[02:01] <DrSmall> I haven't been on IRC in so long, I forget the basic commands
[02:46]  * hajour good night all
[03:13] <johnny77> paultag: you here tonight?
[03:13] <paultag> johnny77: yessir. How's Openbox treating you?
[03:14] <johnny77> paultag: Good, Thanks to you. Thank you so much for helping. I was just about at wit's end.
[03:16] <paultag> :)
[03:16] <paultag> good to hear I could help you stick with an awesome window manager
[03:17] <johnny77> paultag: It's now on to how to customize this bad boy.
[03:17] <paultag> johnny77: woo! That's the fun part :)
[03:18] <paultag> johnny77: want to start with themes?
[03:20] <johnny77> paultag: I'm not sure. I guess it doesn't really matter. I need a desktop app first, right?
[03:20] <paultag> johnny77: for desktop icons?
[03:20] <johnny77> paultag: don't I need a desktop app to do wallpaper?
[03:20] <paultag> johnny77: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox#Desktop_icons
[03:20] <paultag> johnny77: Oh, no, not at all! :)
[03:21] <paultag> johnny77: you can use something to set the buffer behind the scene
[03:21] <johnny77> paultag: How would I do that?
[03:21] <paultag> johnny77: http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Wallpapers
[03:21] <paultag> johnny77: that link is a great start
[03:22] <paultag> feh is nice
[03:22] <johnny77> paultag: You are just full of links. :)
[03:22] <paultag> johnny77: I know nothing -- I just know where to find what one needs :)
[03:32] <johnny77> paultag: now that I can set my wallpaper it's time to find one I like. :)
[03:33] <paultag> johnny77: :D
[03:58] <MrAnthrope> Can someone remind me how to get the extra effects in Compiz CCSM?
[03:58] <holstein> MrAnthrope: those were added to the right click menu right?
[03:58] <holstein> with the backgroung settings?
[03:59] <MrAnthrope> Don't see the extra effects in there. I'm sure they were in CCSM, I just can't remember how I got them there. Synaptic maybe?
[03:59] <paultag> MrAnthrope: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[04:00] <paultag> MrAnthrope: I love your nick, by the way
[04:00] <MrAnthrope> o.o
[04:00] <MrAnthrope> Can I just type sudo apt-get compizblahblah in the terminal
[04:00] <JackyAlcine> MrAnthrope: Try downloading Ubuntu Tweak; it has a feature to install CCSM and Simple CCSM
[04:00] <paultag> MrAnthrope: yes, sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[04:00] <paultag> MrAnthrope: that'll add in your extra plugins -- they split up after 9.10 iirc
[04:00] <MrAnthrope> Oh that's how I got it. Forgot to install ubuntu tweak. I just built this box this morning :) :) :)
[04:01] <JackyAlcine> MrAnthrope: :D that's the first thing I download to a fresh install. :D
[04:01] <MrAnthrope> lol
[04:01] <MrAnthrope> First thing I'm going to do is install something over this god-awful ugly purple crap. What were they THINKING?!
[04:02] <paultag> dude, it looks good!
[04:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> MrAnthrope, you ll get it added to settings-> preferences-> compizconfig settings manager
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> Yeah I remembered it was in there before but forgot how to get it in there heh.
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> Can someone also remind me how to install ubuntu-tweak?
[04:03] <JackyAlcine> MrAnthrope: the website!
[04:03] <JackyAlcine> lo
[04:03] <JackyAlcine> *lol
[04:03] <MrAnthrope> Oh noes.
[04:04] <MrAnthrope> I don't remember this at all. Disastrous.
[04:04] <JackyAlcine> Because you had to do it once :D
[04:04] <MrAnthrope> lol right
[04:04] <MrAnthrope> I'll remember the third time.
[04:05] <JackyAlcine> :D
[04:05] <MrAnthrope> Hm. Problem. my applications aren't showing up on my panel lol. I just minimized Chrome and it's gone o.o
[04:06] <MrAnthrope> ha. I deleted the window list. Silly me!
[04:13] <johnny77> paultag: Wow, there is a lot to the themes.
[04:14] <paultag> johnny77: yeah, there really is
[04:15] <MrAnthrope> Does anyone know what CCSM calls tooltip windows? I don't want effects on them and I can't use the grab tool to see the name lol
[04:15] <johnny77> paultag: I'm having trouble figuring out what each part is called.
[04:15] <MrAnthrope> I want window match to be all but tooltip.
[04:15] <paultag> johnny77: tbh I don't know much about openbox, I only know about fluxbox :)
[04:16] <johnny77> paultag: no big deal. I was just commenting... better call it a night.. talk to you later.
[04:16] <paultag> johnny77: rock on, man
[04:18] <MrAnthrope> oh. It seems it works on EVERYTHING if I just type class=
[04:22] <JackyAlcine> MrAnthrope: Yeah, I had to type in the name of the application manually.
[04:23] <MrAnthrope> I guess I'll live with tooltips beaming up. lol.
[04:23] <MrAnthrope> It's not changing color right now either which is weird. I'm going to restart. And try to find my other HDD in bios...
[06:11] <evalyn> hi
[06:11] <evalyn> i just connected thru irssi
[06:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> hi
[06:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> nice
[06:11] <evalyn> i was using xchat
[06:14] <bioterror> tomorrow telnet
[06:17] <evalyn> bioterror: what do telnet tomorrow?
[06:18] <evalyn> not sure what to do with telnet but I can try that
[06:18] <evalyn> bioterror: thanks for idea. I want to try and learn something each day if possible
[06:18] <bioterror> heh, you can do things with telnet
[06:18] <evalyn> bioterror: like what?
[06:18] <bioterror> but its rather uncomfortable for ircing
[06:19] <bioterror> evalyn, connect to different ports and see what they tells you
[06:19] <evalyn> bioterror: how to do that? ports?
[06:19] <evalyn> ???
[06:20] <bioterror> telnet ip port
[06:20] <evalyn> i have to install telnet from the synpatic pak mgr i guess
[06:21] <bioterror> if you need it
[06:21] <bioterror> but i was joking :D
[06:21] <bioterror> as ircing with telnet requires talking with server, at least it used to
[06:21] <bioterror> you had to answer to server when it pinged you
[06:22] <evalyn> o
[06:22] <evalyn> smile
[06:22] <bioterror> thats why mIRC used to prompt ping pong
[06:22] <evalyn> software center says telnet is installed
[06:22] <evalyn> the telnet client
[06:22] <evalyn> but lots of other telnet stuff in there too.
[06:22] <evalyn> putty ssh client
[06:22] <evalyn> qterm
[06:22] <evalyn> fqterm
[06:23] <evalyn> the telnet server
[06:23] <evalyn> i don't know these.
[06:23] <bioterror> terminal and telnet
[06:23] <bioterror> all you need
[06:23] <evalyn> kk
[06:24] <evalyn> i did irssi today because cprofitt says he uses this one
[06:24] <evalyn> i wanted to see
[06:24] <evalyn> I have to learn commands to use this one so wil prolly go to xchat
[06:24] <evalyn> hahahahaha
[06:24] <evalyn> i am not that smart
[06:25] <evalyn> hahahaha
[06:25] <evalyn> speaking of? what is command to exit this
[06:32] <egossett> i am in xchat now
[06:33] <egossett> this is easier for me
[07:16] <MrAnthrope> Uhg. What is the terminal command to reset screen resolution?
[07:20] <bioterror> xrandr
[07:20] <IAmNotThatGuy> MrAnthrope, for more details, look http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-adjust-screen-resolution-on-ubuntu.html
[07:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, (:
[07:21] <MrAnthrope> Yes, how do I tell xrandr to set my screen resolution to 0?
[07:21] <MrAnthrope> (it will revert to default)
[07:23] <MrAnthrope> xrandr -s 0 :D
[07:23] <MrAnthrope> thank you!
[10:11] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[13:50] <ChrisDruif> Does someone know which modded kernel would the most awesome? :P
[13:53] <ikt> the one that comes with free beer?
[13:54] <ChrisDruif> Indeed it does O:-)
[15:13] <Daniel0108> hi :)
[15:21] <ikt> heya Daniel0108 :)
[15:28] <Daniel0108> hi ikt :D
[15:51] <jermza> I'm still having trouble with my video exports from PitiVi
[15:51] <jermza> I made a quick video clip for my mate, who has Windows.  I simply exported the fle, choosing "mp4" as the extension.
[15:52] <ikt> can he open the file using vlc?
[15:52] <jermza> It played back fine on my PC, but it throws errors on 2 Windows machines that I've sent it to.
[15:52] <ikt> or is he using just the standard windows media player
[15:52] <jermza> VLC won't even open it.  It plays the audio, but not the video.
[15:53] <ikt> is it just a basic video?
[15:53] <ikt> it sounds like a video codec issue
[15:54] <jermza> A straight forward video cllip of a few seconds.
[15:55] <Daniel0108> jermza: I always render the videos made with PiTiVi in .ogg, then I convert them to mp4 and other extensions with Transmageddon
[15:55] <jermza> But shouud that be necessary>
[15:56] <jermza> PitiVi offers the export.... which doesn't work
[15:56] <jermza> As it is, UBuntu fails at all things video related.
[15:57] <paultag> jermza: did you install gstreamer?
[15:57] <paultag> jermza: we can't ship things that will make us go to jail
[15:57] <paultag> jermza: so you need to install them to avoid copyright issues
[15:57] <paultag> kthx, back to idling
[15:58] <jermza> gstreamer is already installed
[15:58] <paultag> jermza: there's no one gstreamer package
[15:58] <paultag> there's like 20
[15:58] <jermza> Which one must I install?
[15:58] <paultag> jermza: each has support for a different type of source file
[15:59] <paultag> jermza: not sure, check up on the descriptions
[15:59] <paultag> jermza: I use avis and oggs, myself
[15:59] <jermza> Everything with "gstreamer" is installed already.
[16:00] <paultag> it should be in gstreamer-plugins-bad
[16:00] <paultag> jermza: try it with vlc or mplayer or something
[16:00] <paultag> totem is a bit funy
[16:00] <paultag> funny
[16:00] <jermza> Hang on.... I can play the video fine
[16:01] <paultag> k, back to work
[16:01] <jermza> I made a video clip in Pitivi.
[16:01] <paultag> one love :)
[16:01] <jermza> Then rendered and saved as MP4
[16:01] <jermza> sent to my mate, who uses Windows
[16:01] <jermza> He can't play it.
[16:01] <jermza> I then tested it on another PC with Windows.  Also no luck.
[16:01] <paultag> jermza: file a bug with pitivi, or get the right codec for windows :)
[16:02] <jermza> VLC plays the audio, but not the video.
[16:02] <paultag> I've not used windows since 2005, so I have no idea
[16:02] <jermza> I'll try a different extension, then. :-(
[16:02] <ikt> If you've got some time grab openshot
[16:02] <paultag> jermza: mp4 sucks anyway, use avi ;)
[16:02] <paultag> +1 ikt
[16:02] <ikt> it's export is a lot more user friendly
[16:03] <paultag> *cough* *ffmpeg* *cough*
[16:03] <ikt> ^
[16:03] <jermza> Ha ha, MP4 is great.
[16:04] <jermza> It's the MP3 of video.
[16:04] <ikt> yeah
[16:06] <ikt> I just made a quick video in openshot then and exported as: web > youtube HD > 720 30p > high
[16:06] <ikt> and it works great on windows and ubuntu
[16:06] <jermza> Openshot?
[16:06] <jermza> I wonder why Ubuntu doesn't ship with Openshot.
[16:09] <paultag> jermza: we need to fit the selection on a 700 meg ISO, so we trade off big applications. It's usually how often it's size over how popular it is
[16:10] <paultag> jermza: so since no one really uses openshot when you compare it to stuff like Firefox, or EoG, it does not make it into the defaults
[16:11] <paultag> and we change it often -- F-Stop is being replaced with Shotwell this cycle
[17:26]  * hajour is having diner now
[18:31] <Daniel0108> hi
[18:32] <ikt> heya Daniel0108 :)
[18:32] <Daniel0108> hi ikt :)
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> I need help.
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> So my computer had froze one day.
[19:47] <cprofitt> hey JackyAlcine
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> And I decided, "Hey, let me just cut the power and restart."
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> So I did that.
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> And I had an issue with grub.
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> So I figured, "Okay, LiveCD"
[19:47] <JackyAlcine> I installed Maverick-Notebook 10.10 onto a USB key.
[19:48] <JackyAlcine> hey cprofitt
[19:48] <JackyAlcine> And tried fixing it there.
[19:48] <JackyAlcine> Then it booted with a kernel error.
[19:48] <JackyAlcine> I checked the drive's system and I couldn't find any kernels. >_< It was running 2.6.35-24 last time I remembered.
[19:49] <cprofitt> you current system is in this state?
[19:49] <JackyAlcine> Well, right now, there is *no* system.
[19:50] <cprofitt> so you are trying to fix it right now...
[19:51] <cprofitt> I think you might have had a disk corruption of some sort if the kernel just went away... I might try using that live CD to check the disk
[19:55] <JackyAlcine> I ran 'sudo fsck /dev/sda' and I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554145/
[19:56] <cprofitt> if you use the disk utility are you able to read smart data?
[19:56] <JackyAlcine> so I ran 'sudo e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda' and I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554146/
[19:56] <JackyAlcine> cprofitt: No, it says that it isn't supported.
[19:57] <cprofitt> ouch...
[19:57] <cprofitt> how old is the drive?
[19:57] <cprofitt> is it an actual hard drive?
[20:00] <JackyAlcine> No, it's an external USB hard drive, 320 GB, Seagate Portable; and it showed SmartData before.
[20:01] <JackyAlcine> And it's recent, a new drive, like about a month and a half old. =/
[20:01] <cprofitt> ok -- external usb would not support it
[20:01] <cprofitt> if you took it out and attached it -- you might get data
[20:02] <cprofitt> oooh... it did show smart before?
[20:02] <cprofitt> you may have a drive failure then
[20:02] <cprofitt> this link may help thought
[20:02] <cprofitt> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=43534
[20:03] <cprofitt> I am not used to uSB drives showing smart data though
[20:03] <cprofitt> I usually have to attach them to the controller
[20:12] <JackyAlcine> >_<
[20:12] <JackyAlcine> Noo. I need cprofitt
[20:18] <ikt> :(
[20:20] <JackyAlcine> I can't reformat this drive.
[20:20] <ikt> why not?
[20:20] <JackyAlcine> I think it failed, it used to show SmartData but now it doesn't.
[20:21] <ikt> hrmm
[20:22] <ikt> and you said you are unable to take the drive out of the casing?
[20:22] <JackyAlcine> It's an external USB hard drive. Unfortunately, I made it my primary harddisk.
[20:23] <ikt> bugger :/
[20:24] <ikt> are you able to attach to another system, and use the disk utility on it there?
[20:25] <JackyAlcine> I'm doing that now, via a LiveCD.
[20:25] <JackyAlcine> I'm going through the forums as well.
[20:27] <ikt> are you able to dd it?
[20:30] <JackyAlcine> No, I'll try.
[20:31] <JackyAlcine> I normally don't have this issues.
[20:31] <JackyAlcine> I don't know what to do with 'dd'.
[20:32] <JackyAlcine> ikt ^^
[20:32] <ikt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[20:32] <ikt> has a lot of the commands
[20:33] <ikt> ideally you want to try and wipe the drive
[20:33] <ikt> I assume then, when you take it back out and plug it back in, it should appear as a brand new drive
[20:35] <JackyAlcine> Yup, ikt, that's what I'm aiming for.
[20:37] <JackyAlcine> ikt, sorry for being a bugger, but it gave me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554156/
[20:37] <ikt> you're not being a bugger :D
[20:37] <ikt> hrmm it's a strange error
[20:38] <geirha> dd will write until the output file runs out of space
[20:39] <geirha> ... unless you set a count
[20:40] <ikt> if you do the next command, to "To make sure that the drive is really zeroed out"
[20:43] <ikt> but that looks right, like there wasn't a lot of data on there as well, as it only took 15 seconds to wipe the drive
[20:44] <JackyAlcine> That makes no sense, there's 150 Gbs of space used.
[20:44] <JackyAlcine> And it outputted this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554159/
[20:44] <ikt> the hard drive is 100% full?
[20:45] <JackyAlcine> No, it was 50%
[20:46] <ikt> if you check
[20:46] <ikt> sudo fdisk -l
[20:46] <ikt> to make sure there's no other partitions
[20:46] <ikt> but dd should have wiped the whole drive
[20:47] <ikt> from this angle it looks like borked drive :/
[20:48] <JackyAlcine> Nothing's popping up.
[20:48] <JackyAlcine> Like it outputs nothing.
[20:48] <ikt> o_O
[20:49] <ikt> that's about the limit of my technical knowledge :<
[20:49] <ikt> sorry I can't help you more :(
[20:49] <JackyAlcine> Thanks, ikt. You've taught me enough though, maybe I can tinker with it and see if I can at least format part of it.
[20:51] <ikt> :))
[21:17] <smiley__> i have something to ask
[21:17] <ibuclaw> !ask | smiley__
[21:17] <ubot2> smiley__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:17] <ibuclaw> :D
[21:18] <smiley__> after i updated the system with software manager,i now have two listings for ubuntu in the grub menu,why ?
[21:19] <ibuclaw> smiley__, 2 kernels
[21:19] <ikt> ^
[21:20] <ibuclaw> revision updates to kernels get installed in the same directory
[21:21] <smiley__> so one is newer that the other,correct ?
[21:21] <ibuclaw> minor/major updates go into new directories, and part of the upgrade process in kernel updates is to reconfigure grub for any changes made. And it picks up that there are 2 installed.
[21:21] <ibuclaw> one current, the other obsolete.
[21:22] <ibuclaw> of course, you can't just remove the obsolete one there and then, because your still running on the old one (need to reboot to switch :)
[21:22] <smiley__> I see,well my system seems faster..
[21:23] <smiley__> so i can boot into the old one or the new one,correct ?
[21:23] <ibuclaw> smiley__, yeah
[21:23] <smiley__> so if something dont run with the new kernel,it might with the old one..
[21:23] <smiley__> cool
[21:23] <ibuclaw> Though if the new one functions ok. You should remove the old one in due time. :)
[21:24] <komputes> Hey guys can you mark this bug as affecting you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/324700
[21:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 324700 in gnome-media (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnome-volume-control missing ability to customize session sound effects theme (affects: 41) (dups: 1) (heat: 226)" [Medium,Triaged]
[21:24] <smiley__> i also have mint insatlled
[21:24] <smiley__> and windows xp
[21:24] <JackyAlcine> komputes: that does effect me, and probably the world.
[21:24] <ibuclaw> smiley__, more like: if something goes wrong in the kernel update (ie: a working driver needed for your system no longer functions) then you can at least boot the old kernel where it is fine.
[21:25] <komputes> JackyAlcine: thanks for the support :)
[21:25] <ibuclaw> go komputes go!
[21:25]  * ibuclaw gives komputes support
[21:25] <holstein> komputes: is that wishlist?
[21:25] <komputes> holstein: nope, triaged, and enough people backing it. I'll be presenting it to DX
[21:26] <komputes> cheers ibuclaw
[21:26] <smiley__> cool,i was thinking of installing another ubuntu,to play with,but i dont want to break anything
[21:26] <komputes> smiley__: virtualbox
[21:27] <smiley__> i dont know how many ubuntus you can install..
[21:27] <JackyAlcine> ChrisDruif: Thanks for the wiki rehaul! :DF
[21:27] <JackyAlcine> *:D
[21:27]  * ibuclaw thinks VBox sux
[21:27] <JackyAlcine> smiley__: You can install as many as you please..
[21:27] <ibuclaw> KVM :~)
[21:27] <ChrisDruif> Your welcome :)
[21:27] <ChrisDruif> Great that you like it :D
[21:27] <komputes> ibuclaw: kvm is nice, but new users find VB simple
[21:28] <smiley__> cool,and it wont break any of the other os's ?
[21:28] <ibuclaw> smiley__, I assume you have an extended partition on your disk?
[21:29] <ChrisDruif> JackyAlcine: I've you've got a smaller picture, I could add it as well :) It's really big the one you've got now :)
[21:29] <smiley__> well i have windows xp,then i installed ubuntu,then i installed Linux Mint...
[21:29] <JackyAlcine> I do, but I'll attach it in a few then, after I repair my system.
[21:30] <smiley__> so right now i have xp ubuntu,and mint installed
[21:30] <ibuclaw> smiley__, maybe yes, maybe no then...
[21:30] <smiley__> i see
[21:30] <ibuclaw> smiley__, you do know that hard drives are limited to 4 primary partitions, right?
[21:30] <smiley__> yes
[21:31] <ibuclaw> kk :)
[21:31] <ibuclaw> smiley__, btw, if you go into System->Admin->Synaptic.
[21:32] <ibuclaw> See the 'Status' button in the bottom left
[21:32] <ibuclaw> and select 'Installed (local or obsolete)'
[21:32] <ibuclaw> you should be able to see the obsolete Ubuntu kernels there, and remove -> purge them
[21:34] <smiley__> ok,i see,thanks
[21:34] <smiley__> i love linux
[21:34] <smiley__> now if i just had drivers for my tv tuner i would delete windows,lol
[21:35] <ibuclaw> who needs a tvtuner when you have bbc iplayer. :~)
[21:37] <ChrisDruif> It's alright JackyAlcine :)
[21:38] <smiley__> well thanks for your help.:)
[21:50] <BR> Ok im trying to install a game but when it asks for disk two and i unhide the drive and I click ok it doesnt do anything. Can anyone help.
[21:55] <aveilleux> BR: You using WINE/PlayOnLinux?
[21:57] <JackyAlcine> *sigh*
[21:57] <JackyAlcine> I think this hard drive's "fi done".
[21:57] <raubvogel> Is Should-Start: in a /etc/init.d honored if the script is manually started?
[22:02] <BR> wine
[22:05] <UndiFineD> JackyAlcine: is it your laptop ?
[22:05] <JackyAlcine> UndiFineD! Hey!
[22:05] <JackyAlcine> And no, it's the external drive connected to it; the other drive that was in is already gone.
[22:06] <UndiFineD> you have NO luck with hardware at all
[22:06] <BR> and I have tried everything, winehq, wiki, even copied files to hd now im trying to do it from an iso from my hd
[22:06] <JackyAlcine> I really don't, lol.
[22:06] <aveilleux> BR: After putting in the second disc you have to tell WINE to re-read all drives. Applications > Wine > Configure WINE > Drives tab > Autodetect button
[22:09] <BR> ok Ill check it and see
[22:20] <JackyAlcine> The best I can do for my drive is to zero-bit and push the sectors that are corrupt to be used as swap. That way, I can turn swap off and just use the rest of the drive.
[22:21] <JackyAlcine> >_< And this drive cost me $120, I haven't any more money to buy a replacement.
[22:21] <JackyAlcine> I might be using my USB stick as a system.. =/
[22:23] <ChrisDruif> Haven't you got a warranty on that drive? :-/
[22:26] <JackyAlcine> I think I do.
[22:27] <ChrisDruif> Can't you just demand a new one then?
[22:32] <BR> still didnt work
[22:36] <BR> went to the config and click auto detect apply close then click ok in the installer but it does nothing
[23:09] <JackyAlcine> So I want to intergrate an idea to Ubuntu.
[23:09] <JackyAlcine> I'll put it up on brainstorm.ubuntu.com in a few.
[23:09] <JackyAlcine> But just to get it out there..
[23:10] <JackyAlcine> How about an intergrated IRC client that links not only according to region (#ubuntu-us-ny, #ubuntu-us-ca)
[23:10] <JackyAlcine> But like also to the topic the user needs? Live support!
[23:10] <JackyAlcine> We could have teams who troll in channels until someone asks for help or what not.
[23:10] <holstein> i think you get dumped into #ubuntu now
[23:11] <JackyAlcine> O.o
[23:11] <JackyAlcine> Me?
[23:11] <holstein> and i guess the idea is
[23:11] <holstein> you can get linked where ever from there
[23:11] <holstein> JackyAlcine: the royal 'you'
[23:11] <holstein> ;)
[23:11] <holstein> from ubuntu
[23:11] <JackyAlcine> Hmmmm.
[23:11] <holstein> maybe they stopped doing that
[23:11] <holstein> JackyAlcine: good idea
[23:12] <JackyAlcine> I'll start it up. :D
[23:13] <Red-Raven> hey.
[23:13] <holstein> Red-Raven: o/
[23:13] <holstein> going well?
[23:14] <Red-Raven> yah. except nuatalus (sp?) is freaking out.
[23:14] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Nautilus
[23:14] <Red-Raven> thx.
[23:14] <holstein> show it who's boss
[23:15] <Red-Raven> anyways, the veiw setting got screwed up. i didn't change them. now its all white and looks...old-ish.
[23:15] <holstein> theme?
[23:15] <holstein> maybe
[23:16] <Red-Raven> yah. checked it. the theme is dusty, which is what i've had it on for a while.
[23:16] <holstein> hmmm
[23:17] <Red-Raven> besides settings>prefs>appearance, are there any other things that could change it?
[23:17] <holstein> im sure there is
[23:17] <Red-Raven> i have compiz. maybe those settings...
[23:17] <holstein> nothing obvious that i can think of though
[23:18] <holstein> Red-Raven: i wouldnt think compiz
[23:18] <Red-Raven> yah didn't see anything obvious there.
[23:19] <holstein> Red-Raven: you could look in .nautilus
[23:19] <holstein> in your home dir
[23:19] <holstein> not sure
[23:30] <Red-Raven> its not in /.
[23:31] <holstein> /home/you/.nautilus
[23:31] <holstein> ~/.nautilus
[23:36] <Red-Raven> is there a command to open the current directory while in terminal?
[23:37] <Red-Raven> like if i say "cd desktop", is there a command to open desktop in nautilus?
[23:37] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: nautilus .
[23:37] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Include the period
[23:38] <Red-Raven> ok. it worked, but there's nothing in it.
[23:38] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Then there's nothing on your Desktop?
[23:38] <Red-Raven> no in nautilus/
[23:38] <Red-Raven> .*
[23:39] <holstein> mine is empty too
[23:39] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Yes your desktop is usually empty.
[23:39] <holstein> not sure what is suppose to be in there
[23:39] <holstein> just a good place to look
[23:39] <Red-Raven> ok.
[23:39] <holstein> when things go funky
[23:39] <holstein> Red-Raven: take a screenshot if you want
[23:39] <holstein> use imagebin
[23:40] <holstein> maybe someone will know
[23:41] <ChrisDruif> Hmmm...desktop issues in Nautilus?
[23:42] <Red-Raven> no. nautilus's theme changed and i didn't do that myself.
[23:42] <Red-Raven> my .nautilus file was empty though.
[23:43] <ChrisDruif> Alright..
[23:43] <ChrisDruif> Sorry...can't help :)
[23:44] <holstein> Red-Raven: there is a suggestion here
[23:44] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650098
[23:45] <holstein> to remove ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus
[23:47] <Red-Raven> thx.
[23:48] <Red-Raven> i hate not seeing if it worked. but no output=it worked right?
[23:48] <aveilleux> Red-Raven: Yes
[23:49] <Red-Raven> simple enough.
[23:52] <Red-Raven> brb.