[03:32] <Swathe> just got the ok to use linux as the OS on my work PC
[03:32] <Swathe> hooray
[03:37] <bradm> yay, 8.5m
[03:37] <bradm> we're actually not in major flood anymore! :)
[04:05] <blahdeblah> Swathe: cool!
[04:05] <blahdeblah> bradm: \o/
[04:06] <bradm> heh, I have to use Linux on my PC at work ;)
[04:06] <blahdeblah> bradm: Where are you based?
[04:06] <bradm> blahdeblah: Rockhampton
[04:07] <blahdeblah> Coming to LCA2011?
[04:07] <bradm> unfortunately, no, I couldn't organise it
[04:07] <blahdeblah> :-(
[04:07] <blahdeblah> Understandable given the circumstances, though
[04:07] <bradm> yeah
[04:07] <bradm> it would have been good, the last LCA I got to was the one we ran in Brisbane last time
[04:09] <blahdeblah> yeah, me too
[04:09] <blahdeblah> Been to the last couple of OSDCs in BrisVegas, though
[04:24] <blahdeblah> bradm: Are you full time with Canonical?
[04:26] <bradm> blahdeblah: sure am.
[04:27] <blahdeblah> Got a minute for a 
[04:27] <blahdeblah> private message?
[04:27] <bradm> sure
[06:18] <gggs-mobile> Ubuntu/X just halted completely, how can I get to a console?
[06:19] <gggs-mobile> the old ctrl+alt+bkspc doesn't work anymore
[06:21] <elky> ctrl+alt+f1 not working?
[06:22] <blahdeblah> gggs-mobile: They disabled ctrl-alt-backspace a couple of revisions ago - much to the chagrin of many people who used it
[06:23] <gggs-mobile> elky: nothing's working atm, everything's halted. I had internet radio streaming through Firefox, and it's looping ~2 sec of audio
[06:24] <gggs-mobile> strangely enough my caps-lock light is flashing on/off consistently
[06:24] <gggs-mobile> blahdeblah: ah
[06:25] <blahdeblah> gggs-mobile: Caps Lock flashing means a kernel crash
[06:27] <gggs-mobile> blahdeblah: that's a smart idea, I never knew that. I have mounted volumes & I don't really want to reboot, doesn't look like I have much choice
[06:27]  * blahdeblah hates it when there's no choice but to reboot
[06:28] <blahdeblah> The flashing caps lock doesn't happy with every crash
[06:28] <blahdeblah> s/happy/happen/
[06:29] <blahdeblah> I don't know whether if there are rules which govern it, or if they just give it their best shot, but it happens to me about 1 in every 4-5 crashes
[06:32] <gggs> really? this is actually the first time Ubuntu's ever crashed, I have a feeling it might be VirtualBox's fault
[06:32] <blahdeblah> gggs: You've been lucky
[06:32] <blahdeblah> :-)
[06:32] <blahdeblah> Or not trying hard enough
[06:34] <gggs> blahdeblah: both, I think
[06:38] <gggs> where's the crash log stored?
[06:38] <blahdeblah> If it crashes that badly, i don't think you get a log
[06:38] <blahdeblah> Check /var/log/syslog, though
[06:39] <blahdeblah> Or /var/log/kern.log
[06:41] <gggs> I can't find anything, is there any way to determine the cause of the halt?
[06:41] <blahdeblah> Try to reproduce it is about it.
[06:41] <blahdeblah> sorry - that's not accurate
[06:42] <blahdeblah> There are tools to troubleshoot, but they're usually a lot of hassle to set up and run.
[06:46] <gggs> fair enough, I thought it'd drop back to a console and give a reason
[09:12] <head_victim> nisshh: you be around for the next meeting on the 8th Feb? Or should I chair that one?
[09:18] <Swathe> anyone using thunderbird with exchange
[09:18] <nisshh> head_victim, no. i should be around
[09:19] <Swathe> evolution worked fine for me at work today but i hate it
[09:26]  * iflema poor evolution.......
[09:34] <head_victim> nisshh: no worries, I'll leave it up as you chairing then.
[09:35] <nisshh> head_victim, ok, cool
[09:36] <Swathe> i like thunderbird a lot better but hey worth the price to use linux at work now
[10:43] <blahdeblah> Swathe: Just use Thunderbird with IMAP and use all the other stuff via OWA
[10:48] <Swathe> yeah i tried it multiple times and it just wouldnt take
[10:49] <Swathe> mind you i didnt set up the exchange server so there might me something a miss
[10:50] <blahdeblah> Swathe: define "just wouldn't take"
[10:50] <blahdeblah> I've never found a mail server i couldn't bend into shape with Thunderbird
[10:50] <Swathe> wouldn't authenticate
[10:50] <blahdeblah> which options did you try?
[10:50] <Swathe> kept failing an i have no idea why
[10:51] <Swathe> well it was set up using ssl
[10:51] <blahdeblah> Yep
[10:51] <Swathe> tried username, username@domain, domain/username
[10:51] <blahdeblah> hmmm
[10:51] <blahdeblah> Googled it?
[10:52] <Swathe> i only used imapi with evolution
[10:52] <Swathe> yep
[10:53] <Swathe> gonna give it another go monday
[10:53] <Swathe> been a long week and i just wanted it up and running befor ei knocked off
[10:53] <blahdeblah> yeah
[10:53] <Swathe> i'm sure i'll get it
[10:53] <blahdeblah> I'm sure it can be done
[10:54] <Swathe> yeah i have seen it working
[10:54] <blahdeblah> This might be useful: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/
[10:54] <Swathe> i will have to go through the exchange server settings
[10:55] <Swathe> hmm nice thanks
[10:55] <Swathe> i might give that a go
[10:55] <blahdeblah> This page seems to indicate it's pretty trivial with a bare username: http://www.ehow.com/how_6455696_connect-thunderbird-microsoft-exchange-server.html
[10:56] <Swathe> yeah that's why i couldnt understand why it wasnt working
[10:56] <Swathe> we are virtualising the environment and migrating to server 08 so everything will be done from scratch anyway
[10:56] <Swathe> so i should be doing the exchange server this time so can be sure evedrything is right on that end
[12:24] <sagaci> Hi
[12:25] <nisshh> yo sagaci! :)
[12:26] <sagaci> Do you use encryption on your hard drive
[12:26] <dns53> i do
[12:28] <blahdeblah> i do
[12:28] <sagaci> Full disk encryption or a third party tool like truecrypt
[12:30] <nisshh> sagaci, i dont, but only because my main drive is an IDE and it would be horribly slow
[12:31] <sagaci> Is it dumb not having encryption or just an extra layer of security
[12:33] <nisshh> sagaci, depends, if your the only one who has access to your computer, and you dont think itll ever get stolen/lost, i wouldnt
[12:33] <nisshh> otherwise i would
[12:33] <nisshh> for instance, i will probably not encrypt my desktop's hard drive
[12:38] <sagaci> I just set it to autologin
[12:39] <nisshh> sagaci, ah right, i dont, since my sister's like prying :)
[12:40] <Swathe> auto login? ewwwww
[12:40] <nisshh> my mum's computer got formatted because she had it to auto login
[12:40] <nisshh> and my sisters played with it
[12:40] <Swathe> how?
[12:40] <nisshh> Swathe, from what i could gather, they did the whole, right click the drive, click Format, thing
[12:42] <sagaci> Well i autologin but i have a startup bios password
[12:44] <nisshh> sagaci, meh, ive never trusted BIOS's since all you have to do to get around that is remove and replace the CMOS battery and it resets the BIOS :)
[12:46] <sagaci> There is no one within a 200km radius who would even think of doing that
[12:47] <nisshh> sagaci, yeah, but it is that easy, is what im saying :)
[12:47]  * iflema try that one on a (good) laptop = tears + photos and notes =)
[12:47] <Changlinn> sagaci: can they google...
[12:47] <nisshh> iflema, hehe
[12:47] <sagaci> Yes, but i'm willing to take that risk
[12:48] <nisshh> sagaci, fair enough, just letting you know its about as secure as a windows PC :)
[12:49]  * iflema wonders if anyone here know of the grub(2) little (big) problem.....
[12:49] <nisshh> iflema, which problem?
[12:50] <iflema> nissh adding rw init=/bin/bash in boot string = reset password
[12:51]  * iflema or anythong for that matter
[12:51] <sagaci> I switched over to 64 bit today
[12:55] <nisshh> iflema, nope, never heard of a problem with that, then again, i never tried that either :)
[12:58] <iflema> nisshh: is the same as the recover option basically.... select that and change (su, root) passwd = pffff
[12:58] <nisshh> iflema, ah i see
[12:58] <nisshh> sagaci, yeah? howd it go?
[13:00] <sagaci> Good, no hiccups yet
[13:01] <sagaci> Weird seeing amd64 in apt-get
[13:02] <nisshh> heh
[13:02] <nisshh> sagaci, flash working fine?
[13:03] <sagaci> Yeah, so far
[13:03] <nisshh> cool
[13:04] <nisshh> flash is usually the one that screws itself on 64bit
[13:04] <nisshh> but it seems to be better now
[13:05] <sagaci> Have you tried natty
[13:07] <nisshh> sagaci, no, refused to run properly when i tried alpha 1
[13:08] <sagaci> I installed it fine, reboot fine them second reboot it had a graphics issue, so wasn't in the mood to fiddle with a broken system
[13:09] <sagaci> Won't try it again til the launcher is happening
[13:12] <sagaci> Vertical dock hasn't sold me
[13:13] <nisshh> sagaci, yeah