[01:51] <Kano> is there something wrong with fglrx + u 37-12 kernel?
[01:51] <Kano> all i get is a crash
[01:52] <Kano> with 37 mainline it works
[02:25] <jjohansen> Kano: which 37 mainline?
[02:26] <jjohansen> ie. how recent?  What is the head?
[02:26] <Kano> yes 37 mainline kernel compared to 37-12
[02:27] <jjohansen> Kano: right, but how recent is the mainline?
[02:27] <Kano> well i did not test ubuntu, i tested with debian squeeze
[02:27] <Kano> 2.6.37 final
[02:27] <Kano> the u precompiled one
[02:27] <Kano> will check nvidia tomorrow, but fglrx never worked
[02:28] <Kano> http://kanotix.com/files/hellfire/ubuntu/
[02:28] <Kano> thats that i used
[02:29] <Kano> test system was i7-880 with hd5670 64 bit
[02:29] <Kano> nothing changed expect kernel, .37 mainline works...
[02:30] <jjohansen> Kano: hrmmm okay, I am not aware of any issues but I haven't been following the video drivers closely
[02:30] <jjohansen> I'll poke apw and see if he knows anything
[02:31] <Kano> maybe i install u tomorrow too
[02:31] <Kano> but thats really curious
[02:31] <jjohansen> Kano: yeah it is, what behavior did you see?
[02:31] <Kano> crash on load of kdm
[02:31] <jjohansen> black screen on boot, purple ubuntu screen
[02:32] <Kano> i tested it with debian squeeze currently
[02:32] <Kano> but u kernel
[02:32] <Kano> + firmware+wireless-crda
[02:32] <jjohansen> right, I recalled after the puple ubuntu screen Q
[02:33] <jjohansen> so none of the crazy plymouth boot issues
[02:33] <Kano> well i have got plymouth installed,but p works with mainline too
[02:33] <Kano> it does not matter if i disable it or not
[02:34] <Kano> using oss ati driver x works
[02:36] <Kano> basically i thought i could use u kernel now without recompile, i always disabled your hpa hack
[02:36] <Kano> but that was reverted for -12 kernel... so i wanted to try it
[02:37] <jjohansen> ah, well I'm not sure why it isn't working, especially with mainline .37 working
[02:37] <Kano> well the gcc is definitely different which is used
[02:37] <Kano> i can install mainline kernel even with lenny
[02:37] <jjohansen> Kano: which mainline did you use?
[02:37] <jjohansen> ie who built it
[02:38] <Kano> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.37-natty/
[02:38] <jjohansen> okay, that should be the same version of gcc
[02:38] <Kano> the linux headers install with lenny libc6
[02:39] <Kano> but not the natty ones
[02:39] <Kano> so gcc is different
[02:40] <jjohansen> hrmmm /me is puzzled, our mainline kernels should be using the same build env
[02:40] <Kano> they dont use pbuilder
[02:40] <Kano> i really like the mainline kernels because of the backwards compat
[02:41] <Kano> you have to disable modeset then you can use em with lenny too
[02:43] <jjohansen> ah nice, I wasn't aware they were that backwards compatable
[02:43] <Kano> only when you know what you do ;)
[02:49] <Kano> the hardy gcc is used, hardy is mainly compatible with lenny
[02:49] <Kano> Linux version 2.6.37-020637-generic (root@zinc) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #201101050908 SMP Wed Jan 5 10:17:13 UTC 2011
[02:49] <Kano> from cat /proc/version
[03:00] <lamont> I'm going to guess that seeing something on 3 different machines with three (or is it 2?) different types of hardware makes it likely to be in the kernel, not the individual hardware...
[03:01] <lamont> when I hit the disk drive really hard, the swraid devices seem to decide that one of the drives has failed (usually complaining about a timeout in SCSI).. rebooting the machine magically restores everything to hunky-dory status
[03:01] <lamont> lucid and maverick kernels, fwiw
[03:02] <Kano> and pure mainline too?
[03:02] <lamont> haven't looked
[03:02] <lamont> lacking a machine to test on
[03:14] <lamont> I may have to eat my words... the most recent failure may well have been a controller falling over