[00:03] <cyberanger> wrst: ugh, aside from clamav and ubuntu, I'd go with a mix
[00:04] <cyberanger> clamwin, avg free and microsoft essentials
[00:08] <cyberanger> wrst: really, with windows, I don't trust any, thus mutiple layer
[00:09] <cyberanger> robin williams is wicked funny
[00:09] <cyberanger> weapons of self destruction's twitter bit
[00:10] <wrst> yeah cyberanger me either and this is vista :\
[00:11]  * wrst hopes norton dies easily...
[00:12] <cyberanger> wrst: virus writers have gotten smart
[00:12] <wrst> and users are getting dumber cyberanger
[00:12] <cyberanger> against an indrustry that's using an outdated model
[00:12] <cyberanger> using the anti malware as a rootkit
[00:13] <cyberanger> omg omg wtf zzz
[00:13] <cyberanger> lol
[00:13] <cyberanger> man, robin williams
[00:14] <wrst> wow acer installs a lot of crapware
[00:14]  * wrst reboots this pile of junk
[00:18] <wrst> amazing what removing security software can do to speed a computer up :)
[00:20] <chris4585> mhm
[00:22] <wrst> i have removed over 2.5GB of just absolute crap files
[00:24] <wrst> hmm and a horse for a mouse pointer :\
[00:30] <chris4585> wrst, do you know when the places menu will be in unity?
[00:33] <wrst> well you can get there or could atleast by clicking on teh desktop then going to the top bar/panel whatever it is called
[00:35] <chris4585> I'm not really sure what you mean
[00:35] <chris4585> I mean when you click on the top left ubuntu icon
[00:35] <wrst> well click on the desktop so another apps global menu isn't there
[00:35] <wrst> ohh gotcha oh no its not there
[00:35] <wrst> i was thinking places as in the places on gnome
[00:36] <chris4585> yeah I was asking do you know when we'll get that in unity?
[00:36] <wrst> well you can get to it by clicking on the desktop to be sure another app doesn't have the global menu and then just select places when you hover over the global menu but as far as the fancy app menu stuff goes not for sure on that
[00:37] <chris4585> ah ok
[00:37] <wrst> i will be glad that's when it will kinda all be coming together
[00:37]  * wrst wonders why the harddrive is constantly working in this machine...
[00:39] <netritious> wrst: AVG Free 2011 works...I've heard good things about MSSE on the golum lists
[00:39] <netritious> I know I'm a little behind in the convo :P
[00:39] <wrst> thanks netritious, i have used MSSE and its pretty unobtrusive but don't know if that is good or bad :)
[00:40] <wrst> netritious: didn't realize you were around or would have asked you since you probably have more winders dealings than most of us :)
[00:40] <netritious> I just got back
[00:40] <wrst> ha ha cool
[00:40] <wrst> thanks
[00:41] <chris4585> netritious, I like AVG, set the scan speed on high and it scans the whole computer in about 10mins usually getting 700,000 items on my parent's computer
[00:41] <wrst> i may give MSSE  a try on this machine should i would think be the most headach free for not the best users in the world
[00:42] <netritious> chris4585: yeah it works....been using it for years at the house and on customer PCs
[00:42] <wrst> avg has seemed to get a little heavy for me in teh past release or two
[00:42] <netritious> wrst: Not Windows Defender though! it's junk. <-period. lol
[00:42] <chris4585> same, it seems to catch what comes on my computers (in the past)
[00:43] <chris4585> windows defender doesn't exist anymore I thought mse replaced it
[00:43] <wrst> yeah i have never seen it do any good
[00:43] <netritious> bad thing about AVGs last couple of releases...the nagging is down to a science now lol
[00:44] <chris4585> yeah thats slightly annoying about the notices, but oh well
[00:44] <netritious> chris4585: I think it's still around http://tinyurl.com/5q36co
[00:47] <netritious> looks like it's limited to w2k3 server and XP though
[00:47] <wrst> and this stinkin vista install i'm working on :)
[00:47] <netritious> hehe
[00:47] <netritious> I strongly dislike Vista
[00:48] <wrst> i hate vista netritious :)
[00:49] <wrst> netritious: any idea why the hard drive would be constantly running ?
[00:49] <netritious> wrst: might be indexing
[00:50] <netritious> brb
[00:51] <wrst> i shut that down just to see i have yet to do a great virus scan on it so i need to do that, had to get rid of all sorts of spyware just to get it functioning
[01:37] <netritious> back
[01:37] <netritious> wrst: that sux...i usually boot from livecd and freshclam/clamscan
[01:37] <netritious> *if I know it's infected already
[01:39] <wrst> yeah had to use malwarebytes but now it boots up and shuts down
[01:40] <wrst> i am defragging it at the moment
[01:40] <wrst> hey hey linuxman410
[01:41] <linuxman410> hey wrst how are ya
[01:41] <wrst> good linuxman410 how about you?
[01:41] <linuxman410> ordered me a new laptop it has windows 7 till it gets here and i format it and put ubuntu on it
[01:43] <linuxman410> new telephone gets here tommorow too it also runs linux
[01:43] <linuxman410> it is a palm pre plus running webos
[01:44] <linuxman410> wrst did you ever find you a new laptop
[01:45] <wrst> linuxman410: no the lid hasn't fallen off yet :)
[01:45] <wrst> what type of laptop did you get linuxman410?
[01:45] <linuxman410> i bought a compaq from tigerdirect
[01:46] <wrst> cool linuxman410 they have had some nice deals on laptops
[01:47] <linuxman410> wrst i used a new service they got called bill me later
[01:47] <wrst> i've seen that but have no clue how it works
[01:48] <linuxman410> you order your laptop now and pay for it later
[01:48] <wrst> hmm interesting
[01:49] <linuxman410> if you pay for it in 30 days no interest but if you go over 30 days 19 percent interest till you get paid for making payments
[01:50] <wrst> yeah 19 percent... ouch :)
[01:50] <linuxman410> that is not bad really i will pay for it pretty quick
[01:51] <wrst> i just usually save up in a jar or something
[01:51] <linuxman410> see my credit has took a beating
[01:53] <linuxman410> if your credit is goods you can get 18mo. tiger preferred plan no interest
[01:53] <wrst> i don't have a credit card
[01:53] <linuxman410> you do not have a credit history
[01:54] <wrst> yeah i guess i do, just don't do credit
[01:54] <linuxman410> oh ok
[01:54] <wrst> well did on a house but that's it
[01:55] <linuxman410> i do not do it that much i just signed up for the tigerdirect account so i could get a new laptop it was 349
[01:55] <wrst> that's cheap for a laptop, sweet
[01:55] <linuxman410> i can pay for it in 2 months
[01:55] <wrst> cool
[01:56] <wrst> and have a nice laptop to boot
[01:56] <linuxman410> cause wife is going to pay half
[01:57] <linuxman410> which means i am going to put all my old ones on ebay fore sale
[02:00] <wrst> i will need to check your auctions out linuxman410
[02:00] <linuxman410> i will have them starting at 300mhz up to p4
[02:03] <wrst> cool let me know when you get them up
[02:04] <linuxman410> i will theyu will all have some sort of linux os and alot of them have windows numbers on them
[02:06] <wrst> i am trying to fix a vista install right now linuxman410
[02:07] <linuxman410> wrst best way to fix is with ubuntu
[02:07] <wrst> i agree but not really an option here
[02:07] <linuxman410> yeah vista was a resource hog
[02:08] <wrst> its just a flaming pile of poo linuxman410
[02:08] <linuxman410> what else would you expect
[02:09] <wrst> :)
[02:09] <wrst> this is vista basic with just 1GB of ram so probalby never going to get it to be great
[02:09] <linuxman410> that is not enough ram even for basic
[02:10] <wrst> no i think basic's min is 512MB but would hate tothink about that
[02:10] <wrst> 1GB is painful
[02:10] <linuxman410> it needs at least 2gig to run halfway smooth
[02:11] <wrst> yes and it never tuly runs smoothe
[02:13] <linuxman410> have you ever been in the windows irc chat room
[02:14] <wrst> no is there a windows sanctioned room?
[02:14] <linuxman410> yeah windows
[02:15] <linuxman410> wrst mhall119 is in there
[02:15] <mhall119> who what?
[02:15] <wrst> yeah i'm watching him now :)
[02:15] <mhall119> oh noes, my secret has been revealed!
[02:15] <wrst> watching you in ##windows :)
[02:16] <netritious> lol
[02:16] <wrst> mhall119: you are in the enemy camp there be careful
[02:17] <linuxman410> wrst he is in dangerous waters
[02:17] <wrst> ha ha netritious is now also :)
[02:17] <mhall119> heh, yeah, the ops in there love me
[02:17] <netritious> lol I had to see if you were yanking my chain
[02:17] <wrst> i bet they do mhall119 ;)
[02:18] <netritious> I was half afraid of a DCC attack :D
[02:18] <wrst> ha ha netritious
[02:18] <netritious> I can see it now....
[02:19] <linuxman410> wrst i would be afraid of getting a virus in there but i am running ubuntu should be ok
[02:19] <netritious> "winman95: Windows is giving me a blue screen. How do I use the Ubuntu Live CD to repair it? (that's what I chatting with now)"
[02:20] <netritious> "mhall119: winman95 just click 'Intsall Ubuntu' and it will fix the blue screen..."
[02:20] <wrst> :)
[02:21] <mhall119> I didn't say that
[02:21] <netritious> lol
[02:21]  * netritious is yanking your chain
[02:21] <linuxman410> that is how you fix a blue screen
[02:21] <mhall119> I'd be way more snarky
[02:21] <netritious> hehe
[02:22] <linuxman410> i am running windows 3.1 how do i install internet explorer 8
[02:22] <mhall119> how to fix a blue screen: first go to the store and buy a spindle of CDs, a usb thumb drive, and a fifth of scotch
[02:22] <netritious> lol
[02:22] <mhall119> step 2: go to www.gentoo.com
[02:23] <mhall119> step 3: consume some scotch
[02:23] <cyberanger> mhall119: that or a 1l of russian vodka and goto debian.org
[02:23] <mhall119> step 4: if gentoo still looks like a bad idea, repeat step 3
[02:23] <cyberanger> netritious: head to firefox.com and look for a convincing theme
[02:24] <netritious> step 5: repeat step 3 for the hell of it
[02:24] <netritious> step 6: Now you're ready!
[02:24] <mhall119> step 7: ???
[02:24] <cyberanger> step 7, celebrate by finishing the bottle
[02:24] <mhall119> step 8: who cares
[02:25] <mhall119> step 12: start to lose track of what you're doing
[02:25] <mhall119> step 28: you guys are the greatest, you know that?
[02:25] <cyberanger> whoops, that highlight was for linuxman410
[02:25] <linuxman410> step 9 and 10 what was this windows anyway
[02:25] <mhall119> step h: ugh, I don't feel so good
[02:25] <cyberanger> lol
[02:26] <mhall119> step &: pass out in the bathroom
[02:26] <mhall119> step 99: wake up the next morning with a killer migraine, and realize it's still better than dealing with that BSOD
[02:27] <netritious> lol
[02:27] <netritious> cyberanger: I did install a pretty convincing win7 theme in lucid...funny thing is after using my laptop with no mods I like it better
[02:28] <linuxman410> netritious do you have any screen shots
[02:28] <netritious> linuxman410: I do around here somewhere I think
[02:29] <linuxman410> that is pretty bad that people do not like linux but will use it to fix windows
[02:30] <netritious> linuxman410: as long as it's used for something...
[02:30] <cyberanger> I did something similar for xp
[02:30] <cyberanger> step one, install xp
[02:31] <cyberanger> step two, haven't figured this out yet
[02:31] <netritious> linuxman410: I think that it is kinda like violence on TV....you get desensitized to using Linux just a little at a time :P
[02:31] <cyberanger> step three, install linux and call it a night
[02:31] <netritious> linuxman410:  this is the theme http://tinyurl.com/33bhl5k
[02:31] <netritious> Win2-7
[02:32] <netritious> at least for some people
[02:32] <netritious> I kinda dove in head first
[02:34] <linuxman410> yeah i need to stay out of windows channel i do not chat in there could get in trouble
[02:42] <netritious> the Win2-7 theme is ok, but I actually like the interface to UNR better than anything...extremely easy to use even for a newb
[02:53] <netritious> there are fewer things that annoy me in Windows 7 than in Ubuntu Desktop, but fewer things that annoy me in Ubuntu Server than in Windows Server (any version)
[02:54] <netritious> there's no sense in complaining about though, it just is what it is, and if it's just me that's all the better :D
[02:54] <netritious> it's probably just me :P
[02:55] <linuxman410> i guess i am just anti windows it is ok for some people just not for me
[03:28] <exodus_ms> Trying out my irc chat app on my phone again
[03:28] <exodus_ms> Seems to work ok
[03:32] <exodus_ms> Anybody around tonight?
[03:33] <Juzzy> im+
[03:34] <exodus_ms> I wish there was a way to take screenshots on a droid
[03:35] <exodus_ms> This app is pretty cool
[03:36] <Juzzy> im+ ?
[03:36] <Juzzy> its nice for alot of platforms
[03:36] <Juzzy> i use it on my iphone
[03:36] <Juzzy> and ipad
[03:37] <exodus_ms> Its called AndChat
[03:38] <Juzzy> ah
[03:38] <exodus_ms> http://www.andchat.net/
[03:56] <starsprout> did I mention it's 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10 I'm trying to install Adobe Air and Tweetdeck onto? Is it possible?
[04:01] <cyberanger> hey electricus
[04:02] <cyberanger> heh, exodus_ms is barely on anymore
[04:07] <starsprout> exodus_ms if you root the droid you can take screenshots
[04:09] <starsprout> my fav Android app this month is "Streamfurious" - esp on the tmoble HSPA+ network.... heheh, bye-bye satellite radio subscription
[04:11] <starsprout> brb
[04:15] <starspot> sigh. 64-bit Ubuntu + Adobe = :-( lol
[04:16] <starspot> halfway through trying command lines to install adobe air and now my system won't load X
[04:17] <starspot> "hard" reboot fixed it
[04:17] <starspot> but back to square one
[04:18] <starspot> is it possible to run adobe air (and Tweetdeck) on Ubuntu 10.10?
[04:29] <starsprout> gonna try openbox
[04:33] <chris4585> openbox <3
[04:45] <cyberanger> woot
[04:45] <cyberanger> openbox +1
[04:58] <chris4585> openbox is truly a experience
[05:49] <chris4585> http://i.imgur.com/cNYQ7.png
[06:06]  * starsprout wondering if 64-bit Ubuntu is worth the trouble at this stage
[12:45]  * wrst notes a lot of ubuntu talk at ##windows
[14:28] <wrst> morning Xpistos
[14:28] <Xpistos> morning everyone
[14:28] <Xpistos> wrst
[14:30] <wrst> Xpistos: how's it going?
[14:31] <Xpistos> wok up way late today
[14:31] <Xpistos> but all is good
[14:31] <wrst> everyone is due one of those on occasion :)
[16:39] <wrst> mhall119: i'm amazed at all the linux advice you are giving at ##windows :)
[16:39] <mhall119> wrst: that's why I'm here
[16:39] <mhall119> there
[16:40] <wrst> ha ha :)
[16:40] <wrst> cool
[16:40] <wrst> fun to watch
[16:53] <pace_t_zulu> ##windows sounds like a fun place to be
[16:53] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: has the same idea
[16:55] <Xpistos> lol
[16:56] <Xpistos> I was curious
[16:56] <pace_t_zulu> not as exciting as i thought
[16:56] <Xpistos> Why do I have an overwhelming desire to change my nick to Ferb right now?
[16:57] <pace_t_zulu> Ferb?
[16:57] <Xpistos> it is a child's cartoon. Someone in the ##windows chatroom signed on named Phineas. The show is called Phineas & Ferb
[16:57] <Xpistos> Sorry Parent reference
[17:04] <Xpistos> Why am I starting to feel dirty now?
[17:10] <wrst> because you are Xpistos :P
[17:12] <pace_t_zulu> left ##windows ... bored
[17:13] <Xpistos> it makes me sad i don't have an 10 inch andrid tablet yet
[17:38] <wrst> wish we all had one Xpistos
[17:39] <Xpistos> nah ... just me
[17:41] <wrst>  :P
[19:16] <wrst> hey chris4585
[19:46] <wrst> starsprout:
[19:46] <wrst> hello
[19:48] <electricus> hey cyberanger, what's up?
[19:49] <wrst> electricus: someone breathing, what's up? :)
[19:53] <electricus> ah nothin
[19:53] <electricus> cyberanger: was trying to reach me last night and i wasn't on
[19:54] <electricus> #arch has 1000 users in their channel 'exactly'
[19:54] <electricus> wow
[19:54] <electricus> or rather #archlinux
[19:55] <electricus> #ubuntu has 1600
[19:56] <wrst> winning the race but barely i suppose electricus? :)
[19:56] <electricus> oh who knows really.. haha
[20:06] <asartain> hello. What is the purpose of this channel?
[20:07] <Xpistos> To talk Ubuntu for Tennessee Local Community, right?
[20:08] <asartain> Okay, I'm probably on wrong channel then. I need help with a really messed up boot sector or loader.
[20:09] <asartain> The problem is more on the Windows side. It is a dual boot machine. Ubuntu boots fine. Windows is messed up.
[20:10] <wrst> asartain: we might be able to help what exactly is wrong?
[20:11] <asartain> If I choose the Windows bootloader, it goes to the logo animation, and just keeps animation, but activity halts. If under safe mode, it halts a classpnp.sys.
[20:11] <wrst> hmm were is netritious when we need him :)
[20:11] <wrst> Xpistos: any ideas?
[20:12] <Xpistos> about?
[20:12] <Xpistos> where is Netritious/
[20:12] <Xpistos> what do we need?
[20:13] <Xpistos> asartain: is this a new install?
[20:13] <asartain> Also, I suspect that somehow the partition got labeled wrongly, as under recovery console, the partition containing windows is not visible under the partition tool, can't remember what it's called, but under Ubuntu, I can go to the partition manager, and I can see the windows partition with all my information under it, but it is labeled as hidden.
[20:13] <asartain> I can even go so far as to mount the partition and browse it and all my information is there.
[20:14] <asartain> No, it's been there for about a year.
[20:14] <wrst> asartain: what version of windows?
[20:14] <Xpistos> and it just started to act up?
[20:15] <Xpistos> asartain: can you boot into safe mode for windows? it could be driver issue like video or audio usually gets to logo screen and then gives you the finger
[20:15] <asartain> I was going to remove the Ubuntu partitions the other day because I wasn't using them as much as I thought I would, so I anticipated the boot errors, but a guide i had been reading said that it would do that, just put in the Windows install cd, and choose system recovery, I believe.
[20:16] <asartain> However, when I tried that it didn't work, so next I tried bootrec and bootsect tools, but probably with wrong parameters as I do not really know what I am doing and was just following guides.
[20:17] <wrst> asartain: i have had some of that confuse drive letters before
[20:17] <asartain> So that's when the errors started to occur, so I am directly responsible for them.
[20:18] <wrst> asartain: what version of windows?
[20:18] <asartain> Yes, it's Windows 7, and you know how it has that system partition? It has gone and labeled that as c: under recovery console.
[20:19] <asartain> You know, the little 100mb partition at the start?
[20:19] <wrst> ok hmm
[20:19] <wrst> yes i know exaxctly what you speak of not for sure how to fix it, let me do some checking
[20:19] <asartain> It's really weird, but then again not so weird, that Linux sees the other partition when Windows doesn't.
[20:21] <asartain> For the moment, I'm running Ubuntu again, but cannot get an internet connection. it's being silly for some reason. I think I might get the live cd of the newer version and re-re-install.
[20:23] <asartain> am using boyfriends computer.
[20:24] <asartain> For now mine is a brick. Can't even watch my videos on it.
[20:24] <wrst> asartain: which woudl you rather do get ubuntu where it works or get windows to working? :)
[20:29] <asartain> Well, all of my stuff is already under windows, so I'd really prefer to get it back working. I had some notes I'd written to myself and somes songs I'd started to download and I'd really prefer to keep them, if I could.
[20:30] <asartain> However, I've changed my mind about totally getting rid of Ubuntu, I will keep it on a small partition in the back, just in case something like this happens again, as it seems to be able to get to my old files.
[20:30] <asartain> Also, I'd like to see how much it has improved since I've last used it.
[20:31] <wrst> well i'm thinking your problem is pretty much the drive letter assignment
[20:31] <asartain> Why is this happening?
[20:31] <asartain> How do I change it?
[20:31] <wrst> your boot is pointing to C:/ of course and that isn't the current partition
[20:31] <wrst> asartain: i really don't know i have had this issue before so going back through and looking at some things
[20:33] <asartain> Where should boot point? Which partition and what should it be called? The lengthy one with all my files was orginally called C:
[20:33] <asartain> System partition was originally only visible in disk management.
[20:35] <asartain> If I could look at the partitions under Ubuntu and tell you how they are labeled, would that help at all?
[20:35] <wrst> asartain: have you tried this? or somethign similar? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/fixing-bootmgr-is-missing-error-while-trying-to-boot-windows-vista/
[20:35] <wrst> asartain: i'm trying to remember the process
[20:36] <asartain> I wonder what would happen if I just changed the partition from hidden, if Windows would see it again and fix itself?
[20:37] <wrst> change it from where asartain?
[20:38] <asartain> Ubuntu
[20:38] <asartain> I have tried the described procedure many times, but I can try it again if you would like to know exactly the errors that it gives.
[20:39] <wrst> asartain: i'm really not for sure, or if you can do that where windows will pick it up... cyberanger you around?
[20:39] <asartain> I don't think it will mess it up anymore. I hope.
[20:39] <wrst> to be honest asartain probably not going to help you or me either one :)
[20:39] <wrst> does that procedure pick up the drive ?
[20:41] <asartain> No, it gives it a weird name under linux, but I am able to browse it, even though it says it's hidden. I don't know if it's supposed to be flagged that way, or if somewhere in the process of trying to fix it that happened.
[20:41] <wrst> yes asartain in linux the name will very well be something like sda1 or something like that
[20:42] <wrst> or a really long stream of letters and numbers
[20:42] <asartain> What partition does windows boot from? The system partition or c: with all the files on it?
[20:43] <asartain> In other words, should the big partition be bootable or the little partition?
[20:43] <asartain> Although Windows and linux may have completely different definitions of this.
[20:44] <wrst> asartain: here is how I THINK and I may very very well be wrong, with your setup the first thing is grub, when you select windows from grub it points to your windows partition that I think would be your C: drive and then windows takes over I think this is the point you are getting to
[20:44] <wrst> then i think the bootmgr file or something by that name takes care of the rest
[20:46] <wrst> asartain: this tells about changing drive letters but not on a system that won't boot http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223188
[20:58] <wrst> and this looks similar asartain
[20:58] <wrst> http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/windows-vista-ultimate/494377-forced-boot-drive-letter-change-cant-change-back.html
[21:05] <asartain> Sorry for no response. Am reading.
[21:49] <wrst> no prob asartain that may not even help
[22:01] <asartain> I am so lost
[22:01] <asartain> I want to bash my head into a wall.
[22:02] <asartain> I think Windows is seeing C partition as corrupt.
[22:07] <wrst> asartain: wish i knew something better to tell you we do have some windows experts that hang around in here some but just not here right now :\
[22:12] <asartain> Perhaps I can get a boot log and see what is going on. Do you know where that will be stored if I do?
[22:13] <wrst> not really asartain, the fix from the cd/dvd has always fixed any boot problems for me and I have never had to go any deeper
[22:15] <asartain> Computers hate me. And to think, I wanted to do this for a while.
[23:05] <cyberanger> electricus: fouled up a nick highlight, sorry
[23:05] <cyberanger> wrst: what's up
[23:12] <wrst> cyberanger: just looking for words of wisdom for asartain
[23:13] <starsprout> howdy
[23:14] <starsprout> anyone know about graphics in ubuntu 10.10 64-bit? I'm getting all these weird characters all over the screens
[23:16] <cyberanger> wrst: ah, and what was the topic?
[23:16] <cyberanger> starsprout: need a little more detail to answer that
[23:17] <cyberanger> screenshot? or maybe c&p a line
[23:18] <starsprout> how do I show you a screenshot? twitpic?
[23:18] <chris4585> starsprout, try imgur ?
[23:19] <starsprout> http://tinypic.com/r/1z3ta89/7
[23:19] <cyberanger> those three work
[23:19] <starsprout> it's getting hard to read
[23:20]  * chris4585 wonders if you're using ati
[23:20] <starsprout> if I reboot it is ok for a few minutes, then these stray marks start appearing everywhere
[23:20] <cyberanger> just irc?
[23:20] <starsprout> I have a Radeon HD2600XT, but I'm not using the proprietary drivers
[23:21] <chris4585> maybe you should?
[23:21] <starsprout> lol
[23:21] <starsprout> yeah, prolly :-)
[23:21] <cyberanger> starsprout: is the char issue just on irc
[23:21] <starsprout> cyberanger: nope - on everything. very annoying
[23:22] <starsprout> I'll try the AMD drivers and let y'all know after the reboot
[23:22] <chris4585> hope it works out
[23:22] <cyberanger> starsprout: ok, just have a live disc in case
[23:22] <wrst> boot troubles but on the winders side of thingscy
[23:23] <wrst> got to windows booting but drive letters messed up etc over my head for me to not be looking at it
[23:25] <cyberanger> wrst: your issue?
[23:25] <cyberanger> oh, nvr mnd
[23:26] <wrst> no they had ubuntu installed and windows all was ok but some how windows wasn't booting or getting past the windows startup screen and their system recovery drive got named c:
[23:26] <wrst> i would have just nuked it cyberanger if it had been mine :)
[23:54] <asartain> Well I'll be darned. Bless the Hiren's boot cd!
[23:56] <asartain> Anyways, it's fixed. Bye!
[23:57] <asartain> Just went and undhid the c: partition and renamed it to c:, then redid the mbr and pbr and lo and behold, it went and scanned itself, found itself to be okay and came on.
[23:58] <asartain> I hope it lasts!
[23:58] <asartain> Relief is a cooling sensation, or is it just cold in here?