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| geser | pitti: Hi, I saw your blog entry about "check-mir". Is it much different than the existing "404main" script in u-d-t? Perhaps they can get merged. | 08:45 |
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| bdrung | pitti: why did you do three uploads instead of letting review someone your changes? the upload should have done to debian. | 09:14 |
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| hunger | Anyone looking into #176125 for natty? It was rejected for 8.04 saying that ipv6 was not widely used, but with world ipv6 day coming up that might change. | 10:08 |
| virtuald | nat vs ipv6 is the real y2k | 10:26 |
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| \sh | hmm....unity is very strange regards to the use...updating from maverick to natty gives me a unity where I can't do anything...expect launching nautilus windows, a firefox + tomboy and workspace switcher...strange | 10:44 |
| \sh | or I don't get it somehow | 10:44 |
| Tm_T | <place joke about the simplicity and gnome here> | 10:47 |
| \sh | Tm_T: I just need to poke jcastro about how to use it for real...;) | 10:50 |
| Tm_T | I should try it again | 10:57 |
| \sh | after dist-upgrade just now...it's broken | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | \sh: that'll be the default out of the box, the app launcher from unity in une is still being worked on I hope at which point you will lose the nautilus application launcher you get when clicking on the ubuntu icon | 11:05 |
| davmor2 | \sh: you can at least add and remove apps from the launcher now though | 11:06 |
| \sh | davmor2: right now, the launcher won't even be started | 11:14 |
| \sh | (after update this morning) | 11:14 |
| \sh | but I think it has something to do with compiz..because classical desktop doesn't show any window decoration, too | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | \sh: alt-ctrl-f1 and run unity --reset that might fix it for you | 11:15 |
| \sh | let's try | 11:15 |
| \sh | davmor2: no...it takes me to the console, yes...but I can't type in any characters the console isn't even updated (nvidia card here) | 11:16 |
| \sh | ah | 11:17 |
| \sh | no wonder | 11:17 |
| \sh | unity is not installed anymore, it was removed because compiz-core-abiversion-20101111 is not installable | 11:17 |
| \sh | so compiz is the bugger in general | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | \sh: yeap that would kill it | 11:18 |
| \sh | but alas...metacity --replace doesn't work, too ;) | 11:18 |
| davmor2 | \sh: but you should be able to choose gnome classic from the login for now | 11:21 |
| \sh | davmor2: sure...but even that doesn't work, because of compiz...I have to disable the effects somehow...but why does metacity --replace doesn't work..that's more strange | 11:27 |
| davmor2 | \sh: I don't have compiz-core-abiversion-20110113 installed either but I have unity up and running | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | \sh: now how ever it's died which isn't so useful for testing :) | 11:38 |
| \sh | davmor2: hehe :) | 11:44 |
| \sh | well it's an unstable release...so it's with purpose ;) | 11:45 |
| davmor2 | \sh: I'm safe I have yesterdays image on usbstick, well you can't make an omelette without breaking a few packages or something like that :) | 11:46 |
| \sh | davmor2: don't say that too loud...I have a complete redeployment to do over the weekend..more then 400 servers needs to get lucid and we do a complete FAI redeployment run, and trying to avoid downtimes...;) | 11:50 |
| davmor2 | \sh: they already broke that lucid package during it's dev cycle you should be safe now :D | 11:51 |
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| al-maisan | hallo pitti, quick question: will postgresql-9 be in natty? | 13:54 |
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| geser | al-maisan: unless something changed, no (I asked the same in the past) | 14:18 |
| al-maisan | thanks geser ! | 14:18 |
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| ricotz | cjwatson, hello, do mind having a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgcrypt11/+bug/702765 | 15:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 702765 in libgcrypt11 (Ubuntu) "Please update to libgcrypt11 1.4.6" [Undecided,New] | 15:58 |
| pitti | almaisan-away: I'm not sure myself yet | 16:01 |
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| pitti | geser: probably just because the name didn't tell me anything :/ | 16:02 |
| micahg | ricotz: it's usually better to add a debdiff or a branch for merges from Debian to make sure there are no tarball mismatches and so it's clear what the diff from Debian is | 16:02 |
| pitti | geser: I agree, they should be merged, I'll put that on my list | 16:03 |
| ricotz | micahg, yeah, the debdiff would be https://edge.launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/staging/+files/libgcrypt11_1.4.5-2ubuntu2_1.4.6-2ubuntu1%7Ebuild1.diff.gz | 16:03 |
| ricotz | micahg, i'll attach it to the bug | 16:03 |
| micahg | ricotz: no, I meant between the Debian version and your merge | 16:03 |
| ricotz | micahg, ok | 16:04 |
| micahg | ricotz: that way the sponsor can grab the Debian package and just add your diff to it | 16:04 |
| pitti | bdrung: ubuntu-dev-tools is in Debian? okay, I'll do that next time then | 16:05 |
| e01|afk | hello, i am trying to compile smartcam driver, but getting error "smartcam.c:32:27: fatal error: linux/vmalloc.h: No such file or directory" | 16:05 |
| pitti | bdrung: but that doesn't seem to work too well then? there were tons of changes which never got uploaded | 16:05 |
| e01|afk | i have installed kernel headers, and kernel source | 16:05 |
| bdrung | pitti: because two branches are waiting for review and merge. | 16:05 |
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| bdrung | pitti: you didn't gave me time to review your change. | 16:06 |
| pitti | well, I wasn't aware that we are supposed to | 16:06 |
| pitti | we don't do that for any other package in Ubuntu | 16:06 |
| bdrung | pitti: did you build the package before uploading it? | 16:06 |
| pitti | sorry if I broke the custom there, wasn't intended | 16:06 |
| pitti | bdrung: sure | 16:06 |
| pitti | bdrung: the test case failure didn't happen locally | 16:07 |
| pitti | as I do have deb-src lines | 16:07 |
| bdrung | pitti: we started to review our changes since some releases. | 16:07 |
| bdrung | ok, so "check-mir --help" did the same as "check-mir" | 16:09 |
| bdrung | pitti: you forgot to update d/copyright | 16:10 |
| bdrung | pitti: and 2. can you add the examples from http://www.piware.de/2011/01/new-tool-to-check-support-status-of-dependencies/ to the man page? | 16:10 |
| pitti | bdrung: ack, will do | 16:11 |
| pitti | bdrung: but I'll probably just merge it with 404main | 16:11 |
| pitti | and then update the manpage accordingly | 16:11 |
| pitti | (see convesation with geser above) | 16:12 |
| ricotz | micahg, done, thanks | 16:12 |
| bdrung | pitti: ah, yes. this was my third point: only one script should stay | 16:12 |
| pitti | bdrung: I'd like to keep check-mir as an alias, if you don't mind? | 16:13 |
| bdrung | pitti: or we can drop 404main and use check-mir instead? | 16:14 |
| pitti | I'll check out whether either is a superset of the other | 16:14 |
| pitti | I think 404main works on Packages.gz while check-mir works in a source package tree | 16:14 |
| pitti | (i. e. while you package something or do a merge) | 16:14 |
| pitti | but it sholdn't be too hard to support both | 16:14 |
| pitti | i. .e parse debian/control, or a package name from apt.Cache() | 16:15 |
| bdrung | pitti: the man page should mention where the script takes the data from. | 16:15 |
| pitti | *nod* (mine does, it says "source package directory") | 16:16 |
| apw | pitti, natty seems to be asking to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and unity right now ... is that a transient or are we in trouble | 16:16 |
| bdrung | pitti: where do the data about the archive come from? | 16:17 |
| pitti | apw: known | 16:17 |
| pitti | apw: seb128 and didrocks are working hard on it | 16:17 |
| pitti | bdrung: apt | 16:17 |
| pitti | (in both cases) | 16:17 |
| apw | pitti, thanks | 16:19 |
| bdrung | pitti: this should be documented in the man page | 16:23 |
| pitti | bdrung: all added to my todo list now | 16:24 |
| bdrung | thanks | 16:24 |
| pitti | bdrung: (context, this came up as an important thing in this week's "how can we make MIRs suck less" report) | 16:24 |
| pitti | s/report/meeting/ | 16:24 |
| bdrung | pitti: i need to have the apt sources for natty in my sources.list to get a correct report from check-mir, correct? | 16:26 |
| pitti | bdrung: for now, yes | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | ricotz: I'm not really familiar with libgcrypt11, sorry | 16:26 |
| bdrung | pitti: for now? are there plans to change that? | 16:27 |
| pitti | I was pondering using LP or apt, but the latter is a lot faster and works offline, and devs shold be using the release they are developing for anyway | 16:27 |
| pitti | bdrung: I guess it depends on the feedback | 16:27 |
| bdrung | pitti: at least this should be documented. :) | 16:27 |
| ricotz | cjwatson, ok, you were the available person who touched it once ;) | 16:27 |
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| ari-tczew | ricotz: just subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 16:40 |
| ricotz | ari-tczew, already done this | 16:52 |
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| Riddell | skaet: do we hvae an archive admin meeting now? | 17:23 |
| skaet | Riddell, yup, room 512 | 17:23 |
| Riddell | skaet: now or 10 mins? | 17:24 |
| StevenK | I'm heading up now | 17:24 |
| skaet | Riddell, starting at 11:30. Am in the room now. | 17:24 |
| * skaet slaps head, she did it again, its 514, not 512. (room change....) | 17:27 | |
| skaet | ^^Riddell | 17:27 |
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| hallyn | just curious, does anyone else get a crash when they run 'cal' on their natty system? | 18:46 |
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| janimo | hallyn, I get a crash indeed | 18:48 |
| hallyn | janimo: cool, not just me :) | 19:00 |
| hyperair | when uploading an SRU of a package without any ubuntu changes, i.e. something like 1.2.3-4, what should the resulting version be? | 19:05 |
| hyperair | also, if i want to upload pretty much the same version to both maverick-proposed and natty, should i just upload it to maverick-proposed and have it copied over to natty, or should i upload it to natty, mangle the version, and upload to maverick-proposed? | 19:06 |
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| geser | hyperair: 1.2.3-4ubuntu0.1 for the SRU, and I guess about a new upload to natty, don't know if AA do copies in that direction | 19:23 |
| Laney | they do if the versions are the same | 19:31 |
| Laney | oh, sorry, upload to -proposed only and it will be copied to N | 19:32 |
| directhex | now running extended test of banshee on arm | 19:52 |
| Laney | is that "Playing Pink Floyd — The Dark Side Of The Moon while dancing in my underpants"? | 19:54 |
| kklimonda | Laney: they do? is it a standard practice, or something done only just after release, when there are some SRUs being pushed as soon as possible? | 19:58 |
| Laney | kklimonda: It's standard when the versions are the same | 19:58 |
| kklimonda | ok, thanks | 19:59 |
| janimo | directhex, I have just commented on bug 619981 | 20:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 619981 in mono (Ubuntu Natty) "Banshee crashed while sitting idle on omap4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619981 | 20:12 |
| \sh | depwaits are rebuild automagically? or does someone have to give it back? | 20:32 |
| StevenK | The former | 20:32 |
| \sh | StevenK: timeframe? minutes or hours? ;) | 20:33 |
| directhex | janimo, i'm seeing some other weirdness with audio - but i don't know who's to blame. possibly pulse... i'm gonna have to upgrade this thing to natty aren't i | 20:33 |
| StevenK | The dependant package has to publish first and then it should notice in another hour or so? | 20:33 |
| StevenK | I guess? | 20:33 |
| \sh | StevenK: ok...just asking because unity is depwait on libdee and libdee was published 26 mins ago ... | 20:34 |
| StevenK | libdee might be in universe | 20:34 |
| \sh | StevenK: no it'sin main, at least that's what lp tells me ;) | 20:35 |
| StevenK | libdee is the source name? | 20:36 |
| \sh | StevenK: no...that's bin name, dee is srv name | 20:36 |
| \sh | s/srv/src/ | 20:36 |
| \sh | dear puppet and drbd gods, please let my puppet recipe for drbd be correct | 20:36 |
| janimo | directhex, I have heard of audio issues with banshee but did not look into it at all so far | 20:37 |
| directhex | janimo, need to install another gstreamer player to see if it's isolated. persists between banshee restarts, so it's weird | 20:37 |
| directhex | is exaile gst? i have that | 20:37 |
| janimo | directhex, no idea, but I hope it does not have its own codecs :) | 20:39 |
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| directhex | hm, the file player i tried, parole, is file based. super weird. | 20:39 |
| apw | pitti, am i expecting the unity/compiz issue to be untangled? | 20:44 |
| apw | pitti, seems to have gotten worse here | 20:44 |
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| SpamapS | jdstrand: got a second to take a look at the updated cobbler copyright file? | 20:59 |
| \sh | apw: unity ftbfsed | 20:59 |
| pitti | apw: seems didrocks is uploading like mad, but the local mirror lag of course doesn't help a lot | 21:11 |
| pitti | apw: for now I suggest to only use upgrade | 21:11 |
| jdstrand | SpamapS: sorry, I was training someone | 21:43 |
| hallyn | jdstrand: new vmbuilder version is in lp:~serge-hallyn/vmbuilder-staging/, and in people.c.c:~serge/public_html/vm-builder-0.12.4+bzr462-debs.tgz (has the .debs and the source) | 21:44 |
| hallyn | jdstrand: no hurry at all, but when you get a chance could you sponsor that for natty? | 21:44 |
| SpamapS | jdstrand: no worries.. its not been uploaed yet | 21:44 |
| jdstrand | SpamapS: if you feel it is good, feel free to upload it. we can talk via irc if there is an issue (I really need the whole source) | 21:45 |
| jdstrand | hallyn: ok | 21:45 |
| hallyn | jdstrand: thanks | 21:46 |
| james_w | SpamapS, hi, could you please run "bzr reconfigure --unstacked lp:~clint-fewbar/ubuntu/maverick/moin/merge-1.9.3-1" or delete the branch? | 22:04 |
| james_w | SpamapS, I'm trying to delete the branch that it is stacked on and I can't | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | james_w: certainly.. | 22:07 |
| SpamapS | jdstrand: ack .. will do | 22:08 |
| SpamapS | james_w: done | 22:09 |
| james_w | SpamapS, thank you | 22:09 |
| SpamapS | james_w: any chance you can get sysvinit to not fail too? ;) | 22:14 |
| SpamapS | http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/sysvinit.html#2010-06-16 12:21:03.212483 | 22:14 |
| james_w | SpamapS, hmm, needs some investigation | 22:14 |
| james_w | I'll try and escalate it in here | 22:15 |
| SpamapS | james_w: is there any way I can help w/ stuff like that? | 22:16 |
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| jdstrand | hallyn: uploaded | 22:48 |
| jcastro | robbiew: Debian meeting! :) | 23:01 |
| robbiew | jcastro: yeah...yeah | 23:03 |
| kees | jcastro: ooh, I can read your screen | 23:03 |
| kees | jcastro: http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat#DifferencesbetweenDEP5andSPDX | 23:29 |
| pitti | dpm: hi! maverick ppa cronjob is currently disabled, would you know why we did that? | 23:39 |
| pitti | dpm: we don't seem to have any in -proposed right now | 23:40 |
| dpm | pitti, probably it was disabled during the testing period of the maverick updates we did recently and was never enabled back | 23:40 |
| pitti | dpm: I re-enable them for now | 23:40 |
| pitti | *nod* | 23:41 |
| dpm | pitti, cool, thanks | 23:41 |
| pitti | dpm: I rolled out danilo's po2xpi branch and added a switch to use the old one for lucid/maverick | 23:41 |
| pitti | dpm: let's see how this goes | 23:41 |
| pitti | dpm: I'll request a full export now, for a2 | 23:41 |
| pitti | and disable the automatic natty cronjob | 23:42 |
| dpm | pitti, ah, cool. I haven't seen danilo since we spoke earlier on. Has his branch been merged into the mozillateam trunk? | 23:42 |
| pitti | dpm: not yet, I checked out his branch for now | 23:42 |
| dpm | ok | 23:42 |
| pitti | cjwatson: my plymouth fix just made it to upstream trunk, so you can drop it if/when you do The Big Merge From Hell | 23:44 |
| soren | The fact that we generally start daemons once they're installed (rather than asking users to enable them first)... Is that policy written down anywhere? I can't seem to find any reference (other than the dozens of packages we have that do it). | 23:45 |
| StevenK | pitti: Ooooh, can haz diff? | 23:45 |
| \sh | soren: which ones? | 23:45 |
| pitti | StevenK: apt-get dist-upgrade? | 23:45 |
| StevenK | pitti: I just wanted to see the code difference | 23:45 |
| soren | \sh: Which ones what? | 23:45 |
| \sh | soren: daemons | 23:46 |
| pitti | StevenK: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/plymouth/commit/?id=f8874cb4b0725f605dc710cc845e6b5ff52ad539 | 23:46 |
| soren | \sh: Which ones we start by default? Um... Pretty much all of them? Apache, dovecot, ntp.. Which ones don't we start by default? | 23:46 |
| pitti | StevenK: that wasn't actually the cause for the corruption, but it works around the gcc bug, and is a correct thing anyway | 23:46 |
| StevenK | pitti: Crumbs, 2 line diff | 23:47 |
| pitti | StevenK: as always, the patch is trivial once you found where to stab it :) | 23:47 |
| \sh | soren: just asking, because services like tftp-hpa we don't start by default, or dhcpd ;) | 23:47 |
| pitti | StevenK: https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=33129 if you are interested in details | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 33129 in general "integer overflow in blend_two_pixel_values()" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 23:47 |
| soren | \sh: dhcpd because there are no good, safe defaults. | 23:48 |
| soren | tftp-hpa... I don't know. | 23:48 |
| \sh | soren: but I agree, apache etc. should not be started by default until they are configured properly | 23:48 |
| soren | I'm not saying they shouldn't. | 23:48 |
| soren | At all. | 23:48 |
| soren | I think they totally should be started by default. | 23:49 |
| soren | If there are good, safe defaults I see no point in adding extra hoops to jump through. | 23:51 |
| \sh | oh wow...my 7TB storage is syncing automagically after deployment...I won | 23:52 |
| cjwatson | pitti: thanks | 23:56 |
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