[00:13] hello, i have a problem with bzr/ launchpad : http://pastebin.com/rQdYBv5K [00:18] exalt: have you changed your ssh key recently? the lp: URIs use bzr+ssh normally and the "Permission denied (publickey)" message is the server telling you the key on your LP profile and the one you sent don't match [00:20] tsimpson, i created it 3 hours ago or so for the first time [00:21] then i loaded lp:speech-control-devs that worked [00:21] then i loaden lp:openmary and i got this error [00:21] 5 minutes between or something [00:21] tsimpson, * [00:24] so the key on LP is the one you recently created? [00:25] yes [00:25] tho only one i ever created [00:27] did you tell bzr your launchpad ID? [00:27] with "bzr launchpad-login your_lp_user" [00:32] tsimpson, yea no errors [00:33] exalt@exalt:~/bin/openmary$ bzr launchpad-login evan-exalt -v [00:33] Launchpad user ID exists and has SSH keys. [00:33] Launchpad user ID set to 'evan-exalt'. [00:34] What does "ssh-add -l" say? [00:37] soren, an RSA key [00:43] http://pastebin.com/LYgzCpR9 [00:46] How does one create a PPA package for both Lucid and Maverick? [01:20] FullFlannelJacke: if uploading, I think you need to upload for each distro series [01:20] I don't understand packaging that much [01:21] hi FullFlannelJacke, thumper [01:21] thumper: Yep [01:54] sorry was away [01:54] how do I upload for a different distro series? [02:05] nevermind, figured it out. Got to use copy packages [02:19] hi all.. I've found a project on bazaar.launchpad.net that I'd like to download and test (no deb it's a php web app). It has a decent tree structure.. How can I down load it easily.. as opposed to recreating the tree locally and downloading files one at a time.. there's got to be a better way.. so far wget doesn't like me.. Any help appriciated :) [02:23] with the bzr tool [02:23] bzr branch lp:~thing/thing/thing [02:25] lifeless: so "branch" is just branch and not an entire address line? the address line is lp:~yada/yada/yada? [02:25] yes [02:25] branch is the operation [02:26] ok..thanks.. I'll give it a shot [04:36] Is there a launchpad mirror of Emacs 23.2, or just the trunk? === JanC_ is now known as JanC [09:01] Hi, I'm on CHR today so ping me if you have a question about Launchpad. === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | On-call help contact: mrevell | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [10:30] I need some advice from someone experienced with LP project management. I'd like to change the way I'm dealing with series, is it possible to change "backwards"? [10:30] I've been confused wrt the difference between "milestones" and "series" [10:31] mrevell: hey mate, you around? [10:31] but I don [10:31] Hello Keybuk, sure am. [10:31] Hi mok0 [10:31] I don't want the project to become a mess if I suddenly change things [10:31] mrevell: hi [10:31] mrevell: I'm still unable to upload, LP won't accept my GPG key [10:32] mrevell: ~scott has no listed GPG keys, when I try to add mine, I get "The key 8D2D1F62A4AC9A22FEFCB0DC21EC4FDC84AD676C has already been imported." [10:32] SHA clash ;-) [10:33] Keybuk, Hmm. Were you already speaking to someone about this? [10:33] mrevell: no, I've been unable to get anyone to talk to me about it [10:33] I'm getting rather exasperated [10:33] in fact, I'm about -> <- this far away from misquoting Yes, Minister and I'm sure we all don't want that :p [10:33] Keybuk, Ah, in which case, I'm sorry about that. [10:33] heh [10:34] Keybuk, I'll be honest and say that I don't know how to help you with this but I know a man who does. He's sinzui and he's in EST, so will be around. Do you mind if I get him to ping you when he comes online? [10:34] "mrevell, I must protest in the strongest possible terms my profound opposition to a newly instituted practice which imposes severe and intolerable restrictions upon the ingress and egress of senior members of the hierarchy" etc. [10:34] sure :p [10:34] haha [10:34] basically it seems to be an LP bug [10:35] Thanks Keybuk. I'll make sure someone helps you with this. It might just be in an hour or three. [10:35] Has someone asked a LOSA to query the DB to check which LP person that key fingerprint is associated with? [10:35] mok0, Hey, which project are we talking about? [10:36] maxb, I'd assume not. mthaddon is that something you can help with? ^^^^^ [10:36] mrevell, https://launchpad.net/gpp4 [10:36] Keybuk: I gather that that key was on the original ~scott? [10:37] wgrant: yes [10:37] mrevell: you see, the development is along one line (trunk) with milestone points 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and under each of those releases e.g. 1.2.1, 1.3.0 etc [10:37] mrevell: ... and I realized that's not the right way to do it [10:38] mrevell: looks like that gpg key is associated with ~canonical-scott [10:38] mthaddon: I deleted it from there [10:38] and it isn't listed under ~canonical-scott anymore [10:38] Keybuk: it's still in the DB :( [10:38] GPG keys cannot be deleted, only deactivted [10:38] We'll need to SQL it across. [10:38] so I'd like to reactivate it on the different account ;-) [10:39] It will make your uploaded packages appear to have come from ~scott, but that will have to do. [10:39] no it won't [10:39] because all my uploaded packages were signed by the key that's still associated to ~canonical-scott [10:39] Ah, I see. [10:39] (I think) [10:40] assuming debsign did the right thing, etc. etc. [10:40] mok0, How would you prefer to do it? [10:41] mrevell: I think 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc. should have been each a series, with milestones 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.3.0 etc. [10:43] mrevell: For example, if you go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/gpp4 you can see it says a newer version is available, but if you go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gpp4 it says it's older (which is not correct) [10:43] mrevell: so something doesn't work right with my scheme :-) [10:48] Keybuk: So, unless this is already being tracked elsewhere, you should probably enter a question for it (https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion) [10:48] mok0, I don't know how Launchpad makes that decision but bigjools may be able to help. [10:48] mok0, He'll be along in a moment. [10:49] * bigjools tries to catch up [10:49] bigjools: hi [10:50] mok0: can you re-summarise the problem? [10:50] bigjools: hang on... [10:51] are you talking about the packaging stuff? [10:51] if so, you need sinzui [10:51] maxb: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/141426 [10:52] I'd like to change the way I'm dealing with series, is it possible to change "backwards"? Development is along one line (trunk) with milestone points 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and under each of those releases e.g. 1.2.1, 1.3.0 etc [10:52] bigjools: I think 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 etc. should have been each a series, with milestones 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.3.0 etc. [10:53] mok0: The issue is that it was uploaded to ubuntu as 1.3.0, but on LP it's 1.3. [10:53] this is outside my area of expertise, sorry. sinzui is your man. [10:53] mok0: So your suggestion is probably OK. [10:53] mok0: Although you might not need separate series, depending on the project. [10:53] wgrant, I understand that, but I'd like to think of 1.3 as the "major" revision, with micro-releases (bug-fixes etc) under that hat [10:54] mok0: OK, I'd go with the separate series, then. [10:54] I'm not sure if you can rename the existing releases. [10:54] Let me see. [10:54] wgrant: I realized that is probably better. But can I change it "backwards"? I don't want to make a mess [10:55] mok0: What do you mean "backwards"? You want to change the old ones too? [10:55] wgrant: yes... to make it logical [10:55] wgrant: it might not be possible [10:56] mok0: Sure. Just create the new series, then hit 'Change details' on the existing milestone.s. [10:56] You can move them to the new series and rename them as appropriate. [10:57] wgrant, thanks, I will try that. [11:14] Keybuk, maxb: just tried to delete the GPG key per https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/141426 so it could be added to the right account and got "DETAIL: Key (id)=(344) is still referenced from table "packageupload"" - not sure if I can just change the owner id without any consequences, so I'm going to create a bug about this and link to it in the question [11:14] mthaddon: please see the UPDATE sql later in the question [11:15] ah, okay [11:16] ok, done [11:17] mthaddon: thanks === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [11:21] yup, that works, thanks [11:21] mthaddon: OOI, what happens when my Canonical acct is deleted? [11:21] in particular, to scott@ubuntu.com mail? [11:22] Keybuk: I don't think the account will be deleted, just it's membership of ~canonical terminated [11:22] no, I mean my actual Canonical userdir-ldap account [11:23] oh, no idea about that I'm afraid - you'd need to check with the GSAs [11:23] there's so many *SAs now, it's hard to keep track [11:24] there's only two! [11:24] {G,LO}SAs [11:24] aren't there USAs as well now? [11:24] It should go to your netsplit.com address... but that assumes the alias scripts handle deletion properly, which I really don't trust. [11:24] mthaddon: UOSA! [11:24] Keybuk: I deny the existence of the USA, but wgrant has rumbled me anyway... [11:25] :( [11:27] and aren't LOSAs now OSA (L&L)s ? :p [11:27] and there's Sciri, who's an OOSA? :p [11:27] yeah, LOSAs is a terrible acronym and no longer accurate... [11:27] should really be LLUIOSAs [11:27] LPLSU1ISDOSA? [11:27] That's better. [11:28] "Launchpad SysAdmin" [11:28] wgrant: we have a winner! [11:28] duckie. [11:28] jpds: duckies are different [11:28] duckies have secret extra buttons in the web interface, and look confused when you ask them anything that requires SQL changes [11:29] s/confused/disappointed/ [11:30] * Keybuk wonders what time (UTC) he officially leaves Canonical [11:33] :( [11:36] Keybuk: hotel california [11:36] (see what I did therE) [11:44] bigjools: heh, The Lamont Rule [11:44] Keybuk: good luck anyway :) [12:00] Keybuk: ubuntu-OSA as well. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:26] wgrant, can I bother you again? [12:27] mok0: Sure. [12:27] wgrant: plz take a look again: https://launchpad.net/gpp4 [12:28] mok0: You broke everything! [12:28] wgrant: :-( [12:28] wgrant: how so? [12:28] mok0: I don't know. It hasn't loaded yet. [12:28] That looks good. [12:28] wgrant: phew [12:29] Didn [12:29] 't realize it was a joke [12:29] Hah, sorry. [12:29] wgrant: I am just confused... what is "trunk" for now? [12:30] mok0: Deletion. [12:30] wgrant: ah, so I can delete that now? [12:30] mok0: You'll probably have to set your development focus to 1.3 first, but yeah, I'd delete it. [12:30] No point having it around. [12:30] wgrant: ok, I will try that [12:31] wgrant: it has no effect on the bzr branch right? [12:33] wgrant, ah yes, it looks right now... I can go ahead and delete "trunk" [12:35] mok0: Sorry, Chromium decided that 8GiB of RAM just wasn't enough. [12:35] Looking now. [12:36] Yeah, delete away. [12:36] If you can. [12:37] wgrant, uh-oh, "You cannot delete a series that is linked to packages in distribution." [12:37] mok0: Let me fix that quickly. [12:37] wgrant: thanks [12:38] wgrant: is that something you need privileges to do? [12:39] mok0: No, anyone can do it, but I was already on the relevant pages. [12:39] I just changed the series links on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpp4 [12:39] It should be OK now. [12:39] wgrant: great! thanks [12:39] Perfect [12:40] Great. [12:42] wgrant: There are not a great deal of bug reports for this software. But for a busy project, I guess you would now link a separate bazaar branch to each series, so you could deal with bug-fixes etc. ? [12:44] mok0: Yeah, larger projects often maintain their series in parallel. [12:46] wgrant: I guess what confused me is the fact that series/milestones have nothing to do with the "Code" tab (bazaar), but the two tabs exchange information anyway [13:00] * abogani waves all [13:00] Is PPA offers x86 arch support only, isn't it? So neither ARM nor PowerPC... [13:03] That is correct. It's because the PPA buildsystem requires Xen virtualization [13:04] So it's only available for architectures supported by that [13:06] maxb: Thanks! === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:45] Hello [13:46] I was added to a team that have a private branch, but when i try to access it, then, some problems with credentials are present. Somebody can help me. === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:47] Hi nhomar [13:47] Hi mrevell [13:47] nhomar, What project and branch? Feel free to private message me if you prefer. [14:01] hello, does anyone know if there's a file upload limit for launchpad project releases? [14:03] savvas0, 60MB AFAIK. [14:03] savvas0, that's per file. [14:03] ok, thank you :) [14:03] That may be out of date, but that's the last limit I knew of. [14:03] np [14:11] mrevell: ping you about? [14:12] Hi NCommander, sure am. [14:12] mrevell: see PM then :-) === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [15:46] fta, hi, the translations should be fixed, but the statistics are not up to date... I'll see if we can get them updated over the weekend, but if not, they get updated in a week's time [15:46] fta, also, I noticed that you mentioned how you do a merge yourself with upstream translations and prefer LP translations in the process; if you really do that, there should be no other worries for you either and you can just keep on doing what you've been doing [15:53] danilos, i will explain my workflow in a blog post shortly. once done, that will be easier to re-discuss this point as i'm not really sure about what you've done and why you changed it [15:54] fta, sure thing [15:54] dpm, hi, did you read my post? [15:55] fta, just send me a link once you are done, but I get frequently disconnected around here so if I don't ack, please feel free to repost :) [15:55] hi fta, this one? -> http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/new-chromium-security-update-and-translations-news/ - if that's the one, yes ;) I've just posted it to the translators FB page [15:56] dpm, i posted it on the m-l yesterday, not sure it went through though [15:56] danilos, sure, will do [15:57] fta, ah, I haven't done my daily look at posts to approve yet, I've just started. Let me do this now [15:58] dpm, the idea of this post was to motivate translators, not sure i succeeded [15:59] dpm, i subscribed to that lp m-l, a little bit against my will as i already get far too many emails from launchpad [16:00] fta, mailing lists in LP should let your posts go through if you are in "good standing" in LP even if you are not subscribed; "good standing" is something mailing list related and I don't really know what it means, but maybe sinzui does? [16:00] even with a kilometer long procmailrc file, it still floods my inbox [16:01] https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-translators/msg00277.html [16:01] it's there [16:01] so no worries [16:01] fta, the e-mail went through to launchpad-translators, so no need to approve anything. You can also deactivate reception of e-mails and keep subscribed === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [16:02] dpm, the idea was to get the emails and store them somewhere, so i can dig through and reply went i need to [16:02] (without asking you to bounce) [16:02] fta, in any case, the post looks great to me! The important thing is keep translators informed, and people loves it when there are regular updates on the status [16:03] booh, bad encoding "Iâve" === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-nom === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [16:06] dpm, btw, i noticed some untranslated parts with the Galician langpack yesterday, like the Close button, did anyone complain about it? [16:06] maybe i missed a template [16:07] fta, not that I know of, but I don't know myself where this string comes from. Perhaps I should give them a heads up. [16:08] dpm, if someone complains, a bug in lp with a screenshot and a "translation" tag would be nice [16:11] fta, that sounds good if that works for you. I still think we should put this kind of info in a wiki or a more permanent place. In any case, if you are happy with translation bugs being reported against the chromium-browser project in LP, you can add a paragraph with this info in the bug report submission guidelines in there. I'd be happy to help with that, but I don't have the permissions to edit the bug submission guidelines in there [16:11] fta, danilos, good standing will let you post to lists you are not subscribed to...but there is no way to get good standing in Lp [16:11] The standing feature was never completed [16:12] sinzui, ah, ok, thanks for the clarification [16:12] is that mased on karma somehow? [16:12] based [16:12] I would like to finish because we are using karma in the code when we mean standing [16:13] dpm, well, whatever you prefer. i remember you said the wiki for the desktop file was not the usual way [16:13] danilos, can you see standing: https://launchpad.net/~sinzui/+review [16:13] * sinzui has no menus so is not sure if it can be changed [16:13] "Not allowed here" [16:14] can't even see my own :P [16:14] I think danilos may have the power to manually change standing. I think barry had the power [16:14] fta, the desktop thing was something else, and I think it was a good compromise at the time. I think it worked quite well, especially because you were really responsive in committing the translations [16:14] fta, you should never be permitted to change your standing in the community. The community judges you [16:15] sinzui, just wanted to see it [16:16] fta. right, we should be permitted to know what our standing is. We need to decide whether to complete this feature to remove the fragments in the code === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:34] sinzui, yeah, I can change it [16:35] sinzui, you have an excellent standing, how did that happen? :) [16:36] I think I tested last year when spammers were attacking. I wanted to use standing to set privileges like linking [16:37] sinzui, right, that'd make sense [16:52] good day everyone [16:55] new problem today. in my ppa I wanted to copy package from lucid to maverick and rebuild it there. but I got "The following source cannot be copied: armel-cross-toolchain-base 1.56-ppa2 in lucid (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)" message. but armel-cross-toolchain-base was not built for maverick in this ppa before (older version of it is present in maverick archive). [16:55] what is wrong? [16:55] hrw: you can't have a source built more than once in a pool-based repository [16:56] it would result in binaries of the same version with different contents [16:56] bigjools: ok, so I have to do 1.56-ppa2maverick1 package and send for build? [16:56] hrw: if you want to rebuild, you need to re-upload, yes [16:57] ok, thx [16:57] np === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === benji is now known as benji-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [17:26] jelmer: around? [17:27] hi. are the buildds for natty not updating or something? i keep getting the error shown here, but all my natty installations install the package just fine. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62231168/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.banshee_1.9.2-1ubuntu1~hyper1%2Bnatty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [17:29] hyperair: you need libubuntuone1.0-cil [17:29] shadeslayer: which is also there. [17:29] put it in debian/contro [17:29] *control [17:29] no it isnt [17:29] shadeslayer: why would i need that? [17:29] -cil-dev depends on -cil [17:29] -cil refuses to be installed [17:29] hyperair: because libubuntuone1.0-cil-dev looks all sorts of broken since it does not depend on libubuntuone1.0-cil-dev [17:30] err [17:30] s/libubuntuone1.0-cil-dev/libubuntuone1.0-cil [17:30] it doesn't?! [17:30] its ok in maverick [17:30] seems its broken in natty [17:30] yes i know it's okay in maverick [17:30] it installs just fine in my local schroot [17:30] sbuild builds fine [17:30] ok one sec [17:31] Depends: libubuntuone1.0-cil (= 0.3.8-0ubuntu8) [17:31] it's not broken [17:33] ok .. one sec ... [17:33] hmm [17:33] hyperair: your right ... the package is fine [17:33] which means the chroot environment isn't. [17:34] yep [17:34] which is something i can't debug without spamming launchpad with a hundred and one test dummy packages [17:34] s/test dummy/dummy test/ [17:37] ^_^ [17:47] * mneptok casts Summon on barry [17:54] any ideas on how to connect a series of launchpad repositories to CIA ? [17:54] i see some scripts [17:54] shadeslayer: can CIA be configured to respond to email? [17:54] cant quite figure out how those work [17:54] mwhudson: http://cia.vc/doc/clients/ [17:55] see the 2nd and 3rd Links [17:55] i don't have time to actually think about your question, sorry :-) [17:55] ok :) [17:55] although yes, it probably can === benji-lunch is now known as benji [17:55] thats what the 2nd script does afaik === Ursinha-nom is now known as Ursinha [18:18] * mneptok casts Dispel on barry [18:49] hi, I have a question about bzr recipes in launchpad: as far as I can see it's not possible to have them for private branches [18:49] is there a way to do that? (use bzr recipes for private branches) [19:03] dpm, i think i found the problem. i need to add this template in launchpad: http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/app/resources/app_strings.grd [20:14] is there a way to create a package that works on any distro? currently I specify 'lucid' in the changelog which launchpad uses to create a lucid package, and I'd rather not have to make a new package with just the changelog updated to make a maverick package [20:23] jonrafkind: if you know that your lucid package also works in maverick (and later) you can copy it in LP to maverick [20:35] jonrafkind: there's no other way to specify which distro to build the package for [20:35] and since each release is different from the previous one, it needs to be specified === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === Meths_ is now known as Meths [21:33] geser, how is that copy done? [21:58] through the webinterface on LP [22:04] Hi guys. [22:05] Can I request a ban on Heather R Bealer (heathernshaun1) please, ref comment #345 at bug 439448 - spamming [22:05] Launchpad bug 439448 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "Visual corruption affecting several panel applets" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439448 === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk