[01:54] <virtu> heya
[01:54] <virtu> =)
[05:40] <siskel> Hello, I've been trying to set up my 5.1 Speakers in Ubuntu Studio following several howtos yet no success is there anyone that could assist me?
[06:41] <olinuxx> hi here
[06:41] <olinuxx> I search for pbuilder help
[06:41] <olinuxx> someone use it here maybe ?
[09:53] <searli> hola
[09:53] <searli> just a quick question ...
[09:54] <searli> will ubuntu studio run on older hardware?
[09:54] <searli> like dyn:ebolic
[10:04] <searli> I.e what are the minimum requirements ?
[14:17] <tanders12> seali: I'm not sure. I would think that initially it'll run on anything vanilla ubuntu will, but when it comes to task-specific things like video editing and realtime audio is where you're gonna run into problems.
[14:18] <ailo> My experience is, at least 512 MB of memory. 256 is like trying to fit an elephant into a closet, memory-wise.
[14:19] <ailo> And there may be problems with graphics. No flash without a reasonably new graphic card.
[21:27] <komputes> Hey guys can you mark this bug as affecting you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/324700
[21:28] <holstein> im unclear as to how that is not wishlist
[21:29] <holstein> the art of bug reporting ;)
[21:29] <holstein> komputes: how about we trade?
[21:29] <komputes> holstein: send, let's see
[21:30] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/695892
[21:30] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/697774
[21:30] <holstein> ^^ those are wishlist
[21:30] <komputes> holstein: not a wishlist because enough people backing it, being presented to DX soon
[21:31] <holstein> i didnt realize wishlist was such a matter of opinion
[21:31] <komputes> holstein: re Bug #697774, are you tring to install studio or server?
[21:31] <holstein> komputes: studio can be installed using that method
[21:31] <komputes> holstein: it's a regression for a lost feature actually
[21:31] <komputes> not a new feature
[21:32] <holstein> hey, a deals a deal
[21:32] <holstein> i'll join if you do :)
[21:32] <komputes> holstein: hadess from GNOME took it out at ~8.04
[21:33] <komputes> holstein: livecd or alternate?
[21:33] <komputes> nm, saw the other bug
[21:33] <komputes> holstein: you assigned Bug #695892 to yourself. will you be fixing it?
[21:34] <holstein> yeah, these are related
[21:34] <holstein> komputes: seems like i might have to
[21:34] <holstein> i thought i would ask at the next meeting about it
[21:34] <holstein> and see if everyone is onboard
[21:34] <holstein> make sure its possible
[21:35] <holstein> im assigned because i didnt want anyone else looking at it necessarily yet
[21:35] <komputes> holstein: I'll definately back you on the LiveCD request
[21:35] <holstein> wastin resources or whatever
[21:35] <holstein> wasting*
[21:35] <holstein> til its a go
[21:36] <holstein> the other one would be a non-issue if we had a live CD
[21:36] <komputes> holstein: as for the other one I'm guessing you tried usb-creator with an alt image?
[21:36] <holstein> komputes: i havent had luck with any alts and usb creator or unet
[21:37] <holstein> have you?
[21:37] <komputes> holstein: i've heard that before
[21:37] <holstein> i can get it to boot
[21:37] <holstein> its the 'locating install medium'
[21:37] <holstein> or locating CD rom
[21:37] <holstein> something like that
[21:37] <holstein> thats where it fails
[21:38] <holstein> unless you do that envolved work-around
[21:38] <holstein> for the server install
[21:38] <holstein> which, actually, i have not done myself
[21:38] <holstein> BUT i suggested it in here twice
[21:38] <holstein> for 10.04 ubuntustudio installs
[21:38] <holstein> and it was reported good
[21:40] <holstein> in both cases
[21:40] <komputes> holstein: not that I can remember. I had a workaround for booting from an ISO file directly but ubiquity is hard headed with that method and won't install
[21:40] <holstein> live CD is the answer i think
[21:40] <holstein> too easy not to do it
[21:40] <komputes> thought there was an alt image usb-creator bug but I must be wrong... or maybe it was markes invalid/incomplete/expired
[21:40] <holstein> and it'll fix that
[21:41] <holstein> and the 'i just insatlled ubuntustudio, and nothing works' stuff i see in here
[21:41] <holstein> at least a bit more
[21:41] <holstein> komputes: OH
[21:41] <holstein> i didnt think about it that way
[21:41] <holstein> this bug would kinda be a duplicate of that
[21:42] <holstein> i'll see if i can find it
[23:46] <thebishop> hellohello
[23:46] <thebishop> i've got a Focusrite Saffire Pro24 (firewire) interface supported by ffado.  I see the RealTime kernel situation has gotten hairy under Maverick.  What's the best solution right now?
[23:48] <holstein> thebishop: hey
[23:48] <thebishop> holstein, whatup
[23:48] <holstein> are you using autostatics PPA ?
[23:49] <holstein> or is it just supported now?
[23:49] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~autostatic/+archive/ppa
[23:49] <thebishop> holstein, i was looking at ubuntu docs which pointed me to abogani's PPA. but it only supports lucid and natty
[23:50] <holstein> thebishop: i used the natty ones
[23:50] <holstein> http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[23:50] <holstein> just DL'd the .debs
[23:50] <holstein> i think -realtime is not there anymore?
[23:50] <holstein> not sure
[23:50] <holstein> but -lowlatency is working quite well for me in natty with my firepod
[23:51] <thebishop> holstein, well what is the state of things right now?  Searching around it looks like a lot of planning discussions are still going on.  Is Maverick just a bust for audio production?  Are Natty dailys ready to use?
[23:52] <holstein> neither
[23:52] <holstein> i wouldnt use natty yet
[23:52] <holstein> personally
[23:52] <thebishop> k
[23:52] <holstein> my production box is 10.04
[23:52] <holstein> and i dont have a reason to change that
[23:52] <holstein> BUT the -lowlatency kernel is working great in testing
[23:52] <thebishop> holstein, doesn't even look like UbuntuStudio's ppa supports Maverick
[23:53] <holstein> thebishop: thats just aboganis PPA
[23:53] <holstein> no ubuntustudio
[23:53] <holstein> not*
[23:53] <holstein> the ubuntustudio metapackages are in the standard repos
[23:53] <holstein> the realtime kernel got pulled
[23:53] <thebishop> holstein, ppa:ubuntustudio-dev/ppa doesn't have a maverick option
[23:53] <holstein> thebishop: you shouldnt need that PPA
[23:54] <thebishop> it's like 2 years old anyway
[23:54] <thebishop> heh
[23:54] <holstein> thats probably just testing pacakges
[23:54] <holstein> for something
[23:54] <holstein> packages
[23:54] <holstein> not used AFAIK
[23:54] <holstein> thebishop: you'd be fine with 10.04 and autostatics PPA
[23:54] <holstein> or 10.10
[23:54] <holstein> and aboganis natty kernel
[23:55] <thebishop> holstein, autostatic only has lucid and karmic
[23:55] <thebishop> seems like 10.04 is the way to go
[23:55] <thebishop> svn ffado and jack, and that's it
[23:55] <holstein> AFAIK
[23:55] <thebishop> a bit annoying since i already compiled that stuff, but no biggie i guess
[23:56] <holstein> you dont need his PPA with maverick
[23:56] <holstein> since the new stuff is already in place
[23:56] <thebishop> oh ok
[23:56] <thebishop> so just install natty -realtime
[23:56] <holstein> or -lowlatency
[23:56] <thebishop> holstein, both have preempt?
[23:56] <holstein> yup
[23:57] <holstein> thebishop: if you get around to testing natty with FW
[23:57] <holstein> let me know
[23:57] <holstein> i have a few tests i would like to confirm for us
[23:57] <holstein> just find me and ping me before you do any settings changes
[23:57] <thebishop> k
[23:57] <holstein> literally all i did was add myself to the audio group
[23:58] <holstein> and get the -lowlatency kernel
[23:58] <holstein> and natty + the firepod is running great :)
[23:58] <holstein> maybe a little better that lucid with -rt