
sparci was trying get other people's opinion about a limitation in the installtion?06:36
sparcdo you think that's off-topic for the channel?06:36
sparci could go, if you'd prefer06:36
sparci'm pretty friendly, honestly06:37
sparcwhich isn't really being returned in kind06:37
jmarsdenNo, that's on topic, I think, but I'm not sure that's what you said/asked...06:37
jmarsdenI think trying to suggest that "the first-lettered disk" is anything other than Windows-specific is... unlikely, shall we say.  so I looked for a question being asked, since you said "I'm reluctant to ask"... and apparently I guessed incorrectly as to what the question was.06:39
sparcscsi disks get assigned letters, like, sd[a-z], as we all know.  maybe i should be more specific, later on...06:40
sparci'm not asking a question, just discussing06:40
sparci've been automating installs and working on redhat since 2001 or so.   so far this week, i'm attempting to test ubuntu on our hardware in our datacenter.06:44
sparci thought it would be good to have a few discussions with people who also want to take ubuntu seriously06:44
sparcso i hope you don't think i'm wandering in, trying to replace vista for the first time on my desktopo06:44
sparcand asking impertinent questions06:45
sparcbecause that's not the case06:45
jmarsdenOK.  Prefixing something that you are not asking with "i'm reluctant to ask, but" may not have been clear.  I think you're a bit late for most folks in the USA and a bit early for the Europeans, so not many folks are around right now.06:46
sparcthat's okay, i'm not in any rush06:46
jmarsdenI think if you need maximum flexibility in automated Debian or Ubuntu installs, you should probably avoid Kickstart entirely and use Debian-native approaches instead, but I'm not any kind of expert on that.06:47
sparci agree, that sounds about like how it's turning out06:48
sparcthe initial kickstart support seems like a good direction though06:48
sparcmaybe in 11 it will look really nice06:48
sparci was excited to hear about the upcoming Cobbler support too06:49
sparcit is very helpful to be able to provision quickly, and be able to present a gui to other admins to use06:49
jmarsdenYes.  Looks like soren has been interested in Cobbler since 2008... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CobblerSpec06:51
jhansonxikickstart has a "preseed" command for Debian preseed settings.06:53
sparcyeah, i've been specifying my preseed config as a boot option, but maybe putting some of them in the kickstart file will change behavior some06:55
jhansonxiThe Ubuntu implementation has a lot of limits.  You only have %pre and %post sections for the most part and a few non-preseed settings like url, user, lang, timezone.06:55
sparcthe partitioning was the nicest feature i saw in the kickstart section of the automated deployment guide06:56
sparctoo06:56
twbI don't see why you would use the kickstart support at all06:56
sparcme either!06:56
sparchehe06:56
twbAFAICT it just provides a strict subset of the preseed functionality, in a fugly .spec-like file format06:57
sparcit has a nice declarative syntax, which is initially appealing06:57
twbsparc: preseed is inherently declarative06:57
sparci guess that's subjective06:57
jhansonxiI'm working on a huge kickstart script for Lucid.  99% of the effort is in the %post section.  I don't mess with the partitioning as my targets are home users with a wide variety of drives and/or RAID and/or LUKS/dm-crypt.06:57
sparccool06:58
jhansonxiI think I used kickstart as the name reminded me of kixtart (login script processor by M$ Norway) from my Windows days.06:58
sparchaha06:58
twbkickstart is a RH knock-off of Sun's jumpstart06:59
jhansonxiBiggest annoyance is that the %post (and %pre) script sections is parsed twice before ending up in /var/spool/kickseed/parse/pre/0.script on the installer's filesystem.  Every backslash has to be double-escaped (1:4 ratio).07:00
sparcit does work well, even tho RH gets a C for creativity07:01
sparcjhansonxi: ooh, yikes07:01
jhansonxiI actually wrote a tool to check them as it is an easy mistake to make and it kept messing up installs.07:02
sparcaah what a great idea07:02
sparcmaybe one day someone will make a lint for preseeds and kickstarts07:02
sparcso we know before we commit, if it's gonna blow up07:03
sparchehe07:03
sparci do wonder though, if there's some way to include shell from somewhere else in the %pre and %post07:03
sparcso you don't have to suffer from the escaping07:03
sparcmaybe i give it a try and share here if it goes well07:04
jhansonxiI also wrote a quote checking tool as mismatches were another problem:  http://jhansonxi.blogspot.com/2010/12/quote-count-debugging-tool-for-shell.html07:05
jhansonxiI'm signing off.  It's 02:00 here in Michigan, USA and I need my beauty rest.07:06
sparcok, thanks for talking about deploying ubuntu :)07:07
sparchave a good sleep07:07
jhansonxiI'll be posting my script mess on my blog in a few days when I get some deployment testing finished.  Bye.07:07
sparcyour work with ubuntu ce looks fun too07:07
sparchope that comes along07:08
sparcbye07:08
chrislabeardAnyone ever set up their server to work with time machine? I've followed 1 tutorial it worked for a little while then stopped.07:10
twb"time machine" the apple backup product?07:11
twbIsn't that OS X-specific?07:11
sparcno it's not, time machine can use samba share as network storage07:12
sparcchrislabeard: i did try, but i wasn't successful :(07:13
chrislabeardsparc: I got it to connect to the server and started backing up07:13
sparcmine wouldn't use the sparsefile bundle i made07:14
sparchah way to go07:14
chrislabeardand then stopped. now I can't connect to it, It asks for a password and username then just times out07:14
chrislabeardhttp://www.kremalicious.com/2008/06/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/07:14
twbI thought time machine was basically lvcreate --snapshot for HFS+, but whatever.07:26
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chrislabeardAnyone know why my server isn't broadcasting the shared volume to my computer? I have avahi configured correctly I think.08:28
sorenjmarsden: 2007. I just didn't write the spec until 2008.09:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #702265 in samba (main) "Error with overlapping idmap uids and gids " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70226509:16
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airtonixhi, for some reason I can't kill apache2. it's preventing a "service apache2 restart" operation11:30
oCeanservice apache2 stop fails? with error?11:30
airtonixoCean, no. but service apache2 start says that the port 80 is already in use, and then ps -fe | grep apache2 shows that it is still running. then an attempt of : for PID in `ps -fe | pgrep apache2`; do sudo kill $PID; done11:32
twbIIRC there are several ways to restart apache2, and -- at least in the sysvinit script -- only one of them is provided11:32
airtonixapache2 will not die11:32
twbairtonix: pastebin "ps auxf" output11:32
oCeanairtonix: try a kill -911:32
airtonixhttp://pastebin.com/vLajmGAK11:33
twbairtonix: that is not your entire tree.11:34
airtonixwhy do you need to see it all ?11:34
twbBecause I'm the guru and you're the querent.11:35
oCean:s11:35
oCeanairtonix: tried a 'sudo kill -9 1552' ?11:36
airtonixoCean, yes with no result11:36
airtonixapache still alive11:36
oCeanah, it's Ds, uninterruptable11:38
oCeanis a server reboot an option?11:39
airtonixunfortunately not at the moment11:39
oCeanuninterruptable sleep means the process will not be woken up by signals. It can be only woken up by what it's waiting for11:40
airtonixhow do i determine what it's waiting for ?11:41
oCeanvery difficult to tell. In this case it's probably the defunct process, which will never return, since it's zombie already. A reboot is the way to go here11:44
airtonixah think i understand now11:46
airtonixhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kill-d-process-339750/11:46
airtonixit's because (stupidly) the /var/www is actually symlinked to a dir on a external usb storage device11:46
airtonixand i vaguely remember it being disconnected during current session11:47
oCeanairtonix: that is probably it, yes11:50
compdocI have to have a server built and ready to install by this weekend, and Im trying to decide whether to use the customers copy of windows 2000 server or ubuntu. The problem is, for this one server, about 20 ppl hammer MS Access databases all day, and samba seems to have had issues with Access in the past. Is that still the case?11:56
oCeancompdoc: maybe try #samba also12:01
compdocI have - but its early12:01
compdocmaybe I should find the samba mailing list12:04
twbDoes ANYONE actually understand how quota grace times work?12:12
gobbeits documented12:17
gobbequite well12:17
pmatuliscompdoc: let me know if you find anything out about Samba/Access12:24
compdock12:25
twbgobbe: I guess it is, at that.12:27
twbMaybe I'm just grumpy because quota infrastructure feels so old-fashioned12:28
twbIs it a bad idea to set quotas *in advance* for all UIDs 1000 through 9999, even though I currently only have a couple dozen users?12:34
twbThe aquota.users only grew from 10kB to 400kB, which is hopeful12:34
airtonixany reason why you would think it is bad ? (adduser will run /usr/local/sbin/adduser.local when it finishes creating a user account)12:45
twbairtonix: well in a naïve example, the kernel might reread that file for every write operation12:48
twbMy users live in LDAP, on another host, so adduser.local won't work.12:48
twb(Unless I give the LDAP server RPC access (e.g. ssh) to the NFS server, which I'm loathe to do.)12:49
ttxDaviey: see https://code.launchpad.net/~termie/nova/db_migration/+merge/4607313:31
ttxhm, wrong channel13:31
laui am trying to automate remote package upgrades via a fabric task such as14:10
laurun('TERM=linux aptitude -q -y safe-upgrade')14:11
lauI added the TERM=linux in order to avoid some debconf error14:11
laubut I don't exactly understand it , can anyone explain his purpose ?14:11
twblau: what is TERM *before* you override it?14:17
lauhi twb , according to fabric run("echo $TERM") , TERM was "dumd" before I override it14:25
lauI would like to understand the relation between TERM and debconf , I am not sure I get the point14:26
twbOh, "fabric" is some kind of automation thing14:26
twbIt should be "dumb", not "dumd"14:26
lauyes dumb14:26
cap_00how can i copy /var/lib/backuppc/.ssh/ to /var/lib/backuppc.orig/.ssh/ ?14:26
twbYou should fix it by setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND to noninteractive (don't prompt at all) or readline.14:26
lauyou mean with DEBIAN_FRONTEND rather then with TERM=Linux ?14:27
twbYes.14:27
twbUgh, fabric is yet another NIH'd RPC framework.14:27
lauok I saw DEBIAN_FRONTEND in man 7 debconf14:28
twblau: it is definitely NOT correct to claim your terminal is linux when it only supports dumb.14:28
gobbecap_00: with -r flag14:29
RoyKcap_00: cp -R or cp -a or even 'man cp'14:29
cap_00for some reason that's only copying the  known_hosts, but i got it, i used rsync -av14:30
cap_00i wish there was just one copy command :S14:30
RoyKthat's the beauty of unix - there's always more ways to do things :)14:31
gobbeyep14:31
cap_00ok,,, new wish... i wish they all reacted the same way then14:31
gobbeuuh, my order from shop.canonical.com is arrived! need to go and pick it up from post :-)14:31
lauwith DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninterractive is dpkg impacted to ? I mean if a conf file changed does dpkg still ask to keep it or override with maintainer version ?14:32
gobbecap_00: what you are trying to achieve?14:32
cap_00i had two external backuppc drives, i created the .ssh key for rsync backuppc, and i needed to put that same .ssh folder on the other backuppc drive14:33
cap_00for some reason cp -r only copied the known_hosts and not the id_rsa or id_rsa.pub14:34
cap_00but rsync -av did14:34
gobbehow did you run it14:48
gobbeit should copy all files14:49
lautwb: don't know if you answered my last question do you ?14:53
compdocrsync is great14:53
twblau: DEBIAN_FRONTEND applies to debconf, which is invoked indirectly via dpkg.14:54
twblau: debconf is the thing that asks all the questions14:54
twblau: I don't know if it affects dpkg's "replace local conffile with new maintainer copy?" question.. I've never thought of that before...14:54
twblau: #debian or #debian-mentors on OFTC might know.14:55
jmylesSo it's my girlfriend / partner's birthday.  The only present she is asking for is to have access to all her data in a common pathname across our network, regardless of which machine she is sitting at.  I understand that openldap can accomplish this.  Is this correct?   What exactly is this feature called?  (OK, so she actually also wants to paint our living room, so I guess that's two birthday wishes.  But I think I can accomplish15:21
jmyles this one.)15:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #702404 in spamassassin (main) "cannot change scores in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf/local" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70240415:22
compdocjmyles, roaming profiles is one way15:23
RoyKjmarsden: what client OS?15:29
RoyKjmarsden: sorry - wrong nick - jmyles seems to have left, and autocomplete chose you :P15:30
jmylesRoyK: I'm here - I had to reboot my gateway.  What did i miss?15:34
cap_00i'm looking at doing the same thing shortly, i have windows only clients15:38
RoyKjmyles: what client OS are you using?15:39
resnodoes this http://dpaste.com/313319/ mean anything bad. (from auth.log)15:39
jmylesRoyk: always ubuntu15:39
RoyKthen a shared nfs storage on a server should work fine15:40
RoyKeither static mapping or with automount15:40
RoyKcap_00: for windows clients, see http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_&_Windows_Profiles15:41
jmylesRoyk: Sounds great!  My only question is this:  I see that it's easy to use NFS to 'share' a directory on the server and then have her manually mount it on whatever client, but how can I make it mount by virtue of her logging in?  I need ldap for that, right?  (Is that what you mean by 'automount')?15:43
RoyKautomount is a service for automatically mounting a filesystem when a dir is accessed15:44
RoyKldap (or nis) is needed for a shared user and group database15:44
RoyKin a small environment, having the same (numeric) userids on local accounts should suffice15:45
guhcamposI'm trying to install dsniff on a lab machine, but it requires libdb4.6. Ubuntu tries to download/install libdb4.6_4.6.21-16_i386 but receives a 404, browsing the repository I see there's only a libdb4.6_4.6.21-17_i386, package lists are updated, how can I force it to install the other version?15:45
RoyKsay, user roy has uid 110, create user roy on another machine with the same uid, and nfs will allow access to that file15:45
RoyKuid-based permissions are really simple15:46
RoyKand quite slack :P15:46
RoyKguhcampos: try another repository - probably something wrong there15:46
guhcamposRoyK, it's one of the official ones, it shoule be more reliable =(15:47
RoyKguhcampos: well, it should, but system failures happen to _all_ systems, official or not15:47
guhcamposwell I agree15:48
guhcamposthat's just weird15:48
jmylesRoyk: Great, thank you very much.  I will endeavor now.  :-)15:48
guhcamposI thought that as libdb4.6 is quite old maybe the maintainer just neglected it15:49
RoyKguhcampos: also, if you can browse and find the file, just download it and install it with dpkg15:50
resnodoes this http://dpaste.com/313319/ mean anything bad. (from auth.log)15:50
genii-aroundresno: It just looks like what happens there when apache starts up15:52
resnogenii-around: ah lol15:52
resnowell, i see it happening daily.. i hadnt done that15:53
RoyKresno: iirc logrotate will restart apache for you :P15:59
resnointeresting15:59
RoyKgotta do that to make apache release the old log file15:59
resnohow long is apache down?16:00
RoyKotherwise it'll keep on writing to the rotated one, even with a new name16:00
resnofew seconds im guessing16:00
RoyKresno: probably not even measurable16:00
RoyKan apache2ctl graceful is run iirc16:00
RoyKand that won't be noticable16:00
resnooh, even better ok16:00
resnofor sure16:00
resnomuch better then running a restart or something16:00
resnothanks RoyK16:01
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mathiazrobbiew: hi!16:03
mathiazrobbiew: how are you doing?16:03
SpamapSmathiaz: o/16:04
mathiazSpamapS: o/16:04
mathiazSpamapS: how is Dallas doing?16:05
mathiazrobbiew: I've finally figured out to transfer the ubuntuserver blog - should I transfer it to you?16:05
mathiazSpamapS: ^^?16:05
SpamapSmathiaz: quite well... though karaoke last night may have slowed us down a bit today. ;)16:05
SpamapSmathiaz: I believe we're transitioning it to an atlantic.net instance16:06
mathiazSpamapS: ok - so wordpress.com won't be used anymore?16:07
SpamapSmathiaz: that seems to be the idea yes16:08
robbiewmathiaz: yeah...you can transfer it, but we are moving away from wordpress.com....most likely this week16:08
mathiazrobbiew: ok16:08
AivarasKiviliusHello, May some one knows, why iftop don't shows anything?16:14
AivarasKiviliusinterface are correct (ifconfig shows that there is activity on venet0), but iftop -i venet0 don't show any thing. A bit strange?16:15
uvirtbotNew bug: #702433 in openssh (universe) "Graphical SSH passphrase prompt does not come up in front/foreground of guake terminal (focus)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70243316:21
lambda_xanybody knows if theres a way to make multipath use alias directive as mapper name (alias yellow -> /dev/mapper/yellow instead of /dev/mapper/mpath0) ? /var/lib/multipath/bindings says not to edit it by hand16:45
ignarpslambda_x, this can be done via a multipath.conf file16:47
lambda_xignarps: yup im setting multipath { wwn ... \n alias ... } but it still sets it as mpath016:48
lambda_xignarps: even when i do multipath -F, rm /var/lib/multipath/bindings, multipath -v2, it gets mpath0 name16:48
ignarpscan you post your multipath.conf file ?16:50
ignarpsdo you have alias defined for a multipath ?16:50
lambda_xignarps: woops, it just started to work, I assume16:55
lambda_xit happened because it was mapped previously as mpath016:56
ignarpsat least it is working16:56
lambda_xI still got one more question - volumes from FC array are visible as /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc, those are available under /dev/mapper/yellow now, when I try to use LVM - for instance vgdisplay I get /dev/sda: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: I/O error, but vgdisplay should not use /dev/sda16:58
lambda_xit is just a warning, it reports correctly, for different volume (in this case /dev/sdf1) but those warnings are a bit annoying16:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #702472 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70247217:06
psyferrehey folks,  I've got a windows server 2008 active directory domain with ubuntu clients joined using likewise-open.  Is there any way I can block traffic on all ports on an interface unless the remote host is a member of the domain?  Trying to configure good security for my cloud servers that I won't constantly have to change when I add a new server.17:12
RoyKpsyferre: 802.1x?17:32
hggdhmathiaz: good morning, can you accept zul on uec-testing-scripts-dev?17:35
psyferreRoyK: interesting... I hadn't thought about something like that.  I'd been trying to find some sort of firewall package that would support it.17:38
RoyKit's not really a firewall thing17:38
psyferreyeah17:38
psyferreThat's why my googling was coming up pretty empty :)17:39
RoyKhttp://www.stevens.edu/itwiki/w/index.php/Linux_802.1x17:40
psyferreSo, provided I can learn enough about this to understand what I'm doing... I could setup my domain controller to be a RADIUS authentication server and then set my machines up to accept only traffic from authenticated sources?17:40
RoyKthat was my thouht17:40
RoyKI've never setup such a system, though17:40
psyferrenice17:40
RoyKthought, even17:41
RoyKthis keyboard isn't as sensitive as the old one :P17:41
* RoyK just got a new i7-base 17" MBP :D17:41
psyferreI hadn't really thought about it, but I guess I could also just make the DC the gateway for a VPN, couldn't I?  And join the machines to that?  Or would that be more overhead that I don't need....17:41
RoyKbased, even17:41
gobbeRoyK: :)17:41
RoyKdamn17:41
psyferreniiiiiiiiice17:42
gobbeRoyK: our company is moving to apple (mac laptops and iphones), so i picked up 11.6" macbook air for my new machine :)17:42
psyferreIt's just too fast for your fingers17:42
RoyKcute :)17:42
RoyKI'd say using radius or ldap auth for the vpn should be doable, but using the DC as a gateway won't be my first choice17:43
RoyKmickysoft tend to say those things should be dedicated, for some reason17:43
psyferreFor security reasons?  Or performance reasons?17:43
psyferrei understand17:43
RoyKpsyferre: just for support reasons17:43
gobbeyep17:43
RoyKdedicating expensive hardware for a DC is outright stupid imho, but I guess MS says so to avoid problems17:44
gobbeand DC's aren't even heavy cpu/memory/network usage17:44
RoyKnot at all17:44
gobbethat's really stupid17:44
psyferreExactly... I've been trying to think of other uses for the server17:44
RoyKperhaps mickysoft has deals with dell/hp/ibm etc :P17:44
gobbei try to force people to think that opensource might provide all tools needed17:44
psyferreIt's a cloud server, so I'm not wasting hardware on it, but stilll...17:44
gobbeit's so easy to just pick windows17:44
RoyKgobbe: AD doesn't run well on linux, you know17:45
psyferreYeah... I tried and tried to get a domain controller on ubuntu with zentyal17:45
psyferreit was a nightmware17:45
RoyKand AD is a hell of a tool for managing a bunch of windows clients17:45
psyferrenightmare, even17:45
gobbeRoyK: AD in many companies are just for user database17:46
RoyKpsyferre: there are some stuff in the works for samba4, but I doubt it'll stabilise this month, perhps not this year17:46
gobbeRoyK: and there are quite many opensource ones for that :)17:46
RoyKgobbe: if you have 200 windows clients, you want AD, beleive me17:46
gobbeRoyK: that's true. but if you have 200 linux/osx machines, you dont17:46
RoyKnope17:47
psyferreRoyK: yeah, I saw that and got pretty wistful17:47
gobbebut hoever still many companies build ad and try to put machines there :)17:47
psyferreThanks for the advice, guys.  I really appreciate it.  Enjoy the new laptops :)17:48
RoyK:)17:48
gobbei don't have my new yet17:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #694059 in qemu-kvm "qemu fatal cp15 message report and image creation block" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69405918:07
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mathiazhggdh: done!18:54
hggdhmathiaz: thank you18:54
axisyswhy does ipmitool showing all the dimms are not readable ?19:27
axisysdmidecode shows they are installed.. do I need to modprobe any kernel for that?19:29
mogaj headphone not working in laptop using ubuntu 10.1019:33
mogaj headphone not working in laptop using ubuntu 10.1019:37
pmatulismogaj: wrong channel19:37
eagles0513875|2!apt-fix19:45
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:46
Wolfsherzhi, after updating my server today (apt-get update) service apache2 start does not work anymore, the reason is obvious when looking at /etc/init.d/apache*:20:38
Wolfsherz-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    0 2011-01-09 06:25 /etc/init.d/apache220:38
Wolfsherz-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6157 2010-11-18 22:18 /etc/init.d/apache2.120:38
Wolfsherzwhat has happened there? and how to fix it?20:38
webroasterswhy does the mailx command work from the terminal of my vps, but I cant send via Thunderbird?? Any help? I've been on the IRC for linode all day but I think they've been busy with other things. I can receive via Thunderbird. Also, I used this tutorial for setting up my vps: http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-ubuntu-10.10-maverick20:55
RoyKwebroasters: perhaps your local MTA has a problem?20:55
webroasterswhat do you mean20:55
webroastersi know what MTA is, but local?20:57
RoyKexim or postfix20:59
webroasterspostfix21:00
RoyKcheck the logs21:00
RoyKmailq will list queued emails21:00
webroastershttp://pastebin.com/cH7XJhdb   ..oh, the mail queue is empty21:01
webroastersthat's from mail.log21:01
zulmathiaz: thanks21:05
mathiazzul: you're welcome!21:05
RoAkSoAxkirkland: when you have the time can you sync this plz? bug #70259321:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 702593 in corosync "Please sync corosync 1.2.1-4 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70259321:12
webroastersanother question. I'll come back to the other one. How does one have 2 ssl certs on the same server? Is there something I'm missing from the virtualhosts file? I have *:443 set on both vhost files.21:16
jmarsden|workwebroasters: You need each one to be on a different IP address, if they will both use port 443.21:18
webroastersis there a way to do with virtualhosts?21:18
jmarsden|workNo, one port on one IP == one SSL certificate.  SSL handshake happens before any info about which virtual host is being requested is transferred, so you can't have 'virtual HTTPS hosts' sharing a port.21:19
jmarsden|workYou can put one of them on port 444 and use https://example.com:444 if you want.21:20
webroastersis there a way to cover up :444 with mod_rewrite??21:21
jmarsden|workI don't think so.  You can play with SSL certs with alternate names, if you are making your own certs, so you use one cert that handles both domain names... see http://www.crsr.net/Notes/Apache-HTTPS-virtual-host.html for some ideas on that.21:24
RoyKwebroasters: I think #httpd is a better place to ask for that21:25
RoyKand btw, virtualhosts with HTTP 1.1 rarely works well21:25
webroastersyeah, no worries21:25
webroastersthx guys21:25
RoAkSoAxDaviey: http://www.rabbitmq.com/pacemaker.html21:26
RoyKsince the initial HTTP GET must be sent securely, it's no chance for apache to find which one to choose21:26
DavieyRoAkSoAx, thanks21:27
webroastersI appreciate it. The other question i had was; is there a way to figure out why i can't send email with thunderbird?21:27
maxolasersquadDo the current plans for Natty include having MariaDB packaged?21:28
RoyKnfi - I use postgres :P21:28
jmarsden|workmaxolasersquad: use the rmadison command to find out: rmadison -s natty maria says:        maria |    1.3.5-2 | natty/universe | source, amd64, i38621:30
jmarsden|workSo looks like it is already there.21:30
maxolasersquadjmarsden|work: Thanks.  Good to hear.21:31
jmarsden|workYou're welcome.21:31
jcastroDaviey: want to come talk about uds?21:44
jmarsden|workmaxolasersquad: Looks like maria is not the same thing as mariadb... my mistake.21:51
maxolasersquadOh, interesting.21:51
yann2jcastro, where/when is the next uds btw?21:52
Davieyjcastro, err yeah... can do21:57
Davieyjcastro, room?21:57
hallynzul: when you get a chance, coudl I borrow some of your debian-foo?21:58
HypoglybeticI'm trying to setup my Apache web server and I am unable to modify/delete files.  Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Locations include /etc/ and /var/22:11
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: use sudo22:11
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: or root22:11
donvitohow to backup my ubuntu server22:12
donvito?22:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #702626 in euca2ools (main) "euca2ools published images do not run on ec2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70262622:12
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, I have tried that. I AM a root.  But I don't understand the concept of the terminal window.  For example, I have a terminal window open and it is sitting there at #.  Does that mean the GUI controls are also in #?22:12
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, I'm trying to use the Gui. I'm a GUI person.22:13
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: no GUI are included with ubuntu-server which is good...anyone running a server shouldn't want a GUI22:13
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: because of the overhead22:13
donvitohow to backup my ubuntu server22:14
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, Well I'm special and enjoy guis. :/ This web server is very basic. I also use it as a 24-hr machine leaving my IRC channels open and IM clients, etc.22:14
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: you may want to use the desktop version of ubuntu then.  Or you can look into ubuntu-desktop package22:15
Datzsc22:15
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, I have that installed now. . . I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.  I'm also talking to you from said machine.22:16
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, I am unable to right click and delete files, rename, or create directories.22:16
jmarsden|workHypoglybetic: For GUI support questions, you should ask in #ubuntu, not here.22:16
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: bring up a terminal and do sudo nautilus22:17
Hypoglybeticjmarsden, I'm sorry.  I thought it would be okay since nothing is going on in here and it is about a server related issue.22:18
Hypoglybeticthesheff17,  I tried that, nothing happened?22:18
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, Oh wait, this time it worked.22:19
jmarsden|workIt is?  Using the GUI isn't really a server-related issue, is it?  Not a big problem, but you're more likely to find GUi experts in #ubuntu than here.22:19
jmarsden|workdonvito: See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/backups.html for some ideas22:19
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: to edit files you can do sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default or whatever file you want to edit22:20
Hypoglybeticthesheff17 sudo nautilus was exactly what I was looking for.  It is what I wanted.22:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #702641 in samba (main) "samba.schema missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70264122:36
donvito.nertil@Maverick:/$ sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/nertil/mybackup22:46
donvitothis was the answer frakers22:46
eric_hilldonvito: Good thing you figured that out.  Try restoring a file sometime to make sure it works.22:50
Aaronpoweruserhow long should ubuntu server saty onh the unpakoing tzdata page its been about 20 minutes with no progress?23:04
uvirtbotNew bug: #702659 in openldap (main) "sed: can't read /etc/ldap/slapd.d//cn=config.ldif: No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70265923:17
HypoglybeticCan anyone in here help me with Apache (virtual servers)? Or at the very least with removing a symbolic link? the RM command didn't help.23:18
yann2Hypoglybetic, yuo have to ask the full question so we know if we can help23:20
HypoglybeticI am trying to setup a virtual server.  It isn't working.  The last step I  was to create a symbolic link.  I did it wrong. I can't undo it (rm command) and Apache Fails the Start Test.23:22
HypoglybeticSo I need help undoing my error and getting the virtual server running.  I keep getting errors that the folder I've chosen does not exist.23:22
thesheff17Hypoglybetic: try sudo rm to remove the symbolic link23:39
jeiworthhi all, need some help with a cron script.. i am doing an implementation for a  client where i extract various .csv-files from his (filemaker *yuk*) db and then concatenate those files to one multiline csv. apparently this can not be run server side, so there are basically 2 solutions: a) create a share where the script is located and everyone has rx access or b) (and this is what the client prefers) to have the script run via cron every minute23:40
jeiworthor so. now, the script i created does not really handle multiple sets so i was hoping one of you guys could help me a bit...23:40
Hypoglybeticthesheff17, I fixed it.  I fixed everything.  I was in the wrong darn directory. >_< Thanks though!23:42
twbjeiworth: that would be "* * *  * *  foo"23:43
jeiworthhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/553814/23:43
jeiworthtwb, hehe yes, my problem is not creating the cron job, it's the script itself handling more than one set of files at a time ;)23:43
twbThat sounds more like question for #bash23:44
jeiworthon set consistes of a 3-digit prefix followed by a unique name23:44
jeiworthok, thx ;)23:44
twbAssuming you're scripting it in bash, of course23:44
twbOtherwise #perl or #python or whatever.23:44
jeiworthas you can see in the pastebin that is the case ;)23:44
twbOh right.23:44

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