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exalthello, i have a problem with bzr/ launchpad : http://pastebin.com/rQdYBv5K00:13
tsimpsonexalt: have you changed your ssh key recently? the lp: URIs use bzr+ssh normally and the "Permission denied (publickey)" message is the server telling you the key on your LP profile and the one you sent don't match00:18
exalttsimpson, i created it 3 hours ago or so for the first time00:20
exaltthen i loaded lp:speech-control-devs that worked00:21
exaltthen i loaden lp:openmary and i got this error00:21
exalt5 minutes between or something00:21
exalttsimpson, *00:21
tsimpsonso the key on LP is the one you recently created?00:24
exaltyes00:25
exalttho only one i ever created00:25
tsimpsondid you tell bzr your launchpad ID?00:27
tsimpsonwith "bzr launchpad-login your_lp_user"00:27
exalttsimpson, yea no errors00:32
exaltexalt@exalt:~/bin/openmary$ bzr launchpad-login evan-exalt -v00:33
exaltLaunchpad user ID exists and has SSH keys.00:33
exaltLaunchpad user ID set to 'evan-exalt'.00:33
sorenWhat does "ssh-add -l" say?00:34
exaltsoren, an RSA key00:37
exalthttp://pastebin.com/LYgzCpR900:43
FullFlannelJackeHow does one create a PPA package for both Lucid and Maverick?00:46
thumperFullFlannelJacke: if uploading, I think you need to upload for each distro series01:20
thumperI don't understand packaging that much01:20
jelmerhi FullFlannelJacke, thumper01:21
jelmerthumper: Yep01:21
FullFlannelJackesorry was away01:54
FullFlannelJackehow do I upload for a different distro series?01:54
FullFlannelJackenevermind, figured it out.  Got to use copy packages02:05
izinucshi all.. I've found a project on bazaar.launchpad.net that I'd like to download and test (no deb it's a php web app).  It has a decent tree structure.. How can I down load it easily.. as opposed to recreating the tree locally and downloading files one at a time.. there's got to be a better way.. so far wget doesn't like me.. Any help appriciated :)02:19
lifelesswith the bzr tool02:23
lifelessbzr branch lp:~thing/thing/thing02:23
izinucslifeless: so "branch" is just branch and not an entire address line? the address line is lp:~yada/yada/yada?02:25
lifelessyes02:25
lifelessbranch is the operation02:25
izinucsok..thanks.. I'll give it a shot02:26
quotemstrIs there a launchpad mirror of Emacs 23.2, or just the trunk?04:36
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mrevellHi, I'm on CHR today so ping me if you have a question about Launchpad.09:01
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mok0I need some advice from someone experienced with LP project management. I'd like to change the way I'm dealing with series, is it possible to change "backwards"?10:30
mok0I've been confused wrt the difference between "milestones" and "series"10:30
Keybukmrevell: hey mate, you around?10:31
mok0but I don10:31
mrevellHello Keybuk, sure am.10:31
mrevellHi mok010:31
mok0I don't want the project to become a mess if I suddenly change things10:31
mok0mrevell: hi10:31
Keybukmrevell: I'm still unable to upload, LP won't accept my GPG key10:31
Keybukmrevell: ~scott has no listed GPG keys, when I try to add mine, I get "The key 8D2D1F62A4AC9A22FEFCB0DC21EC4FDC84AD676C has already been imported."10:32
mok0SHA clash ;-)10:32
mrevellKeybuk, Hmm. Were you already speaking to someone about this?10:33
Keybukmrevell: no, I've been unable to get anyone to talk to me about it10:33
KeybukI'm getting rather exasperated10:33
Keybukin fact, I'm about ->  <- this far away from misquoting Yes, Minister and I'm sure we all don't want that :p10:33
mrevellKeybuk, Ah, in which case, I'm sorry about that.10:33
mrevellheh10:33
mrevellKeybuk, I'll be honest and say that I don't know how to help you with this but I know a man who does. He's sinzui and he's in EST, so will be around. Do you mind if I get him to ping you when he comes online?10:34
Keybuk"mrevell, I must protest in the strongest possible terms my profound opposition to a newly instituted practice which imposes severe and intolerable restrictions upon the ingress and egress of senior members of the hierarchy" etc.10:34
Keybuksure :p10:34
mrevellhaha10:34
Keybukbasically it seems to be an LP bug10:34
mrevellThanks Keybuk. I'll make sure someone helps you with this. It might just be in an hour or three.10:35
maxbHas someone asked a LOSA to query the DB to check which LP person that key fingerprint is associated with?10:35
mrevellmok0, Hey, which project are we talking about?10:35
mrevellmaxb, I'd assume not. mthaddon is that something you can help with? ^^^^^10:36
mok0mrevell, https://launchpad.net/gpp410:36
wgrantKeybuk: I gather that that key was on the original ~scott?10:36
Keybukwgrant: yes10:37
mok0mrevell: you see, the development is along one line (trunk) with milestone points 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and under each of those releases e.g. 1.2.1, 1.3.0 etc10:37
mok0mrevell: ... and I realized that's not the right way to do it10:37
mthaddonmrevell: looks like that gpg key is associated with ~canonical-scott10:38
Keybukmthaddon: I deleted it from there10:38
Keybukand it isn't listed under ~canonical-scott anymore10:38
mthaddonKeybuk: it's still in the DB :(10:38
maxbGPG keys cannot be deleted, only deactivted10:38
wgrantWe'll need to SQL it across.10:38
Keybukso I'd like to reactivate it on the different account ;-)10:38
wgrantIt will make your uploaded packages appear to have come from ~scott, but that will have to do.10:39
Keybukno it won't10:39
Keybukbecause all my uploaded packages were signed by the key that's still associated to ~canonical-scott10:39
wgrantAh, I see.10:39
Keybuk(I think)10:39
Keybukassuming debsign did the right thing, etc. etc.10:40
mrevellmok0, How would you prefer to do it?10:40
mok0mrevell: I think 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc. should have been each a series, with milestones 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.3.0 etc.10:41
mok0mrevell: For example, if you go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gpp4 you can see it says a newer version is available, but if you go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gpp4 it says it's older (which is not correct)10:43
mok0mrevell: so something doesn't work right with my scheme :-)10:43
maxbKeybuk: So, unless this  is already being tracked elsewhere, you should probably enter a question for it (https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion)10:48
mrevellmok0, I don't know how Launchpad makes that decision but bigjools may be able to help.10:48
mrevellmok0, He'll be along in a moment.10:48
* bigjools tries to catch up10:49
mok0bigjools: hi10:49
bigjoolsmok0: can you re-summarise the problem?10:50
mok0bigjools: hang on...10:50
bigjoolsare you talking about the packaging stuff?10:51
bigjoolsif so, you need sinzui10:51
Keybukmaxb: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/14142610:51
mok0 I'd like to change the way I'm dealing with series, is it possible to change "backwards"?  Development  <https://launchpad.net/gpp4> is along one line (trunk) with milestone points 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and under each of those releases e.g. 1.2.1, 1.3.0 etc10:52
mok0bigjools: I think 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc. should have been each a series, with milestones 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.3.0 etc.10:52
wgrantmok0: The issue is that it was uploaded to ubuntu as 1.3.0, but on LP it's 1.3.10:53
bigjoolsthis is outside my area of expertise, sorry.  sinzui is your man.10:53
wgrantmok0: So your suggestion is probably OK.10:53
wgrantmok0: Although you might not need separate series, depending on the project.10:53
mok0wgrant, I understand that, but I'd like to think of 1.3 as the "major" revision, with micro-releases (bug-fixes etc) under that hat10:53
wgrantmok0: OK, I'd go with the separate series, then.10:54
wgrantI'm not sure if you can rename the existing releases.10:54
wgrantLet me see.10:54
mok0wgrant: I realized that is probably better. But can  I change it "backwards"? I don't want to make a mess10:54
wgrantmok0: What do you mean "backwards"? You want to change the old ones too?10:55
mok0wgrant: yes... to make it logical10:55
mok0wgrant: it might not be possible10:55
wgrantmok0: Sure. Just create the new series, then hit 'Change details' on the existing milestone.s.10:56
wgrantYou can move them to the new series and rename them as appropriate.10:56
mok0wgrant, thanks, I will try that.10:57
mthaddonKeybuk, maxb: just tried to delete the GPG key per https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/141426 so it could be added to the right account and got "DETAIL:  Key (id)=(344) is still referenced from table "packageupload"" - not sure if I can just change the owner id without any consequences, so I'm going to create a bug about this and link to it in the question11:14
maxbmthaddon: please see the UPDATE sql later in the question11:14
mthaddonah, okay11:15
mthaddonok, done11:16
Keybukmthaddon: thanks11:17
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Keybukyup, that works, thanks11:21
Keybukmthaddon: OOI, what happens when my Canonical acct is deleted?11:21
Keybukin particular, to scott@ubuntu.com mail?11:21
mthaddonKeybuk: I don't think the account will be deleted, just it's membership of ~canonical terminated11:22
Keybukno, I mean my actual Canonical userdir-ldap account11:22
mthaddonoh, no idea about that I'm afraid - you'd need to check with the GSAs11:23
Keybukthere's so many *SAs now, it's hard to keep track11:23
mthaddonthere's only two!11:24
mthaddon{G,LO}SAs11:24
Keybukaren't there USAs as well now?11:24
wgrantIt should go to your netsplit.com address... but that assumes the alias scripts handle deletion properly, which I really don't trust.11:24
wgrantmthaddon: UOSA!11:24
mthaddonKeybuk: I deny the existence of the USA, but wgrant has rumbled me anyway...11:24
wgrant:(11:25
Keybukand aren't LOSAs now OSA (L&L)s ? :p11:27
Keybukand there's Sciri, who's an OOSA? :p11:27
mthaddonyeah, LOSAs is a terrible acronym and no longer accurate...11:27
mthaddonshould really be LLUIOSAs11:27
wgrantLPLSU1ISDOSA?11:27
wgrantThat's better.11:27
Keybuk"Launchpad SysAdmin"11:28
mthaddonwgrant: we have a winner!11:28
jpdsduckie.11:28
Keybukjpds: duckies are different11:28
Keybukduckies have secret extra buttons in the web interface, and look confused when you ask them anything that requires SQL changes11:28
mthaddons/confused/disappointed/11:29
* Keybuk wonders what time (UTC) he officially leaves Canonical11:30
wgrant:(11:33
bigjoolsKeybuk: hotel california11:36
bigjools(see what I did therE)11:36
Keybukbigjools: heh, The Lamont Rule11:44
bigjoolsKeybuk: good luck anyway :)11:44
lamontKeybuk: ubuntu-OSA as well.12:00
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mok0wgrant, can I bother you again?12:26
wgrantmok0: Sure.12:27
mok0wgrant: plz take a look again: https://launchpad.net/gpp412:27
wgrantmok0: You broke everything!12:28
mok0wgrant:  :-(12:28
mok0wgrant: how so?12:28
wgrantmok0: I don't know. It hasn't loaded yet.12:28
wgrantThat looks good.12:28
mok0wgrant: phew12:28
mok0Didn12:29
mok0't realize it was a joke12:29
wgrantHah, sorry.12:29
mok0wgrant: I am just confused... what is "trunk" for now?12:29
wgrantmok0: Deletion.12:30
mok0wgrant: ah, so I can delete that now?12:30
wgrantmok0: You'll probably have to set your development focus to 1.3 first, but yeah, I'd delete it.12:30
wgrantNo point having it around.12:30
mok0wgrant: ok, I will try that12:30
mok0wgrant: it has no effect on the bzr branch right?12:31
mok0wgrant, ah yes, it looks right now... I can go ahead and delete "trunk"12:33
wgrantmok0: Sorry, Chromium decided that 8GiB of RAM just wasn't enough.12:35
wgrantLooking now.12:35
wgrantYeah, delete away.12:36
wgrantIf you can.12:36
mok0wgrant, uh-oh, "You cannot delete a series that is linked to packages in distribution."12:37
wgrantmok0: Let me fix that quickly.12:37
mok0wgrant: thanks12:37
mok0wgrant: is that something you need privileges to do?12:38
wgrantmok0: No, anyone can do it, but I was already on the relevant pages.12:39
wgrantI just changed the series links on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpp412:39
wgrantIt should be OK now.12:39
mok0wgrant: great! thanks12:39
mok0Perfect12:39
wgrantGreat.12:40
mok0wgrant: There are not a great deal of bug reports for this software. But for a busy project, I guess you would now link a separate bazaar branch to each series, so you could deal with bug-fixes etc. ?12:42
wgrantmok0: Yeah, larger projects often maintain their series in parallel.12:44
mok0wgrant: I guess what confused me is the fact that series/milestones have nothing to do with the "Code" tab (bazaar), but the two tabs exchange information anyway12:46
* abogani waves all13:00
aboganiIs PPA offers x86 arch support only, isn't it? So neither ARM nor PowerPC...13:00
maxbThat is correct. It's because the PPA buildsystem requires Xen virtualization13:03
maxbSo it's only available for architectures supported by that13:04
aboganimaxb: Thanks!13:06
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nhomarHello13:45
nhomarI was added to a team that have a private branch, but when i try to access it, then, some problems with credentials are present. Somebody can help me.13:46
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mrevellHi nhomar13:47
nhomarHi mrevell13:47
mrevellnhomar, What project and branch? Feel free to private message me if you prefer.13:47
savvas0hello, does anyone know if there's a file upload limit for launchpad project releases?14:01
mrevellsavvas0, 60MB AFAIK.14:03
mrevellsavvas0, that's per file.14:03
savvas0ok, thank you :)14:03
mrevellThat may be out of date, but that's the last limit I knew of.14:03
mrevellnp14:03
NCommandermrevell: ping you about?14:11
mrevellHi NCommander, sure am.14:12
NCommandermrevell: see PM then :-)14:12
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danilosfta, hi, the translations should be fixed, but the statistics are not up to date... I'll see if we can get them updated over the weekend, but if not, they get updated in a week's time15:46
danilosfta, also, I noticed that you mentioned how you do a merge yourself with upstream translations and prefer LP translations in the process; if you really do that, there should be no other worries for you either and you can just keep on doing what you've been doing15:46
ftadanilos, i will explain my workflow in a blog post shortly. once done, that will be easier to re-discuss this point as i'm not really sure about what you've done and why you changed it15:53
danilosfta, sure thing15:54
ftadpm, hi, did you read my post?15:54
danilosfta, just send me a link once you are done, but I get frequently disconnected around here so if I don't ack, please feel free to repost :)15:55
dpmhi fta, this one? -> http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/new-chromium-security-update-and-translations-news/ - if that's the one, yes ;) I've just posted it to the translators FB page15:55
ftadpm, i posted it on the m-l yesterday, not sure it went through though15:56
ftadanilos, sure, will do15:56
dpmfta, ah, I haven't done my daily look at posts to approve yet, I've just started. Let me do this now15:57
ftadpm, the idea of this post was to motivate translators, not sure i succeeded15:58
ftadpm, i subscribed to that lp m-l, a little bit against my will as i already get far too many emails from launchpad15:59
danilosfta, mailing lists in LP should let your posts go through if you are in "good standing" in LP even if you are not subscribed; "good standing" is something mailing list related and I don't really know what it means, but maybe sinzui does?16:00
ftaeven with a kilometer long procmailrc file, it still floods my inbox16:00
ftahttps://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-translators/msg00277.html16:01
ftait's there16:01
ftaso no worries16:01
dpmfta, the e-mail went through to launchpad-translators, so no need to approve anything. You can also deactivate reception of e-mails and keep subscribed16:01
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ftadpm, the idea was to get the emails and store them somewhere, so i can dig through and reply went i need to16:02
fta(without asking you to bounce)16:02
dpmfta, in any case, the post looks great to me! The important thing is keep translators informed, and people loves it when there are regular updates on the status16:02
ftabooh, bad encoding "IĆ¢ve"16:03
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ftadpm, btw, i noticed some untranslated parts with the Galician langpack yesterday, like the Close button, did anyone complain about it?16:06
ftamaybe i missed a template16:06
dpmfta, not that I know of, but I don't know myself where this string comes from. Perhaps I should give them a heads up.16:07
ftadpm, if someone complains, a bug in lp with a screenshot and a "translation" tag would be nice16:08
dpmfta, that sounds good if that works for you. I still think we should put this kind of info in a wiki or a more permanent place. In any case, if you are happy with translation bugs being reported against the chromium-browser project in LP, you can add a paragraph with this info in the bug report submission guidelines in there. I'd be happy to help with that, but I don't have the permissions to edit the bug submission guidelines in there16:11
sinzuifta, danilos, good standing will let you post to lists you are not subscribed to...but there is no way to get good standing in Lp16:11
sinzuiThe standing feature was never completed16:11
danilossinzui, ah, ok, thanks for the clarification16:12
ftais that mased on karma somehow?16:12
ftabased16:12
sinzuiI would like to finish because we are using karma in the code when we mean standing16:12
ftadpm, well, whatever you prefer. i remember you said the wiki for the desktop file was not the usual way16:13
sinzuidanilos, can you see standing: https://launchpad.net/~sinzui/+review16:13
* sinzui has no menus so is not sure if it can be changed16:13
fta"Not allowed here"16:13
ftacan't even see my own :P16:14
sinzuiI think danilos may have the power to manually change standing. I think barry had the power16:14
dpmfta, the desktop thing was something else, and I think it was a good compromise at the time. I think it worked quite well, especially because you were really responsive in committing the translations16:14
sinzuifta, you should never be permitted to change your standing in the community. The community judges you16:14
ftasinzui, just wanted to see it16:15
sinzuifta. right, we should be permitted to know what our standing is. We need to decide whether to complete this feature to remove the fragments in the code16:16
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danilossinzui, yeah, I can change it16:34
danilossinzui, you have an excellent standing, how did that happen? :)16:35
sinzuiI think I tested last year when spammers were attacking. I wanted to use standing to set privileges like linking16:36
danilossinzui, right, that'd make sense16:37
hrwgood day everyone16:52
hrwnew problem today. in my ppa I wanted to copy package from lucid to maverick and rebuild it there. but I got "The following source cannot be copied: armel-cross-toolchain-base 1.56-ppa2 in lucid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)" message. but armel-cross-toolchain-base was not built for maverick in this ppa before (older version of it is present in maverick archive).16:55
hrwwhat is wrong?16:55
bigjoolshrw: you can't have a source built more than once in a pool-based repository16:55
bigjoolsit would result in binaries of the same version with different contents16:56
hrwbigjools: ok, so I have to do 1.56-ppa2maverick1 package and send for build?16:56
bigjoolshrw: if you want to rebuild, you need to re-upload, yes16:56
hrwok, thx16:57
bigjoolsnp16:57
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shadeslayerjelmer: around?17:26
hyperairhi. are the buildds for natty not updating or something? i keep getting the error shown here, but all my natty installations install the package just fine. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62231168/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.banshee_1.9.2-1ubuntu1~hyper1%2Bnatty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz17:27
shadeslayerhyperair: you need libubuntuone1.0-cil17:29
hyperairshadeslayer: which is also there.17:29
shadeslayerput it in debian/contro17:29
shadeslayer*control17:29
shadeslayerno it isnt17:29
hyperairshadeslayer: why would i need that?17:29
hyperair-cil-dev depends on -cil17:29
hyperair-cil refuses to be installed17:29
shadeslayerhyperair: because libubuntuone1.0-cil-dev looks all sorts of broken since it does not depend on libubuntuone1.0-cil-dev17:29
shadeslayererr17:30
shadeslayers/libubuntuone1.0-cil-dev/libubuntuone1.0-cil17:30
hyperairit doesn't?!17:30
shadeslayerits ok in maverick17:30
shadeslayerseems its broken in natty17:30
hyperairyes i know it's okay in maverick17:30
hyperairit installs just fine in my local schroot17:30
hyperairsbuild builds fine17:30
shadeslayerok one sec17:30
hyperairDepends: libubuntuone1.0-cil (= 0.3.8-0ubuntu8)17:31
hyperairit's not broken17:31
shadeslayerok .. one sec ...17:33
shadeslayerhmm17:33
shadeslayerhyperair: your right ... the package is fine17:33
hyperairwhich means the chroot environment isn't.17:33
shadeslayeryep17:34
hyperairwhich is something i can't debug without spamming launchpad with a hundred and one test dummy packages17:34
hyperairs/test dummy/dummy test/17:34
shadeslayer^_^17:37
* mneptok casts Summon on barry17:47
shadeslayerany ideas on how to connect a series of launchpad repositories to CIA ?17:54
shadeslayeri see some scripts17:54
mwhudsonshadeslayer: can CIA be configured to respond to email?17:54
shadeslayercant quite figure out how those work17:54
shadeslayermwhudson: http://cia.vc/doc/clients/17:54
shadeslayersee the 2nd and 3rd Links17:55
mwhudsoni don't have time to actually think about your question, sorry :-)17:55
shadeslayerok :)17:55
shadeslayeralthough yes, it probably can17:55
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shadeslayerthats what the 2nd script does afaik17:55
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* mneptok casts Dispel on barry18:18
pindongahi, I have a question about bzr recipes in launchpad: as far as I can see it's not possible to have them for private branches18:49
pindongais there a way to do that? (use bzr recipes for private branches)18:49
ftadpm, i think i found the problem. i need to add this template in launchpad: http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/app/resources/app_strings.grd19:03
jonrafkindis there a way to create a package that works on any distro? currently I specify 'lucid' in the changelog which launchpad uses to create a lucid package, and I'd rather not have to make a new package with just the changelog updated to make a maverick package20:14
geserjonrafkind: if you know that your lucid package also works in maverick (and later) you can copy it in LP to maverick20:23
shadeslayerjonrafkind: there's no other way to specify which distro to build the package for20:35
shadeslayerand since each release is different from the previous one, it needs to be specified20:35
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jonrafkindgeser, how is that copy done?21:33
geserthrough the webinterface on LP21:58
xteejxHi guys.22:04
xteejxCan I request a ban on Heather R Bealer (heathernshaun1) please, ref comment #345  at bug 439448 - spamming22:05
ubot5Launchpad bug 439448 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "Visual corruption affecting several panel applets" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43944822:05
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