[00:19] <jacob> BiosElement gilbert: sorry for missing, I had work until 6:45 today :/
[00:31] <dmcglone> Hi Unit193
[00:31] <dmcglone> whats up?
[00:36] <dmcglone> Did I miss the meeting?
[00:36] <jacob> dmcglone: has not started yet -- 8pm :)
[00:36] <dmcglone> Ah thanks :-)
[00:36] <dmcglone> Unit193 did you fall asleep?
[00:38] <dmcglone> nocash: about to rob the room? won't get much, we're all broke.. ;-)
[00:39] <nocash> charge it!
[00:40] <dmcglone> lol
[00:41] <nocash> just b
[00:54] <spwelton> hey all, heard there's a meeting in a few
[00:54] <jacob> you heard right
[00:54] <gilbert> greetings all :)
[00:55] <jacob> evenin' gilbert
[00:55] <spwelton> just got back from loco
[00:56] <gilbert> jacob: no problem, space was sparse
[00:57] <BiosElement> jacob: It's fine, we only had one spare seat anyway heh
[00:57] <cement_head> hello
[00:57] <jacob> :P
[00:57] <jacob> i still feel bad for missing these things
[00:58] <BiosElement> You'd have felt worse sitting under the table :P
[00:59] <jacob> hehe
[00:59] <dmcglone> jacob: I feel bad missing too, but thats life ;-)
[01:00] <jacob> indeed it is
[01:01] <canthus13> I'm here. sorta.
[01:01] <gilbert> so, jacob, do you want to lead the discussion?
[01:01] <cement_head> what's on the agenda?
[01:02] <jacob> gilbert: sure, I suppose, unless you've got things to talk about (I don't really. ;) )
[01:02] <gilbert> i don't have anything specific
[01:02] <thafreak> Ok. I'm here
[01:02]  * Cheri703 is here
[01:02] <tnseditor> hi everyone
[01:02] <Unit193> Hey tnseditor
[01:03] <jacob> First up, I suppose I'll bring up something SMK sent us
[01:03] <jacob> evening tnseditor
[01:03] <tnseditor> hi Unit193!
[01:03] <tnseditor> hi jacob :)
[01:04] <jacob> there's a bit of cash left over in the OLF pool - $57.21. what should be done with this? should it be saved for OLF 2011, donated somewhere, or used for something else?
[01:04] <JonathanD> save it, man.
[01:04] <gilch> i vote to save it for OLF 2011
[01:04] <tnseditor> saved is good :)
[01:04] <gilbert> i agree
[01:04] <JonathanD> 5721 pennies saved is 5721 pennies earned.
[01:04] <BiosElement> Save it heh
[01:04] <Cheri703> not trying to be greedy :D but in the spring sometime, I'm hoping to have a geek-nic of sorts here in mansfield, so if it could be tagged for "LoCo events" and not OLF specifically, that'd be good...
[01:04] <Cheri703> maybe?
[01:05] <jacob> my thoughts as well :)
[01:05] <JonathanD> Cheri703: a geeknic, eh? :)
[01:05] <Cheri703> yep, get as many people to a centralized location as possible
[01:05] <JonathanD> make sure you tell me so I can get it listed on the site...
[01:05] <jacob> I mean it is for LoCo events, so it can really be used when needed
[01:05] <Cheri703> I'm sort of in the middle
[01:05] <Cheri703> ok
[01:05] <JonathanD> geeknic.org, I mean
[01:06] <jacob> all right, so for the time being, we'll save it for OLF or other events, which we can figure out when the time comes. any other thoughts?
[01:06] <JonathanD> invest it in a high interest account. Then you'll have 5723 pennie.
[01:06] <JonathanD> *s
[01:07] <gilbert> hehe
[01:07] <tnseditor> :p
[01:07] <jacob> :D
[01:07] <gilbert> buy tacos for everyone in the loco?
[01:07] <tnseditor> :p
[01:07] <canthus13> Mmm... tacos.
[01:07] <tnseditor> omnomnomnom
[01:08] <jacob> Next up, then, is also from SMK
[01:08] <jacob> he mentions that we should fortify communication in the LoCo, to keep everyone connected.
[01:08] <cement_head> good idea
[01:09] <gilbert> any ideas on how we can do that better?
[01:09] <thafreak> how is this suggested?
[01:09] <jacob> Burning Circle, the Ohio podcast, is one way of getting the word out, and it's highly recommended that ReLoCo leads (or anyone) that want to spread information forward it to him
[01:09] <BiosElement> Magic? ;)
[01:09] <jacob> Magic indeed... :P
[01:09] <Cheri703> can we have a show of hands on who listens to the podcast? I'm not really a podcast person :/
[01:09] <BiosElement> I don't really see how it could be improved. As long as other reloco leads can contact their counterparts, it sounds pretty fortified to me
[01:10]  * canthus13 will do so if/when something of note happens in Toledo. :)
[01:10] <jacob> I listen on occasion -- it's a fairly short podcast :)
[01:10] <tnseditor> I haven't listened yet
[01:11] <jacob> (to be blunt, I'm not sure what can be improved with our existing infrastructure)
[01:11] <BiosElement> +1 to jacob
[01:11] <Cheri703> jacob: we could also have a "reloco report" section of the general meetings...
[01:11] <tnseditor> right :)
[01:11] <jacob> though the forum/mailing list disconnect does make some communication tricky, but there's not a whole lot that can be done at the moment about that.
[01:11] <BiosElement> Unless we send someone with an axe and force them to talk to each other
[01:11] <dmcglone> jacob: Was Paul Tag that good?
[01:11] <BiosElement> And then it'd just turn into knock-knock jokes >.>
[01:11] <jacob> Cheri703: I like the sound of that.
[01:11] <canthus13> Covert ops.
[01:12] <jacob> dmcglone: of course :D
[01:12] <canthus13> slip live CDs into every machine in Best Buy. :)
[01:13] <jacob> Anyway, that's something to think about: if you notice issues with getting the word out anywhere, let us know. and make use of the podcast; it is a useful thing!
[01:13] <gilbert> i do listen to the podcast.  i wonder if we could help get the word out about that a bit more
[01:13] <spwelton> where is the podcast?
[01:13] <jacob> we could also set up news reports or whatnot on the website, if people want that.
[01:13] <jacob> spwelton: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/burningcircle
[01:14] <spwelton> cool, bookmarked
[01:14] <gilbert> i think smk's concern is that he asks for feedback/call-ins from relocos, but no one every really does that
[01:14] <Cheri703> I'll try to make more of an effort to do so
[01:14] <jacob> ^
[01:15] <BiosElement> But then the point ramains, why call in if there's nothing new up? I think that's half the problem.
[01:15] <gilbert> perhaps we could send him email addresses so he can do a manual contact with everyone instead of just waiting for people to take the initiative on their own
[01:15] <gilch> i'm sorry. smk is?
[01:15] <tnseditor> Honestly, Lima hasn't met for half a year :\
[01:15] <gilbert> tnseditor: you're the lima lead?
[01:15] <tnseditor> yes
[01:15] <jacob> BiosElement: yeah, it's a fair point
[01:16] <tnseditor> but we haven't had a very good turn out and I've been busy
[01:16] <gilbert> smk is the guy who has been putting together the podcast
[01:16] <gilch> gotcha. thanks gilbert
[01:16] <gilbert> tnseditor: is there anyone in the area that you can tap to help out?
[01:17] <BiosElement> Maybe we should start handing out cd's or something on campus, get a tad more agressive with things. Already people recoginize the logo and comment to me pretty often. Just have to be a bit more proactive.
[01:17] <tnseditor> the only other person that's a user and has attended meetings is from Defiance
[01:17] <gilbert> tnseditor: it may be helpful to have a second-in-command in each area
[01:17] <jacob> (on a sidenote, Ubuntu is all I hear about from people in my CSE 360 class)
[01:17] <gilbert> BiosElement: i totally agree, we should be doing some proactive things like that
[01:17] <Cheri703> www.spreadubuntu.org is a good place to download printable cd covers and such
[01:17] <Cheri703> or flyers
[01:18] <BiosElement> Or both heh
[01:18] <jacob> Cheri703: +1
[01:18] <gilbert> BiosElement: doing it in spring time will be a lot better since ppl are out and about
[01:18] <BiosElement> In fact
[01:18] <dmcglone> Lets go door to door :P
[01:18] <BiosElement> We should get some flyers for every ubuntu hour at least
[01:18]  * Cheri703 made a little "circle of friends" sign for the table for our ubuntu hours, figure if someone recognizes it, they'll say hi
[01:18] <Cheri703> it doesn't have words, just the logo
[01:19]  * tnseditor just listened to the podcast.  It sounds good and professional :)
[01:19] <gilbert> Cheri703: cool.  it that a printed sign or just a paper print out?
[01:19]  * canthus13 has ubuntu stickers on his laptop, carries some of teh business cards with his google voice # on the back.
[01:19] <jacob> by the way, I've still got that Ubuntu Ohio sign and a teeny stack of buisness cards left -- let me know if you want to use them for an event
[01:19] <gilbert> tnseditor: smk actually does a really good job.  the problem is like no one knows about it
[01:19] <BiosElement> Stupid idea but
[01:19] <BiosElement> http://www.spreadubuntu.org/en/material/poster/your-free-alternative-v2-ink-saving
[01:19] <Cheri703> paper print-out on heavy paper, I folded it into sort of a tent card
[01:19] <BiosElement> ^Might be useful too
[01:19] <Cheri703> I can send you the file if you want, it's a pdf
[01:20] <gilbert> Cheri703: yeah, that would be great
[01:20] <Cheri703> just circle of friends, and for the back side, some lines for folding points
[01:20] <Cheri703> pm your email if you want it
[01:21] <Cheri703> jacob: let me know if you'd like a report on our loco :)
[01:22] <Cheri703> *reloco
[01:22]  * Cheri703 has a lot going on right this minute
[01:23] <jacob> Cheri703: if you want, send it to the council email, but no pressure. SMK might like it for the podcast, though ;)
[01:23] <Cheri703> ok
[01:23] <jacob> which, btw, we should probably publicize that council email somewhere.
[01:23] <cement_head> that poster is way cool
[01:23] <gilbert> jacob: perhaps we should give each of the loco leads to describe what they've been up to in their communities lately?
[01:23] <gilbert> jacob: and whether they need our help/feedback with anything
[01:24] <jacob> gilbert: yes, I like the sound of that
[01:24] <cement_head> I was thinking of getting an "install fest" happing in Oxford, OH
[01:24] <cement_head> Home to Miami University (~15,000 students)
[01:24] <cement_head> and the general public
[01:24] <jacob> that's certainly an idea
[01:25] <cement_head> maybe at a local coffee shop?
[01:25] <cement_head> Has anyone tried something like this before?
[01:25] <cement_head> like in Columbus at OSU?
[01:25] <jacob> there's a page on the wiki about install fests with some tips, i'll try to dig that up real quick
[01:25] <Cheri703> cement_head: if you're doing an install-fest, you might want to do it somewhere that is inclusive for people without laptops...just a thought
[01:25] <cement_head> great, thanks
[01:25] <gilbert> cement_head: we haven't really done an "installfest" in columbus
[01:25] <cement_head> right
[01:25] <jacob> there was one somewhere around here if I recall correctly
[01:26] <jacob> might not have been recently
[01:26] <Cheri703> I would like to get some more people who are interested, but not using ubuntu (at least a few) before attempting one up here. people just don't know what it is to know if they want to install it
[01:26] <dmcglone> gilbert: I would definitely try to make it to one
[01:27] <gilbert> jacob: it may be something to try since we've got lots of people at the university.  i've got the open source club president's approval to flyer up the university for our stuff also
[01:28] <jacob> gilbert: yeah, I agree, it's probably a good thing to try
[01:28] <tnseditor> hi itsafork.  Are you a relative of sporks or foons?
[01:28] <Cheri703> I'd think if doing an install-fest that you'd need a. lots of plugs, and b. wired internet available (or at least the capability to bridge wireless/wired on some of the laptops)
[01:28] <tnseditor> :P
[01:28] <Cheri703> many people can't get internet til wifi driver is installed...
[01:28] <Cheri703> perhaps not with 10.10 though
[01:28] <cement_head> several people have put UNR on their netbook and ditched the crippled M$ W7 install
[01:28] <itsafork> hey guys, sorry i'm late
[01:28] <dmcglone> Thats true Cheri703
[01:29] <cement_head> does 10.10 have wifi issues?
[01:29] <cement_head> 10.04 seemed pretty solid
[01:29] <jacob> yes, wire access and power are the main things
[01:29] <jacob> well Broadcom is still pretty shaky
[01:29] <dmcglone> My laptop takes the proprietary driver thats not included on the CD
[01:29] <cement_head> I was thinking of using 10.04
[01:29] <Cheri703> ok, unless you can bridge the connections, a coffee shop might not be the best idea :/
[01:29] <itsafork> i've heard of a number of people having issues with wifi drivers in 10.10
[01:29] <Cheri703> with 10.04 you have to install the drivers
[01:29] <cement_head> Yeah, maybe a room at the University that has ethernet
[01:30] <itsafork> but primarily only with HP tablet pcs
[01:30] <cement_head> or, a coffee shop at the university....
[01:30] <cement_head> OR,....a bar at the university....YEAH
[01:30] <cement_head> well, maybe not
[01:30] <cement_head> got a bit excited
[01:30]  * Cheri703 is against activities at bars
[01:30] <jacob> :P
[01:30] <Cheri703> if people want to drink, go do it after
[01:31] <Cheri703> half of our last ubuntu hour were people under 18 :/
[01:31] <Cheri703> so...that wouldn't be real inclusive
[01:31] <Unit193> Less then half...
[01:31] <Cheri703> and I have a few friends who are young moms who use it (not locally) and they can't bring their kids
[01:31] <cement_head> easy, it was a joke
[01:31] <cement_head> i'm not going to a bar to use a computer
[01:32] <Cheri703> some people have ubuntu hours at pubs
[01:32] <cement_head> really?  where?
[01:32] <gilbert> Cheri703: the uk
[01:32] <itsafork> mostly in europe
[01:32] <cement_head> ahh....civilisation
[01:32] <jacob> where the age issue isn't an issue
[01:32] <Cheri703> I've heard of some in the US too, maybe not the GENERAL ones, but they do have them
[01:33] <Cheri703> Unit193: a significant portion
[01:33] <itsafork> i have heard of a few ubuntu hours out in california being held in pubs
[01:33] <cement_head> anyway, maybe there's a CUG (Cincy User Group) that'd help out
[01:34] <cement_head> anyone from Cincy here?
[01:34] <jacob> location is the main hurdle, once that's figured out the rest is much easier
[01:34] <cement_head> I'll work on that and post to the listserv
[01:34] <gilbert> so, its certainly something we can try here in columbus in the next few months
[01:35] <jacob> cement_head: send an email to the mailing list if you can't find anyone, I'm sure there are some people out there willing to help you out
[01:35] <gilbert> and we can spread a how to to the rest of the state to try out as well
[01:35] <cement_head> send me the link to the install-fest wiki if you find it
[01:35] <jacob> righto
[01:35] <cement_head> okay
[01:35] <cement_head> got to go
[01:35] <cement_head> cu all
[01:35] <jacob> cement_head: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallFest
[01:36] <jacob> d'oh, too soon.
[01:36] <gilbert> Cheri703: the feedback :)
[01:36] <Cheri703> ?
[01:36] <jacob> though... the page looks to be blanked...
[01:36] <itsafork> i can always find us a few pubs to try holding ubuntu hours at if you guys are really interested in doing that
[01:36] <itsafork> in c-bus that is
[01:37] <dmcglone> itsafork, we already have it at panera
[01:37] <jacob> itsafork: i'm not strictly opposed to having them in pubs, but it does impose a perceived age barrier
[01:37] <gilbert> itsafork: there are lots of bars in cbus, but i don't think they guys here are really into that type of environment when it comes to ubuntu
[01:38] <dmcglone> I'm not gilbert
[01:38] <dmcglone> No bars here
[01:38]  * Cheri703 wouldn't go...
[01:38] <Cheri703> :/
[01:38] <Cheri703> panera is working well for us so far in mansfield
[01:38]  * Unit193 Couldn't go
[01:39] <Cheri703> though table space will be an issue if we get any more people. I might have to go early to stake out the big table
[01:39] <jacob> Panera's a nice environment and location, it's just been pretty crowded this year
[01:39] <dmcglone> It would be nice to have the meets somewhere away from the hectic campus
[01:39] <gilbert> yeah, i like panera, its a good environment: food, free wifi, etc
[01:39] <itsafork> just for the record, i was referring to 'pubs' not 'bars'. pub's are at least 18+.
[01:40] <jacob> there are some places on the columbus south campus gateway as well, though off the top of my head they'd likely be just as crowded
[01:40] <gilbert> jacob: yeah, i've been thinking the same thing.  last year we never had problems finding a place to sit, now we are lucky to get a little table
[01:40] <dmcglone> Tim Hortons is good too
[01:40] <itsafork> also, i'm catching a few things here, so i think for the time being, we will stear away from both pubs & bars for hosting ubunut hours
[01:40] <Cheri703> mansfield doesn't have tim horton's :(
[01:40] <jacob> :o
[01:40] <tnseditor> We're finally getting one and a Cold Stone in the same building
[01:40] <dmcglone> I take my laptop to TH a lot
[01:40] <Cheri703> it makes me sad
[01:41] <gilbert> itsafork: i wouldn't take anything off the table.  it should be up to the reloco leads how/where they want to have their meetings
[01:41]  * Cheri703 loves their cruller donuts
[01:41] <jacob> gilbert: +1
[01:41] <tnseditor> how are their prices?
[01:41] <dmcglone> lol Cheri703 I'll send you one in the mail
[01:41] <jacob> tnseditor: reasonable, I think.
[01:41] <itsafork> gilbert: that's a really good point, thank you
[01:41] <dmcglone> ;-)
[01:41] <tnseditor> jacob: good
[01:41] <tnseditor> :p
[01:41] <jacob> in fact, I think it's a little better value than Panera, if you're going for that type of food
[01:41] <gilbert> ok, do we have any more items on the agenda to move on to?
[01:42] <jacob> gilbert: none here
[01:42] <dmcglone> I just want to say location
[01:42] <Cheri703> I'd like to quickly report on our ReLoCo, if possible
[01:42] <gilbert> ok, so i wanted to ask if anyone (reloco leads other members) what they want/need from the council?
[01:43] <gilbert> what can we do better to make this a great community?
[01:43] <dmcglone> location change :-)
[01:43] <gilbert> Cheri703: go ahead while others ponder my questions
[01:43] <Cheri703> well, we went from one person, to two people, to 3 people, to 5 at the last one :) I've been telling people, and I have run out of Ubuntu-Ohio business cards...
[01:44] <Cheri703> so we're gaining a wee bit of momentum :)
[01:44] <gilbert> thats great Cheri703!  jacob has some more business cards and so do i
[01:44] <gilbert> thats awesome to hear
[01:44] <Cheri703> I might just print up some on my own. I have business card blanks
[01:45] <Cheri703> if someone could scan one or send me what the text says, I can create an equivalent
[01:45] <jacob> I've got about 100 cards left at home, and can always order more
[01:45] <itsafork> dmcglone: how so? should we all move to the Bahamas?!?
[01:45] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[01:45] <Cheri703> itsafork: I think he's referring to parking/ease of access
[01:45] <Cheri703> if anyone wanted to send me some, I'd be appreciative :)
[01:45] <jacob> Cheri703: I can send you the template, if you want that
[01:45] <Cheri703> ok, yeah, that'd be great
[01:46] <dmcglone> itsafork: somewhere off OSU campus
[01:46] <canthus13> Teh bahamas sounds good right about now.
[01:46]  * Cheri703 @gmail.com
[01:48] <gilbert> are there any other reloco leads here that would like to give a brief update on whats going on in their area?
[01:50] <itsafork> hey everyone,  what about the Cup O' Joe in Clintonville for ubuntu hours???
[01:50]  * thafreak is Akron Lead (atleast the last time I checked)
[01:50] <itsafork> for the c-bus ubuntu hour that is
[01:50] <gilbert> hey thafreak, what's been going on up there lately?
[01:50] <thafreak> Sadly, nothing to report for akron...I just finished school mid december...then holidays...so I'm just now getting un busy
[01:51] <gilbert> thafreak: well, let us know if you need help with anything
[01:51] <thafreak> I'd like to try to do some outreach with the local LUGs though...
[01:51] <thafreak> I know some people from akron lug, and there used to be one here in Medina county too...
[01:51] <thafreak> the mclug
[01:52] <thafreak> (not a sandwich)
[01:52]  * Cheri703 recently found out that there's an active LUG in mansfield, but it might meet on similar nights as the ubuntu hours :/ and when I was searching a while back, there was no sign of it
[01:52] <gilbert> itsafork: osu is really convenient, but we could try heading up there at some point.  we could maybe use a change from the routine
[01:52] <thafreak> Yeah, local lugs can be hard to get ahold of sometimes!
[01:52] <dmcglone> There is an active LUG here in columbus that I attend every so often
[01:53] <dmcglone> COLUG
[01:53] <jacob> Cheri703: sent
[01:53] <Cheri703> kk
[01:54] <gilbert> ok, so any thoughts on feedback for the council? what can we do to make ubuntu ohio great?
[01:55] <Cheri703> I think getting people together more often than just OLF (getting multiple relocos together), hence why I want to have a gathering in the spring
[01:55] <thafreak> ninjas
[01:55] <tnseditor> Cheri703:  sounds good :)
[01:55] <thafreak> yeah, that sounds fun too
[01:55] <Cheri703> the local groups know each other, but if people don't participate in the forum or irc, then they don't know OTHER people
[01:56] <Cheri703> *outside the reloco
[01:56] <jacob> good point
[01:56] <itsafork> Cheri703: good point
[01:56] <thafreak> I agree, I think some statewide gatherings besides OLF would be awesome
[01:56] <gilbert> Cheri703: that would be awesome.  we could also try a loco trip to another loco
[01:57] <Cheri703> yeah gilbert, I do think the ubuntu-pilgrimage idea would be helpful, just have to prime the area for it first :)
[01:57] <gilbert> like columbus could visit mansfield on the weekend
[01:57] <gilbert> well for an afternoon on the weekend, not all weekend
[01:57] <dmcglone> why don't we plan an event where all the Ohio ubuntu locos meet
[01:57] <Cheri703> yeah, that sort of thing for an install-fest or a "hand out flyers" day would be awesome, having extra hands
[01:58] <Cheri703> dmcglone: that'll be at my house :) if everyone can make it to mansfield
[01:58] <Cheri703> though it'll be a distance for the southern relocos
[01:58] <dmcglone> it's got to be in the center of Ohio :-)
[01:58] <dmcglone> that way it not such a long drive for everyone
[01:58] <Cheri703> so perhaps have regional ones (north/south) and then a BIG one? dunno
[01:58] <dmcglone> but only like once a year
[01:59] <canthus13> Hmm. If it's on a Saturday, we could probably make it.
[01:59] <dmcglone> most everyone makes it to OLF right
[01:59] <jacob> I think so
[02:00] <dmcglone> I mean it could be an OLF but only consisting of well.. Us
[02:00] <dmcglone> lol
[02:00] <canthus13> OUF?
[02:00] <jacob> it's definitely an idea
[02:00] <dmcglone> OUF sounds like a good name
[02:01] <gilbert> that was kind of done the day before OLF
[02:01] <itsafork> i like the sound of OUF
[02:01] <Cheri703> Perhaps in the first half of the year, there could be a northern/southern thing, then the ubu-con at OLF?
[02:01] <itsafork> & maybe even try getting some of our neighbor states involved too!
[02:01] <dmcglone> Cheri703: what about the east/west?
[02:02] <gilbert> itsafork: except for michigan of course ;)
[02:02] <dmcglone> lol gilbert
[02:02] <itsafork> lol
[02:02] <Cheri703> well, spanning across (I drive to lima ALL the time, I guess I don't see it as that long a drive :/ )
[02:03] <dmcglone> well I think if we could find a meeting place in the middle of the state, it would work pretty good
[02:03] <gilbert> well, its been about an hour, so we should try to wrap this up.  any final thoughts/feedback?
[02:04] <itsafork> OLF is in september, what if we tried to have OUF in March???
[02:04] <dmcglone> sounds good tome
[02:05] <tnseditor> sounds pretty good :)
[02:05] <dmcglone> warm weather, road trip... Hmmm
[02:05] <dmcglone> I'm all for it
[02:05] <jacob> +1
[02:05] <gilbert> seems reasonable; although thats a bit soon (in terms of finding space for it)
[02:05] <gilbert> and it might be a bit better if it were a warmer month
[02:05] <dmcglone> gilbert, any restaurant would be happy to see us coming
[02:05] <itsafork> gilbert: good point, warmer is better
[02:05] <Cheri703> dmcglone: you'd want plugs/wifi available
[02:06] <Cheri703> and I think not basing it around food would probably be good...
[02:06] <jacob> let's reserve the convention center! (kidding, that's expensive.)
[02:06] <Cheri703> maybe, I dunno
[02:06] <Cheri703> have food, but not AT a food location
[02:06] <dmcglone> McDonalds, Tim Hortons, Wendys take your pick
[02:06] <gilbert> what would the format be?  just like a big ubuntu hour?  like an ubuntu dinner?
[02:06] <gilbert> presentations, or just discussion?
[02:06] <Cheri703> well, my thing will be pretty casual
[02:06] <dmcglone> one huge ubuntu 2 hours
[02:06] <gilbert> haha dmcglone
[02:07] <paultag> that would be tit
[02:07] <dmcglone> everything gilbert
[02:07] <paultag> ss
[02:07] <Cheri703> gilbert: I'd lean away from being at a business
[02:07] <paultag> hello, world
[02:07] <tnseditor> hi paultag
[02:07] <Cheri703> hey paultag
[02:07] <paultag> heyya tnseditor, Cheri703
[02:07] <jacob> heya paultag
[02:07] <gilbert> hey paultag!
[02:07] <paultag> hayya jacob, gilbert <3
[02:07] <dmcglone> Hi paultag
[02:07] <gilbert> you totally missed the meeting :(
[02:07] <paultag> howdy dmcglone!
[02:07] <paultag> gilbert: dude, I know! Sorry!
[02:07] <itsafork> i think maybe have it like ubucon, talks with a little bit of open discussoins
[02:07] <paultag> gilbert: I tried to get back, but my g'ma needed some help
[02:08] <itsafork> paultag: where did you come from?!?
[02:08] <Cheri703> do we have any "no, absolutely not" locations?
[02:08] <paultag> itsafork: ....my mom?
[02:08] <itsafork> paultag: lol
[02:08] <Cheri703> I can ask around for venues in cbus, want somewhere that we could set up tables/plugs perhaps? dunno
[02:08] <dmcglone> Cheri703: White Castle is out of the question, they make me fart! LOL
[02:08] <tnseditor> hhahahaha
[02:09] <gilbert> panera's usually have a meeting room that you can reserve
[02:09] <itsafork> dmcglone: agree!
[02:09] <gilbert> although the one at osu doesn't
[02:09] <Cheri703> ours doesn't...
[02:09] <itsafork> gilbert: will that be large enough???
[02:09] <tnseditor> both of ours don't
[02:09] <dmcglone> even libraries have wi-fi don't they?
[02:09] <gilbert> a library may be good
[02:09] <Unit193> How about at dmcglone's house? ;)
[02:09] <itsafork> dmcglone: some do, some don't
[02:09] <dmcglone> and libraries have private rooms I think
[02:10] <dmcglone> Unit193 come on down :-)
[02:10] <Cheri703> gilbert: Columbus main library has meeting rooms, and a parking garage that isn't stupid expensive
[02:10] <Cheri703> Unit193: we can carpool
[02:10] <gilbert> Cheri703: is that downtown?
[02:10] <Cheri703> yeah
[02:10] <dmcglone> Cheri703: but it has to be in the middle of the state
[02:10] <itsafork> Cheri703: GREAT POINT!!!
[02:11] <gilbert> Cheri703: kinda sad that i don't know that since i've lived here so long
[02:11]  * Cheri703 hearts the main library
[02:11] <Cheri703> dmcglone: columbus main library
[02:11] <dmcglone> gilbert: no the main lib is not downtown
[02:11] <Cheri703> it's right next to grant hospital
[02:11] <Cheri703> = downtown to me
[02:11] <dmcglone> it's off of broad st west of downtown
[02:11] <Cheri703> like 2 blocks west
[02:11] <thafreak> Just to be extra nerdy, some one should find the gps coords of the EXACT center of ohio
[02:11] <itsafork> dmcglone: it's by the corner of Grant Ave. & Oak St.
[02:11] <dmcglone> 2?
[02:11] <paultag> thafreak: haahahha
[02:11] <dmcglone> nah more like 2 miles
[02:12] <Cheri703> well, a few blocks from high/broad
[02:12] <thafreak> even if it's the middle of a freeway, we should all meet there
[02:12] <gilbert> dmcglone: thats pretty close to downtown (at least what i consider downtown)
[02:12] <paultag> thafreak: and go there, just like the random farm in the "middle" of the USA
[02:12] <canthus13> thafreak: Shoulda known someone in here already would have done that.
[02:12] <dmcglone> gilbert: it's across the street from grant hospital
[02:12] <Cheri703> about 10 min from OSU, 15 with traffic. I can make it from there (slightly south of there actually) to microcenter in 15 min
[02:12] <thafreak> anyone know where the precise (as possible) center of the state is?
[02:12] <canthus13> Newark is almost the exact center.
[02:13] <dmcglone> thafreak: I'm checking
[02:13] <dmcglone> ;-)
[02:13] <thafreak> newark you say eh...
[02:13] <gilbert> paultag: that would be awesome, just show up at some random farm land and sit around with our computers and talk.  that would be fun
[02:13] <paultag> gilbert: dude, for sure
[02:13] <paultag> gilbert: I'd come down for that, no doubt
[02:13] <dmcglone> Newark is due east
[02:13] <itsafork> canthus13: but newarks.... far away :(    lol
[02:14] <dmcglone> haha gilbert
[02:14] <canthus13> itsafork: Yeah, well.. I'm in Toledo. Everything is kinda far away.
[02:15] <gilbert> so, i gotta run in a few.  anything else we need to wrap up?
[02:15] <Cheri703> http://ebranch-prod.columbuslibrary.org/ebranch/index.cfm?pageid=210
[02:15] <dmcglone> me and gilbert is in columbus, Umm pretty much in the center of ohio... lol
[02:15] <Cheri703> do we think we'd have more than 30 people?
[02:16] <dmcglone> Cheri703: probably not at first
[02:16] <itsafork> Cheri703: well are we going to invite the neighbor loco's???
[02:16] <gilbert> Cheri703: i doubt it
[02:16] <Cheri703> open to all of ohio
[02:16] <gilbert> itsafork: we'll invite anyone/everyone that would be interested
[02:16] <itsafork> 30 sounds pretty reasonable
[02:16] <Cheri703> there's one room at the main library that is 30 people, one that is 200, not really any in-between there
[02:17] <canthus13> You can fit 200 people in the 30 room, I'm sure.  Just gotta be friendly and wear deodorant.
[02:17] <Cheri703> decent amenities too, if you look, there's a fridge, microwave, lcd projector, tv/dvd player
[02:17] <Cheri703> so we could definitely provide snackies
[02:17] <gilbert> Cheri703: 30 is good
[02:17] <Cheri703> and/or have presentations
[02:17] <itsafork> canthus13: i agree, personal space is soo over rated
[02:18] <canthus13> mmm.. tokyo subways...
[02:18] <Cheri703> ok, the room can be reserved up to 4 months in advance, so if we decided on a few possible dates, we can try to reserve it
[02:18] <dmcglone> itsafork: I like my personal space ;-)
[02:18] <dmcglone> Cheri703: is there a cost?
[02:18] <gilbert> i would say April at the earliest
[02:18] <gilbert> dmcglone: you've already paid it compulsively
[02:19] <gilbert> dmcglone: libraries are paid for out of local taxes
[02:19] <Cheri703> doesn't look like it
[02:19] <Cheri703> and it does say you can't be disruptive ;)
[02:19] <itsafork> gilbert: agreed, april is the soonest we'd be able to succesfully plan something like this
[02:19] <dmcglone> True, but some charge for their rooms
[02:19] <paultag> dmcglone: not for community orgs, usually
[02:20] <paultag> only companies and such
[02:20] <dmcglone> paultag: cool
[02:20] <dmcglone> I didn't know that
[02:20] <paultag> taxes rule, dude
[02:20] <dmcglone> the library around the corner from my house has a charge for their conference room
[02:21] <Cheri703> on 4/23, the main auditorium (200 people) is open all day, the 30 person room is open after 1pm
[02:21] <itsafork> dmcglone: sounds like a not-so-fun library
[02:21] <paultag> dmcglone: usually public libraries will do it at no cost to community groups
[02:21] <Cheri703> (as of now, might fill up quickly)
[02:21] <Cheri703> since the other saturdays are taken
[02:21] <Cheri703> on 4/30 the 30 person room is available all day
[02:21] <gilbert> Cheri703: so, lets reserve it and plan on that
[02:21] <Cheri703> which?
[02:21] <gilbert> Cheri703: i'd say a half day is long enough
[02:21] <Cheri703> which half
[02:22] <dmcglone> lol
[02:22] <gilbert> later half
[02:22] <paultag> +1
[02:22] <jacob> :P
[02:22] <Cheri703> ok, so 4/23?
[02:22] <itsafork> later half sounds good!
[02:22] <gilbert> which day does 11.04 come out?
[02:22] <Cheri703> does someone in columbus want to reserve it?
[02:22]  * Cheri703 isn't really there much these days
[02:22] <paultag> gilbert: usually the 3th
[02:22] <paultag> 30th
[02:22] <gilbert> Cheri703: you can do it on that page, right?
[02:22] <Cheri703> the link I'd posted earlier
[02:22] <Cheri703> yes
[02:22] <gilbert> so the 30th seems like a good date then?
[02:23] <Cheri703> we could go for the 30th, have a release party?
[02:23] <canthus13> the 3th?
[02:23] <canthus13> :)
[02:23] <gilbert> yeah after party for the release
[02:23]  * Cheri703 isn't sure she wants to be RESPONSIBLE for the room :)
[02:23] <paultag> gilbert: let me check the release cal
[02:23] <canthus13> If it's like most releases, it'll release sometime around 11:58pm.
[02:23] <Cheri703> can't check may yet, 5 months out
[02:23] <gilbert> canthus13: 11:58 the day before?
[02:23] <canthus13> gilbert: the day of.
[02:24] <gilbert> canthus13: so they do it at the last minute
[02:24] <paultag> gilbert: Cheri703: April 28th
[02:24] <paultag> we're early this year
[02:24] <canthus13> Every 6 months, people poke ubottu, asking if it's out all day on release day.
[02:24] <Cheri703> ok, so then the 30th would be good
[02:24] <Cheri703> gilbert: http://ebranch-prod.columbuslibrary.org/ebranch/index.cfm?pageid=210
[02:24] <Cheri703> you can reserve from there
[02:24] <jacob> except 10.10, which was 10/10/10 10:10:10 UTC.
[02:24] <Cheri703> or someone on the council :)
[02:25] <paultag> +1 making the council do work
[02:25] <paultag> god that feels good to say
[02:25] <dmcglone> Firefox Users: This software is not compatible with Firefox version 3.6  or higher.  Use Internet Explorer, or older versions of Firefox, or any  other browsers to reserve a room online or call 614-645-2275 to reserve  by phone.
[02:25] <Cheri703> it was letting me get in there
[02:25] <paultag> dmcglone: dude, pwned
[02:25] <itsafork> paultag: ok
[02:25] <Cheri703> I don't know that it WORKS works, but it was letting mein
[02:25] <Cheri703> *me in
[02:25] <paultag> <3 itsafork
[02:26] <itsafork> i'll reserver it, but that means that at least all of have to show up!!!
[02:26]  * dmcglone can't call so I can't do it unless I go over there. I'll do it if anyone isn't willing to call and reserve
[02:26] <itsafork> & bring friends
[02:26] <gilbert> hmm, maybe we should decide now who is going to be responsible for organizing this since it seems to be a group idea
[02:26] <dmcglone> I'll definitely be there itsafork
[02:26] <gilbert> i wonder if Jon would be interested since he was instrumental in putting together ubucon
[02:27] <Cheri703> I'll help from here if at all possible
[02:27] <itsafork> i am more than happy to HELP organize it, but i will eventually need some help with the details
[02:28] <dmcglone> I will help with anything I can
[02:28]  * BiosElement is back >.>
[02:28] <Cheri703> perhaps someone can go scout out the room, check out logistics and such. it did say that tables/chairs are available, but the group is responsible for setup/tear-down, so reserve time on either side for that
[02:28] <itsafork> gilbert: jacob: i'm hoping i can count on you guys as well!!!!
[02:28] <gilbert> ok, we'll have a conversation within the council to decide how to organize this and we'll send out info later
[02:28] <jacob> itsafork: unless something catastrophic happens, i'll be there :)
[02:29] <gilbert> ok, so we have Cheri703 and itsafork as volunteers we can count on.  anyone else want to help out?
[02:29] <jacob> gilbert: sounds good :)
[02:29] <Cheri703> I think release party/install-fest/gathering
[02:29] <dmcglone> jacob: we're gonna have a really bad snow storm that day
[02:29] <jacob> dmcglone: sweet
[02:29] <Cheri703> so perhaps some tables set up in one corner where people can install, an area for chatting, and perhaps some small group discussion topics planned?
[02:29] <itsafork> jacob: Cheri703: dmcglone: gilbert: thanks guys!!!
[02:29]  * Cheri703 is just throwing out ideas
[02:30] <paultag> I can give a smallish talk about something fun, if I can plan ahead and make sure I get down in time
[02:30] <Cheri703> not sure just HOW big the room is
[02:30] <Unit193> If I can go I can help with setup/takedown
[02:30] <dmcglone> I'll go scout the room tomorrow
[02:31] <paultag> dmcglone: mind taking photos?
[02:31] <paultag> just with a phone or something
[02:31] <paultag> then we can doodle on them
[02:31] <Cheri703> it's the 3rd floor meeting room (or something like that)
[02:31] <dmcglone> I was about to suggest that, but doesn't that seem a little odd.. LOL
[02:31] <itsafork> paultag: can i hold you to that?????
[02:31] <paultag> hahaha
[02:31] <paultag> itsafork: a talk or doodling on photos?
[02:32] <jacob> hehe
[02:32] <paultag> I'll doodle up and down on this joint
[02:32] <itsafork> paultag: either?
[02:32] <gilbert> ok everybody, i gotta take off.  good meeting :)
[02:32] <paultag> itsafork: I'll do my 100% best. It's going to take some baby-making because that's either finals of my last semester at uni or graduation
[02:32] <tnseditor> talk to you later :)
[02:32] <paultag> gilbert: Thanks so much! You rock my socks!
[02:32] <jacob> later gilbert :)
[02:32] <paultag> itsafork: but I'll see if I can't get away
[02:33] <dmcglone> later gilbert
[02:33] <itsafork> paultag: thanks man!~
[02:33] <paultag> itsafork: rock on dude
[02:33] <itsafork> gilbert; tnseditor: later
[02:33] <dmcglone> Geez paultag give me a little credit here ;-)
[02:33] <paultag> dmcglone: :)
[02:34] <paultag> dmcglone: you get all the credit you want, dude. How's the PHP coming these days?
[02:34] <dmcglone> great, I've been doing a lot of writing lately
[02:34] <paultag> killer!
[02:34] <paultag> One sec, I need to get my chargetr
[02:34] <paultag> charger *
[02:34] <dmcglone> I'm building a site for Cheri703's friend
[02:35] <itsafork> dmcglone: i hate building sites, more power to ya!
[02:35] <dmcglone> why itsafork?
[02:35] <dmcglone> I love it
[02:36] <jacob> I love building sites... but not really in PHP ;)
[02:36] <dmcglone> PHP RULES!!!
[02:36] <dmcglone> ;-)
[02:36] <BiosElement> PHP just fails ;P
[02:36]  * BiosElement ducks behind flame wall
[02:36] <itsafork> dmcglone: just never had much luck/ skill at it
[02:36] <jacob> Python+Django, Ruby+Rails, etc > PHP
[02:37] <BiosElement> Python+Pyramid > Python+Django > PHP > Ruby+Rauls > C
[02:37] <BiosElement> ;)
[02:37] <jacob> though PHP is a necessary evil, using it at work
[02:37] <dmcglone> Aw now come on people, admit it PHP RULES ;-)
[02:37] <jacob> BiosElement: who uses C for web development? :P
[02:37] <dmcglone> jacob: I do
[02:38] <dmcglone> lol
[02:38] <dmcglone> Actually, I use 2 better called C++
[02:38] <itsafork> i don't know dmcglone, there aren't any vowels in the word, lol
[02:38] <jacob> dmcglone: how so? curious, I've really never seen it used online (excluding software libraries)
[02:38]  * Cheri703 has all 4 dogs in the living room
[02:38] <Cheri703> generally we only bring in a few at a time
[02:39] <dmcglone> jacob: yup, thats what makes me GOOD! lol
[02:39] <BiosElement> jacob: Well I can name a few
[02:39] <jacob> ah, well C++ makes a _little_ more sense. C, though...
[02:39] <jacob> and no, web servers don't count. I know that's C. :P
[02:39] <BiosElement> jacob: C++ 'is' C with some added crap heh
[02:40] <jacob> BiosElement: yes, but they're functionally different in many ways
[02:40] <itsafork> BiosElement: jacob: very true.
[02:40] <dmcglone> My main languages are PHP, mysql with PEAR and SMARTY
[02:40] <BiosElement> jacob: No debate there heh
[02:41] <dmcglone> C++ is C on steroids
[02:42] <jacob> anyway, i'm not about to get into a programming language holywar. ;) i'm signing off; need to work on some papers due tomorrow.
[02:42] <BiosElement> hah later jacob
[02:42] <jacob> later all
[02:42] <dmcglone> later jacob
[02:42] <tnseditor> adios
[02:42] <dmcglone> I'm about to hop in the shower
[02:42] <itsafork> hey guys i'm going to sign off as well, later!
[02:43] <Unit193> dmcglone: Don't take your computer with you!
[02:43] <dmcglone> BiosElement: you know the routine, gonna get my laptop and take it upstairs
[02:43] <dmcglone> lol
[02:43] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Fail ;P
[02:43] <dmcglone> lol Unit19
[02:44] <dmcglone> I'll be back in about 30 minutes :-)
[02:47] <thafreak> wait...what's all this talk?
[02:47] <thafreak> My first web stuff was written in C!
[02:47] <BiosElement> lol
[02:47] <BiosElement> Don't ask me
[02:47] <thafreak> a little thing called CGI
[02:47] <BiosElement> I think it's kinda dumb to do web in C
[02:47] <BiosElement> Servers don't count >.>
[02:47] <thafreak> not servers
[02:47] <thafreak> CGI programs...
[02:48] <thafreak> apache runs them...
[02:48] <thafreak> I wrote C first...
[02:48] <thafreak> then, later, wrote a C++ class to make it easy to write CGI bins...
[02:48] <thafreak> then some one showed me perl...then shortly thereafter (a few days), some one showed me php...
[02:49] <thafreak> needless to say, I didn't do much more C/C++ web dev :)
[02:49] <thafreak> oh, and it was when php 3 was brand new...
[03:05] <dmcglone1> back
[03:18] <Unit193> welcome back dmcglone1
[03:26] <dmcglone1> and I'm about to turn in for the night
[03:26] <dmcglone1> lol
[03:27] <Unit193> undo welcome back
[03:27] <dmcglone1> LOL
[03:27] <dmcglone1> It'll be around 11 when I go
[03:28] <dmcglone1> gotta get my beauty sleep. A lot of it. have you seen how ugly I am these days?
[03:28] <dmcglone1> ;-)
[03:28] <Unit193> Nope, the camera would break...
[03:29] <Unit193> I'm hoping to go to the c-bus ting...
[03:29] <dmcglone1> I hope to see you there
[03:29] <Unit193> Better then breaking another camera...
[03:30] <dmcglone1> lol
[03:31] <dmcglone1> I live pretty close  to the library it'll be held at
[03:31] <Unit193> Need shirts with SN on them...
[03:59] <dmcglone1> Ok I'm out. G'night everyone
[03:59] <Unit193> Have a nice one dmcglone1
[14:19] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[14:19] <Cheri703> hello
[14:22] <canthus13> Good morning.
[14:36] <Cheri703> canthus13: crazy boss strikes again
[15:16] <cprofitt> hey... can anyone tell me about Notacon?
[15:17] <canthus13> ChanServ: oh?
[15:18] <cprofitt> yes, its in OH
[15:19] <cprofitt> well... Cleveland if OH still claims it
[15:19] <cprofitt> http://www.notacon.org/
[15:19] <cprofitt> :-)
[15:19] <canthus13> ...
[15:19] <cprofitt> JonathanD: what channels are you not in?
[15:23] <JonathanD> Ummm...
[15:23] <JonathanD> I'm not sure ;)
[15:23] <JonathanD> cprofitt: I'm in fewer than 120 channels.
[15:24] <JonathanD> Out of 33,000. :)
[15:26] <cprofitt> hmm...
[15:26] <cprofitt> must just be many of the same channels I am in
[15:26] <cprofitt> JonathanD: you been to notacon?
[15:26] <JonathanD> nope
[15:26] <cprofitt> I feel the need for geekery... computer geekery...
[15:26] <JonathanD> cprofitt: I'm in a lot of ubuntu and lug channels.
[15:26] <JonathanD> as are you
[15:26]  * cprofitt nods
[15:27] <cprofitt> we follow the same path my friend
[15:27] <JonathanD> thats where all the fun stuff happens
[15:27] <JonathanD> and also the best place to get people to come over for dinner
[15:28] <cprofitt> lol
[15:28] <cprofitt> dinner...
[15:28] <cprofitt> yum
[16:56] <JonathanD> indeed.
[20:02] <Unit193> Bloody firefox...
[20:08] <thafreak> canthus13: weren't you talking about the girl with the dragon tattoo a while back?
[20:15] <canthus13> Yep. great movie.
[20:59] <dmcglone> Hi all :-)
[21:00] <Unit193> dmcglone
[21:00] <dmcglone> yeah?
[21:00] <Unit193> wrong context, hope your having a better one then I am...
[21:01] <dmcglone> I'm relieved today!
[21:01] <dmcglone> Unit193 go look at the completed site
[21:02] <Unit193> Too pissed off right now...
[21:02] <dmcglone> better to be pissed off than pissed on ;-)
[21:04] <Unit193> The site starts out a bit kookey
[21:05] <dmcglone> what do ya mean?
[21:06] <Unit193> Loads all the things it switchs around at once
[21:07] <dmcglone> is it like jerking around?
[21:10] <Unit193> only at first load... (not sure jerking is the right word)
[21:10] <dmcglone> just slow right?
[21:10] <Unit193> Know anyway to restore a FF session?
[21:11] <dmcglone> You can't unless it was saved
[21:11] <Unit193> loads all the pics at once... don't know how else to put it
[21:11] <dmcglone> I see
[21:11] <Unit193> it *was* saved....
[21:11] <Unit193> "saved"
[21:12] <dmcglone> have you tried closing firefox and opening it back up?
[21:13] <Unit193> Yes, been at this for about the last hour....
[21:13] <dmcglone> sounds like your session wasn't saved like it should have been
[21:13] <Unit193> (not an ubuntu computer) tried 3 undelete programs, searched all the restore files...
[21:14] <Unit193> I really need to get off the comp before I break anything :/
[21:15] <dmcglone> I know how ya feel man. Go take a break and come back to it later
[21:16] <Unit193> I don't think there is anything else to do about it... but go crazy with a process manager....
[21:16] <dmcglone> are you running windows?
[21:17] <Unit193> In the comp I'm really pissed at? or this one?
[21:17] <dmcglone> the one that will not restore the session
[21:17] <Unit193> Yep
[21:18] <dmcglone> That's your problem
[21:21] <Unit193> Yeah, I really need to not kill vital processes when I get ticked at it.... (I blue screen most of the time when I get ticked)
[21:33] <Unit193> Done with the site?
[21:48] <canthus13> Cheri703: Hey... what's up with the boss this time?
[21:48] <Cheri703> heh, good times, she FINALLY sent the proposed contract....
[21:48] <Cheri703> and wants to pay me $450 per week (which sounds pretty decent, until you factor in that THAT IS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE MY GAS REIMBURSEMENT!)
[21:49] <Cheri703> so basically I'd be making LESS some weeks than I make now
[21:49] <Cheri703> also she changed my "things that are under my domain" list to "tasks to include but not limited to:" so basically she wants to pay me less and keep herself having unlimited control over what she can ask from me
[21:50] <Cheri703> so...going to send back a counter proposal and explain why she's full of crap, and give up after that
[21:55] <greyfox-> PGP signing party tonight for those of you in Columbus... http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/f1gvx/pgp_signing_party_columbus_ohio/
[21:58] <canthus13> Cheri703: She's nuts.
[21:58] <Cheri703> yeah basically
[21:58] <Cheri703> >.<
[21:59] <Cheri703> silly me thinking that maaaaybe she'd regain some humanity, but oh well
[21:59] <canthus13> 450 is crap.  I make more than that sitting on my ass, resetting modems, and teaching old ladies how to change channels.
[22:00] <Cheri703> yeah...
[22:00] <Cheri703> the minimum I was willing to take was $400 PLUS gas reimbursement
[22:00] <Cheri703> some weeks I spend over $200 in gas
[22:00] <Cheri703> so...nope
[22:00] <Cheri703> as I said though, I'm going to give them one last shot at keeping me
[22:00] <Cheri703> but I'm not holding my breath
[22:02]  * canthus13 wonders what the going rate for your job description is...
[22:03] <canthus13> Can't be less than 12 bucks an hour...
[22:03] <Cheri703> according to a few people, it's over 30k
[22:03] <canthus13> That sounds about right. 15 bucks an hour, maybe a bit more.
[22:04] <Cheri703> oh, and the best part is, that $450 including gas is still as a contractor, so that $450 is wages, gas, taxes
[22:05] <canthus13> McDonalds pays better. :(
[22:05] <canthus13> ...almost.  McD's starts at $7.50/hr, which at full time is 300 bucks a week.
[22:05] <Cheri703> yeah, exactly, there are a few call centers in town, and I would take home more money
[22:05] <Cheri703> which is RIDICULOUS
[22:05] <Cheri703> I'm GOOD at my job
[22:06] <canthus13> Yay. Lunch.  I'm off to eat.  I'll be back after a while.
[22:06] <Cheri703> ttyl
[22:18] <Derath-Srvr> Sorry I missed the meeting last night, reviewing logs now...
[22:30] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, I have something of a suggestion...
[22:31] <Derath-Srvr> Regarding last night's meeting (sorry was teaching a class), could we use some form of an RSS feed? that way it's text based, lots of clients will read rss, voluntary... etc?
[22:32] <Derath-Srvr> jacob, gilbert ^
[22:34] <Derath-Srvr> Thinking a custom build site or tool that ReLoCo leads can easily type into and update and feed an RSS feed to distribute to those that want to subscribe...
[22:37] <Derath-Srvr> site, tool, or even a "web-plugin" that we can add to the wiki or something
[22:49] <canthus13> Bot in channel.
[22:50] <canthus13> Designated leads would be able to @update <whatever>
[23:00] <Derath-Srvr> that would work too