[13:12] <leoquant> via: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar I try to add an event via a gmail account to ubuntu : http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar
[13:13] <leoquant> but the event isn't on the fridge yet
[13:13] <leoquant> someone into fridge calendar?
[13:14] <Pendulum> leoquant: you may get better luck asking in #ubbuntu-news
[13:14] <Pendulum> er... #ubuntu-news
[13:14] <leoquant> oki
[13:14] <leoquant> thx
[14:48] <jam>  /who jam
[15:58]  * ara waves
[16:00]  * joshuahoover waves
[16:01] <pitti> o/
[16:01]  * marjo waves
[16:01] <apw> o/
[16:02] <ara> skaet is coming in a minute
[16:02] <ara> she's having connection issues
[16:02] <ara> here she is!
[16:03] <skaet> #startmeeting
[16:03] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:03. The chair is skaet.
[16:03] <ogra> woohoo
[16:03] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:03] <skaet> :)
[16:03] <skaet> thanks ara
[16:03] <skaet> Reminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.    If someone wants to comment on the last point, please "o/", so we know to wait
[16:03] <skaet> [Topic] Natty overview - skaet
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Natty overview - skaet
[16:03] <skaet> Agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-01-14
[16:04] <skaet> Alpha 2 tasks, as indicated by the burn down charts are starting indicate progress, but overall above trend line.  see: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/all-natty-alpha-2.html
[16:04] <skaet> Milestoned bugs for alpha2 can be found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33572.
[16:04] <skaet> given that we've all been at the rally this week, there hasn't been much progess on the bugs and its starting to get a bit worrying.
[16:05] <skaet> Could the leads please take a look at them and update them in the wiki, after the meeting if they don't have comments ready today.
[16:05] <pitti> ack
[16:05] <skaet> are there any questions?
[16:05] <skaet> ..
[16:06] <skaet> [Topic] update on action items - skaet
[16:06] <skaet> see agenda for latest status.  overall some good progress on that front this week.  :)
[16:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  update on action items - skaet
[16:06] <skaet> ..
[16:07] <skaet> any further updates that need to be added?   new issues?
[16:07] <skaet> ok then on to the round tables...
[16:07] <skaet> [Topic] QA team update - marjo
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA team update - marjo
[16:08] <marjo> Natty Work Items
[16:08] <marjo> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-platform-qa-natty-alpha-2.html
[16:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-platform-qa-natty-alpha-2.html
[16:08] <marjo> pitti: is that better? :)
[16:08] <marjo> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa
[16:08] <marjo> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-server-n-qa
[16:08] <marjo> hggdh and zul made some progress this week
[16:08] <marjo> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-qa-n-bugsquad-doc-review
[16:08] <marjo> 100% pedro finished work item this week
[16:09] <skaet> :)
[16:09] <marjo> thank you pedro!
[16:09] <skaet> thank you from me too.  :)
[16:09] <marjo> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-qa-n-bugsquad-roadmap
[16:09] <marjo> [brian-murray] bdmurray Add support information to bug reporting guidelines: BLOCKED on http://launchpad.net/bugs/692787
[16:09] <marjo> [charlie-tca] create bugsquad-mentor-teamA icon / artwork: Will worked on it this week
[16:09] <marjo> QA Dashboard
[16:09] <marjo> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html
[16:09] <marjo> Note: alsa-driver, light-themes & grub2 as top packages with new bugs
[16:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html
[16:10] <marjo> QA Team has been busy creating new desktop integration tests this week. 36 new tests as of yesterday.
[16:10] <marjo> ..
[16:10] <skaet> :)  thanks marjo
[16:10] <skaet> any questions?
[16:10]  * skaet is happy to see the new tests emerging - YAY!
[16:10] <marjo> skaet: ack!
[16:11] <skaet> [Topic] Hardware Certification team update - ara
[16:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Hardware Certification team update - ara
[16:11] <ara> hello all!
[16:11] <ara> So, the main thing to comment is that the issue that we had with our infrastructure that prevented us from testing the servers is now fixed
[16:11] <ara> \o/
[16:11] <skaet> *\o/*
[16:11] <ara> So this week we were able to test clients and servers
[16:11] <ara> The report is available, as usual, at:
[16:11] <ara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/current
[16:11] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/current
[16:11] <ara> The only important issue that we got was a kernel panic in one of the servers when installing the server image. We reported the bug:
[16:11] <ara> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/702166
[16:11] <ara> It can be a natty issue for that HW, so it might be good to track that one.
[16:11] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/702166
[16:12] <ara> ..
[16:12] <skaet> Thanks ara,  will add that one to the list
[16:12] <skaet> thanks for flagging.
[16:12] <skaet> any questions for ara?
[16:12] <skaet> [Topic] Security team update - jdstrand
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security team update - jdstrand
[16:13] <jdstrand> hi
[16:13] <skaet> hi
[16:13] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:13] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:13] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html
[16:13] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html
[16:13] <jdstrand> We have gone through all our unfinished work items, reprioritized and brought them into reality. Our burndown looks considerably better now. We have been able to work on and close a few during the rally as well. (yea :)
[16:13] <skaet> :)
[16:14] <jdstrand> In terms of bugs, there are a couple of natty/firefox bugs I need to follow up on, but they are minor. We have no pending features for alpha-2.
[16:14] <jdstrand> (related to apparmor)
[16:14] <skaet> ack
[16:14] <jdstrand> the gimp security bug is undergoing triage as we speak
[16:14] <jdstrand> ..
[16:15] <skaet> thanks jdstrand!   any questions?
[16:15]  * skaet will take a closer look at the unfinished work items later today   :)
[16:15] <skaet> [Topic] Kernel team update - apw
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel team update - apw
[16:16]  * skaet looks around for apw...
[16:17] <apw> o/
[16:17] <skaet> :)
[16:17] <apw> Overall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for the release milestone is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:
[16:17] <apw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:17] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-natty-alpha-2.html
[16:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:17] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-natty-alpha-2.html
[16:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:17] <apw> We are progressing on our natty-alpha-2 items, some of the natty-alpha-1 items remain but we continue to close them.  The remaining pushed out items are listed with background on the overall status above (first link).  Overall burndown we are still below the line, so we should be able to catch up.  This week a number of security related items were postponed improving things significantly.
[16:17] <apw> (thanks jdstrand :)
[16:17] <apw> Of the bugs called out on the agenda: #686692 is likely related to the low memory constraints of this image type, investigation centres on this; #621195 are reporting benign messages, we are looking at suppressing these in production; for the rest there is little progress due to Rally commitments, status for all of these bugs are included on the first link above.
[16:17] <apw> The main distro kernel remains at v2.6.37, we will remain on this version for a couple of weeks while the early 2.6.38 release candidates shake out.
[16:18] <apw> ..
[16:18] <pitti> ah, so plan is to have .38 in natty?
[16:18] <pitti> or backports from it?
[16:18] <pitti> (won't get that a little tight for .38 final?)
[16:18] <apw> pitti, the plan is to aim for .38 yes, that is best alligned with timing and things like touch
[16:19] <skaet> thanks apw.
[16:19] <apw> np
[16:20] <skaet> will the bugs get some focus next week?   they've been hanging around for a while now.  (understandable with holidays, rally, etc - but alpha 2 is approaching :p )
[16:21] <apw> skaet, yeah as mainline is quiet we'll have some time
[16:21] <skaet> cool.  :)
[16:21] <skaet> any other questions?
[16:21] <skaet> [Topic] Foundations team update - cjwatson
[16:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations team update - cjwatson
[16:21] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html
[16:21] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html
[16:21] <cjwatson> Very pleased with work item progress this week; well below the trend line now, and good progress on lots of other substantial pieces of work
[16:21] <cjwatson> Bugs: Oh dear.  Sorry.  I promise to go through these in detail with the team today!
[16:21] <cjwatson> Feature update:
[16:21] <cjwatson> Upstart overrides code-complete; lots of discussions with kernel on improving testing landscape for upstart
[16:22] <cjwatson> Upstart-in-initramfs detailed planning work; this is likely to be a multi-cycle project, but we're past the initial pain points now
[16:22] <cjwatson> Ratings-and-reviews ready for deployment on staging; no blockers envisioned for deployment on production by feature freeze; need to consider further improvements for spam-resistance and similar
[16:22] <cjwatson> Hacking usb-creator into shape, and bringing ayan up to speed on it; research work on disk testing framework for usb-creator and ubiquity
[16:22] <cjwatson> Two test rebuilds:
[16:22] <cjwatson>  - general buildability (http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110107-natty.html)
[16:22] <cjwatson>  - gcc-4.6 (http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110111-gcc-natty.html)
[16:22] <cjwatson> Working on Python 3 transition plan, aiming to be able to ship only Python 3 on the CD by the next LTS - pitti's sprint work on GIR should help a lot, of course
[16:22] <cjwatson> Discussions at rally with bzr guys regarding UDD, identifying top issues
[16:22] <cjwatson> Set up workshop with kernel/X teams to analyse people's graphical boot problems: the vast majority seem to reduce to a small number of fairly well-understood and tractable problems, so confident about this now
[16:22] <cjwatson>  - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Grub2BootFramebuffer/Whiteboard
[16:22] <cjwatson> ..
[16:22] <skaet> thanks cjwatson.  :)
[16:23] <skaet> Appreciate you looking at the bugs,  I was about to ask  ;)  and delighted to hear about the features.
[16:23] <skaet> any questions?
[16:23] <cjwatson> I'm actually not very *worried* about most of the bugs, but we definitely need to clean them up
[16:24] <cjwatson> BTW, we can't do anything about bug 605042 - it relies on an updated kernel
[16:24]  * skaet feels a bit better.  :)
[16:24] <skaet> ack
[16:24] <cjwatson> Jeremy Kerr has managed to reproduce it, but that was the last update on the bug
[16:24] <cjwatson> so that should be -> kernel team for now, IMO
[16:25] <skaet> ok,  go ahead and reassign then, and I'll track it there from now on.
[16:25]  * apw looks for soemthing to swap with cjwatson :)
[16:25] <skaet> lol
[16:25] <cjwatson> the assignments in the bug are correct
[16:25] <skaet> okie
[16:25] <skaet> moving on then...
[16:25] <cjwatson> it has a lucid task assigned to the kernel team, which is blocking maverick/natty tasks assigned to doko
[16:25] <skaet> [Topic] Server team update - zul
[16:25] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server team update - zul
[16:25] <zul> hi
[16:25] <zul> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus/
[16:25] <zul> Lots of progress has been made this week but we are still behind the trend line. I am sure that more work item will be updated today so that it will look even beter. Some work items will also be probably deferred to alpha-3.
[16:25] <zul> On the release critical bug front:
[16:25] <zul>  697181 - php5 - was fixed last week
[16:25] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus/
[16:25] <zul>  697753 - eucalyptus - no prgress was made
[16:25] <zul>  689944 - cluster-agents - talked to andreas about it, will be looked at today.
[16:25] <zul>  665667 - euca2ools - cant launch a AMI bundle almost fixed by smoser.
[16:26] <zul> ...
[16:26] <skaet> thanks zul.  :)
[16:26] <skaet> will dig into your charts in a bit more detail later.
[16:26] <skaet> glad to hear about the progress this week.   :)
[16:27] <zul> so am i :)
[16:27] <skaet> any questions?
[16:27] <skaet> :)
[16:27] <skaet> [Topic] Desktop team update - pitti
[16:27] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop team update - pitti
[16:27] <pitti> Blueprint implementation:
[16:27] <pitti>  * On track for entire cycle
[16:27] <pitti>  * Got back on track for alpha-2
[16:27] <pitti> General status:
[16:27] <pitti>  * GTK 3 theming problem was solved for natty by fixing GTK2 enough to work with our ported gobject-introspection; apport, language-selector and friends now use GTK2 with GI and GTK3 fell off the CD.
[16:27] <pitti>  * We are currently updating to the gdbus port of the indicators and other intrusive changes, which will cause some temporary uninstallability.
[16:27] <pitti> CD space savings:
[16:27] <pitti>  * We got some 25 MB of space savings identified at the sprint, 14 of them are in Natty; remaining is xulrunner-2.0 which should fall off soon. I. e. we are in good shape now \o/
[16:28] <pitti> RC bugs:
[16:28] <pitti>  * most of the new ones from the agenda are actually unity/compiz bugs and fall  into the DX domain
[16:28] <pitti>  * New on the list is bug 692665; I fixed the root cause in langpack-o-matic, now need language pack -base rebuild, which will happen next week
[16:28] <pitti>  * bug 637827: Chris Coulson put out a test package in a PPA and public call for testing, so this should land soon
[16:28] <pitti> ..
[16:28] <skaet> Thanks pitti,   *\o/* for the space, and awesome burn down chart!!!
[16:28]  * pitti bows
[16:28] <skaet> :)
[16:28] <skaet> any questions?
[16:29] <skaet> [Topic] Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover
[16:29] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover
[16:29] <joshuahoover> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus
[16:29] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus
[16:29] <joshuahoover> details on where we're at with blueprints and releases are in the link above
[16:29] <joshuahoover> first (big) bit of speeding up file sync performance made it into ubuntuone-client 1.5.2 with a new metadata backend for syncdaemon...we've seen as much as 96x better performance with scanning local u1 metadata
[16:29] <joshuahoover> desktopcouch 1.0.5 made it (finally!) in this week, which includes a lot of refactoring work
[16:30] <joshuahoover> some members of the u1 team met with njpatel at the rally this week and we have a plan to move forward with u1 unity integration, including a launcher item that will give some indication as to syncing progress
[16:30] <joshuahoover> and that's about it
[16:30] <joshuahoover> ..
[16:30] <skaet> Thanks joshuahoover!
[16:31] <skaet> any questions?
[16:31]  * skaet will be digging into these charts too....  :)  post rally
[16:31] <skaet> [Topic] Kubuntu Team update - Riddell
[16:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kubuntu Team update - Riddell
[16:32]  * skaet looks around for Riddell?
[16:33] <ScottK> Not sure if Riddell's around or not (I haven't been until just now myself).
[16:33] <ScottK> We're getting close to 4.6.0 release and things are in general going well.
[16:33] <ScottK> I don't have details prepared though.
[16:33] <skaet> Thanks for steopping in ScottK.
[16:33] <skaet> stepping even
[16:34] <skaet> will see if he shows up later, and has further comments.   glad things are going well.
[16:34] <skaet> [Topic] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth
[16:34] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth
[16:34] <dbarth_> hi
[16:34] <skaet> hi
[16:34] <dbarth_> status update at the usual address: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/NattyReleaseStatus
[16:34] <dbarth_> and here is a quick summary of what happened this week
[16:35] <dbarth_> on the shell front, mostly getting back to making weekly releases: unity, compiz
[16:35] <dbarth_> the compiz bug triaging is still in progress, but we've started narrowing down a list at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bugs?field.tag=natty
[16:36] <dbarth_> at the unity foundation level a lot was released
[16:36] <dbarth_> with all of the dbusmenu and indicator libs
[16:36] <dbarth_> that have been uploaded into natty
[16:36] <dbarth_> some of them are still being released as i speak (msging indicator)
[16:36] <dbarth_> it breaks apis unfortunately, so requires a couple of rebuilds
[16:37] <skaet> ack.  thanks for heads up.
[16:37] <dbarth_> also, a new libunity project has been created to gather all of the different unity related apis under a common "roof"
[16:37] <dbarth_> places and a new quicklist api are going there
[16:38] <dbarth_> it's mostly a packaging change at the moment, it should be the last for unity this cycle i think
[16:38] <skaet> ..?
[16:38] <dbarth_> bugs, we still have too many, but with the actions taken with the qa team, it should get clearer hoepfully next week
[16:39] <dbarth_> (expiring olds ones, and reviewing prios)
[16:39] <dbarth_> and that's it ;)
[16:39] <dbarth_> ..
[16:39] <skaet> thanks dbarth_ !    :)
[16:39] <skaet> looking forward to things shaking out, and seeing some of those bugs close ;)
[16:39] <skaet> any questions?
[16:40] <skaet> [Topic] ARM team update - ogra
[16:40] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM team update - ogra
[16:40] <ogra> i must admit i havent really prepared something since since this morning the air is burning for the arm team
[16:40] <ogra> but ......
[16:40] <ogra> i'm really proud to present you this: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-arm-natty-alpha-2.html
[16:40] <ogra> :)
[16:41] <skaet> *\o/*  woo hoo!!
[16:41]  * pitti applauds
[16:41] <ogra> we didnt do much bugwork this week
[16:41] <ogra> but the specs are in shape for a2
[16:41] <ogra> and you can expect some nice surprise hitting the archive within the next hours ;)
[16:41] <ogra> ..
[16:42] <skaet> cool.
[16:42] <pitti> ogra: dput letterbomb_11.04_source.changes?
[16:42] <ogra> lol
[16:42] <skaet> thanks ogra!   will be looking for it.  :)
[16:42] <skaet> any questions?
[16:43] <pitti> ogra: (thinking about "Schluempfe" -- nevermind)
[16:43] <skaet> [Topic] MOTU team update - ScottK
[16:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU team update - ScottK
[16:44] <ScottK> Still lots of DSO linking, gcc 4.5 and python2.7 work to be done.
[16:44] <ScottK> Nothing new to report  really.
[16:44] <ScottK> Slow progress and we'll see how far we get.
[16:44] <skaet> ..?
[16:44] <ScottK> ..
[16:44] <skaet> Thanks ScottK.
[16:45] <skaet> Will you be around early next week?   want to brainstorm a bit on IRC on the backlog.
[16:45]  * skaet noting its a long weekend in the US ;)
[16:47] <ScottK> Should be on Monday.
[16:47] <skaet> cool.   Thanks - will look for you then.  :)
[16:47] <skaet> [Topic] Linaro update - JamieBennett
[16:47] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro update - JamieBennett
[16:47] <JamieBennett> Hi Kate,
[16:47] <skaet> hi!
[16:47] <JamieBennett> Last I heard, the Ubuntu ARM team are still undecided whether or not they will take the Linaro OMAP3 kernel. Consensus what that at the moment that won’t happen but that could of changed, maybe ogra knows more? jcrigby will accommodate necessary Ubuntu changes.
[16:48] <JamieBennett> As for ARMv7 string tuning in GLIBC, this will be worked on in the coming month and we are hopeful that something will be able to be used this cycle. I’ll keep you posted.
[16:48] <JamieBennett> QEMU is being released by the toolchain group monthly starting next month (second Tuesday) so we could fold that into the release.
[16:48] <ogra> JamieBennett, we wont
[16:48] <JamieBennett> ogra: OK
[16:48] <ogra> omap3 is built from the linux package again
[16:49] <JamieBennett> Last but not least, Michael Hope has committed to testing qt-x11 with the volatile int fix.
[16:49] <ogra> nobody wanted to commit to do SRU and security fixed to the linaro one
[16:49] <ogra> *fixes
[16:49] <skaet> thanks to Michael Hope for the testing.  :)
[16:49] <JamieBennett> :)
[16:49]  * skaet will update that action item in the agenda later
[16:50] <JamieBennett> questions?
[16:50] <skaet> Thanks JamieBennett ( you caught all of mine in your summary :)  )
[16:50] <skaet> [Topic] any other kudos/comments/questions?
[16:50] <MootBot> New Topic:  any other kudos/comments/questions?
[16:51] <Amaranth> kudos :)
[16:51] <skaet> Kudo:  Thank you to eveyone here today - we may actually finish this meeting in an hour,  nice and efficient.  :)
[16:52]  * skaet looks around...
[16:52] <skaet> going once
[16:52] <skaet> twice
[16:52] <marjo> skaet: thx!
[16:52] <skaet> #endmeeting
[16:52] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:52.
[16:52] <pitti> thanks everyone
[16:52] <ara> thanks!
[16:52] <skaet> Thanks  marjo, ara, jdstrand, apw, cjwatson, pitti,  zul, joshuahoover,  dbarth, ogra,  ScottK, JamieBennett
[16:53] <ogra> thanks skaet
[16:53] <joshuahoover> thanks skaet
[16:53] <zul> no thank you
[16:54] <skaet> :)